Breaking: NUJS VC Ishwara Bhat has resigned, faced with determined student protests • CNLU limbo continues

PI Bhat is out, in massive and unlikely victory for NUJS students
PI Bhat is out, in massive and unlikely victory for NUJS students

NUJS Kolkata vice chancellor Prof Ishwara Bhat, who had been offered the same job at CNLU Patna, has resigned today, after the students’ ultimatum calling for his resignation expired at 9am today.

In his resignation letter, Bhat cites “health and family reasons” for his resignation, which will take effect from 7 April 2018.

His resignation and the student protests follow NUJS students having unearthed the long-buried and long-overdue statutory review commission report of NUJS, which contained scathing criticism of NUJS’ decline under Bhat’s administration.

The Student Juridical Association (SJA) had called for a “passive” protest, which they said would not jeopardise their academic careers or the right to work of any faculty members, while students also started a Facebook page including memes and videos of their protest.

Final day of protests crescendos

NUJS students were seen chanting slogans of “Ishwara Bhat go away” in English and “Ishwara Bhat Jaldi Hat” (Ishwara Bhat, move out fast) in Hindi while sitting out at the campus gates flashing colourful protest posters, after protests ramped up today as the ultimatum had expired in the morning, according to live footage on the Facebook page “NUJS Speaks”.

Presumably prepared to continue the protest until Bhat’s resignation, they titled the live footage of the protest as “Day Zero”.

One faculty member was seen addressing the protesting students in footage recorded five hours ago, and telling them their protest “is going to harm the university” and that “the email [the SJA] sent yesterday was uncouth and every such communication you write is going to harm the interest of the university much more than any of us and incompetence of any of us”, before he informed the audience that Bhat had tendered his resignation before the executive council.

Students pressed the faculty member for a written assurance of the fact of Bhat’s resignation, in response to which the faculty member insisted that the protesters were “mistaken” that they were protecting the interest of the university “by blocking the way, not allowing us to carry on with our work”, and that they “must give everyone a way out”.

To which the students shouted back slogans of “Band Karo ye saajedari ab toh le lo zimmedari” (Stop colluding and take responsibility now at least) in Hindi.

Ghosts of future past, in Cal and Patna

Of course, with Bhat’s resignation, NUJS will face the challenge of finding a new vice chancellor (VC), and as this administrative law exam question at NLSIU Bangalore rightly pointed out (quoting our earlier report), VC talent is thin on the ground.

CNLU Patna, meanwhile will be facing a similar problem. The school received an acting VC, retired Justice Mridula Mishra, after Bhat’s appointment had hung in limbo after CNLU students’ protests, while former similarly unpopular VC A Lakshminath had left the campus on 24 March.

Muted student protests in Patna are understood to be continuing, as CNLU’s chancellor has not given an official position on whether Bhat’s appointment as VC will be stayed or not.

According to student sources, the chancellor has refused to give an official statement on any of the protesting students’ demands while they were continuing with the administrative lockdown, so the students have decided to wait before ramping up the protests until the second week of April. Students have also demanded the constitution of its four-year overdue statutory university review commission.

Video of students’ victory announcement and celebrations

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Video of protests

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Protests unfoisted (in slow mo)

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Comments

Mohanlal 28 Mar 2018, 10:47
+24 -1
Well deserved victory to all Noojies!
Guest 28 Mar 2018, 18:46
+32 -21
Refusing faculty to enter into the University premises, making them sit under the sun, shouting at them every time any of them tried to speak to you. Is that how you win?

Hounding down a man to his home and intimidating him into signing a resignation. Is that how you win?

Publicly defaming a man without ever laying down the particulars of the sexual harassment claims against him. Is that how you win?

The way the NUJS student body behaves, they will be after the new VC's head from the first day of his tenure. That's just how the students are. They cry for competence, but when they get competent teachers like KR, they complain about the teacher being after their lives. And of course, when a teacher is lax, the students will laugh at the teacher for being a fool.

When you have eyes designed to see problems only in others and not in you, no one is ever going to make you happy.
Hold on mate 29 Mar 2018, 07:57
+9 -8
He was certainly not hounded to his house as is implied. A group of teachers along with a few student body reps went to get his formal resignation AFTER he communicated via phone that he was going to resign. And it seems you have not properly read what was said nor do you have sufficient knowledge regarding the sexual harassment situation - no one is accusing him of sexual harassment.What is accused is that he did nothing in response to allegations of sexual harassment. One of his employees has on multiple occasions acted in a highly creepy manner towards female students.The same chap apparently has also had access to CCTV records. After multiple complaints against this guy sat in limbo, the complainants have now stopped pursuing out of fear that this creep would retaliate. Maybe the honourable Mr.Bhat is a paragon in his personal conduct , I would not know. But fact of the matter is when such characters are working right under him and nothing is done, it really doesn't look good.That's not even going into the fact that female students don't feel safe in NUJS anymore , not least because despite increasing number of CCTVS on campus, there have been three separate instances in NUJS of shady characters breaking in and in two of these instances , indecently exposing themselves to students. Bhat has done nothing to increase the well being of people on campus who literally are not safe in their own home.The very least he could have done was to show that he cared. Al that was done was that matters were hushed up and he gave empty assurances , which werre just repeated on the next instance something happened.
I did hold on 29 Mar 2018, 10:13
+10 -5
I'll reply to your comments sequentially:

1. Hounded to his home - When you shout and cry for a man to be forcibly kicked out of an institution along the lines of "Ishwara Bhat, jaldi hat", what do you do? You force him to remain in any safe place he can find which includes his home. Then you call him repeatedly with only one demand - "you resign". There is no negotiation, the only thing you want is his head. Then even after you get the resignation, you don't let the man live in peace. You go down to his home and get a formal resignation face to face from a man who already must be broken because of the hatred you have unleashed against him. I don't see anything of honour in that.

2. Allegations of sexual harassment- You can't jump to conclusions and say that allegations are fact. Do you know the repercussions if an innocent man is discharged of his duties just because there were allegations? Would you want to have it on your conscience to ruin an innocent man's career and life? What I heard from the faculty was that the allegations were not found to be substantial in at least one case. You cannot say that the 'creep ' you don't like is conclusively guilty based just on some of your friend's opinions.

3. On girls feeling unsafe on campus - What exactly could have Bhat done? You have guards and railings and barbed wire protecting you from the outside world. I don't know what more security measures can be added to what is already in place. You can't pin responsibility on a person for incidents which have nothing to do with him just because you think he is a suitable scapegoat.
hold on mate 29 Mar 2018, 10:28
+1 -2
We'll have to agree to disagree on points 1 and 3. As far as point 2 is concerned, it is less of " opinions of friends " rather than seeing the kind of trauma that was unleashed. Maybe in one case the guy was indeed innocent. To be quite frank I have a great deal of difficulty in believing that there is no substance in an accusation when the victim who is a reliable person re-traumatises themselves by bringing up an incident, causes a great deal of stress to thenselves for no good reason - and for what ? It may be that I am biased, I won't deny it. Maybe I am not being objective , that's entirely possible.But the kind of emotional distress I saw does not come out of nowhere.Well have to agree to disagree.At least your points are civilly and reasonably presented - unlike the rest of this section.
Faculty 29 Mar 2018, 11:00
+19 -2
Obviously your accounts (second-hand as they seem by your own admission) leave a lot to be desired in terms of facts. PIB refused to meet the students from at least 2 days before the protest on Wednesday. He refused to engage with them throughout regarding the multiple accusations leveled against him. He refused to put up same allegations before the EC so that they could take a call on it (him being the EC Chairperson meant only he could have done that). What kind of an institutional head does not even come down to meet the students when he knows that because of him, the entire university has arrived at a standstill? A person totally bereft of moral courage, that's who. Students were peacefully protesting during Monday and Tuesday, why couldn't he have come and at least addressed those situations? He had been given multiple choices to leave with his dignity intact, but he chose to cling to his post. Even if a person is not personally guilty, what good can he achieve by clinging on to the VC's seat when all the students are making it clear that they do not trust him? Only a shameless person could have done that. As for his phone call stating he wished to resign, don't make me laugh! if he's a person whose word could be trusted, then this situation wouldn't have been arrived at to begin with. He's the sort of person who has been known to go back on his word hundreds of times in the past few years. If you are objecting to students going to his house, why didn't the so-called responsible senior faculty members do that on their own beforehand? And of course there was no negotiation, the students did not want anything that he could have given them anyway and what they want for the institution he cannot and does not want to give. Hatred is a big word, but try asking to yourself why would the students hate him? Are they naturally hateful? Do they hate every authority figure? No, they don't. Even a strict person would not be hated if he shows to the students that he is just and cares for them and genuinely wishes for their well-being. PIB has failed to do any of that in the past years (special repeats or attendance relaxations don't count). Hence the call for ousting him.
As for the allegations of harassment, nobody is saying those are facts, but to determine how much is fact and how much isn't, you need to have prompt investigations and inquiry. That's what he never did. Hundreds of discipline related problems, many violence related matters, harassment issues remain unaddressed under his reign and even those on which inquires start, they drag on for ever and documents keep getting mysteriously misplaced or lost.
As for the safety issue, again, don't make me laugh. There have been regular complaints for the past 5 years at least about the inefficiency and downright negligence and insensitivity of the guard agency currently employed (to say nothing of lack of training or effectiveness of those people). He refused to do anything to improve upon it, refused to train those people or get better ones. Safety and fire audits of the campus have never been carried out for God knows how long. I have seen girl students come crying to him after getting molested or harassed by outsiders illegally present inside campus and all he did was provide empty reassurances over and over again and not do a single thing about these issues, rather choosing to focus on installing CCTVs inside classrooms! It broke my heart to see those students keep hoping that what happened with them would at least make the authorities take cognisance of the problem and try to address it to the best of their ability, and see their hopes dashed again and again.
So you see, the problem is not a single one, but the collective picture. Is PIB responsible for everything that's wrong now? No. Could he have done something to improve most of them? Yes. Could he have shown empathy to the students and assure them effectively that he wants to find solutions to those problems working together with them? Definitely. Did he do any of that? Hell, no! Of course faculty members wish the students did not have to do this. Of course they are not happy they were denied entry into the campus. But could they have honestly suggested a better/effective waytat hasn't been tried already? No. Did they ever present a united front against the inefficiencies and atrocities and plain lackadaisical nature of this regime? They didn't, barring one or two lone voices of protest. Rather, many of them chose to remain indifferent, and even worse, complicit. So, don't you dare presume all faculty members are after students' heads for their actions. Some may have their own agenda, who doesn't? But there are also those who wish things would not have escalated to this, but are still proud of the students for at least standing up for their rights. It's not only law that's taught here, but justice. The motto of the University is Yuktiheena Vicharetu Dharmahnih Prajayate (Judgement devoid of logic destroys Dharma). And like it or not, the past 6 years have been perfect examples of such judgement, strangulating the Dharma out of this institution slowly but surely. Something had to give. So it has. Hopefully, this is not the end, but only the beginning of the students demanding to have their basic rights and at least some of the lofty promises made to them and their families on Orientation Day.
Numb 30 Mar 2018, 02:10
+3 -0
Are you out of your senses?
What could the VC have if girls in his campus are feeling unsafe? If there are CCTV cameras the first thing Mr. Bhat should have done is personally investigated into the matter with some senior faculty members. His action should have been prompt and swift. As a neutral reader I feel you are making this issue very trivial because of your bias for Mr. Bhat. It is the duty of the VC to ensure the mental and physical well being of his students. Such issues require promopt and transparent actions. Was that done? If yes please tell me what? Also you speqk of the rights of the accused. But what about the rights of the vicitim? Even if just an allegation what would have happened if they had gone to the cops. In such cases law itself alliws police to detain individuals and treats such complaints very seriously. But you seem to not understand the gravity of the complaint.
V 30 Mar 2018, 18:24
+2 -1
Dear Guest,
I do not know if you are an individual connected with the ground realities of NUJS or not. I am, so I shall attempt to paint as contextually accurate and precise a picture as I can about this.

The students sat at the gate and the teacher you claim to be competent like KR walked right through without a single student stopping him. Yes, students chanted when he did but there was no degree of physical restraint just a moral culpability the students wished to accrue upon the teachers for their complicity in this system.

The result of that was that senior faculty members who till then had explicitly stated that they don't support the strike and would continue to take classes, helped engage with the Vice chancellor.

In the meanwhile, all the couches were bought out, umbrellas were set up and regular refreshments and food was given to the faculty members who were treated with utmost respect except for a few instances of engagement with the student body as a whole, which if you scream at a crowd then it will scream back at you.

With regards to the trip to the Vice Chancellors house, as stated before sufficient notice was provided along with many opportunities for constructive engagement which the Vice Chancellor failed in doing. It wasn't the students who randomly upped and gheraoed his house. It was in fact a measure suggested by teachers who drove the students in their car there and who entered the house first while the students waited outside.

I was not present at the house but from the words of one faculty member and one student who was present there, at no point was there any coercion or misbehaviour.

With regards to defamation, not a single news media outlet or any petition has ever raised grounds of personal events of sexual harassment or corruption. The charge or issue has always been consistent, inefficiency, lack of capability and willingness and active inertia leading to the decline of the university. The Vice Chancellor has never sexually harassed anyone.

He does however directly employ guards who have unfetterred access to the CCTV footage which they use to slut shame girls and make comments about their clothing with implications that they shall be raped because of that.

But no one has ever held him liable for the actions of guards. no, the liability arises from the fact that after this the faculty after inputs drafted a CCTV policy which the vice chancellor did not implement for over 6 months. Guest, the charge is that academic reforms passed by the student body and the faculty have not been implemented by the vice chancellor for four years.

The charge is that after it was proved that a particular contractor had helped the previous registrar embezzle money from the University, the vice Chancellor still employed said contractor for works in the University. The charge is that the ICC of this college rejected an application on flimsy jurisdictional grounds and the appeal has been sitting in the Vice Chancellors office for 8 months now.

The charge is that more than 24 faculty members of repute have left tis university since he has joined and he has not taken active steps to replace them with competent faculty which leaves NUJS with a teacher student ratio of 1:22 which is the worst in the top 5 law schools across India. The charge, my dear guest is that why are the university reports which outline productivity of the research centres in the university plagiarised for the last 3 years? Why are these centres defunct without an ounce of research from 7 out of 8 of them.

With regards to competent teacher, you must recognise that there is a difference between competent and draconion. KR falls into the latter category. Sandy B falls into the former category as does SB or LD and you will never hear a complaint even with regards to KR and with all of the aforementioned faculty with regards to their teaching style or classes. The complaints lie from their membership in the UGC where they have been inconsiderate, bureaucratic and downright inhuman.

Where the convener of the MCS which is one of the most active societies in the college which has done great work for this Universities reputation has to approach KR as the MCS faculty advisor, a member of the UGC and the personal advisor to the appellate authority (VC) for the same application or where the UGC rejects the application of a student for compensatory attendance on grounds that the death of his father is not enough or where 16 students from reserved categories are unable to get their scholarship to continue their education because of administrative neglect, then you will hear complaints.

With regards to incompetent teachers, the students here amongst the best and brightest and they need to be challenged. If they are not then they will mock the teacher. That is a fault on the teacher.

Everything stated here is substantiated by the Review Commission report, the two no confidence motions of the student body and multiple petitions circulated by the SJA. Please feel free to read them.

If you still wish to debate or discuss and are not convinced then I am forever ready.
In anticipation,
V

"[i]Educate, Agitate, Liberate[/i]"
NO PIB 28 Mar 2018, 10:58
+15 -9
Ishwara cites health and family reasons in support of his resignation. I am sure that his health condition would not improve in any way in Patna. Dont come to Patna PIB.

Ironically, he lies here as well.
Lalu prasad yadav 28 Mar 2018, 11:00
+7 -17
NUJS will see the biggest party tonight, just dont make the neighbours call the cops.
Kaka 28 Mar 2018, 11:03
+7 -8
While the students now rejoice, those of us who have seen the university for far longer, will hold our breath in anxious anticipation to see if someone worse than Bhat gets appointed. Students unfortunately have no control over that. I also sincerely hope this will not affect the upcoming recruitment season. We can now only hope for the best.
Kaka 28 Mar 2018, 11:05
+6 -15
Also very clearly nujs students acted out of shame after cnlu reject bhat. Nobody wants a vc who got rejected once!
FYI 28 Mar 2018, 11:05
+15 -47
People with vested interests have hounded Prof. Bhat who initiated various developmental projects and worked for the benefit of students.

His only flaw was that he came from a humble background and was not sophisticated and suave like most NUJS students. Those students with vested interests and links to maoist organisations hounded him and forced him to resign.
Lalu prasad yadav 28 Mar 2018, 11:19
+12 -14
Arre.. ishawara bhatt? Even u come to legallyindia?
Guest 28 Mar 2018, 13:18
+8 -7
"Haha! I don't want to engage with a comment contrary to my views, so I will pass remarks to deride the speaker. I am so funny, lol!" - Lalu prasad yadav.
Lalu prasad yadav 28 Mar 2018, 13:31
+0 -10
Cool dude.. whatever.. u are correct.. now dont put another reply projecting what I think
Bezouda 28 Mar 2018, 14:10
+9 -12
Students are easy to influence. They didn't do this on their own, they were pushed and provided selective information. Now one has to wait and watch as to which camp wins the war to appoint the new VC.
Guest 28 Mar 2018, 17:26
+4 -0
Camps (internal to a university) don't have much of a say in the appointment of a VC. Camps (external to university, but internal to the NLU VC circle do).

Given PIB was Venkata Rao/Lakshminath camp, Faizan Mustafa/Jaiswal/Gurdip Singh camp might want to get someone in to bolster their numbers. However, Ranbir Singh/KDR will also make moves.
Alias 007 28 Mar 2018, 18:20
+2 -0
What a fantastic application of jurismetrics!!! But full detials are not there.
Guest 29 Mar 2018, 02:58
+3 -1
I explained 7 above; and I can try to explain 3 others and groups they belong to: Ranbir got the bloke at TNNLS appointed, while Faizan got the NLUJAA guy; and Vizag is headed by Laxminath as Chancellor (thus, safe to assume that VC will be in his pocket). That makes it one for each of them.

The likes of VK are hard to place (has flirted with both sides [Faizan/Ranbir]); and so are Rose Varghese and Poonam Saxena. The remaining 6/7 (whatever their number is these days!) are in my opinion insignificant in themselves. What camp they belong to remains to be seen.

Another interesting angle is that the HP person is from the 4th DU-->NLU VC. Remains to be seen if they (HP dude, Gurdip, Poonam and Rose) try to set up their own power center.

A 3-way power struggle is a lot better than a 2-way face-off.
Alias 007 29 Mar 2018, 05:03
+4 -0
OMG.....Hats off... Cambridge Analytica here too? Beware legally india!... Three Cheers!!!
Guest 28 Mar 2018, 17:22
+7 -1
Suave students with Maoist links? In the hyper-commoditized NLU circle? Where did neo-liberalism fail?
Pi 28 Mar 2018, 11:13
+7 -3
Now what?
Tarantino 28 Mar 2018, 12:32
+7 -5
[i]What now? Let me tell you what now. [...] You hear me talkin', hillbilly boy? I ain't through with you by a damn sight. [...]
[/i]

- Quote from Pulp Fiction , now to be used against [...] Mafia

[img]http://bucksandcorn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Pulp-Fiction_Ving-Rhames.jpg[/img]
kianganz 28 Mar 2018, 12:36
+9 -3
As much as I appreciated that movie reference, it alas required moderation since the irony in the comment would likely have been lost on some readers...
Tarantino 28 Mar 2018, 12:59
+8 -4
Then at least allow this Youtube link to the scene

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6zqu_9Sb7w[/youtube]
Alumni 28 Mar 2018, 11:40
+9 -1
Guys, job well done. Now, time to get back to what everyone's there for: being students again.
Yup! 29 Mar 2018, 08:19
+1 -0
The protest mood switched right back to the usual NUJS atmosphere really fast. Gave me a bit of whiplash lol
PIB 28 Mar 2018, 11:41
+6 -11
My best wishes for Prof. Bhat's future endeavours. I wish him well and good health.
Noojie 28 Mar 2018, 12:04
+9 -4
Family reason - The students will no longer allow me to do undue favors to my family and friends.

Health reason - I am terrible for the health of the institution.

This is as honest as Divine Posterior could get!
Heart 28 Mar 2018, 12:22
+8 -4
NLU VCs kicked out by student protests:

1) NALSAR: Veer Singh
2) NLU Ranchi: BC Nirmal
3) NLU Assam: Vijender Kumar
4) NLIU Bhopal: SS Singh
5) CNLU Patna: Bhat (prospective VC)
6) NUJS Calcutta: Bhat

Any guesses who's next?
Alias 216 28 Mar 2018, 17:55
+0 -0
No...No... do not include Vijender. He is still a VC.
Guest 29 Mar 2018, 03:02
+4 -0
He was the one who got kicked-up (from far-off Guwahati, to RSS heartland Nagpur).
PS: They got a huge chunk of cash recently.
Alias 007 29 Mar 2018, 05:24
+1 -0
Rather... the non-teaching staff was less supportive there.No fault of his.
Hnlu guest 30 Mar 2018, 12:30
+1 -0
The second one should be HNLU - M.K. Srivastava.
Hnlu guest 30 Mar 2018, 12:31
+1 -0
The second in terms of the timeline of the protests should be, HNLU - M.K. Srivastava
Guest 28 Mar 2018, 12:24
+7 -3
Legally India also kept up the pressure!
Metallica 28 Mar 2018, 12:55
+10 -4
Next steps for SJA:

1. Keep a a watch on the EC Meeting. See that Bhat doesn't try to say anything against the students and poison the meeting.

2. Demand for a public advertisement seeking a VC and selection through a transparent VC. Seniority should not be the defining requirement (e.g. stipulation of 10 years service in professor rank).

3. Reach out to influential and respected well-wishers of NUJS based in Calcutta, who can help --- e.g. Justice Ruma Pal, Senior Advocate Jayanta Mitra.

4. Start backchannel talks with possible future VCs. Some possible future candidates could be:

From India:
a) Manoj Sinha http://www.nujs.edu/faculty/mksinha-nujs.pdf
b) Sudhir Krishnaswamy http://azimpremjiuniversity.edu.in/SitePages/sudhir-krishnaswamy.aspx
c) VK Unni https://www.iimcal.ac.in/users/unniv

From abroad:
a) Shyam Balganesh https://www.law.upenn.edu/cf/faculty/sbalgane/
b) Deepa Badrinarayana https://www.chapman.edu/our-faculty/deepa-badrinarayana
c) Dev Gangjee https://www.law.ox.ac.uk/people/dev-gangjee
d) Surya Deva http://www6.cityu.edu.hk/slw/people/people_surya.html
e) Shubhankar Dam http://www.port.ac.uk/school-of-law/staff/professor-shubhankar-dam.html
f) Umakanth Varottil https://law.nus.edu.sg/about_us/faculty/staff/profileview.asp?UserID=lawuv
Alias 216 28 Mar 2018, 17:58
+9 -0
True researchers never want to be in a chair of administrator. They lose their shine... and also lose their utility to the institution.
Noojie 28 Mar 2018, 18:38
+2 -3
Add alumni in practice (firms, litigation, etc.) to the list of potential guest lecturers
Noojie 28 Mar 2018, 13:01
+0 -6
I am constantly refreshing this page to see a comment war. Guys, please start one. Kian, please do something to start one. I really really really want to see a comment war! Pretty please...
kianganz 28 Mar 2018, 13:13
+19 -15
It's obvious that NUJS is much worse than Nalsar, and a distant third to NLSIU.

You're welcome. :)

[img]https://media3.giphy.com/media/NipFetnQOuKhW/200.gif[/img]
Noojie 28 Mar 2018, 13:22
+5 -3
Thanks Kian. I'll bite. But Given what the NUJS students did today, I don't think that is a very credible assertion. In any case, I'll go grab pop corn.
kianganz 28 Mar 2018, 16:56
+2 -6
I'll also bite. Being more seriously, I think much of that will also depend on who NUJS' next VC will be...
Guest 28 Mar 2018, 17:24
+3 -1
The perception of NLS being no. 1 might have something to do with it being at least 5 years late in constituting it's own Review Commission. Venkat Rao has not been reviewed. If he is, the true state of affairs at NLS might emerge.
Guest 28 Mar 2018, 14:10
+9 -3
Kian I challenge you to do a proper law school ranking. NLSIU is not # 1.
U said it ! 28 Mar 2018, 16:37
+0 -9
"It's obvious that NUJS is much worse than Nalsar, and a distant third to NLSIU."

Implied
1. NLSIU
2. Nalsar
3. NUJS

True?
kianganz 28 Mar 2018, 16:53
+1 -3
[img]https://media0.giphy.com/media/1Q58uf47GO09y/200.gif[/img]
Bro 28 Mar 2018, 13:27
+4 -2
VC hoke CJ ka naam toh thik likha hota resignation letter mein. For your records its Dipak Misra not Deepak Misra. Terrible RAs I must say.
______ 28 Mar 2018, 14:08
+27 -25
NUJS students are a bunch of bullies whose primary quality is the inability to shut their mouth. In a contest between two sides, the group which doesn't have the decency to understand the other side's point of view will always have the advantage. Which is exactly what happened in this case."We are students, we are right. Accept our demands or we fuck with your life!", that is the motto. Not only in this instance but in every aspect of the functioning of the University.

You spend a day at NUJS and you see how students harass and heckle everybody who wouldn't let the students walk over themselves. Not just teachers, but mess workers and administrative staff as well. The project extensions, attendance demands, and bullying of 1st years in the name of 'positive interaction' are just some examples. The student body just blissfully indulges themselves in what they do by circle-jerking in a community which is deaf to the world outside its campus.

NUJS is a deplorable place not because of its administration but because of its students.
Pi 28 Mar 2018, 14:27
+1 -5
why not phone the UGC anti-ragging helpline, i hear that they are good
____ 28 Mar 2018, 14:51
+7 -2
And face the backlash of an entire community of butt-hurt seniors? Seniors who are going to make you cry if you hold a mirror to their face? Sure, sounds like a fun idea.
Noojie 28 Mar 2018, 18:26
+2 -0
You mean “bhatt-hurt”?
Noojies are thickheads 28 Mar 2018, 19:28
+2 -7
Oh my, you Noojies are the best at engaging in meaningful conversation, aren't you?
Sarkari Babu 28 Mar 2018, 18:20
+3 -1
BD Sir are you taking tomorrow's Legal History Class at 12:45 PM. We will indulge in healthy conversation with you.
____ 28 Mar 2018, 18:48
+2 -2
Son, BD Sir is not the only person who sees you lot for what you are.
Sarkari Babu 28 Mar 2018, 18:39
+1 -1
BD Sir if you don't mind could we have joint class tomorrow in the Section B . So that we could discuss about Prof. Bhat resignation and CCTV cameras. After that we will go for lunch in the mess.
To be fair 29 Mar 2018, 08:26
+1 -0
The positive interaction nonsense was a problem when I was a first year. But with more of us disapproving of such activity , it is at least comparatively much less ( not saying it is gone entirely , lets be real.) In my first year, ragging happened with impunity. Now , the last time a bunch of uppity second years that i saw attempting " positive interaction" our dear warden MPC gave them the tongue lashing of their lives. Quoting the man himself, "What id this nonsense?Are you aware of the rules and regulations?"
Numb 30 Mar 2018, 02:16
+1 -0
As far as Admin staff and Mess workers are concerned if you have ever thought that the food at NUJS was somewhat decent, please thank the student body. What we used to get earlier was utter garbage with mess staff indulging in a lot of false billing. Plus their attitude at time of serving was as if we are in a prison. All this changed because students at NUJS investigated the issue. The project extentions and attendance issues I agree are unjustified but you cannot question their behaviour. Positive interaction...if you see the ragging in other univs you will be glad you were in NUJS.
Bhaiya 30 Mar 2018, 04:33
+3 -0
@Numb: I agree with most of your points. Students will always seek extensions/attendance. It is up to the authorities to make a sensible rule and then stick to it without flinching, while at the same time retaining enough flexibility to ensure genuine problems are addressed without looking into the student's family background. If students get accustomed to the rule being followed by the authorities, they will plan accordingly, simple. However, I would like to differ on the ragging issue. Regardless of whether it is comparatively lesser than at other universities, it cannot simply be condoned. But there too, the victims have to be listened to by the admin and given proper redress. Students are young, they will make mistakes and then it has to be ensured that they are taught to take responsibilities for their action. If they could take all the decisions perfectly about their lives all by themselves without making a single mistake, then what would have been the need for admin in a university anyway?
LI Reader 30 Mar 2018, 16:05
+1 -3
Do you think it's a continuing inferiority complex of nujs students not being able to join NLS or Nalsar. Then realising the fact that even NLUD, NLUJ or even GNLU or Jindal are doing better than them. The way students hve treated the VC is a tragedy for any law school.
Bhaiya 30 Mar 2018, 16:37
+3 -1
Do you realise you are not making any sense? Insofar as recruitment/scholarship/higher studies etc. go, which are the main hallmarks of a university offering professional teaching courses, NUJS students are not behind any university in India at present. Can you kindly show me any evidence to the contrary? The only thing is, they have been doing it DESPITE the administrative obstacles and not BECAUSE OF administrative cooperation, as most of the other institutions you mentioned exhibit to varying extent. Which means with a proactive administration supporting them, they can easily go even further. As for tragedy, surely you have it the other way around. The way the VC has treated the students and the institution as a whole throughout his tenure is actually the far greater tragedy. This is simply following the Newtonian third law. Obviously, you intended to goad students to respond to your denigrating comments. Again, that makes you a troll and one lacking a shred of evidence to support your statement at that!
Guest 28 Mar 2018, 14:09
+2 -2
From ABP News

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIz8johDLTw[/youtube]
Guest 28 Mar 2018, 14:11
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Some pro-Bhat trolls are downvoting anti-Bhat comments and posting pro-Bhat comments here. Just wait, we will target the Mafia next.
Guest 28 Mar 2018, 15:14
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Pro-Bhat is a 'troll' and anti-Bhat is a 'comment'. Why don't you guys start an authoritarian student-run administration at college? Given your unbound ability to only hear your side of the story, you will do quite a good job.
Guest 28 Mar 2018, 15:31
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One of the interesting things was the dominance of Hindi slogans in the protest. I think the demographics of NUJS has changed a lot. It used to dominated by snooty, elite English-speaking kids ---- which probably explains why early examples of misgovernance, including in the first few years of Bhat's tenure, was tolerated.
Guest 28 Mar 2018, 15:47
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[img]https://i.imgflip.com/27awxz.jpg[/img]
???? 28 Mar 2018, 17:03
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The big mystery is who sent the "uncouth" email that the faculty member is complaining about...
Noojie 28 Mar 2018, 18:43
+4 -1
What was in that email? Kian, release it please
Guest 29 Mar 2018, 07:48
+2 -1
I can share with LI. It is being speculated that a member fo the Mafia sent the mail to defame students.
Pi 29 Mar 2018, 16:53
+0 -0
come on lets not be paranoid
Insider 29 Mar 2018, 08:18
+0 -3
It must be Noojiestar!
Kota 29 Mar 2018, 02:33
+6 -2
Just curious - what quota did Bhat come from?
Concerned 29 Mar 2018, 05:37
+5 -1
The battle is far from over. There is now going to be a lot of dirty politics and lobbying to get the VC post. The students must now insist on an eminent search committee, a public advertisement of the VC position, and disclosure of all applicants.

It is best to involve a few eminent people living in Bengal with goodwilll towards the institution and others with a past/current association with NUJS, rather than outsiders with no connection to NUJS trying to appoint their own people. These would be some good members of the search committee: Madhava Menon, MP Singh, Shamnad Basheer, Kaushik Basu, Justice Ruma Pal, Mr Jayanta Mitra, Mr Anindya Mitra, Mr Gopal Mookerjee etc.
Bhaiya 29 Mar 2018, 06:11
+9 -1
Without any disrespect meant to Justice Ruma Pal, she was a member of the Search Committee that selected PIB too for us 6.5 years back. Regardless of her goodwill towards the institution, I'd rather not see her back as part of the same committee.
Guest 29 Mar 2018, 10:33
+6 -0
Agree with you. In comparison, Mr Jayanta Mitra was a known critic of Bhat in the EC despite being very pleasant in public. I somehow think lawyers are more capable than judges when it comes to understanding admin matters!! Judges reside in ivory towers and lack a ground level understanding.
Alias 216 29 Mar 2018, 12:57
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That is why sometimes judges may not make better choices in selecting the VCs of NLUs or even a "member" of the search committee, even if they are acting in a fair and impartial manner.
Guest 29 Mar 2018, 05:00
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A newspaper is reporting that Bhat has been rejected as CNLU VC!! Excellent news!

https://www.patnadaily.com/index.php/news/13417-prof-ishwar-bhat-not-to-be-cnlu-vc-after-all.html
Guest 29 Mar 2018, 07:56
+5 -4
Rumours are going around of a protest at GNLU. The media will lap it up because of the closeness of the admin to the BJP and Modi.
BSDK 29 Mar 2018, 08:19
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Hahhahaha! LOL. Not a single GNLUite has the spine to even stage a simple protest at the preamble.
Fight the Mafia 29 Mar 2018, 08:03
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[img]http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1984/1101841015_400.jpg[/img]
Rewind 29 Mar 2018, 11:04
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This is how it happened. Rumour has it that MP Singh supported him as he did not want a competent VC who would overshadow his legacy. The same reason why Ranbir Singh supported Veer Singh at Nalsar.

[img]https://i.imgflip.com/27cxtq.jpg[/img]

[img]https://i.imgflip.com/27cxsy.jpg[/img]
Curious BEE 29 Mar 2018, 16:07
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Who were the members of the search committee- is a million Euro question?
Bhaiya 29 Mar 2018, 16:53
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Justice Ruma Pal and Prof. T.K. Oommen were there for sure. Can't remember the third name as of now.
Curious BEE 29 Mar 2018, 17:30
+2 -0
Prof. TK Oomen is a renowned Sociologist of JNU, Delhi...retired long long ago. But what does he know about law people?
Sarkari Babu 29 Mar 2018, 22:25
+1 -0
Search Committee comprising of Prof. T.K. Oommen, Justice AK Ganguly** & Justice Ruma Pal nominated the 3 candidates for the Post of Vice Chancellor of NUJS, Prof. P Ishwara Bhat, Prof N.S Gopalakrishnan & Prof K Vibhute.
Executive Council of deliberated upon the recommendation of Search Committee and they found out that Prof P Ishwara Bhat was more suitable than other two candidates. PIB joined NUJS on 2nd December 2011
Bhaiya 30 Mar 2018, 04:27
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Yes, that goes to show the effectiveness of such committees. Bibhute has already had harassment charges brought against him in his career (Kian, in case you need smoking gun evidence of that to publish it, see here: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/pune/Varsity-professor-shown-the-door-for-misconduct/articleshow/44410790.cms). And the lesser said about Bhat, the better. Only NSG was a good choice. The decision makers keep looking at candidates' academic records or CVs for positions like this, which makes no sense whatsoever. Of course, one needs to have appreciation of academics to make policy decisions for institutional excellence, and it doesn't hurt the institutional image either if the person already has a solid reputation. But at the end of the day, it is mostly an administrative position and one need not have published 100 articles to do it well! More importantly, one's admin record should be looked into carefully, ability to communicate, management skills, vision for the university, etc.
Guest 30 Mar 2018, 06:58
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And it's not as if Bhat has a great academic CV. He has published in very ordinary journals (all India journals) and his book in fundamental rights is mostly a descriptive summary fo cases rather than a fresh commentary.

He was mainly recommended by MP Singh and Justice Ganguly.
I Know 30 Mar 2018, 06:59
+2 -0
Vibhute served as Dean of the IIT law school and was a total disaster. Legally India and Bar & Bench were sent requests to dig up his past and cover it but neither website responded.
alumni 29 Mar 2018, 12:35
+1 -6
nujs students want to bully and dictate the administration to PIB which he refused to succumb to and hence the hooligans among nujs tried heckling and threatening him with intimidating scenes and activites which throws nujs students more into bad light than PIB himself. Sudhar jao nujs!! nujs can only be saved if it gets rid of weed pressed who call themselves noojies and are in connivance of some retard professors of nujs.
Truth of the matter 29 Mar 2018, 14:21
+4 -7
There is total wrong information and wrong reporting everywhere. Here is the complete 100% true facts given in 10 facts:

1. Faults of NUJS go back to previous Vice Chancellors. Prof Bhat is blamed for things he did not do.

2. Review commission gave many wrong findings like NUJS requiring 55 more faculties. No law school in India is having so many faculties.

3. If you see the students they are not making any sensible complaint. Regarding faculties leaving NUJS, truth is that some faculties left for Jindal Law School (where payment is 3 lakhs a month for assistant professor), 1 faculty left for Azim Premji University (which is also private college), 1 faculty left for South Asia University (where payment is on special scale) and some faculties left for NLU Delhi for family reasons. So how this can be fault of Prof Bhat?

4. It is total wrong information that alumnis are not teaching. NUJS has most alumnis teaching. In fact performance of alumnis in teaching has been worst and those from traditional colleges has been best.

5. Kindly note also that NUJS faculties have studied from UK, US, NLSIU etc. I challenge you to show which law school has better faculties.

6. During time of Prof Shamnad Basheer he was very unprofessional to do an open protest against Prof Bhat before media. Also I want to know record of Prof Shamnad ? Better not to say.

7. Regarding infrastructure, if state government does not give funding and fees has to be controlled then how will money come?

8. Students were blocking roads and shouting filthy slogans. Both boys and girls were doing protest wearing clothes like ganji and shorts and playing music as if it is disco or picnic. When many faculties tried to request and give reasons students behaved very rudely and shouted.

9. Under Prof Bhat placement record has been the best.

10. Final point is that the most important observation of the report is that students are indisciplined doing smoking, drinking drug abuse. Why this is not being discussed? Then when one day a serious crime happens you will say why there is no CCTV and stoppage of drinking and drugs?

This is the 200% crystal clear truth.
Pi 29 Mar 2018, 17:07
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1. pls specify what you think PIB is blamed for which can be laid at the feet of previous admin

2. the ratio has gone down to nadir, even if we say there is a vacancy for 30 its still a huge number

3. why couldnt he replace like with like

4. debatable

5. umm... nlud, nalsar, nls.....

6. SB could fire up the imagination of his students

7. this is where management prowess comes

8. moral policing... bad

9. In my time it was CRC who did the job, I guess now VCs do it, singlehandedly ;)

10. What I gather is that CCTVs are working only the ones in classrooms have been switched off. So there should be enough evidence.
Noojie 29 Mar 2018, 18:42
+5 -0
You do realize that Divine Posterior has resigned right? There’s no pay day coming your way for continuing to suck up.

It takes a very high degree of shamelessness to cling on to a position after 100% of the clientele you supposedly serve rejects you unanimously; not once, but thrice!
Guest 29 Mar 2018, 17:53
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[img]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/n_vfbr9ouIg/maxresdefault.jpg[/img]
Thoughts 30 Mar 2018, 15:04
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It is appalling to see some of the comments here that fail to understand that the General Body exhausted every single option before protesting. And none of us are apologetic for knowing that we deserve better, and demanding our due. So the Mysore Mafia should really help themselves and begin looking for jobs elsewhere - we all know how you got there in the first place!

Also - the conduct of certain Professors in this entire affair was deplorable to say the least. KR - the beacon of professionalism shoved a student and entered through the main gate. And was RIGHTFULLY shamed by hundreds of students. SB - the resident moralist, does not lose breath talking about labour protests and bandhs - but has no shame in actively attempting to sabotage the agitation.

On the other hand - LDG, SKG, SS - who are also great teachers sat in the sun for hours, also lent moral support. We are proud of them, and we see their courage to stand up for what's right.
RSC 30 Mar 2018, 16:41
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@Thoughts Do yourself and the world a favor and jump into a well or something

Both the people you mentioned (SB & KR) are excellent teachers and role models. As someone taught by both of them I consider NUJS super lucky to have them. If students speak ill about such professors it says a lot about the declining quality of the current bunch of students (along with vice-chancellors).

Whatever credibility the #NotmyVC movement has is getting lost by posts targeting such people.
Moralist 30 Mar 2018, 17:05
+6 -0
@RSC: I agree with your point about the two being very good teachers indeed. However, the comment of Thoughts was not aimed at their teaching prowess (which I think everybody agrees to be very good), but their conduct in course of this event. Surely, the fact that one is a good teacher does not make him foolproof against any sort of criticism regarding their behaviour or response to every event! That's what these two teachers have taught me in class at least, not to blindly idolise any individual, but judge an action for what it's worth. Nobody is saying they are against students or want bad things to happen to them. It's just that a lot of students do admire them and they could have perhaps behaved with a little more sensitivity and empathy towards the students in this entire scenario. Especially when they themselves have failed to make any dent to PIB's tyranny in their own official capacity even if they didn't always agree to it.
Thoughts 31 Mar 2018, 18:06
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So our dear resident moralist (SB) has sent an emotional email to all after he was shamed today for being a Bhat stooge. Best advice students have for him is to go to NALSAR and teach his brand of pseudo thoughts there.
Not Cool 1 Apr 2018, 03:07
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@Thoughts: That really reveals the extremely unpleasant way your mind works. It almost seems as if you were a party to that deplorable action yourself. If so, let me tell you as a fellow student that you shamed us more in the process than you might have the faculty member concerned. If you want to shout slogans at a person, at least have the courage to do it in his face and not after locking him inside his room like a coward. All our claims of having the moral high ground in this movement get jeopardised by these idiotic stunts pulled by people like you, but I guess you are too far gone into the realms of stupidity to realise that. And regarding your last comment, ask any good student/alumni whom that guy has taught. We would rather have one guy like that here at NUJS than hundreds of people harboring thoughts like you.
Thoughts 1 Apr 2018, 11:38
+6 -4
@NotCool Chill dude, we asked the Resident Moralist (SB) why he was against us but in Labour Law class talks so much about workers rights and kicks students out of class for no reason. This is hypocrisy to the max and he was RIGHTFULLY shamed for it. There are many equally good faculty members who spoke up for students (AKP, Shameek sir, LDG) and students will protect them. Hypocrites like SB who oppose us will not be acceptable at NUJS. Better he figures that out himself.
Not Cool 1 Apr 2018, 13:22
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@Thoughts: As I said dude, if you had the guts to protest against him or his stance, you'd have chosen a better and open way for it. What has been done is neither rightful, nor does it shame anybody apart from those who did it. You didn't see any of us hiding our faces on 28th when we were protesting against the VC, did you? And teachers do not need students' protection. The day they do, it will be a very sad day for the institution we study in. Why not try asking any of those good teachers whether they support what you did with SB? You will get a very different answer, I'm sure. As I said, your mentality is visible quite clearly in your comments. Try implementing your brand of protesting openly without hiding, and we will show you, RIGHTFULLY, what is acceptable at NUJS or not.
Finally, if you have ever been kicked out of a Labour Law class, then chances are either you deserved it, or you deserved it. Please don't blame the teacher for every single bit of your inadequacy. It makes your personal bias against him very obvious and the fact that you are trying to take advantage of a movement to satisfy your grudge.
Thoughts 30 Mar 2018, 15:09
+7 -2
It is appalling to see some of the comments here that fail to understand that the General Body exhausted every single option before protesting. And none of us are apologetic for knowing that we deserve better, and demanding our due. So the Mysore Mafia should really help themselves and begin looking for jobs elsewhere - we all know how you got there in the first place!

Also - the conduct of certain Professors in this entire affair was deplorable to say the least. KR - the beacon of professionalism shoved a student and entered through the main gate. And was RIGHTFULLY shamed by hundreds of students. SB - the resident moralist, does not lose breath talking about labour protests and bandhs - but has no shame in actively attempting to sabotage the agitation.

On the other hand - LDG, SKG, SS - who are also great teachers sat in the sun for hours, also lent moral support. We are proud of them, and we see their courage to stand up for what's right.
alumni 31 Mar 2018, 08:58
+1 -7
The biggest problem of nujs students is ‘weed’.
The previous VC allowed drinking (alcohol) on campus and hence he qualifies to be the best VC of nujs till date, in the eyes of nujs students community. PIB opposed ‘weed’ (alcohol) hence he is the worst VC and must go out.
They wanted to avenge PIB by misleading and fooling CNLU and prevailed over CNLU not to allow PIB join them either. Shame!! Shame!! Shame!! Student community at NUJS Shame!!.
Those who were agitating were LLB stooges of some moron faculties at Nujs, and LLMs (many of whom are LLB (alumnis) from CNLU) did not participate in the agitation at all. Faculties also did not participate except 2/3 butt-hurt professors from NUJS. Those butt-hurt professors who agitated were instead using/fooling the students community to get their vested interest served, in the garb of supporting students’ cause. These butt-hurt professors belong to the same category against whom students also wrote emails 1 or 2yrs back.
CNLU must get in touch with their own alumnis studying LLM at NUJS to understand the inside story, instead of relying on the mislead student community of NUJS.
Going by the Review Commission Report NUJS must stop having ‘Day Zero’ practice, because Review Commission says that NUJS students must indulge in ‘social work’ (and not corporate law firm jobs- impliedly)by applying their knowledge of law. LOL!!
The URC report puts nujs students in extreme bad light when it claims in its report that NUJS students get their jobs not because of their high credentials but because of their socializing networking skills. Shame!! Shame!! Shame!!
The URC report is a report on working of NUJS for past 17 years out of which only 5 years belong to PIB what about the performance of NUJS in the remaining previous 12 years??
Another big problem of nujs is ‘academic inbreeding’. Academic Inbreeding is the root cause of downfall of many educational institutions worldwide. Nujs has the highest no. of alumnis employed at nujs itself, obviously those alumnis currently working at NUJS are not the cream of their batches and are essentially those who managed to lobby with some influential professors in and outside nujs or the weed- doers hiding under the garb of current batches of nujs ‘students’ and are misleading the either student community in every possible way. #doawaywithweed #stopbullying #stopvictimizing # savenujs #sudharjaonujs. Else this shall be the beginning of the end (of NUJS).
Insider 6 Apr 2018, 06:22
+0 -0
One among Mysore group left to join some private law college down south
Bhat Mania 6 Apr 2018, 06:24
+0 -0
Prof Bhat always preferred his community (Bhat) people which has not gone down well with students of current generation. Subramanya Bhat, SG Bhat, Ravindra Bhat, Sairam Bhat, Sandeep Bhat are the ones whom he promoted during his tenure. He thinks that only his people should be there in positions and get promoted
Bhat is back 6 Apr 2018, 06:26
+0 -0
Bhat is staying back, planning to propose himself to be interim VC till the new VC takes over. He will be at NUJS for at least one year as Interium VC. Kudos to Bhat supporters
Being human 6 Apr 2018, 06:28
+0 -0
Let us be humanistic in our approach, university is a place of exchange of ideas. You cannot block the ideas and identities of others rather they should be accomadated if not for any thing else at least for the sake of humanity. The minimum thing that any university can do is to ensure humanity which was not present during Bhats regime
Review of NUJS 6 Apr 2018, 07:04
+0 -0
There shall be review of all the appointments made at NUJS since its inception 2000. It is not only that during Bhats regime illegal appointments were made, but earlier also since day one there are illegal appointments took place in NUJS. The review committee report also indirectly mentioned the same. If there ought to be review let there be review and inquiry of all the appointments appointments at NUJS since day one. None of the UGC/Govt norms were followed, no actual test of capacity to teach and research of the candidates and meritorious people were ignored all along
Sadon 6 Apr 2018, 11:16
+1 -1
Lobby groups will destroy NUJS. There is workers lobby who want to do no work, bad student lobby who want pass and degree at any cost, good student lobby who want better teachers, faculty group who supports no transparency becos they dont take class, are unreachable and hate work, faculty lobby who support sexual offenders, faculty lobby who support Bhat for being their community, faculty lobby who check out female students, faculty lobby who give marks based on looks and dress and faculty lobby who talk shit in class.