BCI culls 50 law schools in first crack-down

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The Bar Council of India (BCI) has rejected applications to renew the licences of approximately 50 law colleges at its meetings over the past weeks, as part of chairman Gopal Subramanium’s stated aim to reduce the total number from more than 900 to less than 200.

A BCI insider told Legally India that at the BCI meetings of 22 and 23 August, as well as on last weekend’s meetings on 3 and 4 September, the BCI decided not to renew the licences of between 45 and 50 colleges.

The criteria for disqualificaiton was a “very basic minimal benchmark” said the BCI source, particularly focusing on whether faculty had the basic qualifications to teach.

Decisions on whether to disqualify a college or not were purely taken on the basis of materials submitted by the college itself.

The source added that most of India’s law colleges would now have to reapply for their license every year.

It is understood that the BCI has not reached a final decision on what will happen to students enrolled at the 50 colleges that are to be shut. The person with knowledge of the decision said: “We are in the process of identifying larger law colleges in some state which have potential to merge other law colleges into themselves.”

He also added that the requirements had been temporarily relaxed for colleges in some North Eastern states in light of the generally lower quality of legal education there, although such colleges were given an ultimatum to improve.

The BCI’s chairman and solicitor general Subramanium was not available for comment at the time of going to press. However, Legally India reported in July that he was aiming to consolidate around 700 of India’s 913 law colleges into a total of 175.

At the time of going to press Legally India was unable to obtain a list of the law colleges, although the BCI insider said that the schools did not include well-known institutions.

In future the BCI would institute an online application form for colleges to seek accreditation, which would include uploading videos of a college’s lectures to enable the BCI to take a call on the quality of teaching.

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Comments

Anonymous guest 8 Sept 2010, 12:40
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Good initiative that was long overdue, but before anyone starts to congratulate Mr. Subramaniam, I must sound a word of caution. There are more of these law schools that are operating and that even figure in the top 20 list of some weekly magazines' list of India's best law schools.

The difference between those schools and the 50 schools that have been de-recognised is that the former enjoy political patronage and in some cases are even administered by them.

I sincerely do hope that the BCI does not discriminate when carrying out this evaluation and all and any law schools that fail to meet a rigorous criteria for being accredited are de-recognised. I know that some will say that this is playing God with the future of the students already enrolled in such institutes. But in all honesty, it is the other way around. 5 years of 'education' and then graduating at the mature age of 22-23 with no real skills ot speak off will probably do them considerably worse.


One solution would be have all the students who are enrolled at such colleges take the CLAT entrance again (even if they are above the age of 19 as they are special cases). The only problem would be whether NLSes would be able to cope with the huge influx, but desperate times call for desperate measures and the state of legal education in India (the recent increase in the number of NLSes notwithstanding) has been pathetic.

One hopes Mr. Subramaniam is able to take the fight to all quarters. Good luck!
Anonymous guest 8 Sept 2010, 16:48
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Great move on part of the BCI. I have heard that some NLUs will also be shut down!
Anonymous guest 8 Sept 2010, 16:59
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There must be a CBI probe into how the BCI granted recognition to thee colleges. A big lobby is opposing foreign universities and is vehemently against Kapil Sibal so that they can make money from shady medical and engg colleges. There are people like this in the legal comunity as well who must be exposed.

The same people who are against foreign law schools are also against foreign law firms. This is proof of how corrupt the anti-liberalisation lobby is. Unfortunately the media and the judiciary are scared of the lawyer mafia.
Anonymous guest 8 Sept 2010, 17:24
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There are many natinal law schools that are being mismanaged. Will they face the axe too?
Anonymous guest 8 Sept 2010, 18:50
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#3 is spot on. The problem is that the directors are a law unto themselves and are answerable to nobody. A "benevolent dictator" like Prof Menon is rare. Prof Mitra was also good in his own way. Things started to go awry since he left NLS. NUJS too has gone downhill since Prof Menon left (I feel bad as I'm from Cal). Things are also bleak at NALSAR (aka the pretenders...LOL)

It is high time the student body had more say on the governing body in all the colleges.
Anonymous guest 8 Sept 2010, 19:43
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The situation of most law schools and particularly of National Law universities is depressing.They have failed on the expectations.They have failed to deliver the quality which was expected.Instead they have been focussing on quantity and capital rather than quality, this has further deteriorated the legal profession in this country.BCI has taken an apt measure to curb the menace, let us see what happens.
mubashshir.sarshar 8 Sept 2010, 19:44
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good step Mr. Subramanium..... kudos
Anonymous guest 8 Sept 2010, 19:53
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Yes, because all this will surely continue once Gopal Sub is (thankfully) sent packing after his term expires.

Kian-- honest question, could you please answer: Did the 'BCI insider' have any connection with Rainmaker? 'Yes' or 'no' will be fine.
Anonymous guest 8 Sept 2010, 21:33
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Good initiative I say and while ur at it, u mite wanna take a look at the law deptt. in some central uni. too/ Lots of "culling" needed there too.
Anonymous guest 8 Sept 2010, 21:34
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What I cant understand is that if Mr. Subramanium wants to reduce the No of colleges from 900 to 200, where do all the students go ?

Its a 'solemn' and 'nobel' resolve to have lesser lawyers in this country it seems. But doesnt make sense. What should be done is rather see that these 900 odd colleges have the necessary infrastructure to educate the students.
kianganz 8 Sept 2010, 21:35
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We never disclose or speculate about the identity anonymous sources but suffice it to say that Rainmaker is a separate entity from the BCI and it would not be accurate to describe a person connected to Rainmaker as a "BCI insider".

Such a source would commonly be described as someone familiar with the issue.
Anonymous guest 9 Sept 2010, 00:29
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"What I cant understand is that if Mr. Subramanium wants to reduce the No of colleges from 900 to 200, where do all the students go ?"

Are you dumb or something? he's not tryiong to reduce colleges, he is only trying to shut down the fraudulent shops that were recognised by his corrupt predecessors. Hats off to GS. You guys are mentally challenged if you oppose him on this. People like Laloo yadav have law degrees bcoz we have such crap standards.

#8: You deserve a kick in the @$$ for saying that it will be a good thing if GS goes.
All the NLU students opposing the bar exam deserve one too.
Anonymous guest 9 Sept 2010, 02:08
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Its too early to shower kudos on GS, Indians are famous to start and never finish off, only time would let us know if GS is successful. As #1 said one of the best way to check quality of students would be to have a nation wide entrance test for all law school entrants, students who enter colleges after a test would most certainly demand better facilities and (generally) would be more willing to put more efforts into studying law rather that treating it as a part time venture.
Anonymous guest 9 Sept 2010, 02:21
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Excellent initiative by Sri. Subramanium, hats off to him.. this task can be taken care of only by him. But I am afraid some reputed old universities may risk the axe of de-recognition.
Anonymous guest 9 Sept 2010, 03:05
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Roadside lawshops particularly some in Bihar,Orissa,South needed to be closed down long before.Apprently it seems to be a good move.
but
What about Bar Council Examination and selection of Rainmaker
Hope it is not a diversion tactics..
Anonymous guest 9 Sept 2010, 05:54
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GS ought to find a suitable successor else things will just go back the way they were. i see no promise with the rest. sometimes wonder how they even got elected. these guys must be profiled on the new BCI site. Kudos to GS for having managed even this much... despite the odds.given the present scenario (his 3 yr term) GS can only straighten the broader structure of the BCI ..with a little push ..perhaps even the principles / values on which it operates. a lot depends on the promise he leaves behind/ future leaders of the BCI...
Anonymous guest 9 Sept 2010, 05:56
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@13 one cannot stop from starting merely one has fear of not finishing. One can reach finish point only if one starts, let see wat happens in future but good step is good step..
some step taken by present chairman is atleast making BCI proactive to do something better , otherwise it was inactive volcano ,
Anonymous guest 9 Sept 2010, 06:00
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@15 for your kind information Bihar has not many law college, before commenting do some statistical result, and if you are from delhi, and talking about bihari lawyers, most of them are products of Campus Law Centre , Delhi University with good result. be correct in facts. and if you want i can provide data about alw colleges.
Anonymous guest 9 Sept 2010, 06:14
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@15 only 22 college in such a Big state, Bihar, and most of them Run by Govt, Kindly see BCI site, where statewise number u can see and then comment, do some excercie before making general comment about any state or about people of any se , these baised thinking has no place in democratic world unless it is substantiated by facts,

sorry to editor of legallyindia for my three comment on same issue.
vaibhav9377 9 Sept 2010, 06:50
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i think its a very good perspective by mr.subramaniam as his aim is to make available the cream lawyers in this country and to make it a legal hub worldwide.
i fully support his step along with keeping in mind the cons of this step. But there is a need for it.
Anonymous guest 9 Sept 2010, 16:12
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@18 - are you baba?
Anonymous guest 9 Sept 2010, 17:37
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LI what are the colleges that have been derecognised?
Anonymous guest 9 Sept 2010, 20:38
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Its good to see such a initiative taking shape. Awaiting for the final outcome without political hassels /hurdles.
Anonymous guest 10 Sept 2010, 03:36
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Who gave them recognition ? Is not the same BCI & How they gave it then ??
It is just a starter to create a threat atmosphere..it will help their extortion business.
How they depute rainmaker then without any open tender..single party selected.
Anonymous guest 10 Sept 2010, 04:04
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Contrary to rumours HNLU and Amity have not been derecognised.
Anonymous guest 10 Sept 2010, 17:35
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I dont know if one shoudl critcise or approve this move byb BCI. First of all the BCI should be transparent about its own workings and tell everybody how they selected Rainmaker to write the cript of reforms in the legal education sector - why not on board senior members from legal education community?? The way BCI selected Rainmaker -without any tender or transparent published criteria - I think BCI has not set a good example of probity in public life and should not be allowed to recognoze / derecognize law schools for now and this should move to the law minstry (we hear law ministry is already proposing bill for taking away legal education from BCI).

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Anonymous guest 10 Sept 2010, 17:58
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While the move to regulate the standard and quality of legal education in India is a good and rather required one, I was wondering if the BCI has thought of how this closure will impact students seeking to enroll in the law course in the coming semesters, given that the target of 200 law schools cannot be achieved overnight. Though the colleges and universities are aware of the mandates, guidelines and requisites required for their license renewals, most students are not. Thus the BCI needs to put out a ready reckoner against which students in the coming times may be able to evaluate whether or not the universities/law schools they wish to apply to meet the criteria. Otherwise students will keep applying to colleges whose closure is certain even today.
kianganz 10 Sept 2010, 18:54
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FYI, the list of colleges will most likely be published on Monday.

We will of course carry an update as soon as that happens.

Best regards,
Kian
Anonymous guest 10 Sept 2010, 19:25
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when rai university was shut down some year ago amity was also being investigated. I wonder why the govt did not shut down amity and singled out rai. probably politics.
advrajivpatil 11 Sept 2010, 03:20
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Recently BCI team visited law college in Solapur in Maaharashtra. What was the cost of inspection and how much money Solapur Law College had to shell out for recognition? Mr Gopal Subramaniam, Chairman Bar Council of India, who is improving legal standards please answer, if you have any. If not please cleanse you house first.
Anonymous guest 11 Sept 2010, 21:03
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#29 because the level of teaching in Amity was far better than NLS or NUJS...moron
Anonymous guest 12 Sept 2010, 01:33
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amity teachers better than NLS and NUJS? LOOOOOOOOOOOL
Anonymous guest 12 Sept 2010, 22:44
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great initiative by gs.let us revive the glory of legal fraternity.
Anonymous guest 13 Sept 2010, 02:08
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@31 ur statment is the height of day dreaming. Keep dreaming it is best way to overcome the frustration of studying at Amity ....studying at amity is like eating at road side dhaba but paid for 5 star resturant.
Anonymous guest 13 Sept 2010, 15:17
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What abt ICFAI?
Anonymous guest 15 Sept 2010, 07:04
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wel, its a good initiative frm BCI. But now they shd focus on it so seriously tht thre shd nt remain any need to proceed with All India Bar Exam. exactly wt i want to say z if thre wil be such a good institutions under d BCI thn of course the students frm such colleges need not be tested again n again......i mean it bcoz i know tht AIBE z gonna be a political issue n wil be stuked down n its only us who wil suffer this meaningless hurdle ths december only..
Anonymous guest 17 Sept 2010, 17:33
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What the BCI is doing now should have been done when they had applied for recognision. The problem with most of our licensing system is, it is seen as power and not as responsibility hence they do not see the problems of the students who would suffer. The students who have joined the 3 yrs or 5 yrs course would suffer will the BCI help them in their career? Will they rehabilitate the students into another institute of good repute. It is not just like traveling in a bus or a train that it breaks down and the conductor just puts them into any mode that is available. Here a student has worked towards choosing his career/institute through a lot of research but in one stroke of a pen the licensing authorities crash his dream. Is it the right way?
Anonymous guest 17 Sept 2010, 18:27
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Can anyone provide me with the list of the 30 law colleges that have been derecognised by BCI????
kianganz 17 Sept 2010, 18:44
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I believe the list is not yet published but here are a few more details we re-reported today:

http://www.legallyindia.com/201009171312/Law-schools/bci-says-5000-students-wont-be-harmed-in-law-school-closures-list-still-not-announced
Jyoti 21 Sept 2010, 01:03
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A very good move by BCI, albeit long overdue. Legal education in India is in a terrible shape and considering how bad many of the universities featuring on top 10 and top 20 lists are (especially based out of Pune), it is not surprising that there remain many colleges that are just a sham. Even more mysterious, some of the 'national law schools' like the one in Jodhpur have mandatory dissection and chemistry classes for students even as their end-products can barely give proper advice on a question of law. I hope that the BCI under Mr. Subramanium act on this new found zeal and closely scrutinise all legal universities.
Anonymous guest 21 Sept 2010, 15:19
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I strongly object to Mr. Subramanium's comment about law schools in north east........................those same colleges have produced some of the best lawyers.