Breaking: 71% pass All India Bar Exam; 6,300 grads fail/to retake

Just over 71 per cent of candidates passed the first All India Bar Exam (AIBE), according to a Bar Council of India (BCI) press release, which would mean roughly 6,300 graduates enrolled for the exam would have to retake it including Chennai graduates.

According to a BCI press release circulated today [PDF hosted on Legally India servers], BCI chairman Gopal Subramanium said: “The pass percentage for the first AIBE is just above 71%. The pass percentage amongst male and female candidates is nearly the same and I wish each passing candidate all the very best for their legal career ahead.

“Candidates who were unable to pass the AIBE should not lose heart as they will be allowed to take the next AIBE (details of which will be provided shortly) and I encourage them to study hard and take this up as a challenge.”

The release did not state how many candidates not counted in the 71 per cent pass rate did not pass due to non-attendance or failing to achieve the correct score.

The press release added:

The results of the first AIBE can be accessed online through the BCI website (www.barcouncilofindia.org) and candidates can find out their individual result by typing in their Roll No. for the AIBE. State Bar Councils across the country are also being sent a list of the results of the candidates who took the AIBE in their state.

Results can be accessed over the following link, but the BCI website currently appears to be experiencing heavy traffic and is very slow.

Note: For those needing to find out their roll number but unable to access the BCI site due to traffic, you can download the list of roll numbers from Legally India’s server here.

Update 15:27: Approximately 1,600 candidates did not manage to take the exam in Chennai first time around, according to the BCI convenor.

Update 15:59: The BCI convenor said that the final grading for pass marks was a flat 40%. The split of minimum 9 and 31 correction answers from part 1 and 2 respectively, was “subject to Expert Committee Approval” and was not final, said the convenor.

Comments

Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 19:29
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Mr. Kian,

Facing problem in opening the site. It seems due to heavy traffic BCI site is not opening, if possible why don't you transfer the results to your site also. Whichever the site opens we can view the results.
Thanks

LK Rao
Anoop Prakash 19 Mar 2011, 19:37
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Go to hell Bar Council of India with Mr. Gopala Subramaniam with all his misadventures, I Scored just 71, I think lots of answers are wrong in the RM/key, now they must publish it as per undertaking given by them in the Court that they will take a decision in this regard within a shot time.

My fellow advocates who could not clear BCI's Exam, please file an undertaking again and you will get provisional right to practise till clearing the next exam. This is how the system of BCI is?

Jai Ho!!
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 19:41
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it was nice exam and its very good result over all 71%.
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 19:43
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got a 92/100. Expected 95. Well Close enough.
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 19:48
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76 here jai hind jai maharashtra..
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 19:50
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please kian please put up the result here
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 19:54
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What is the three highest numbers scored...?
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 20:09
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To #7

may be it will be declared after chennai test.
lex suprema 19 Mar 2011, 20:09
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brothers do not make a mockery of yourselfs....for this damn exam....ur boasting for the marks u obtained.....brothers think about those hwo couldnt mk it....coz sm of them might have genuine problem....... Though i myself have cleared it...by i will refrain from putting my marks here..
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 20:12
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I think the Bar Council should also publish it's own answer key. I got lower than I expected.
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 20:14
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#8 How Noble.
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 20:15
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this unplanned exam was not required for 2010 grads at least. yet v didn't really have a choice. who gets how many marks, how does it matter? point is if u pass, good enough, if u don't well, sorry the ordeal isn't over yet and go through 26 subjects again.
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 20:15
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Papu pass hao gya
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 20:17
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anoop well done you have passed the examination . congratulation
lex suprema 19 Mar 2011, 20:20
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so this is the future of India........plz brothers do not tk me wrong......
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 20:22
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@lex supreme: you know what, you have just passed and scored low. This is the reason why you are refraining from posting your marks.
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 20:24
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agree with #8. getting high scores in this exam means nothing. our real exam begins from now. every case is an exam for a lawyer. but I am really sad for my those advocate brothers who could not clear the 1st aibe.my best wishes for them.
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 20:25
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I would really like to know what was the average score, how many in the range of above 90 etc
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 20:27
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Kian, your calculation of 6300 candidates failed doesn't account for the applicants from Chennai who have not yet written the exam.

[You are right, meant to correct that earlier but did not get around to it. -Kian]
lex suprema 19 Mar 2011, 20:38
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to #16......... even if i had scored low..which i have not...i wont have mind putting my marks here.....if only the exam was acceptable to me....brother.... ur good student i kn...but think about the rest...how u can help them....they r our fellow brothers only....
robin sin 19 Mar 2011, 20:52
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scored 69 bu hardly matters as i cheated a lot,,but i think lot many wer not lucky enough to have the privilage of sneking around
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 20:53
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Thank you for the news Kian. While, I know my results and am glad with them. I still cant stop thinking how much of a waste of time this exam was.

When I did step into the exam hall and looked at the paper, I have to admit i really had the worst words to say to GS in light of the entire day being wasted due to this exam. This was the case until one guy asked me " Under which article does Right to health fall under?". At that moment I was sure that for such characters this exam was most important.

But in conclusion and after having gone through the entire exercise, i still feel its a waste of time and instead the BCI should focus on improving the quality of education at colleges.
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 20:53
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Dear Mr. Kian,

Thanks for your assistance and help. I myself and my friend Sreenvas Reddy we both passed the exam. Pls convey my thanks to Abhudaya.

Congratulations to all whoever passed the AIBE exam.

Regards,
LK Rao
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 20:55
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Sorry small spelling mistake, "Abhyudaya"
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 20:56
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(sigh of relief) chalo..finally..its over for that 71% lot..after months of staying irritated and cribbing bout the AIBE and the hopeless BCI, the delays and BCI's mismanagement and everything else.. khatam hua drama!All's well that ends well! All the best guys and thanks a lot Kian for giving us all sorts of updates from time to time.
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 20:57
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I think the answers are correct.. i have got what i had calculated..anyways who the hell is bothered about the marks in an open book man.. the only thing to rejoice is its over...now we can proudly practise as an advocate not bothering about the decision sc would take, which it being the apex court should have taken till now.


The results and the happiness after that is short lived what is the larger question is why was justice denied to us , why dint the sc take any action earlier.
If we could not as advocates get justice for ourselves whom should the people of the country trust for justice
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 21:00
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@lex suprema: this profession is not for students who fail this examination. This was the very purpose of introducing the exam. The purpose was not to retain the cream, but to avoid the dumbest categories.
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 21:01
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71 % is too high. should be 30% like in western countries
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 21:02
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78 marks...
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 21:19
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Still can't view the results. The results page refuses to open. :sad:
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 21:35
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I agree with #27.
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 21:38
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ha ha ha...I also had some similar experience like #22 in the exam hall..such students really need to crack aibe & enter the bar..I also agree with the view of #27.
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 21:46
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@ 30...i am sure you have flunked
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 21:54
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any one know how they calculated the pass mark.is 31:9 or not
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 21:55
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I scored 82, most my friends and classmates scored in the 80-90 range.
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 22:51
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^^^^ Anoop,
Even I want them to publish the answer key. I was expecting 96 but I got 90. Although close I still want to see where I went wrong.
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 23:05
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btw Anoop BCI was not supposed to reveal marks. Yeh tumhari PIL ka result hai kya?
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 23:05
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The man gets role in the the society with the supremacy of his soul.

Does this examination guarantee standards of this profession?
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 23:21
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Bar Council working on a holiday... nice.
Anonymous guest 19 Mar 2011, 23:35
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guys the worst is over for most of us atleast 71% of us. good thing is we are no longer glorified clerks but lawyer with full rights to sign valkalathnama and give legal opinion on matters.
HAPPY HOLI TO ALL.
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 00:08
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I am a lawyer practising in Delhi and have been following the AIBE story for a while (I graduated many years ago and was not subject to it) in various media, including newspapers, websites etc. As a member of the legal profession, which I believe needs to be modernised and improved on every account, I am completely supportive of the various steps that the BCI has outlined in its Vision Statement (I am not sure if most of the people on this site have even read it). Clearly the BCI and its vendors need to improve their act and get smarter very quickly but it is very sad to see the cynicism amongst young lawyers today, that they are unable to understand the big steps that need to be taken and why the AIBE is a step in the right direction. What is worse is the negative role played by sites like Legally India in this issue. Please don't get me wrong, I completely agree that it is important to debate every point but a media outlet like this one has done nothing form its side to create even a moderate debate about the state of the profession and what needs to be done. Instead the focus is just on ensuring that the status quo is maintained. And of course, increasing eyeballs by spreading misinformation - do note that despite it being pointed out in one of the comments, the headline with a wrong number continues to be up, perpetuating the negative bias. Last of all, it is sad to see the future generations of a great profession being led astray by such media - especially when they have no credentials to speak of. Mr. Ganz - what do you know of the Indian legal profession? Have you ever seen a trial or sat in court for days? Have you ever been to a law school in a Tier-III town in India? Did you study law in India? Are you even aware about the illustrious history of our legal profession - would the name H.R. Khanna or M.C. Setalvad even ring a bell?

Democracy is about freedom and choice - and every lawyer on Legally India has the right to be on it (I of course will exercise mine and stop coming here after this). But I hope you remember that you are a part of a profession and all the decisions you make, and the things that you choose to believe in, will determine your career and have an impact on the profession as a whole. Good luck to everyone..
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 00:41
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The euphoria and the doggedness shown by the BCI in so called successful AIBE does not answer the flaw in the exam- if one does not pass CAT/IAs Prelim.CET/ CPT or any other proficiency exam , he deosn not go to that course and opts for the couse best suited to his talents. Now look at AIBE , here a student goes for a course - soends 3-5 years , passess out, get enrols as an advocatw , and then comes the AIBe - pass me otherwise don't practice. So what about my lost years ?? Where do I go now on wards? Regrettably , hon Sc was busy in scam cases and did not find time to address this elemeantary query , which would not have taken a few minutes to understand. But the th8is is how the systems run in this country. By the way, I have passed out with 86% marks but that does not matter.
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 00:50
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dear abhishek i made around 78 correct, thereafter i did't bother so i feel some 7 answers are wrong in the bci/rm key
anoop
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 01:13
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Hey I got 90 as expected...d answer key was exactly accurate for me....Happy wid results...

But still i oppose AIBE...its really ridiculous n shameful dat we giv such exm to say "yes we deserve to b d lawyers"..d question is, wat d hell den we did during law course?

Those 30% who failed AIBE must b OverDumb people...coz any person who has read the subjects in syllabus of AIBE evn once during law course is capable to pass it easily...
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 01:16
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@41 I donno whether you've been keeping up with the posts here but lemme asure you this site has achieved what no other legal info site has achieved in India in a short period of time. The nature of posts on this site are neutral and the blogs are informative. As far as Mr. Ganz knowing anything about the legal profession is concerned, the very fact that the chairman of the BCi is in touch with him goes to show his level of contact with Indian legal fraternity.

General observation, not directed at you.
As far as the Bar exam goes- I subscribe to the school of thought that there is need for one and it should be tougher in the future than in the current format. If you think lawyers in India become geniuses of law on passing the law degree think again.

Bar Exam is present in both the US as well as the UK which for your info have much higher standards of education vis a vis India (atleast in the legal edu sector).
When we're ready to copy their laws into our system (which is infact the case with most laws in this country) y not copy the bar exam condition as well?
LegalPoet 20 Mar 2011, 01:32
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Dear Commenter of this comment:

" Last of all, it is sad to see the future generations of a great profession being led astray by such media - especially when they have no credentials to speak of".

....

Go see a psychologist, you need help.

Mr. Ganz and his website have reported the Bar Exam, as it is.

He clapped when they deseved ovation and rapped when they went wrong.

Its Mr. Ganz's website which now is probably the most visited places, where lawyers in India can debate. A website where space is given to every opinion.

Mr. Ganz even published your comment! Does that not say something about his credentials?

And while being patriotic is good, I'll request you not to bring "you don't understand us" rhetoric. This is 2011 Sir.
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 02:00
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#41, dudu senior!! howmuch is the maximum payment that u hv ever paid to ur junior??

did u ever heard "patriotism is the last resort of a scoundral"
so shutup and refrain from mkg allegations against legally india.
lex suprema 20 Mar 2011, 02:04
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to Mr. 27 i do not believe in survival of the fittest.. i believe in the Indian tradition which says....." SARVE VaVANTU SHIKHINAHA.........." so there is no point ignoring who could not make it....u will mk a difference only when u will find out the reason and mk those who couldnt mk it this time ...to ur level......then only equality in its true sense will be achieved ....which is enshrined in our constitution.......
lex suprema 20 Mar 2011, 02:05
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Mr. s Saha.....dont be over joyed coz the real exam will start now......lets see...
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 02:31
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Mr. lex suprema

u saw a dream that I m overjoyed? whatever be my result it doesn't bother me..bcoz I cud hv & I will continue my practice even if I would not have appeared & passed in that exam..but what surprises me is that even in a open book exam of 3.30 hrs consisting of basic questions of law, a law graduate cud not score even 40!!!God knows whose negligence!!but I believe in what u hv sown so shall u reap.

this is not 1970, this is 2011..here quality matters..coz competition is real tough..and regarding real exam I must tell u that I am appearing in it every day when I joined practice soon after getting enrolment..and remember one thing that learning never goes wasted..

whatever I learnt while preparing for AIBE will help me for the rest of my career & also refreshed my memory..

definitely passing with good marks in aibe does not mean that one will definitely shine in future..but failure in this exam means something that one is definitely going to suffer if he joins the bar..

may be I am wrong.but still the question of failure in aibe remains.........
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 02:33
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Completely agree with @45 and @46. Kian has never misguided any1. nor has legally india misguided any1. Infact for bar exam as well as for result updates, i have checked Legally India's website first and then checked BCI's website. Bcoz many a times information used to be published on legally India's website and then on BCI. The site and Kian have been indeed helpful to u.

Dear Kian,
I dont know wat others have to say about you or this site. I am seriously thankful to you and this site. Appearing for this exam would not have been as exciting as it was, had it not been for this site or constant post and comments herein.

I have scored 80 marks... I dedicate my success to Legally India.

3 cheers to Legally India..
Hip Hip Hurrey!!
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 02:35
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who is the topper?
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 02:59
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The exam has proved that the legal profession in India is a den of mediocrity encouraged by the BCI. They set a kids paper and made most people pass. With plans to decentralise the exam it will get worse. We will never have a tough bar exam like in the US so I guess the BCI migh as well scrap it. The exam will onyl be useful if it helps in liberalisation i.e. if foreign lawyers are allowed to give it. Otherwise it will be an excuse for some shady coaching centres to make money.
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 03:09
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Just a clarification. Neither BCI nor Rainmaker has come up with any answer key till date. The one that is being referred to here is one that has been produced by the enterprising BarHacker team. There too, the disclaimer had been given of it not being an authorized version, although I guess it was at least 94% accurate, given that a senior of mine who's part of the BarHacker team and had given the exam has scored 94%. I agree with the concern about those who have failed to clear the exam. If proper reform is to be introduced, perhaps BCI can monitor the pass percentages from individual law colleges over a couple of years and intervene in the affairs of those who perform poorly in a consistent manner?
lex suprema 20 Mar 2011, 03:31
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Mr. S Saha ur right in saying that..i m not militating against ur view point and opinion.......but wot am saying is .....minority oppression sh not be encouraged and likewise majority rule.... Count on India's politico--socio---eco---aspect and then speak brother....
Today u leave them saying that they r rubbish ...tomorrow u see the in the shape of 'Rebels with arms'.
All r not born with the merit and may be it is also correct that in a open book exam like this they should hv made it....

But then ...just it is a open book exam and 100 marks multi opt question cant be the decisive factor of merit or who will shine in profession or not....
So i do not support the exhibition of marks which my fellow brothers r making here...when they know that what kind of atmosphere was there in the exam center .....
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 03:35
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dear no 41
if the standards of the profession have come down then seniors like you are more responsible and it is people like you who need to take such exams and prove your worthiness for the profession not the batch of pass outs of 2010
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 03:48
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thanx kian.......4..providing every current information to all frustated advocates...happy holi.
kianganz 20 Mar 2011, 03:50
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#45, LegalPoet @46, #47, #51, thanks for your support and @51 thank you for the dedication but I really think the credit should go to whoever sat the exam! :-)

In any case, #41 I am sorry that you feel this way. I do respectfully disagree and feel we have tried to be balanced in coverage, despite many AIBE hiccups, problems and setbacks. Any commentary (usually only in the newsletter and features) I feel has been a mix of positive and sometimes critical but please feel free to point out instances where you disagree. We have also published several articles in favour of legal reform.

On the headline, we had very quickly changed it to read "6,300 fail/to retake" so Chennai is included. That said, the number is not far off total fails to start with: at least 22,267 candidates registered, of those 1,600 will re-take in Chennai and 29% of the remainder is 5,993.

The reason the number was in the headline was because 6,000+ seems like a surprisingly large number of 2010 graduates for what was expected to be a fairly easy exam. We are still trying to find out how many of those 6,000 never sat the exam.

Best wishes
Kian
lex suprema 20 Mar 2011, 03:54
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kian from my side......u deserve a bigg HUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG....... thanx brother for all u hv done for us......and dont think that its over....more news r going to reach u soon.....
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 03:57
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S Saha ....i think u hv learn t the law too much...

Lex is v right ..........i support u lex......
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 04:57
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To M chakraborty

no sir..I have not learnt law too much..that's why I have appeared in the AIBE so that while preparing for itself I could learn many things & remove my ignorances..if this is your thinking I can't help..coz I have no control over one's thinking..but what I have learnt in the past few months that, to some extent the conducting of AIBE as per the vision statement of BCI was not wrong at all..LET THE LEGAL REFORM BEGIN FROM SOMEWHERE BROTHER..now if u think u can suggest BCI how to start the legal reform u r welcome to send them suggestions as u like..me & my some batchmates did this(sending suggestion for legal reform to BCI) while we left our college..we sent the suggestions through the state bar council secretary..there r many ways to redress your grievances..just take recourse of them & don't make lame defenses like "i think u hv learn t the law too much..."...this is not lawyer-hood.
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 07:42
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@41, how does kian's nationality matter more than the quality of his work? we have this website and the wonderful work that kian has done before our eyes to make a judgment on him. we don't need recommendations from a self proclaimed old guard of the profession.

i believe bar exam is a must considering some people claiming to be practicing advocates display an acute lack of logic and common sense
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 07:44
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i saw someone's comment likening celebration of merit to majoritarianism, etc... wat stretch of imagination... a person who is not good enough to clear the bar exam is not good enough to practice before a court of law. that is the end of the story. jargon does not negate the need for quality. if litigants spend time and money, they should be provided quality services
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 08:36
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@41 ..ur views are stupid beyond words..the work of media is to report things and that's what kian and legally india its doing and if you feel this is the reform out country needed it is not..the standard of the paper and making it open book its not the bringing of reform its a monopoly of a certain individual to extract money..if they ready wanted a reform they could have made aproper strategy..even non law graduate can read the books and pass..is this what u call reform

And if you do not subscribe to the views battle it out rather than quitting ..shame
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 14:52
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please take off otherwise next gen will not go law
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 15:59
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Curious to know how many of the national law school students failed to clear. Can BCI or Rainmaker reveal these statistics.
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 17:52
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6000 seems a fairly large number. According to me clearing this exam was in fact made a lot easier, a majority of answers in second part were all present in the questions. That being said I believe the answer to around 20 marks were provided right in the questions themselves. I may not be really for the bar exam. But I still believe clearing this paper with a 40 was fairly straightforward.

While I do tend to sympathise with the lawyers who did not clear, for what so ever the reason maybe, it is a fact that we have disregarded an imperative part of the equation. The general public to whome justice could be denied because someone lawyers were not upto a mark.

I do belive that AIBE was not a litmus test for how competant or incompetant a lawyer is. However the important of have a basic filter is what I see now after noticing that around 29% people did not clear.

We do complain about those who lost their right to a livelihood. Fact does I can put myself in the shoes of a person who cannot afford a great lawyer. What if I end up briefing one that does not know the basics?

I may end up inviting a lot of flack for this, but the fact remains that this paper was pleasantly not that difficult to clear. Scoring high marks was not that straightforward either. There were a lot of questions that challenged your powers of reasoning as well as your powers of comprehension of the questions. Even so, 90+ of the answers were directly from the text.

I know it may not be fair. But it's not just the lawyers that are affected by this bar exam. It is the general public too. That being said personally I did not believe that this bar exam was difficult to clear. However for people who could not appear for genuine reasons, I believe that the BCI, in case the constitutional validity of this exam is upheld, should increase the frequency of this exam to a quarterly duration or so as not to waste the time of the students who graduate or fail the AIBE.
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 18:43
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A suggestion for GS,

If you want the hardwork to not go waste,make sure that the bar exam is followed with strict enforcement of the no bar- no practice rule. Otherwise the purpose of the exam will be lost.
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 19:16
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i failed coz i cudnt prepare... Please scrap the exams
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 20:47
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thou the decision to declare the marks of each candidate was decided in the end.. just like the exam was decided to be conducted without intimidating us in advance, there is no advantage of this examination for the successful candidates who appeared, and cleared the exam!

the BCI announced it to be of international standards.
In the UK or US, a candidate who clears the exam.. gets a TITLE! of a barrister or an attorney....
WHAT DID WE GET OUT OF THIS EXAM??
It was a big success for the BCI, for the Attorney General... and what abt the candidates who successfully cleared it.
this exam was supposedly for the young lawyers and to judge their intellectual standards!
My only question here is, we wr the ones who had to wait for 7 long months to ethically practice law, and in the end the credit is given to the BCI who conducted the exam without giving us any advantage of the same!
Thank You!
robin sin 20 Mar 2011, 21:21
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@41............brother good things to be apriciated..seems like u r paid off well to fight a legal battle against kian..lol
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 22:01
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@ 70 - Agree with you totally. The way in which the idea was implemented was definitely unjust and un warranted. But that would not mean the idea itself is bad.


This is India after all. Where we have amazing schemes drawn up failing miserably just because of bad implementation.
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 22:46
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let it be next time a close book exams that will be a real test!!
Anonymous guest 20 Mar 2011, 22:52
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whatever be the pros and cons of this exam one fact can never be denied.. all students who got rank in our college have got scores of 50-60 range in AIBE whereas a few average students have got 80+.. so we can conclude that this exam really brings out students who has sound knowledge of law and its application than from those who memorize large large texts.. ratta marke padke kya fayda
Jyoti 21 Mar 2011, 01:43
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Judging by the reaction on this forum, the bar exam has channelled energies into the pursuit of many trivial pursuits. Look at this -

- lawyers wanting titles as a result of clearing the exam

- lawyers wanting recognition and fame for passing what was essentially a mildly competitive exam (if competitive at all)

- lawyers blissfully content with scores of 90 and above, as though that in itself in an end

- those that clear it proclaiming it to be a feather in their caps while those that did not have to, playing down the importance.

My view is that after all the anticipation and the noise, the exam and the way it was conducted is a miserable reflection on the bar council and all those that were involved - whether it be Rainmaker, the judges, or even those sitting for it.

- The standard was notoriously low and even a 4th year law student should be expected to clear this

- The pass rate was too high for this to be genuinely competitive. All those who have been "eliminated" are complete laggards who should never have gotten admission to a law course in the first place

- Those that have passed the exam would do well to suspend all thoughts about it at once for it is doubtful whether they stand anything to gain from it

- The BCI should really focus on improving legal education in many lesser known colleges and universities where classes (and classrooms) don't exist, faculty is dismal and infrastructure missing. By not doing this, students are being driven into the arms of private courses (such as Jindal Law School), foreign varsities and even experiments by engineering colleges (such as the IITs).
lex suprema 21 Mar 2011, 03:16
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#75 THAT WAS SENSIBLE ENOUGH
Anonymous guest 21 Mar 2011, 04:54
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To,
Legallyindia and kiran

I wholeheartedly thank Legallyindia for all information that they gave about AIBE both before and after the exam. Legallyindia also helped me and guided me in my preparation. Good going Legallyindia.

I also personally thank Kiran for the authentic and timely information that he gave us.

Sandeep katti
Anonymous guest 21 Mar 2011, 05:39
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I would still like if the matter is heard and decided on merit expeditiously by the Supreme Court, even though i have successfully passed it with good marks !
Anonymous guest 21 Mar 2011, 08:00
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#78 Mr. 78 u didnt need to state that " even i have successfully passed it with good marks" as marks r not at all to the slightest extent decisive factor as to whether ur a good lawyer or whether u will be a good lawyer? becoz this was the purpose of exam to check whether we who were in called the 'provisional advocates' r good enough to get into the field of "full fledged advocates"
Anonymous guest 21 Mar 2011, 08:09
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1) plz i do not need ny suggestion from u asto what i sh hv done or shouldnt have done as ur suggestions hv one destiny ...that is waste papers basket which probably BCI has also resorted to scanning it by its merit...
2) U ssaid u have learnt many things while preparing for AIBE ..this means in ur 5/3 yrs law course u havent studied well.....so people lk u definitely need AIBE. and wot a way to gv exam....a open book+ group discussion....then u mk a exhibition of marks.....
3) though u hv rt to hold ur view and even to hold that AIBE was justified to some extent....
Anonymous guest 21 Mar 2011, 15:23
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Those who have failed should not get another chance...losers
Anonymous guest 21 Mar 2011, 18:06
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TO #80

Regarding ur 1st point I have nothing to say.It is entirely your discretionary jurisdiction.but if u only can blame somebody for the whole day & do nothing by urself then may God help u.

Regarding 2nd point I would say that no one can say that I have learnt law.legal profession is a continuous process of learning.interpretations change everyday.whether I have studied well in last 5 yrs that time will say. but as far as I know I have learnt nothing.coz law is changing everyday.interpretations are changing everyday.even supreme court judges refer sections or articles which they might have read million times in their career.so no one can say I have learnt law.LAW IS DYNAMIC.and remember in every law book be it a student edition or practitioners edition or aibe modules you will learn at least something new which u did not know or might hv wrongly understood.

Regarding pattern of exam I would say that perhaps u r not accustomed to open book exam.u r expert in only close book,memory based & writing-oriented exams.in many foreign countries exams are held in open book format.many companies conduct their recruitment test through open book exams.the purpose is to test the application of mind to a given problem rather than to traditional "commit & vomit".though AIBE questions were fairly easy to be an open book exam.
Anonymous guest 21 Mar 2011, 23:17
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Dear Mr. Kian,

Do you have any idea when are they (BCI) going to give the certificates for the passed candidates.

Exam episode is over, distribution of certificates also if they (BCI) complete as early as possible we will be happy.

Please place some news regarding certificates.

What about the failed candidates when are they going to announce the appl. date and exam date.

Thanks.
Anonymous guest 22 Mar 2011, 03:56
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Kian, the quality of posts needs to be moderated a lot more - such a lot of noise; wading through it is such a waste of time.
Anonymous guest 22 Mar 2011, 05:39
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Hi Kian,
can u pls post this in ur site?? Hall Tickets are available for download to Lawyers who are taking their AIBE on 27th of this month.
Link:- http://www.barcouncilofindia.org/bci-admitcard-download/

They will have to enter their AIBE Roll number to downlaod the Hall Ticket. There is Change of venue this time...
Anonymous guest 22 Mar 2011, 14:02
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# Mr. 84 u do not lk certain posts ..u may not read them.....
Anonymous guest 22 Mar 2011, 16:57
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what about sc ?
Anonymous guest 22 Mar 2011, 18:20
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I feel that there should be some sort of exam for the advocates who have registered themselves previous to us.A mojority of advocates do require to brush up their knowledge and competence to cpoe up with the present day challenges.
Anonymous guest 22 Mar 2011, 18:38
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agree with #88. at least there shud be some sort of refresher course for previously enrolled advocates if not an exam like AIBE.
Anonymous guest 22 Mar 2011, 21:20
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what about gress amrks those who gets mark of 38-39
Anonymous guest 22 Mar 2011, 23:11
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The BCI website is refusing to show results anymore, with the results page also giving admit cards. :sad:
Anonymous guest 23 Mar 2011, 00:16
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Dear Kian, would it be possible for you to provide a comparison of aibe results of students from the major colleges?
lex suprema 23 Mar 2011, 00:24
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To s saha i agree with you...there should be smth like that ....

to 392 brother plz get over this result chapter ....forget this marks and concentrate on practicing..... sorry for giving u advice without being asked.....
Anonymous guest 23 Mar 2011, 04:27
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#93 is right. marks never mattered in the results. what mattered was passing. now what is the sense in playing "extraaaa innings" over results?? it was not a competitive exam.
scarecrow 23 Mar 2011, 09:50
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This thread is really depressing, people stop fighting like kids!!!
Anonymous guest 23 Mar 2011, 21:36
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did u believe that aibe filter talented persons i did not think becoz even who have no minimum knowledge r passed in exam. this is apply for some persons only not for all
Anonymous guest 23 Mar 2011, 21:44
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this exam seems to me as time pass there no serious in exam hall mass copying occurs in many places. it is open book exam r open coping exam?talented persons also passed exam
Anonymous guest 23 Mar 2011, 23:16
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IF BAR COUNCIL WANTS TO REFORM LEGAL EDUCATION IT MUST INTRODUCE ENGLISH IN COURTS AS WELL AS IN COLLEGES SO THE DUFFER LAWYERS WHO DOES NOT KNOW THE ABC OF ENGLISH AS WELL AS LAW COULD BE ELIMINATED
Anonymous guest 24 Mar 2011, 00:42
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I got 71.
I m happy with score
lex suprema 24 Mar 2011, 03:20
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#99 u should have posted ur picture so that evry1 of us could have identified u....u r so talented sir...
Anonymous guest 24 Mar 2011, 05:41
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very pathetic thinking #98.
Anonymous guest 24 Mar 2011, 05:43
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congrates #99. but everyone except you is happy coz AIBE is over.
Anonymous guest 24 Mar 2011, 05:53
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@ #92

brother, go & start practicing..AIBE is over..u must hv passed..use ur brain for some useful job.
Anonymous guest 24 Mar 2011, 06:09
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To #90

this will be a deterrent for those who think AIBE is bogus & will appear in AIBE 2.
Anonymous guest 24 Mar 2011, 06:11
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To #89

mr. saha, good thought..but who will put his hand into the hive of bees??
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 02:13
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RESPECT SIR

WE ARE GREAT BECAUSE WE ARE DOING RIGHT TO PEOPLE ACCORDING TO LAW IN INDIA THAN WHY WE ARE RIGHT THE EXAM OF BCI

THANKING YOU SIR

YOUR'S TRULY
STUDENT
Asok Kumar 10 Sept 2017, 13:40
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I of opinion that the AIBE itself is a stupidity and nonsense. An advocate is never expected to appear before the court with knowledge acquired by heart. He has to be well-equipped with awareness of Law relating to the case in his hand. He has right to take as much law books as he can to the court. An advocate has already passed his Law graduation after appearing for written examination as well as oral examinations in various disciplines, and he has free to choose which zone and area he should concentrate during his practice ie civil or criminal etc. He acquires more knowledge by his practice not by appearing for examinations conducted by Bar Council of India. Coming to other professional classes like medical, Engineering and teaching, it would sound good, but never a legal profession. Not only that the success of an advocate depends on his wit and wisdom, and without which his failure in the court is invited and he loses.Is he expected to bear in mind all the knowledge he acquired by preparing for an AIBE through out and till the end of his career.But he never forgets what he received by practice. A doctor or Engineer may not be able to carry any books during his profession, for them a test of knowledge will be desirable, that too a frequent one. The heavy fees collected from candidates itself is evident for the purpose of the examination , and points to fund raising.