Latest bar exam proposal update: All law grads may practise subject to giving undertaking to pass AIBE

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Latest update: All 2010 law graduates may be able to practise law subject to giving an undertaking they would clear the all-India bar exam within two years, according to a bar council source. Read on below for further details.

Exclusive: Subject to restrictions, Delhi and a number of other bar councils would permit 2010 graduates to practise in courts before passing the bar exam on 6 March 2011 said Bar Council of India (BCI) member Rajinder Singh Rana after yesterday’s BCI meeting in Chennai, adding that the state bar councils would also insist on three to four additional test centres in every state.

However, Delhi bar council chief Rakesh Tiku told Legally India that the entire exam could yet be called off.

BCI member Rana told Legally India that yesterday’s “short” BCI meeting in Chennai confirmed that the exam would be postponed to 6 March 2011 and that Delhi and a number of other state bar councils would not prevent 2010 graduates from practising in some courts, subject to restrictions which would still be decided.

“It is still not official yet but we are not going to stop them [from practising] but restrictions will be put in place at the next meeting – we will put some conditions,” said Rana.

However, he added that “after March 6th we will not allow any [graduates who did not pass the exam] to practice”.

Rana explained that the BCI members would hold another longer meeting in Delhi to discuss the precise restrictions would be imposed on 2010 graduates’ practice before passing the exam, which could include limitations on the courts the graduates appeared in.

Update 22 November 11:53: It is understood that one 2010 graduate was informed by a senior BCI source that before beginning to practise, students may have to give an undertaking that they would sit for the exam in March although it was unclear to whom such undertaking would have to be issued, by when and how this would be controlled.

Update 22 November 13:42: Legally India has received confirmation from a state bar council source with knowledge of the Chennai meeting that graduates in all states would be allowed to practise, so long as they gave an undertaking that within a period of two years they would clear the all-India bar exam. Consequences for not clearing the exam had not yet been decided on. The BCI members also decided for legal industry services provider Rainmaker to not hold the bar exams following March 2011, which would be conducted by state bar councils in their respective states. Legally India could not confirm whether this was a unanimous BCI view or just that of one state bar council representative.

Rana said that no date was fixed for the next meeting although it could happen within 20 days. Rana said he was not aware of which other bar councils would also permit advocates to practice.

He also noted: The state bar councils demanded that the number of [test] centres are very low. We want to extend the centres for the examination to three or four more centres in each state.”

The original all India bar exam (AIBE) proposal had called for 27 examination test centres across India, according to the BCI’s website.

Update 23 November 7:35am: The Indian Express also confirmed this morning that graduates may be permitted to practise only after signing an undertaking to clear the bar exam in future and subject to possible limitations on rights of audience in certain courts. A final decision might be reached within a fortnight, Maharashtra and Goa bar council member Deshmukh told the paper.

Delhi bar council opposes exam without statutory amendment

Delhi bar council chairman Rakesh Tiku took a stronger stance, while confirming that the Delhi bar council would not stop 2010 graduates from practising.

Tiku said: “We have taken the stance that the whole notification of the BCI proposing to have the examination on December or the adjourned date – we are opposing it. We are recommending that the whole thing should be reviewed by the respective state bar councils whether we need an exam at all or to include this option in various colleges’ curriculum.”

He also said that the bar exam would be prejudicial against many lawyers outside the metro cities, where the quality of lawyers may not be as sound as in the metros but whom you should not prevent from becoming lawyers. “You can’t oust them from practising,” he stated.

“Secondly we are saying that the BCI has no authority to give the exam,” added Tiku. “The Advocates Act [1961] has not been amended and if at all the exam has to be done, let respective state bar councils give it.”

Tiku said that this thought process had been conveyed to the BCI and that at a meeting on 2 October, 14 state bar councils had passed a unanimous resolution before BCI chairman and solicitor general Gopal Subramanium that they had opposed the exam.

“We are not supporting it, whether December or March,” Tiku added. This is unanimous.”

Legally India first reported on Tuesday that state bar councils and the BCI was considering whether or not to carry out state-wide exams.

Earlier today Legally India reported that the Supreme Court transfer petition in the bar exam cases may yet be heard this month after all.

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Comments

Anonymous guest 22 Nov 2010, 02:08
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Just answer my one query if they allow us to practice till passing of the exam and the case remains pending while the lawyer fails in the exam then what is the fate of the client... and now they are saying we can pratice who will pay for the dames for 4 months
Anonymous guest 22 Nov 2010, 02:26
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BCI please stop such antics & dont play with our future
Anonymous guest 22 Nov 2010, 03:03
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NO EXAM OR DERECOGNISE BCI.
lalitganatra 22 Nov 2010, 03:16
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Respected Friends,

If any state council will allow any lawyer to practice without clearing bar exam than we will win & the bar exam will be useless because once power given for right to practice by any state bar council cannot be withdraw under any circumstances. After allowing, they cannot withdraw right to practice saying that now you have no right to practice due to fail in bar exam.

"Ek bar kah diya ki tum lawyer doctor ho aapni practice start kar do aur bad me kah denge ki tum doctor nahi ho ab apni practice bandh kar do??."

Once any state council allow to practice than remaining state councils have to give same powers to all student at india level.

One more thing, BCI have no right to stop us because BCI already said us "advocate - lawyer" The meaning of lawyer is Legal Practitioner so we are legal practitioner & no one have right to stop us from legal practice. If they stop us from legal practice than they don't know meaning of lawyer.
Anonymous guest 22 Nov 2010, 03:51
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CONGRATULATIONS NDLS !
Anonymous guest 22 Nov 2010, 04:04
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Siddharth whats the next move ?
Anonymous guest 22 Nov 2010, 14:10
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They are gonna give us the practising Rights SUBJECT TO SOME CONDITIONS!!!
lex suprema 22 Nov 2010, 16:59
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A CONDITIONAL RT TO PRACTICE ..WOW..........HEY BHAGABAN UTHALE.....WELL MUJHE NAHI....SOME1 KO.
Anonymous guest 22 Nov 2010, 17:21
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WHY ITS WRITTEN"SOME GRADS MAY PRACTICE ""
Anonymous guest 22 Nov 2010, 18:41
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Joke no. 1: Right to practice allowed by some state bar councils while not by all...have these ppl ever heard of basic principle of "Equilaity before law" or Article 14 of Indian Constitution

Joke no. 2: Right to practice subject to certain limitations....again it is against Right to practice any trade and profession as provided by Indian Constitution

Joke no. 3 (and this one made me fall out of my chair): Affidavit to be submitted by law grads...what will it state...that we have passed LLB in 2010, got enrolled in 2010...but we will not practice subject to clearing an exam to be conducted in 2011....that too pending suits with regards to legality of such exam before SC...

I think based on these humorous developments, our law minister, GS and other ppl supporting this illegal exam should be made to sit for an exam first, and then if they pass, they shall be given "Right to regulate legal education"....
kianganz 22 Nov 2010, 18:47
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Slight clarification there actually, the way we had expressed it left room for misunderstanding.

One apparent proposal is that law grads can start practising, but before they do so they'd have to give an undertaking that in March 2011 they would sit down and take the exam (whether that is an undertaking to pass the exam is not clear).

I have no idea whether that is true and whether it will be implemented but thought it was a proposal worth mentioning.

Earlier we had written it back to front slightly which left room for confusion out of context ("students may have to give an undertaking that they would sit for the exam in March before practising").

We have corrected the wording in the copy to make this clearere...
Anonymous guest 22 Nov 2010, 18:59
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#11, thanks for the clarification.

Such an affidavit makes sense if it is signed by a final year law student who is yet to appear for final exams, wherein he can state that he will sit for a bar exam before practising.

How can an exam to be conducted in 2011 (that too not fully confirmed whether such exam is legal without amending advocate's act) can have retrospective effect over all the advocates who have duly enrolled before respective bar councils in 2010 !!!!!!!
Anonymous guest 22 Nov 2010, 19:32
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Ultra Vires

Seeking any such undertakings would be Ultra-Vires and contrary to Sec. 24 of the Advocates Act, 1961. Neither BCI nor SBCs can ask for such Undertakings. It would be bad in law.It can be done by only by legislative amendments in the statute. Seeking such undertakings AFTER ENROLMENT WOULD BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL.The SBCs can seek such undertakings from the law graduates only before enrolment and not after. After enrolment SBCs cannot put any conditions.
Anonymous guest 22 Nov 2010, 22:54
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What about the compensation part because they restrained us from praticing from the date of enrolment till 5th december firs they must pay us the damages then they have to talk further... who knows they will again postporn from march to june . june to july.. and so on.... GS is going by assumptions that no young lawyer can fetch clients + a young lawyer can't handle litigation... If he was not able to do it doesn't mean that we also can't.
Anonymous guest 22 Nov 2010, 23:41
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Please take off AIBE exam ...

[Please do not write in all-caps, it is hard to read. We have converted your post to lowercase but in future we will increasingly not publish posts in UPPERCASE letters. Thanks. -Ed]
Anonymous guest 23 Nov 2010, 01:29
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Haha.. right to practice with an undertaking to pass exams.. this is like letting a doctor to practice medicine with undertaking to pass exams later..i personally feel exams for 2010 batch may get canceled
Anonymous guest 23 Nov 2010, 06:50
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Excellent reporting style from Mr.Kian and team!! Thrilled to see such good reporting (the manner in which the news is put up i.e.)
Anonymous guest 23 Nov 2010, 13:46
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Update 22 November 13:42:"........so long as they gave an undertaking that within a period of two years they would clear the all-India bar exam........." Now just analyze when the students have filled the application form the (yet to declared unconstitutional)rule provided that the a student can have ny number of attempts for the exam.... now they say only 2 attempts....

Number 2 . wot if the authorities vindictively doesnt allow a student to clear the exam..his life is finished.

I kn manay students who have taken loan from bank and now that they r made to sit at home they cant pay the loan. Now if any of those students commits suicide Mr. Gopal Subramanium, BCI, and the law ministry will be liable. I purposefully didnt mention the name of RM [...]

Guys just pray to god that none of such stuidents nywhere in India gv up their lifes for such a brazen stand and coz.
Anonymous guest 23 Nov 2010, 19:37
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I think BCI is in mood of leaving 2010 batch but they don't understand that how to adjust that money which they have taken from 25000 students.In my view BCI should say to all students that passing the exam for 2010 batch will not be compulsory but those who will pass the exam we shall issue them praising certificate. In case exam get cancelled by BCI then students should develop in their patience that they should not look towards money but that their carrer.
Anonymous guest 23 Nov 2010, 22:12
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I think that BCI have no such right to put any such condition on the right to practice. This right of advocates is only the outcome of the qualification they are possessing. This right is not on the mercy of the BCI. This is an acquired right. If BCI is thinking that the advocates of Batch 2009-10 onwards are not upto the standard and are inferior in quality of Education from the Prior Batches , then there should not be any question of Conditional Right of Practice.

BCI is postponing the Exam and Extending the cut of date for filling the application only keeping in mind the Financial Gains.

BCI is Playing With the carriers of the ADVOCATES.

IF in this Judicial System JUSTICE IS NOT AVAILABLE to Advocates is it not true that JUSTICE CAN NEVER BE AVAILABLE to a common man.
Anoop Prakash 23 Nov 2010, 22:59
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I filed three cases today and tomorrow filing one more in High Court of Delhi.

Freedom from slavedom. 2010 grad's, Let’s celebrate!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous guest 24 Nov 2010, 01:34
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Dear Friends,
Whoever is making this type of stupid conditions to impose on 2009-10 batch is absolutely meaningless. Example: parents are asking the bride and bridegroom to get marry but don't raise the kids, if kids are raised kill them until they get permission from parents to raise the kids. The EBCI exam also is in the same way, BCI asking for undertaking to pass the exam is conditional they are trying to impose such type of rules on young lawyers who's career is at stake. How long the young lawyers will suffer sitting at home waiting for the exam and wasting the time, it is almost one year is wasted by BCI.

Dear Bar Council Rulers please avoid this confusion don't try to put us in bin. You have already collected Rs. 1300/- from us, please return our money and drop the idea of conducting the exam for 2009-10 batch. If you are really interested in conducting the exam, first you should inform the colleges and students enter the exam conditions in the new syllabus so that the students will decide whether to study law or to study other course. We are already completed our LL.B graduation obtained law degree enrolled as member we are already recognised as advocate by SBC what else you want more then this. So please don't waste our time, sitting at home and waiting time in the name of exam is really spoiling our career. Moreover asking for conditional undertaking is another stupid thing this is all meaningless.
Thanks
Anonymous guest 24 Nov 2010, 02:20
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Demand compensation from Gopal Subramanian for wasting seven valuable months and spoiling your careers apart from the mental trauma caused to your batch. Further ,those who have taken education loans should file a suit making him liable to pay the interest & money lost in terms of earning during this period. The proposal of the Bar exam was done without being practical & taking various factors in mind. Further, when you commenced your law course there was no stipulation that you had to pass a Bar Exam to practice. Don't give into the whims & fancies of Mr Subramanian fight for your rights. He has done great injustice to your batch playing with the careers of so many young graduates even some of whom come from low income groups. Atleast, the saving grace is that you have some of the State Bar Councils on your side who see reason and are [...].
Anonymous guest 24 Nov 2010, 02:54
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Why is BCI hell bent in conducting AIBE when its not prepared to do the same? So much confusion over the legality of the exam, the sutdy material not reaching the advocates on time, and now the final nail in the coffin- this postponement of the exam. Why can't they just let go off the 2010 grads? And its not just about the 2010 grads. First BCI should be sure of what it wants to do and how it is to be done to ensure absolutely no scope for confusion etc. before it can hold an AIBE for any advocate in future; instead of playing with our careers. Seems like they've gone nuts as they're coming up with absolutely faltu ideas now.
Anonymous guest 24 Nov 2010, 03:00
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This exam is illegal.
lalitganatra 24 Nov 2010, 03:55
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Respected Friends,

Please read following news on www.indianexpress.com

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/lawyers-can-practise-first-clear-exam-later-bar-council/714602/

Two year for bar exam now for 2009-10 batch with signing undertaking
Anonymous guest 24 Nov 2010, 06:09
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Friends let us take an initiative and start and start a signature campaign. Let us collect the signature of all the all 2010 Graduates and send a memorandum of request to CJI.
Anonymous guest 25 Nov 2010, 16:11
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does anyone know if foreign nationals or pio card holders can take the exam??????
Anonymous guest 26 Nov 2010, 15:32
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What is the latest news on 25th..pls update.
Anonymous guest 26 Nov 2010, 18:32
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Please tell us that When B. C.I will give official information about AIBE and practice rights for 2010 batch ?
lalitganatra 27 Nov 2010, 13:36
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Dear Friends
Only Date Change On Website

http://www.barcouncilofindia.org/about/first-all-india-bar-examination/
lalitganatra 28 Nov 2010, 19:52
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BAR COUNCIL OF INDIA'S WEBSITE NOT WORKING??

CHECK IT HERE ?

www.barcouncilofindia.org

Regards
nimsuchi 29 Nov 2010, 12:51
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When is the BCI entrance exam scheduled now? It is past 25th by when they had to announce the date. Is there any news??? :sad:
Anonymous guest 4 Dec 2010, 21:16
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actually what the problem with BCi.......................?


why BCI its comentment again again ...........?

no doubt we are going to loss one and half year in BCI rubesh game...........?

BCI is responcible fr this factor..........?

shame on you.........!
Anonymous guest 24 Dec 2010, 04:57
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hey friends,one think i did not understand when bci want to check law graduates abiity,then now they have given permission for practice its means all law graduate r advocates,so then how bci can check ability of an advocate,if they wanted also then they have to check all before,after 2010 passed advocates also,why should 2010 batch only,pls kian refer my question with all responsible peoples who want this exam.
Anonymous guest 27 Dec 2010, 15:29
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Late Fatehpal singh waas First among equals in legal fraternity of 2010.I saute his courage and strong will.May he ispire all of us to fight the draconian Bar exam.
Anonymous guest 23 Jan 2011, 22:22
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there is any assurance that after qualifying All India Bar Exam young lawyers will be execellant! the syllbus have such aquality that upgrade the quality! No...!
Anonymous guest 27 Feb 2011, 02:32
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this years law graduates should allow to practice or say after entrance if not cleared also
reasons are many
MANOJ SHUKLA 11 Jul 2011, 12:13
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I THINK THIS EXAM IS JUST A TYPE OF HYPOCRACY AND THERE IS NO MEAN OF THIS EXAM WND IF BAR COUNCIL THINKS THAT THIS EXAM WILL GENERATE QUALITY LAWYERS THEN LAW GRADUATION SHOULD BE ABOLISED AND ONLY A MAN WHO KNOW ALL THE SECTIONS AND CAN CLEAR THE ENTERANCE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO PRACTICE AS ADVOCATE. AND ONE THING I WANT TO CLEAR FROM THIS TEST POLICY MAKERS THAT WHO IS ABLE TO LEARN A THING LEARNED BEFORE TWO YEARS BEFORE OR MORE THEN THAT .WE CAN SAY THAT WE ARE THOSE BAD LUCKERS WHO HAVE BORN IN THAT COUNTRY WHERE THERE IS EVERY THING DIVIDED AS PER CHOICE OF THE POLICY MAKERS/LEADERS/BUROCRATES.I WILL ADD ONE MORE THING THAT THIS TEST IS JUST A SOURCE TO RAISE MONEY NOT QUALITY BECAUSE A MAN WITH LUCK MAY ALSO GET CLEARE THAT EXAM WHEATHER HE DONT KNOW A SINGLE ALPHABATE OF LAW .AT LAST THIS IS OUR BAD LUCK TO BE BORN IN INDIA WHERE EVERY THING IS FOR SOME SPECIFIC RELIGIONS/PERSONS/COMMUNITIES NOT FOR ALL.