Bhat to face inquiry at NUJS, resolves executive council as goes for administrative rinse in latest meeting [UPDATE-1]

Bhat has left NUJS, but an inquiry is to start now into his tenure
Bhat has left NUJS, but an inquiry is to start now into his tenure

Former NUJS Kolkata vice chancellor Prof Ishwara Bhat, who resigned last month under student and state government pressure, will face an inquiry committee convened by NUJS Kolkata acting vice chancellor, retired Justice Amit Talukdar, it was resolved on 12 May.

According to the minutes of the 61st meeting of the NUJS executive council (EC), convened on 12 May, a committee would inquire into the “allegations” against Bhat, consisting of the current acting vice chancellor Talukdar, Justice Ashim Kumar Roy, advocate general Kishore Datta and the judicial secretary.

Bhat’s resignation took effect from 7 April, on the conclusion of the EC meeting, after relaxation of the requirement of one month’s notice on resignation, given the circumstances of his resignation.

All his financial emoluments, including the notice period salary, were directed to be released immediately.

Attendees

The meeting was attended by the following 14 members: Acting VC Talukdar, former Calcutta high court judge Ashim Kumar Roy, current Calcutta high court justice Jyotirmay Bhattacharya, Supreme Court justice Arun Mishra, West bengal law minister Moloy Ghatak, West Bengal advocate general Kishore Datta, NUJS treasurer Jishnu Saha, Tezpur University Prof Virginius Xaxa, Dr Anupa Guha Majumdar and NUJS professor Dr Anirban Mazumder, IIM Kolkata director-in-charge BN Srivastava, West Bengal education secretary RS Shukla, West Bengal judicial secretary Bibek Chaudhuri and NUJS associate professor Bikramjit De.

The Student Juridical Association (SJA) was also represented at the meeting and a fact finding committee comprising Talukdar and Datta was resolved to be constituted to look into the irregularities in the universities that the SJA had mentioned in a letter submitted one day before the EC meeting.

New administration search committee to be formed

The EC requested the chancellor for his nominee to chair the search committee for selection of Bhat’s successor at NUJS, and requested the West Bengal government nominate the other two members of the search committee at the earliest.

NUJS will also have a new acting registrar as it was resolved that the current acting registrar Sarfaraz Ahmed Khan would hand over the charge to Calcutta high court registrar general Madhumati Mishra.

The search for a NUJS’ next permanent registrar will also begin now, as it was resolved to advertise the vacancy subject to the decision of the high court in the writ filed by former registrar Dr Surajit Mukkhopadhyay against his dismissal.

NUJS faculty member Anupama Ghoshal will serve as the new assistant registrar (administration) and new accounts and finance officers are also to be appointed at the earliest.

Review Commission Report

Discussion on the review commission report was deferred to the next meeting of the EC, however it was directed that the actions to be taken and reports to be filed as recommended by the university review commission should continue.

Distance learning courses: To be considered

The EC did not have a conclusive view yet on the validity of various distance learning certifications provided by NUJS, which had been challenged in 2016 by advocate Pinaki Ranjan Banerjee in the Calcutta high court.

Since all private distance learning courses were currently kept on hold at NUJS, the EC resolved to maintain that status quo until further discussions on this subject.

Update 21 May 2018: We have reached out for comment to former SJA president Arjun Agarwal, who was present at the EC meeting. He said:

Decisions of the Executive Council and the Academic Council since the former Vice Chancellor, Prof. (Dr.) P. Ishwara Bhat demitted office last month have resulted in rebuilding student confidence in the University’s administration. We thank them for giving us patient hearing in their recent meetings.

The appointment of Justice (Retd.) Amit Talukdar has brought a breath of fresh air to the campus. Finally, the students are being heard by their Vice Chancellor. Under his leadership, the Executive Council and Academic Council have already been appraised of some of the very many serious matters that they might have earlier been kept in the dark about due to a concerted effort by the former Vice Chancellor and a few of his aides.

Resultantly, there are natural concerns surrounding the inability of internal Executive and Academic Council veterans in keeping these statutory bodies appraised of these very pressing matters. There is also no evidence to suggest that these aides advised the former Vice Chancellor against questionable and potentially illegal actions and ommissions.

We feel that Justice Talukdar, himself having served the Executive Council as an external member, is best placed to help bridge the information gap between various stakeholders and these Hon’ble statutory bodies.

We further thank the Executive Council for bringing changes in the Registrar (Acting) and AR (Administration) positions. Consequently, we expect a responsive, transparent and invigorated administration with a change of guard in both these vital positions in conjunction with the leadership of Justice Talukdar.

Comments

Bhaiya 19 May 2018, 12:13
+24 -2
Anupa GM is not a professor from NUJS. The lawyer didn't go to court against the distance education courses, simply sent a petition to the CJI as Chancellor and the EC and AC members. Word on the vine is this was simply a strategical move by some faculty members to bring an allegation against some other faculty members so that latter won't be considered for the Acting Registrar position during the meeting.
Bommai 20 May 2018, 04:43
+14 -0
Advocate Pinaki Ranjan Banerjee is categorically denying he ever sent such a mail. Seems to be a case of a fake email id. It should be investigated.
Guest 21 May 2018, 17:39
+1 -1
Please ask Advocate Pinaki Ranjan Banerjee to come front to save nujs.
Orion 19 May 2018, 12:18
+23 -3
This is how the institution is gradually being taken over by the state government, which the students are failing to realize. Why should the state provide two nominees to the search committee? It's for the EC to decide! The state is represented at the EC anyway through law minister etc. And why this inordinate delay? PIB had resigned right after last meeting of the EC on April 7. The members couldn't have decided upon the search committee for a whole month? Plus, the deliberate postponement of all recommendations of the Review Commission over and over again!
Guest 19 May 2018, 13:16
+12 -1
There are vested interested that will keep delaying the report implementation.
Ronaldo 20 May 2018, 06:17
+26 -2
But students can hold a strike every week and get all of those crafty people thrown out, na? I thought that was the plan? First PIB, then the rest? Don't tell me miracles aren't gonna happen right now? :(
Pi 21 May 2018, 14:57
+6 -1
Indeed this is a grave development, NUJS has always been away from any sort of state interference, now the govt seems to have a strong foothold. PIB drove a bad bargain by giving 5% domicile quota for 1 acre of adjacent land. Law ministers have rarely attended past meetings, but now with a vacuum at top things are taking a dark turn. Be aware!!!
Sadhu 19 May 2018, 12:50
+7 -8
This is like a delicate game of chess between the SJA on one side and the administration/political elements on the other side. The SJA has a huge advantage with the inquiry committee and can use it to institute reforms and enforce accountability. All NLUs can learn from it. But the other camp can dilute it if corrupt/inefficient members take over the administration .

On the other hand, the state nomination can be a huge disadvantage for the SJA. But then again, the SJA can benefit if it is a very erudite and eminent nominee (e.g. Harvard Professor and TMC MP Sugata Bose, who introduced the NLU Bill in Parliament).

I think the SJA should do the following:

1) Apply pressure and ensure that the review committee recommendations are implemented both in letter and spirit.
2) Unite with other NLUs and lobby for National Importance status, to prevent domicile and caste quotas creeping in.
3) Occasionally issue polite threats that a VC has been kicked out by the SJA and they will not hesitate to do a repeat.
Jokaar 19 May 2018, 13:16
+24 -1
LOL Are you serious dude??? The only people who have benefited from this are a rather particular professor and [...]. Not a single recco of the URC has been discussed and academic "reforms" are as mythical now as Hanuman's bridge. Only in some bhaang-induced delusion will [...] come close to the campus. Waiting to see how well more "polite threats" work out.
Guest 19 May 2018, 18:15
+1 -1
TMC? Surely you mean TC/AI-TC. TMC is a political party from Tamil Nadu.
kaka 20 May 2018, 05:38
+7 -8
TMC/AITMC is All India TrinaMul Congress. The newly appointed assistant registrar is daughter of a sitting TMC MP, a political appointee, strengthening the hand of WB govt in NUJS.
Bhaiya 20 May 2018, 07:36
+8 -2
Slightly outdated information. She's now politically aligned herself with the breakaway faction from TMC that is being supported by the BJP.
Guest 20 May 2018, 08:29
+9 -5
Fact Check: She has joined BJP now.

[img]https://d23xcmtliku0ki.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/anupama-ghoshal-kolkata24x7.jpg[/img]

https://english.kolkata24x7.com/biswa-bangla-a-company-owned-by-abhishek-banerjee-mukul.html/
Xx 20 May 2018, 08:59
+2 -2
She is a current BJP member and an ardent supporter of mukul roy. Cheers to TMC for promoting democracy at grass root level.
Guest 20 May 2018, 13:54
+2 -3
Oye Kake, sorry but that is incorrect. Please find below a link to the Election Commission of India website. It provides a document of the constitution of AITC. Though the name is provided in full in most places, you can Control+F for AITC [48 hits] and AITMC [0 hits].

http://eci.nic.in/eci_main/mis-Political_Parties/Constitution_of_Political_Parties/ConstitutionOfAITC.pdf

Note: The confidence, often misplaced, with which law students 'generate' information, and the herd mentality with which they get upvotes on this website, is indicative of the rigour behind your academic endeavour. TMC was, and maybe is, a political party started by G.K Moopanar is Tamil Nadu.
Guest 19 May 2018, 13:07
+2 -1
[quote] The Student Juridical Association (SJA) was also represented at the meeting and a fact finding committee comprising Talukdar and Datta was resolved to be constituted to look into the irregularities in the universities that the SJA had mentioned in a letter submitted one day before the EC meeting. [/quote]

Please share the letter.
Ned Stark 19 May 2018, 13:43
+29 -19
Why are you silent on how work of CCR and Centre for Regulatory Studies have been suspended and a few researchers lost jobs because some Faculty and SJA complained to the EC that the Centers are not useful for university students. Lucky to have graduated before this Beliaghata version of Game of Thrones began.
Orion 19 May 2018, 17:20
+34 -11
It's quite ironical as those two centres were almost the only remaining places at the university where research was happening and also only those places where proper external audit happened, so there could have been no financial mismanagement whatsoever. Classic example of how personal vendettas can ruin an institution.
noojie1b 23 May 2018, 16:03
+23 -0
Coordinator of the Centre for Child Rights were called in the last EC Meeting for clarification on the issue of renewal of agreement with the UNICEF for three more years. After this hearing, a committee comprising of two EC Members and present Registrar of WBNUJS were set up to look after the administrative and financial matters of the Centre for Child Rights. The Coordinator was asked to hand-over all files to the Acting VC of WBNUJS, and relieved from duty accordingly.

With reference to the Centre for Regulatory Studies, there were no discussion in the EC as there were no written complaint with reference to administration and finance. However, all research Centres and research projects will be reviewed by this committee as decided by the EC.

The Centre for Child Rights is closed now due to non-renewal of agreement with UNICEF. The Centre for Regulatory Studies and other research projects are continuing.
Guest 19 May 2018, 15:41
+0 -3
Expects the same people who applied for NLIU VCship to eye NUJS VCship.
Guest 19 May 2018, 18:31
+19 -4
Screw NIRF. NUJS faculty research quality is the best.


[img]https://image.ibb.co/i1YH6T/Screen_Shot_2018_05_20_at_4_25_24_AM.png[/img]
Bagheera 20 May 2018, 06:15
+11 -5
Pls to share something new. Me sure he writes more of such stuff. Like Faizan's question papers at NALSAR.
Guest 20 May 2018, 13:57
+5 -2
Classical in-the-know move. Cryptic one liner dropping a name of a known personality from a different institution to generate hype towards supposed wrongdoing.

Kyaa kehne tumhaare Bagheera. Ab question paper(s) ke baare mein aur batao.
Bagheera 21 May 2018, 02:50
+11 -6
Nothing so sinister, I'm afraid. NALSAR students themselves shared that question paper in social media, so feel free to look for it there. I've no inclination towards comparing these two, AKP and FM belong to quite different classes. I was simply asking not to cite this same old review as the solitary proof of research of NUJS faculty members over and over again. I'm sure you can find instances of the faculty and students having published some pretty quality work too with all leading publishers in the world, if not this person. And if it's a matter of comic relief, why then, other NLUs tend to provide them in equal measure.
new ones 21 May 2018, 01:27
+6 -0
All his gems are available here https://sites.google.com/a/nujs.edu/arup-poddar/publication-research
Guest 21 May 2018, 04:45
+1 -0
LOL. Gems!
Alias 20 May 2018, 08:21
+13 -3
The comments about a state government backdoor takeover are spot on. But it is very smartly done. For example:

1) Dr Anupama Ghoshal: In comparison to some of the other faculty members, she speaks English well and can receive parents and guests without embarrassing the institution. As an academic, she is certainly not a star, but she knows her basics well and topped one of the better universities in Calcutta. But on the other hand, she is the daughter of Mr Anup Ghoshal, who is a singer but also an MLA from the Trinamool.

2) Dr Bikramjit De: Graduate of Presidency, JNU and Oxford. Son of a famous historian. Again, speaks English well and is presentable, unlike some others. But on the other hand, is an open Trinamool supporter. Just see these tweets from him:

https://twitter.com/B_de2002/status/55553305245532160
https://twitter.com/B_de2002/status/141746231947952130
https://twitter.com/B_de2002/status/148715169462239232
https://twitter.com/B_de2002/status/150087596305948672

3) During Menon-Chimni-MP Singh's time, the EC had Supreme Court lawyers and eminent jurists from all over India. Gradually, the EC is being regionalised. The biggest proof of that was the domicile quota and the move to open two new campuses in Asansol and Jalpaiguri. Thankfully, the Review Commission recommended against it.
Bhatta 21 May 2018, 06:11
+12 -0
[...] Multiple complaints have been raised in the past, to no avail. And now one is in a senior admin position and the other is an EC member. Things like this just demotivates the [...] people, nothing else. Not sure whether Kian will publish this, but if unfounded praises are made about specific people, then truth about them should come out too!
Bhatta 21 May 2018, 08:10
+8 -1
@Kian: Very clever with the editing bit, which leaves the spirit of the comment possible to be interpreted accurately by the intelligent. :) The second edit was a tad harsh though, no, surely that was not in direct violation of your policy?
Bommai 20 May 2018, 17:01
+16 -2
Can someone explain how this rather particular professor has survived in nujs for so long? Is it because he gives more marks than students deserve? It turns out he has an enquiry against him for giving himself double the salary.
Guest 20 May 2018, 20:37
+14 -5
Absolutely. The students are to blame. They get bribed by marks and give good teaching feedback. They cry about bad faculty but will never raise their voice against him. Frankly, they deserve Bhat and all the evils inflicted upon them .
Student Representative 23 May 2018, 09:54
+15 -1
Let's please make feedback for last 7/8 years public?

NUJS will not be left with more than half a dozen faculty members then.
Not my SR 23 May 2018, 12:22
+7 -11
Yeah, make those feedback public, demand explanations from past admin why those had not been acted upon and ALSO from the past batches of students (and present ones) why they still have been opting for the papers offered by those same inept people year after year in huge numbers, rather than boycotting them. If that's not running after attendance and marks at the cost of quality, I don't know what is.
Not that I blame students for that. Of course we would go for marks, that affects our results and our career. But then we should admit that getting good teachers and driving bad ones out isn't really a priority on our agenda.
Bheegi Billi 21 May 2018, 04:33
+17 -0
That's easy enough to figure out. The bane of Indian higher education are the archaic and decaying UGC norms and the concept of offering tenure too easily to even incompetent people. All these useless people got tenure at NUJS during M.P. Singh's time. In order to encourage and motivate people, he ended up making everybody permanent, from the teacher to the receptionist, regardless of their capability. And the promotion requirements of UGC are easy enough to achieve on pen and paper, which this person has, like several others. As a result, he is of Professor rank now, which is the highest rank for a teacher at any Indian university. I'm sure the story is the same across most of the other NLUs too. Maybe slightly different at NLUD now owing to R. Singh, who doesn't care much about UGC norms, but after he leaves, that may change there too.
Guest 21 May 2018, 04:56
+7 -0
Spot on. And conversely, all sorts of rules and regulations are cited to keep NLU alumni out of teaching positions. There is a lot of bitterness and resentment towards NLU alumni who enter teaching, which stems from jealousy and insecurity of incompetent profs. In the rare case a good NLU alum joins teaching, people make life hell for them. In the end, these people get poached by Jindal and then have to regret teaching spoilt brats in a glorified version of Amity.
Guest 21 May 2018, 06:02
+4 -0
Dunno if you can generalize the above statements. I know two different alumni from NALSAR - Akshaya and Ajey - who both left due to opposition to their strictness by students and not that of the 'jealousy and insecurity' of their colleagues.
Bheegi Billi 21 May 2018, 08:07
+11 -0
I am sure both the sets of reasons contribute substantially to the disillusionment of NLU alumni who actually give up a corporate life to get back to academics.
Guest 22 May 2018, 05:16
+2 -0
They do. However, for some reason it is always the jealous and insecure faculty that get blamed before one ever talks about the students themselves shooting the institution in the foot for short term gains.
Bheegi Billi 22 May 2018, 05:54
+13 -1
I'd been discussing this with a batchmate of mine who is idealistic enough to have given back a very promising career in law firm and has gone back to our alma mater. According to him, it is possible to deal with one of these two problems if the teacher receives satisfaction/support from the other front, but two together tends to sap the will of even the most determined. He considers his students as his family, who in my opinion are lucky to have him, but even he is not sure these days how long he can continue this for.
Bheegi Billi 21 May 2018, 06:07
+10 -0
At least they have allowed people with foreign LL.M.s to appear for the UGC NET now. Though that examination is one of the worst to have been ever designed to determine any sort of teaching aptitude whatsoever. Regarding your other point, I regretfully agree. The number of teachers at NLU, who would like their own students to join as their colleagues later for the institutional benefit, is too few still. That is why more and more sensible young alumni should try doing it, so as to have collective strength inside of their own.
Luther 21 May 2018, 04:34
+27 -0
I have downloaded his PhD thesis and checked it using Turn It In: http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/handle/10603/137080

Below are the screenshots of the first two chapters. I can share the full reports of all the chapters on We Transfer. Let's see if the SJA has the guts to do anything, or whether the protest about lack of faculty is just a giant sham and students secretly want unqualified professors who grade well.

And in any event you don't need Turn It In. Just download the thesis and see for yourself.

[img]https://i.imgflip.com/2aohpl.jpg[/img]

[img]https://i.imgflip.com/2aojn6.jpg[/img]
Pi 21 May 2018, 15:03
+13 -0
This looks plagiarism to me :(

If this is independently verified resignation should be immediately demanded.
Kal ho Na ho 21 May 2018, 15:32
+1 -1
Bhai. Can you share Turnitin access with me
Subhkarjani 21 May 2018, 17:33
+23 -6
SJA has no problem with the rather plagiarizing professor. In fact SJA recently demanded by a petition that the particular profesor teach fifth year Water Law since he is a great source of marks and gossips about other faculty to students. So dont expect there to be any protest against the particular professor [...]
Bhaiya 22 May 2018, 03:53
+28 -7
Absolutely true. No matter how holier-than-thou image the SJA tried to adopt while removing PIB, the truth remains that most of the students don't care about quality of a teacher if only he provides attendance and high grades. That holds across all the NLUs these days, which accounts for the appalling quality of a bulk of the average NLU grads. A n example would be how there is a dearth of elective subjects right now for the incoming semester because of insufficient faculty and instead of pushing the admin to at least hire ad-hoc faculty asap, the SJA is all about how to get scoring subjects offered to multiple batches at the same time.
Moby 22 May 2018, 09:03
+9 -1
I do understand the rather particular attack on this Professor. But there are many more at NUJS. I tried to mention a few of them who are still at teaching there, but Kian refuses to publish those comments. One of them feature in this thread and apparently (from his tweets) he is a TMC/ Mamata Banerjee fan. His credentials are amazing, but the way he teaches is contrary to the expectations one might have from an [...] educated [...]. And I will not go on about his grading because many of Noojie students are beneficiaries of his grading and boast of a high CGPA because of him. It is sad that NUJS breeds and celebrates mediocrity.
Gotha 22 May 2018, 09:33
+10 -2
Actually there are many. There is the [...] who is a vocal politician literally. Always bunks class, gives same questions every year. Theres [...] who stares at female students all day and gives them high grades. [...] does the same. [...] who disciplined so many students for copying in project but is himself guilty of the same. [...] keeps cancelling [...] classes at the nth hour and tells lies when asked questions on [...] promises of getting [...] in NUJS. We need to start another protest to embarrass these teachers to resign and quit.
Bruno Mars 22 May 2018, 10:31
+0 -0
Spot on, bro. They need to be exposed one by one. Of course, this can only be done with objective evidence. Plagiarism is easy to spot as al their PhD dissertations are online. Bunking classes can be established with clear records of specific dates over a two-year period. As for staring at females and favouring them, this guy has been doing it for ages, but it's hard to prove objectively.
Metoo 6 Jun 2018, 16:09
+0 -0
Why is there no metoo movement in NUJS? Why is [...] spared by the feminists at NUJS? Is there a story to it? Is this also because of high grades he gives?
Me2 7 Jun 2018, 09:14
+4 -0
The gentleman in question is a historical figure. Very strange behaviour and creepy as well. Thank god he is not a law professor. In fact the other culprit is also a non-law professor and he is double creepy.
AriNa 22 May 2018, 12:11
+11 -0
@Gotha: Use initials, na? Kian won't allow the actual names or subject names to be published. Although it stumps me why he allows specific praises lacking foundation either!

@Kian: Since one of the faculty members is now in an admin position, does that mean as per your usual policy, she's fair game? :P
Moby 22 May 2018, 14:42
+2 -2
Thanks for the idea. Here's a list of faculty at NUJS who should be asked to resign immediately. I invite the current students to bring this comment to their notice as well:

1. [...]
2. [...]
3. [...]
4. [...]
5. [...]

I also invite the current students to add to this initial list.
Thanks
bad list 23 May 2018, 02:22
+5 -2
LD & SB are at least competent.

funny that you missed the rather particular professor & the politician from this list. or is it that you love them because they doll out all the marks you need?
Melville 23 May 2018, 05:47
+0 -0
Kian, why was my earlier response to this comment not published? I used initials and all just like Moby did! Was it just overlooked?
kianganz 23 May 2018, 07:45
+0 -0
We had overlooked that one. We generally seek to also redact initials in most cases... Will moderate your comment and publish shortly.
Melville 23 May 2018, 09:20
+0 -0
Went a bit overboard with the moderation, didn't you? Some of the names I just mentioned as existing teachers, didn't even comment on them :P
Melville 23 May 2018, 02:52
+8 -0
The fact that you are including [...] among this group goes to show your inability to recognize a good teacher past your personal bias and renders your remaining argument suspicious. Every single alumnus who has been taught by that guy will vouch for his teaching ability and dedication. Plus, there's no teacher at NUJS with the the initials [...]. There are [...] (prof), and [...] and [...] and 2 [...] (assistant profs). At least get your own teachers' names right. I see you haven't included [...] in the list, which goes to show again your preference for easy grades and damn-all knowledge from teacher.
Moby 23 May 2018, 08:51
+1 -3
I am not a current student. My list is based on my experience with this list of Teachers. I may have not included a few who did not teach me. Also, the ability to teach is not limited to knowledge. Some of the listed Teachers could not look past the front row seated suck up students who were beneficiaries of good grades. Seems like you are one those pets who celebrate Teachers who are known to physically abuse students and later apologise. No matter how good you are with the law, you can’t be on the wrong side of the law. Hope this answers your comment.
Melville 23 May 2018, 12:17
+8 -1
Considering my objection to your list was not regarding the faculty accused of such abuse, no, it really doesn't answer my comment. Incidentally, the one whom I objected to being a part of that list has been systematically getting excellent student feedback ever since he joined NUJS, none of your argument against him holds. The mere fact that you do not like a teacher personally doesn't make him an incapable one. And you were not taught by the more inept people? What were you doing in those compulsory papers, playing hooky with PIB?
Moby 23 May 2018, 13:24
+0 -0
i think we are talking about different faculty members.
Junar Walagar 23 May 2018, 04:56
+2 -0
Better initial list of blatantly incompetent faculty is

1. [...]
2. [...]
3. [...]
4. [...]
5. [...]

All these cant write shit, plagiarize. take like half the classes and know diddly-squat about their subjects. Not only should they be kicked out but they should be made to pay back NUJS for the wages received for the last few years
Melville 23 May 2018, 09:24
+7 -0
So instead of typing out their names here, why don't the students formally complain against them before the authority? The answer has already been given by a commentator, greed for easy grades and attendance. These are the teachers such students deserve. As for the suggestions given by you, please learn a little bit of law too while you are in a law school. May just help in the days to come.
Student Representative 23 May 2018, 09:50
+13 -10
Untrue. The students have been giving horrible feedback to almost the entire faculty line up (including AKP) for years.

We have even RTI-ed the response sheets filled by students multiple times. PIB obviously never acted.

And it's convenient to defame us by raising questions as to our independence, as if we are the administrators, and have the solemn duty to ensure that we equally and fairly attack everyone in the first instance.

Well, at any rate, [...] might not be an honest academic. All of you are the scum that robs the very University that nurtured you.

No Jaiswal/MKS/SSC/NKC will be able to save you.

As a well-wisher, I'd suggest you guys leave without seeking any terminal benefits (in case you don't know what PIB is going through, the title of this article should help you get the drift).
Not my SR 23 May 2018, 12:08
+8 -13
And students still kept opting for the electives offered by those same teachers in droves despite them having got regular terrible feedback, instead of boycotting them and their courses altogether. So what message does that send exactly? We know that this guy is a bad teacher, but so long as he gives us attendance and grades, we are kinda okay with it.
It's indicative of your mindset when any person opposing your viewpoint is automatically a faculty or a sucking up student. Keep your wishes for those who need them. The fact remains that while the admin has never been protective or even reactive in the past few years to respond to student demands, getting PUB out is the one (and only) time we students have actually put our money where our mouth is. Never before nor after.
5thyear 24 May 2018, 20:04
+11 -3
Not everyone in the SJA cares about the poor administration, horrible teachers or the state of the University in general. A good enough chunk of the SJA is selfish. If you are a student or even a part of the University, you know that well enough. Even with PIB protest how many students did you actually see sitting in the sun at the Main Gate.

It is utopian to consider that all the students will boycott the course.

However, just because there is that selfish chunk who will opt for sham courses for easy attendance and marks, the SJA as a whole does not become selfish.
Not my SR 25 May 2018, 05:24
+6 -11
The problem is, at least 60 people apply for the courses of these teachers from every batch every year. That accounts for half the batch, if not more. If that big a chunk does not care about teacher quality or university, then the SJA, being after all majoritarian in nature, consisting of elective posts, is unlikely to be able to push for such reforms effectively. Nobody is claiming every SJA member is such. It's the overall picture, that's all.
5thyear 25 May 2018, 09:22
+10 -3
The problem is that the other electives offered are mostly average in quality and only few are good.

When the University does not provide you with good choices, I do not think students can be blamed for choosing sham electives with easier marking criteria. If taking these electives help in getting recruited and/or bringing laurels in extra curricular activities such as moots and debates where again the University hardly provides any help, can you really infer that choosing these electives mean that students do not care about teacher quality?

The students are smart and just make a prudent choice to take these electives as the best bargain the University offers. The same 60 students taking these electives would be glad to see such professors thrown out but only when the alternatives are better to the extent that they feel their academic interests are being harmed by still choosing sham electives.
SJA 23 May 2018, 09:41
+15 -5
Convenient cherry-picking. The SJA asked for 15 other courses in the same as well.

The real tragedy is that our faculty is completely but shamelessly incapable of actually offering a respectable number of courses or teaching us properly while they continue anonymous slander here after being exposed by us.
Not my SR 23 May 2018, 12:12
+8 -13
Asking for 15 other courses is well and good, but what about identifying the main problem, viz. faculty shortage? That's why sufficient courses aren't there. Even ad-hoc people aren't being taken under the new admin. Exposing people on LI isn't gonna cut it, man. We have far greater power in our hands, which we can and should use, albeit responsibly. All of us agree that there are some bad teachers, what about boycotting all their courses for a sem? But we won't be doing it, will we? Not even the courses of ad-hoc guest faculty from whose classes students walk out in droves. So, there you go!
Nooj 24 May 2018, 19:55
+11 -2
The petition also requests for, first, adding extra elective courses. Second, removing the coupling of courses (coupling electives into groups of 2 from which only one can be chosen) which the teachers have forced for their own convenience. Third, to open the better electives from the 4th year for the 5th year for those who could not opt it during the 4th year.

This comment makes the petition appear all about Water Law which is untrue. It was the most minor point in the whole petition. It is due to the lack of the electives being offered that the students are being forced to request for courses such as Water Law.

Also note that the Academic Department or the University UGC did not even care to reply why any of the requests are not possible. Such is the state of the administration.
Not my SR 25 May 2018, 05:32
+3 -9
How exactly will new courses be added with the currently dwindling number of faculty, pray tell? In the last year alone, 5 people have left and only one two new ones joined. There are at least 4 people shown to be on lien, who are just there on pen and paper. As for removal of the coupling, it is not only for the convenience of the teachers. As a student, I have a problem attending classes that go on till 8:30 p.m. or start at 8 in the morning. That's how the schedule will have to be without the coupling. I am not siding with anybody here, but to ask any teacher to stay back at the university till 8:30 p.m. is also not a fair expectation. The petition should have identified the real problem and pushed for that, according to me, which is getting new teachers asap. The interim VC has clearly mentioned he is not going to do the same anytime soon, given his own temporary position, which does not seem to be changing for this whole coming semester, actually, given not even a Search Committee has yet been formed (and unlikely to be formed before next EC Meeting in July).
As for your point of admin apathy, I FULLY CONCUR. Which goes to show that the rot within the system was by no means limited to PIB alone. Every person currently making admin decisions in the university is either incompetent, or negligent, or apathetic. My question is, how long are we going to let them be such?
Nooj 25 May 2018, 09:45
+11 -2
@NotmySR

There are some faculty who are offering only a single course this semester as per the list sent by Academic Department of the courses being offered including courses offered to LLMs. If the faculty numbers are dwindling it is upon the remaining faculty also to take some extra efforts by taking at least two courses per semester. There was some potential there to increase the courses offered.

Your assumption about classes going till 8.30 PM is completely wrong. If you do some basic calculation, you will realise that even after decoupling a few elective courses classes will not go beyond 6.30 PM on any given day even when no classes happen on Saturdays. Thus, there was no reason to group all the electives. No student wants to attend classes that late too. This was a totally convenience based argument made by the teachers.

About faculty recruitment, I request you to read the SJA petitions. There have been constant demands of adding upto 20-25 faculty members to reach a 1:10 teacher-student ratio. Do you really think adding faculty recruitment in the email would have solved anything. That the administration would have suddenly woken up and recruited faculty. This is the least practical solution for the problem at hand in short term but I agree that is the the only viable solution in long term. I assume the future SJAs would also continue to push for faculty recruitment.

About letting the administration be, just read the article you are commenting on again, the students just got the head of the administration removed. Even the Registrar has changed after concerns raised by students and Assistant Registrars too. This means the top administration of the college is almost completely revamped. I do share the concerns about the appointment of the Assistant Registrar for Administration though. But unfortunately, even if that does not work out for the better, I do not see any steps whatsoever that the students can take. Maybe the students should demand themselves to be appointed at these posts. Only if that was possible, right?
StudentNUJS 24 May 2018, 19:44
+11 -0
If it so obvious that this 'rather particular professor' is so bad why hasn't the administration thrown him out? Why has the system promoted him to the position of a 'Professor' in one of the top NLUs in the country? What have his better and enlightened peers done to expose him? Do they have no responsibility to speak against him?

It is just easier to throw the blame on the students. The students do not run the University. The first blame should lie on those who do.
Garfield 25 May 2018, 05:42
+4 -1
It seems obvious to the students. The admin has never expressed any problem with him so far. Students on the one hand keep raising doubts about his ability, and make fun of him, and yet keep opting for his papers. So the signal if any is rather mixed. As for the system of promotion in Indian academia, everybody knows it sucks. If you spend 15 years in a permanent position, it is almost impossible for you not to make Professor scale through UGC promotion (this guy apparently did that only, as did most of his other similarly places senior faculty). If you ask NUJS how many professors it actually has now, it will say 2 (the rest are promotees, go check the last AC meeting minutes if you don't believe me). Completely agree about first blame. My only objection is to the hypocrisy that some of my own batchmates and seniors are propagating, saying they want better teachers and not protesting against the actual bad ones.
Shade 21 May 2018, 07:57
+6 -2
Prof Paramjit Singh Jaswal is believed to be the frontrunner for the VC post, by virtue of his age and seniority in rank.
Bhaiya 21 May 2018, 08:39
+16 -0
If that guy comes down here, the handful of good people we have left will also be poised for exodus. Why can't NLUs get at least some competent and dynamic administrators, who also have at least some proper vision of how legal education should be like?
cookie 21 May 2018, 13:14
+5 -2
I am making 5 predictions about NUJS that will come true in 1 year.

The next VC will be even worse than PIB. Most likely he will be from Calcutta University and will be a state government nominee

Asansol Siliguri campuses will be cleared by the governing bodies

The handful of good faculty at present will leave. The worst will remain.

The two research schools at NUJS will stop. Probably [...], [...], will be made the heads and trash the centres. Has anyone seen the plagiarism in [...], [...], thesis?

Not a single of Mohan Gopal's recommendations will be acted on. Review report will be trashed.

NUJS will become the official No. 4 law school (Right now it is the unofficial No. 4)
sadfull 21 May 2018, 17:49
+3 -2
Prof. Sinha has decided not to apply for VC position at NUJS (whenever the add comes). The so-called pseudo-Bengali (il)legal scholars of nujs won half of their game.

Hey a&s company, ask these morons to carry on!!!
Guest 22 May 2018, 09:27
+4 -3
Yes, this is correct information. Jaswal is now the leading contender on seniority and should be the next VC.
Guest 22 May 2018, 09:32
+13 -5
The SJA are a bunch of whiners with fake grievances. For the SJA good faculty = someone who awards high marks. That's it . Plagiarists are fine, people who do not publish are fine, people who know nothing are fine.
Karan Arjun 22 May 2018, 11:41
+26 -12
As is evident from this statement of the ex-SJA president who considers himself a power-to-be now. LI should have asked him a single specific question, name one cogent step that the new VC has taken that's proven to be beneficial towards the institution yet! His entire statement is full of vague politician-like platitudes. If anything, the new VC has proven to be so painfully aware of his interim status that he is not even taking regular decisions that a vc should! And the EC is deliberately delaying selection of a new VC, as is clear from the way it has failed to even select a search committee in over a month.
Arjun Ag 23 May 2018, 09:32
+17 -18
Hi anonymous buddy,

Good job thrashing the collective wisdom of the NUJS Executive Council.

Why don't you get someone to interview me?

You'll be surprised on how many specific and nuanced points I want to make.
Karan Arjun 23 May 2018, 12:01
+14 -17
If you had those many nuanced points to make, it's surprising how not a single one of them did appear in the interview that you did give! As for doubting the 'collective wisdom' of a body that renewed the term of the worst VC NUJS ever faced and only agreed to accept his resignation once the students came out to the street, sure I did and do so doubt. I have every reason to and none not to. What about you answer my question regarding why even the search committee couldn't have been formed for almost 2 months now?
Arjun Ag 23 May 2018, 13:13
+15 -20
The nuanced points (that you allege my comment here lacks) have been made in our written letters to these Hon'ble statutory bodies (which are dated March 27, April 4 and 7, May 9 and 11 respectively). They have not only taken cognisance of our prayers but also taken immediate action in every single instance. These letters will be made public in due course, if required.

In the meanwhile, however, please don't appeal to your own ignorance. If you want these letters right now, shoot me an email at and I'll email them to you immediately.

Also, obviously your oversimplistic understanding of this situation can't possibly account for the fact that this is just a general comment sought from me after the story was published and not an interview. At any rate, I didn't feel obligated to write a separate article instead of a general comment.

But I do strongly encourage you to get someone to interview me on the specifics so that the world can know what should have been public in the first place.

Lastly, I never indulge with anonymous commentators so this will be my second and last comment on LegallyIndia.

I understand that it must be convenient for you to baselessly attack not only the students but also esteemed members of the community who form these Hon'ble statutory bodies. But, I do expect you to engage more directly and openly in the future instead of doing it here.

Regardless, do remember to shoot me an email (glad to receive it from a throwaway email account as well) for our letters with specific allegations and hundreds of pages of annexures.
Karan Arjun 23 May 2018, 13:45
+17 -15
Yeah, given you obviously did not address either of the two points I brought up in my original comment, but have been trying to sidestep both issues with what you have done under the previous administration mostly, pardon me if I don't take your words for what they appear to be. I have nothing to say against you or students for removing PIB. That was a job that needed to be done and we did it. As for any other immediate action, I am yet to see any change that benefits the students. Not a single advertisement has been published to recruit new teachers, finance or accounts officers etc. The Search Committee for a new VC is yet to be formed (and may not be formed till next EC meeting, which is at least 2 months away). The interim VC keeps saying he doesn't want to be here and hence won't take most required decision. The only two centres that actually did research at the university have been virtually closed down and UNICEF has withdrawn from one of them. This was done only on the strength of vague accusations and not a single coherent prima facie proof regarding either centre.

[...]

As a student, I am yet to see any cogent action having been taken to improve our situation barring removal of the ex-VC and that's what I have said. Appointment of one faculty member against whom multiple student complaints have been made in the past in an administrative position really doesn't do anything to inspire my confidence, thank you very much.
Karan Arjun 23 May 2018, 15:11
+4 -13
Kian, there's absolutely no reason why you censored that paragraph. [...]
kianganz 23 May 2018, 15:18
+14 -1
I am trying to raise the tone of discussion slightly, and ad hominem, particularly when one person is anonymous, is not really going to help anyone...
Karan Arjun 23 May 2018, 15:46
+9 -14
And 'appealing to my own ignorance', 'oversimplistic understanding' aren't ad hominem? Or can one say all that simply if they use their name? For that matter, how do you even know that's the real person? Did he use a registered account?
Stop it! 27 May 2018, 07:45
+3 -5
Why are you even commenting, ignoramous? Do you even know what additional hominem means?

Appeal to ignorance and oversimplification are distinct logical fallacies.
Bystander 23 May 2018, 19:34
+13 -8
It's easy to anonymously attack him here. I don't see why you think he is answerable to you, here, at this time, and your convenience when he is claiming due cognisance has been taken of (what he seems to claim are) detailed and written letters.


Why don't you email him for his petitions, or better still (if you're an actual student and not one of the faculty members left disgraced after his recent expose) raise it on internal email or social media forums?
Bystander 2 23 May 2018, 19:41
+15 -7
It's hard to ascertain your understanding of administrative workings. To me it seems non-existent for the following reasons:

First, many positive actions might have already been take place, including formation of the Search Committee, multiple inquiries including ones into the research centres you seem to assume are free from administrative maladministration. As the kid says, don't appeal to your own ignorance. For all we know, actions have been taken and duly recorded in minutes of the siad meetings. Unless you can upload those minutes here which you've definitely not accessed, you shouldn't comment on anyone's failure. Even I fail to see why you assume that this kid is obliged to answer you here.

Second, the students got the VC removed - all by themselves. Now you're expecting them to clean up everything already? All by themselves? Wow!
Standing by 25 May 2018, 05:14
+11 -12
Actually, nobody asked the ex-SJA President to answer/defend/explain anything. He seems to have done all of that on his own. He is the one who gave this statement to Legally India. The commentator named Karan Arjun simply appears to be questioned the lack of any cogent development in that statement, which he is perfectly entitled to do. Both appear to be students/ex-students of the institution, so there is no reason why one's knowledge about events happening there should be deemed superior to another. I saw despite having written two fairly long replies, the ex-President did not actually answer either of the actual questions that had been asked. Standard evasion tactics it seems to me. As for all the minutes you mention, actually, if one of the student representatives has had access to them in an EC/AC meeting, it is his duty to make it available to the rest of the GB or report on the same. Assuming he has done so, I would say all the students are exactly on the same page regarding exactly what has or has not been done. One of the responses even seemed to claim that the Search Committee might already have been formed without others knowing about it. Really? Such claims are the ones that should be presented with evidence. If someone says something has not been done, how will he present evidence of a negative? At least adhere to some logic! Did Arjun Ag(who is in the know) claim the committee has been formed? He didn't.
"All concerns have been taken cognisance of" - can one be vaguer than that? The question is, what is being done about it? Has advertisements been published? No. Have new teachers been recruited? No. Has any of the Review Commission recommendations been implemented? No. The only actual development seems to be replacing one interim registrar with another, putting a person of questionable record in an admin post, stopping an actively functioning research centre (resulting in withdrawal of UNICEF). I fail to see any positive development so far. When students see any, they will respond favourably, I'm sure.
Nobody said students have to clean up everything on their own, in fact Karan Arjun seemed to be a student himself. But before anything has actually been cleaned, to give the idea that it has been already done, does seem a tad populist. Arjun Ag claims to support the "collective wisdom of the EC members" and that the new interim VC "has brought a breath of fresh air". In the absence of any evidence to the contrary, one is perfectly entitled to question that. If he doesn't want to answer that, he could have chosen not to engage (or even not made the mostly useless statement to begin with).
It is no secret that many students would have a problem with raising it openly, because that would be seen as direct confrontation with the SJA (even an anon comment is receiving flak here). Who needs that grief within a small campus community? Can't blame any student for not doing that.
Actual Noojie 25 May 2018, 11:28
+10 -10
Students in NUJS have criticised the SJA with/without good cause in the last two years and the SJA has dealt with them quite properly, to say the least.

Karan Arjun might be a student, agreed. But if that's the case, at least s/he should raise such things in an internal forum, democratically, when the SJA is supposed to respond with their personal identifies attached to the replies.

Don't tell me that being a student, Karan is scared of Arjun guy, he has graduated - for God's sake.

Obviously, the only other possibility is that this Karan fellow is a coward who is definitely not a student. Probably one among VP, SB, RG, MM, AM or the gang - left pretty disgraced by SJA's representations in the AC on May 10. And definitely should be fearful of the Arjun guy who can still do a lot damage, especially now that he must have graduated.

My advise to them - please stop pushing through your stupid ulterior motives here by slandering a person whose finger nails have more integrity than all of you combined.

And, obviously, he doesn't have to reveal what he feels he doesn't need to reveal here, at this point, on account of your anonymous comments here.
Karan Arjun 25 May 2018, 13:23
+11 -9
I would have raised it in an internal forum if the statement Arjun made had been to the GB or an internal one. He has made it to LI and it got published here, so I'm raising it here. Clearly, you lack the logic to get that. Keep bashing the faculty here (which you too are doing anonymously, a touch of the famous integrity you referred to, I'm sure) and don't take any cogent and open step against the incompetent ones in reality, because clearly that makes all the difference in your world. Your sense of propriety in what individual dissenting students have had to face in the past in the name of discussion (social media bullying/bashing, vulgar memes etc.) does not match mine, and I am thankful for that. If you feel Arjun does not have to give any explanation for public statements he makes to a forum in the same forum, that's your belief. You are welcome to that. I, on the other hand, am entitled to my belief that he should. Hence I'm calling it out. Simple. Maybe you should get a nail cutter to borrow some of the oodles of integrity you refer to (hyperboles after crossing a limit, stop being sarcastic and becomes plains sad).
Actual Noojie 25 May 2018, 14:28
+10 -6
Thanks for conclusively proving that you're not a student.


SJA has already emailed detailed updates and progress to the students.

If you have an ounce of integrity, please "reply to all" there.

Otherwise do shut up!
Karan Arjun 25 May 2018, 15:34
+8 -9
Yes, SJA did. And there it didn't claim that everything is well and good and kowtowed to the "collective wisdom" of the EC and claimed the new VC has brought "a breath of fresh air" or any such rubbish as this statement by Arjun contained. Which is what I've been trying to get past your shield of integrity all this while. It was a straightforward report of certain happenings, which has not yielded any positive result yet for student welfare in my opinion. Could SJA have done more at this stage? Maybe, maybe not. Is SJA entirely content and not going to do anything more after that meeting? Certainly not. So why on earth should I have raised any objection to that mail? It's not as if they were claiming their agenda has ended with that mail, nor making tall claims about the current admin. Maybe if you stop behaving like a blind supporter of an individual and focus more on logic/sense/the institution, you would realise that. Otherwise, keep telling me to shut up. Shows your true colour. [...] Just like Arjun isn't obligated to respond to my comments here (as per your arguments), so am I not obligated to shut up simply because you wish me to.
Internal Source 26 May 2018, 21:16
+8 -4
Hi KaranArjun,

No, you coward, you could have asked him why nothing else was accomplished in these meetings and he would probably have responded to your comments regarding AO/FO positions, Search Committee, etc.
Frustrated Alum 26 May 2018, 21:39
+7 -4
You have an internal forum, right? Your SJA has even subscribed to AlmaConnect recently (if I am not wrong). Your President has made this comment to a public website, as your President. Do they still teach about constructive notices? You're critiquing his statement here of all places (seemingly) due to jealousy/ignorance/both. Otherwise, if your comments are indeed [i]bona fide[/i], why are you hiding behind the shield of anonymity? Why don't you have the courage to question him in your name? Maybe on one of the internal forums or even on AlmaConnect? He has commented as your President. Say you think this is vague, unsubstantiated and must be withdrawn, under your own name? Give him a chance to respond, after you put your money where your mouth is and are not being a coward anymore. The man is offering to be interviewed for God's sake - give me a break!

Also, if you are an actual student, I don't get this sense of thanklessness either. Student representation itself is a thankless job. Especially in any organised and apolitical student body, the threat of persecution by the administration always looms large - at least it did in our times, when a few of us attempted to go against corrupt high ranking officials. And, it seems NUJS SJA for this edition is going down in history books for managing to chuck out the Vice Chancellor and the Registrar for corruption and inefficiency, within a span of a month despite its apolitical nature.

They have done so in a highly organised, non-disruptive and (must I add) inspiring manner for all such politically affiliated unions. There has been a full administrative rinse along with a historic number of external inquiries into matters at NUJS in the last Exec Council, where these guys represented you. Unless, of course, you expect your reps to be [i]genies[/i], I don't see how you can even say "could SJA have done more at this stage? Maybe, maybe not ".

All of this, or you must be a disgraced faculty member as a lot of previous comments strongly suggest. Very shameful, either way.
Karan Arjun 27 May 2018, 03:59
+4 -8
@Frustrated Alum: First of all, he is no longer the SJA President, so he cannot comment in that capacity anyway. Secondly, I mentioned in my earlier comments exactly why I am not dissenting in my own name, along with instances of bullying/repercussion faced by others. Kian chose to censor that, so I can't help it. Maybe things have changed since your time, so much so that individual students are now afraid of dissenting in the open, with the disciplinary system inside campus shot down to pieces anyway. Visit the SJA FB page and browse through posts of last couple of years and you will find plenty of reports about some students being targeted for various reasons by others. With regard to removal of PIB and earlier Acting Registrar, I have made absolutely no objection and in fact supported it. My objections were on completely different grounds, and so far, in case you failed to notice, despite 6-7 fairly lengthy comments (and 2 of them from the ex-President himself), you will find that none of those has actually addressed those points. So far as the so-called 'historical inquiries' go, again, I do not agree that all of them are actually achieving anything constructive for the students, when several far more pressing concerns are there to be focused upon anyway, including not a single one of the RC recommendations (things which actually help the students) having been even discussed. However, that's the SJA's decision and as I said, I am not going to comment upon that here. My original objections to the statement stand the same, since despite seeing a lot of ruffled feathers, I am yet to see any answer to either of them. All those who have an objection to me raising it here spent a lot of words to shout me down, but didn't provide any answer to any of them. That's instructive. Chiefly because there was no answer to be provided.
@Kian: If you choose to censor this comment too, then there's actually no use publishing the others in response, right? Because I have said all of this before and you still keep publishing vitriol in response. I see your vaunted publishing standard does not extend to censoring name-calling. Clearly shows the double standard.
What? 27 May 2018, 07:20
+4 -3
Doesn't the academic year end in June sometime?

Otherwise how did the Academic and Executive Councils allow him to weeks back?

So how is he former President, again?
Stop it! 27 May 2018, 07:35
+4 -3
Which of the three is it? You can ask him directly or internally because:

he is not President anymore, or

he didn't update you with this exact comment internally while updating you (sometime recently) with the substantive updates, or

you're afraid you will be bullied?

The last one sounds like the most amount of crap, tbh.
Karan Arjun 27 May 2018, 04:19
+6 -9
Oh, and you know what? I give up and capitulate to all your stellar logic. The university is in perfect shape, the new interim VC is a gale of fresh air, with minty overtones, the EC members display the wisdom of Solomon, the new interim Registrar and Assistant Registrar are going to be proven as paragons of efficiency and integrity, the research output will soon touch if not surpass Harvard and Yale regardless of Research Centres shutting down, external funds will keep flowing in so much so that we would need three accounts officers just to keep track of it all(despite the shutting down of distance education courses and not having NAAC accreditation), the hostel scene will improve drastically using tesseract tech, each faculty member (the plagiarising ones, the incompetent ones) will just be ashamed to see the hard-working efforts of the SJA and the ex-SJA representatives and either transform into the very best, or quit, the infra is going to put Jindal to shame in the next year, and the range of papers offered will put all other law universities in the country and beyond in a serious complex. Did I miss anything? Oh, the placements. We are number one in anyway (no thanks to the university, but only the students), so there is just nowhere left to go in that front. I hope I have made everyone very happy now, including Kian. If not, I still have a year left at this place, so will keep trying.
Karan Arjun 27 May 2018, 05:21
+0 -8
Kian, you did not publish one whole comment this time! Incremental censorship?
Stop it! 27 May 2018, 07:47
+4 -3
Also, curious why KaranArjun wouldn't even assert the opposite after all the serious aspersions cast on his status as a student of NUJS!!!
SC lawyer 22 May 2018, 11:44
+1 -1
Is it true that Yogesh Pratap Singh, the Registrar of SC is in the running for the VCship? He was a professor at KIIT, then SC Registrar, and now NUJS VC. That is what you call meteoric rise.
Clerk Kent 22 May 2018, 12:21
+8 -0
How can anybody be actually in the running before even the Search Committee has been constituted?
SC lawyer 22 May 2018, 12:57
+0 -1
Once you get to the SC and are in direct contact with the Chancellor everyday, you don't need a search committee.
Guest 22 May 2018, 13:33
+0 -0
I don't think so. The KIIT Orissa Dean had applied for RMLNLU and may apply here. But unlikely to get it. Jaswal is the favourite, followed perhaps by Deva Rao. Remember that what matters is age and seniority of experience. The prestige of the university you went to, quality of publications etc are not relevant.
none of this 23 May 2018, 02:23
+2 -0
what will matter is only how acceptable the applicant is to the state government. some chatterjee, banerjee or mukherjee will be brought in from some law department
Luther 22 May 2018, 14:21
+14 -0
First 6 chapters of the PhD thesis by a rather particular professor given below, checked by Turnitin. What now, kids?? Let's see how genuine you people really are when you talk about faculty quality. How much sympathy you actually deserve.

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Turnover 23 May 2018, 03:00
+9 -8
Luther, while I get your point and have no idea about this guy otherwise, this is not how plagiarism is detected via Turnitin software. What you are showing is similarity, not plagiarism. For example, one needs to check whether a sentence that is being highlighted has also been provided with citation. If it has been, then it can no longer be counted as plagiarism unless that citation is found to be a false one. That's just one example, there are other steps that need to be taken before you can call a paper to be plagiarized substantially. Now, this paper may even still be plagiarized, I won't know, but one shouldn't arrive at that conclusion simply from the images of the reports that you have posted. Not sure if you are a student of NUJS, if so, then I'm surprised your teachers sunt explain the way plagiarism software works and the process of using them. Don't tell me even student papers are subjected to discipline based on how you presented this? That would be travesty of justice!.
Pi 23 May 2018, 11:09
+9 -0
Plagiarism is generally described as passing off someone else's intellectual output as ones own. It is true that turnitin does not detect plagiarism it is merely a text matching software and qualitative assessment has to be made in order to find out if plagiarism has been committed. If there is a quote and the person cites the source in footnote or endnote there is no plagiarism. If there is too much text match but they are well cited it may be sloppy and poor research but it is not plagiarism. However, in this case if we look at the introduction - it has been lifted straight out of an internet source. And the person has not cited any of the sources. Therefore under any definition of plagiarism this is plagiarism.
Rather particular 23 May 2018, 12:25
+6 -7
Pi, I agree with most of what you said. But as someone who's suffered as a student from faulty interpretation of Turnitin reports, it's fully possible that software is actually highlighting similarity with this very thesis from where it has been published online (after all, it's gotta be couple of decades old). I mean, let's face it, who else would write this sort of thing? :P
Guest 23 May 2018, 12:53
+4 -0
Turnover and pi has made valid points. turnitin is just a text detection device. but looking at the screenshots, i feel that a proper look at the whole thing is required. such a high similarity index would normally invite a closer scrutiny. can someone post the whole report pls?
Pi 24 May 2018, 15:45
+3 -0
Did a bit of digging up - the intro is a cut and paste from an old msn article which is lifted out of 80s text book. No citation/ref to any source has been given in the thesis.
Bhaiya 24 May 2018, 16:03
+4 -11
Incidentally, the concerned teacher happens to be the faculty advisor of SJA ;)
Insider 24 May 2018, 18:22
+10 -2
No, the SJA seems to have come down rather heavily on their present faculty advisor, RG in Academic Council held two weeks back.
Bhaiya 25 May 2018, 05:36
+2 -7
Dude/tte, had you really been an insider, you would have known that there had been a new office order replacing RG as the SJA faculty advisor by Rather Particular Professor (who was the earlier advisor) within 2 weeks of the original order appointing her (since she did not want that position). Stop parading your half-baked knowledge.
Insider 25 May 2018, 14:29
+8 -2
No, bhaiya. That order was only an extension upto April 30 for AKP. Since May 1, RG is the faculty advisor of SJA. SJA took a strong stance against her on May 10 in the AC. Stop writing shit.
Mobius strip 25 May 2018, 05:51
+2 -0
Nope. You have got outdated info. RG did not want to take up that position and had been replaced by Rather Particular within a few days.
Guest 23 May 2018, 05:03
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Trolling at its best 23 May 2018, 09:34
+11 -5
It is so convenient for keyboard warriors to impose the burden of stopping all injustices in the University at once on the students.

Laughable.
Bhaiya 23 May 2018, 12:28
+6 -6
I fully agree it's not our burden to stop every injustice. But it is our responsibility to protest against each and every one of them. Because, let's face it. If not us, then who?
observer 23 May 2018, 13:01
+3 -2
I get the impression that the students shy away from doing anything about some incompetent faculty members just because they keep the students happy by giving them marks or not enforcing academic discipline. at some point all the competent people will feel out of place and leave.

also note that all the so called good VCs that people keep mentioning here are really strict with the students and enforce a lot of discipline. Ask anyone at NLUD or former NALSAR students about Ranbir Singh's style of functioning. Menon was also no different. It seems to me that only benevolent dictators can produce good results.
Darkseid 23 May 2018, 13:10
+6 -0
@Observer: Absolutely! Menon was legendary in terms of his dictatorial nature. It's just that he really did care about students and the institution and also had the vision and strength of conviction to back it up. Haven't met Ranbir Singh more than once personally, but have heard similar things about him too, though in different manner.
Guest 23 May 2018, 17:32
+0 -0
Correct.
DearLuther 24 May 2018, 20:12
+8 -1
Nobody wants your sympathy.

And if you are so concerned about the rather particular professor, why not get some guts and sent these plagiarism reports to the administration on your own. Tag the SJA too.

Use a fake email-id. Have some guts. But I doubt that would happen. Otherwise you would have already done that rather than posting it here anonymously.

But if you do grow some balls and do it, then we will also see how serious the administration is about academic standards and the standards of the faculty it employs.
Anony 24 May 2018, 23:54
+2 -0
It is rather strange that none of the Phd theses from the National Law School do not find a place on Shodganga. Once the public is given access to that set, we will truly know the quality of the research that was taking place in the Harvard of the East.
Mous 25 May 2018, 05:56
+2 -0
@Anony: Ideally, as per UGC regulations, all universities in India are supposed to upload all the theses on to the UGC platform from where they go to Shodhganga. You know as well as I do why some people have been avoiding doing it.
Guest 22 May 2018, 19:28
+0 -0
He is a deputy registrar at the SC. He was an Assistant Professor at KIIT. No chance for any VCship for the next 10 years atleast.
might be 23 May 2018, 07:37
+3 -0
Is this inquiry is going to be for just face saving or it is going to arrive at logical conclusion
Guest 23 May 2018, 10:09
+3 -1
Very important question: Will an open advertisement be issued for the next VC??
Adguru 23 May 2018, 12:26
+6 -2
Nope. Mostly private placement and preferential offer.
Very particular 24 May 2018, 19:27
+5 -0
University Grants Commission Promotion of Academic Integrity and Prevention of Plagiarism in Higher Education Institutions Regulations 2018

"Plagiarism" means an act of academic dishonesty and a breach of ethics. It involves using someone else's work as one's own. It also includes data plagiarism and self- plagiarism;

If any member of the academic community suspects with appropriate proof that a case of plagiarism has happened in any document, he or she shall report it to the competent/designated authority of the university. Upon receipt of such a complaint or allegation the university authority shall refer the case to the Academic Misconduct Panel (AMP) of the HEI who in turn shall submit a report to the Plagiarism Disciplinary Authority (PDA).

Penalty in case where the degree/credit has already been obtained - If plagiarism is proved on a date later than the date of award of degree or credit as the case may.be then his/her degree or credit shall be put in abeyance for a period decided by the AMP and PDA.

https://www.ugc.ac.in/pdfnews/8864815_UGC-Public-Notice-on-Draft-UGC-Regulations,-2017.pdf
NUJS Alumnus 2011 25 May 2018, 15:49
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@All the commentators who are still insiders here: Apologies if this sounds pompous or self-righteous, because neither is my state of mind right now, but can you please keep trying to solve the internal problems of the university by keeping it within the university, instead of bickering like this in public? It does not convey a very good impression among the outsiders, you know, not even among recruiters. There are reports about other NLUs posted here and people bicker there too in the comments, but mostly it is between NLUs (which is bad too, but not as bad as students from the same place doing it, where both parties presumably want the betterment of the institution only). I doubt any teacher would have actually stooped this low to bicker anonymously with students here (I sincerely hope I am right). By all means highlight problems in media when the actual avenues of resolving them have failed you (like the ex-VC), but giving regular 'bites' to the media after every meeting of university bodies and fighting on 'policy issues' here in the comments really does not achieve anything whatsoever, other than leaving a bad taste in the mouth of alumni who chance across these. You are better than this. And you can do better than this. Is the cohesion among the student community deteriorated that much in the last few years? I really, really hope not. It has always been a place where students have behaved responsibly (often far more responsibly than the admin). Please keep it that way. Don't let yourselves be used by others and their petty vested interests.
Alum 2 26 May 2018, 14:05
+0 -0
^This. Exactly this.
Guest 26 May 2018, 09:18
+0 -3
Prof Jaswal is 80% likely to be the next VC according to a senior faculty member.
Punjabi Tadka 26 May 2018, 11:02
+3 -0
Our senior faculty can calculate probability too? Or did they get this percentage from Turnitin report?
NUJS Alumnus 2011 26 May 2018, 11:05
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Kian, you don't have to publish this. I was just wondering why my earlier comment hadn't been published. Insofar as I remember, I didn't attack anyone, nor named any names or done anything against your publication policy. I really hope it's not because I asked people to be circumspect about letting bad blood show to all and sundry, as I don't think you could be possibly enjoying that either particularly.
kianganz 26 May 2018, 11:13
+1 -1
Sorry, had missed, now published.
Guest 26 May 2018, 16:29
+0 -0
..... on those senior faculty members
Guest 26 May 2018, 16:31
+0 -0
It's time to bring back Prof M P Singh / Prof Menon just for a year and to overcome all these difficulties.
Particular 27 May 2018, 11:40
+2 -0
This is an article. It is on law. Rather it is on particular branch of law as is called as Water Law. It is the very important subject. It deals with water. So it has lot of importance in the future of the mankind. Rather women kind also. THE END.

~ Professor NUJS-is-going-to-the-dogs
Guest 28 May 2018, 07:27
+0 -0
If the govt wants a Bengali VC the frontrunner will probably be NK Chakrabarty of KIIT Orissa (who had applied to be RMLNLU VC but was unsuccessful). Quite a decline after high profile people like Menon, Chimni, MP Singh.
Supporter of NUJS 28 May 2018, 12:41
+0 -2
Outlook Magazine has ranked NUJS as #2 best law college after NLSIU. What criticism you will make of faculty and administration now? It happened because of their leadership only.
Bhaiya 28 May 2018, 14:20
+9 -1
Last week, as many as 5 NUJS students have graduated from the Harvard LL.M. Batch (2017-18). Not comparing with any other law school or anything, just super happy and excited to have seen this happen :)
Alumlawyer 7 Jun 2018, 12:01
+2 -0
These reports about plagiarized phds are an eye-opener. Beats me why institutions wouldn't conduct basic checks before making appointments. Also, so much for all the big talk here a while back about people needing to phds to do this and that. If this is the phd one needs to become VC and professor and whatever, gawd save our law schools.
Guest 8 Jun 2018, 04:26
+1 -0
Well previously PhDs were not being uploaded online, now they are available. So the UGC has enacted the new plagiarism rule saying disciplinary action will be taken against a faculty member found guilty of plagiarism. Anyone can make a complaint. But rest assured that no one will. Other PhD thesis are also available online.
Guest 8 Jun 2018, 05:43
+1 -1
Are you trying to call the SJA/students out this way? Since when is it the students' responsibility to point out plagiarism in the thesis of teachers? I mean, they can if they want to, but not doing it doesn't hold them guilty/responsible. On the contrary, since the university started using plagiarism detection software, it should have fed all existing faculty members' research (at least the ones instrumental to degrees, like LL.M./M.Phil. dissertation, Ph.D./LL.D. thesis etc.) through such software. No NLU has done that yet, I am sure and every one of them is responsible for negligence (deliberate). The thing is, who will take such initiative when the seniormost teachers of the institution are themselves guilty of such?
Guest 7 Jun 2018, 12:37
+0 -1
Why is pressure not being for a public advertisement of the VC position?
Guest 20 Jun 2018, 06:10
+0 -1
It is two and a half months since PIB left VCship. Where is the advertisement for VC position?
Guest 20 Jun 2018, 08:07
+0 -1
Not even the Search Committee has been formed yet, let alone beginning the selection process. Mostly because nobody cares.
SDK 20 Jun 2018, 09:04
+1 -1
As per secret meeting of hon'ble EC the qualifications for next hon'ble VC of The WBNUJS is as follows:-

1. He/She must be Bangali

2. He/She must be state government crony or yes-man

3. He/She must be expert on how to plagiarize rather particularly (extra points for first hand experience)

4. He/She must be willing to open 2nd/3rd/4th campus

5. He/She must be harbouring anti-ICC policies

6. He/She must be fascinated by high status students and high-status daddy/mommy

Interested persons can apply by 2050 which is the deadline