CLAT 2020: Up to 40% fewer questions for less ‘mental stress’ • Patterns rejigged • VCs vow to up scholarships, faculty training

Seems like not playing musical chairs with running the CLAT is at least creating some momentum
Seems like not playing musical chairs with running the CLAT is at least creating some momentum

The next Common Law Admission Test (CLAT) will take place on 10 May 2020 with 25-40% fewer questions and revised undergraduate test patterns to reduce the “mental stress” of law school aspirants, according to the decision made by the CLAT Consortium of national law schools today.

The number of questions in the undergraduate exam would be reduced from the present 200 to between 120-150 questions, while the duration remains the same at two hours.

Prof Faizan Mustafa, Nalsar Hyderabad vice chancellor and previous NLU Consortium president, said in a statement that “asking students to answer 200 questions in 120 minutes is not right as it puts students under lot of mental stress”.

Furthermore, the question pattern has been tweaked so that “comprehension-based questions” would now be asked in the categories of quantitative techniques, English, current affairs, deductive reasoning and logical reasoning.

“The idea is to get better students to National Law Universities who have competence in reading texts and demonstrate skills in inferential reasoning,” Mustafa explained.

The notification for CLAT 2020 will be out in the last week of December 2019, with online application forms available from 1 January 2020.

The convenor for this year’s CLAT will be NLU Jabalpur, though the Consortium will presumably ensure continuity in the work to hopefully avoid the problems that used to plague the CLAT when a new NLU reinvented the wheel every year.

The Consortium was set up in 2018 after prolonged criticism and a Supreme Court petition by the late Increasing Diversity by Increasing Access (IDIA) founder Prof Shamnad Basheer,)

Apparently today’s meeting had a good turn-out, with all NLU VCs attending, according to their statement.

Planned scholarship, faculty training, facilities upgrade drive

In a welcome move, though the mileage will have to be measured once the talk turns to walk, the Consortium resolved to “launch a scheme of scholarship / fee concessions for the students of NLUs”.

Cash-strapped NLUs may baulk at the prospect of losing out on some fees, but as IDIA has pointed out over and over again throughout the years, NLU tuition fees remain a huge impediment to improving access to legal education.

The Consortium also said it would “undertake several faculty development programmes in various member NLUs” and “assist the member NLUs in upgrading their library, IT facilities and other infrastructure”.

Again, that is easier said than done but the permanent CLAT Consortium is at least making the right noises.

PG CLAT tweaks

The post-graduate CLAT too would see some changes, with more comprehension-based questions to be introduced, though the “descriptive portion” would remain the same as last year’s CLAT.

According to the release, the Consortium had also “authorised the Executive Council of CLAT–2020 to study the possibility of introducing cut off marks for the LLM”.

Change of guard

A new council of the Consortium was also elected at this meeting, with the body to now be headed up as president by NLIU Bhopal vice chancellor Prof V Vijayakumar, while RGNUL Patiala VC Prof Paramjit S Jaswal would be vice-president.

DNLU Jabalpur VC Prof Balraj Chauhan will be convenor for the 2020 CLAT.

NLU Odisha VC Prof Srikrishna Deva Rao was elected member of the Executive Council for the 2020 exam, and VC of NUSRL Ranchi, Prof V Kesava Rao, would be special invitee on the Executive Council for the purposes of the 2020 run.

Mustafa, as outgoing president “expressed his satisfaction on the formation and registration of Consortium of NLUs and expressed the hope that under the dynamic leadership of Prof V Vijayakumar, the Consortium will make meaningful contribution to the legal education in 2019 – 2020”, according to the press release, which added:

He thanked all the members of the Executive Council and the members of the General Council for their co-operation and support in discharging the duties of President in the first year of the formation of the Consortium of NLUs.

Number of changes were made in CLAT – 2019, i.e., the test was made off line from online and in PG paper descriptive portion was included. Further, for the first time carbonised copy of the OMR sheet was provided to the candidates.

A Grievance Redressal Committee was also constituted for CLAT – 2019 under the Chairmanship of Hon’ble Sri Justice S. Rajendra Babu, Former Chief Justice of India.

Vijayakumar “assured that CLAT Consortium will now do more meaningful contribution in terms of Faculty Development of member NLUs”, according to the statement.

Photo by Nick Youngson

Comments

Guest 21 Nov 2019, 12:24
+3 -1
Any updates on NLSIU and NUJS domicile quotas?
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 14:54
+3 -0
The NUJS quota is going to be implemented from 2020 itself. The NLSIU one hasn't been operational yet.
Excellent 21 Nov 2019, 12:31
+5 -3
Good job, consortium! This is the most substantive rejig to the CLAT since its introduction (if we don't count the disastrous online testing). Now the syllabus needs a rework to make more sense as an aptitude test
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 12:53
+2 -2
LOL, what real rejig do you see pal? Wonders of PR and media spin!
Rankwallah 21 Nov 2019, 13:15
+2 -2
Hi, where is NLUJ.
siddharth burman 21 Nov 2019, 14:31
+3 -0
Regardless of scholarship/ fee concessions, the paper pattern is about to undergo its biggest change since inception. That's the rejig 'pal'
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 15:00
+3 -0
The number of questions, yes. I doubt there's anything else that's going to change substantially. This lot produces nothing more than hot air. Comprehension-based questions, right! They would again use some faculty from within their coterie to frame the questions, who'd have no idea or experience about such and would copy paste from random guidebooks. Like most preceding years (certainly last 5).
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 12:39
+5 -18
IMO this should be the top 10 preference list time, all law schools included. You will not get this view from coaching centres and your local Sharma Uncle, but it is the correct long term one:

1. NLSIU
2 .NALSAR
3. NLUD
4. GNLU (new VC, lots of funding because of Modi)
5. NUJS (spoilt under Mamata regime)
6. NLIU (new VC, various improvements, ahead of NLUJ)
7. JGLS
8. RGNUL
9. RMLNLU
10. HNLU
KD Fallow 21 Nov 2019, 13:11
+45 -0
Rank wala baba aagaya.
Rankwallah 21 Nov 2019, 13:35
+1 -0
And where is NLUJ?
siddharth burman 21 Nov 2019, 14:36
+2 -2
Hi, NLU J doesn't feature on your list? (jodhpur) students of the top 200-300 ranks opt for this law school, often times over NUJS ( clat 2019 case in point ). The rank lists are still up on the consortium website. Kindly check
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 15:01
+2 -0
'Often'?
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 20:17
+4 -1
Who cares? Rankings generally suck. Take the “top” 30 colleges and their cream will likely be as good. NLUs/JGLS are just posher, so the likelihood of all students meeting a minimum standard (because they have excellent foundational learning thanks to attending good schools), is a bit higher, is all...which is of course the raison d’etre Of IDIA
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 14:57
+5 -1
There are some people who just fail to realise that unless you reveal your identity and credentials, starting any sentence with IMO while addressing strangers is not going to yield any dividend whatsoever apart from those coming from the most gullible of the lot. No reader would take any such 'opinion' or 'advice' seriously if they have any common sense. It's quite tragic that even such commentators are probably going to advise hapless clients one day, if they aren't already doing so.
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 20:30
+2 -0
Beg to differ. “IMO” is quite relevant as it clarifies that the contents of the post are not a part of the general consensus or a well known opinion. It distinguishes between opinion and fact.

The fact that a “nobody” may be commenting their opinion has as much relevance as someone well known. It is up to the reader to analyse the statement and decide how meaningful it may be. That is the point of critical analysis.

At least in the world of science, many journals allow one to submit research anonymously to prevent biases.

The impact an anonymous person with a decent idea (which could be a rigorous algorithm, a philosophy paper or an unfinished hypothesis) is evident from the explosion of blockchain technology.

That said, I absolutely agree that comment 3.0 is likely an attempt at trolling.
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 03:18
+3 -0
All your arguments are based on the assumption that the idea being put forward is actually backed by research or at least a logical argument. That is not the case here (seldom is in the LI comments section). Hence the rest of your point does not really apply.
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 07:20
+1 -0
Touché

I would argue that I explicitly state the troll value of 3.0, but touché!
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 12:52
+4 -2
It is time all NLUs transparently declare their faculty numbers and give us the full list of faculty members and qualifications and specialisations. A lot of fake news is circulated about which NLU has best faculty, most alumni faculty etc. Various people make claims on LI that are not backed by the official college websites. This fake news percolates down to law aspirants.
Rankwallah 21 Nov 2019, 13:16
+12 -1
It is available on the NLU websites, free of cost.
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 14:16
+0 -3
No it's not.
Rankwallah 21 Nov 2019, 14:46
+4 -0
I'm aware about NALSAR, NLUD and NLSIU for now. Others, I'll have to check.
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 15:03
+6 -0
NLUD hasn't updated theirs after the recent exodus. NLS and NALSAR's are more or less accurate. NUJS' is somewhat outdated, nor does it reflect the ones away on lien. NLUJ has majority faculty on contractual basis (certainly most of the assistant professors), again the list isn't updated. GNLU is fairly updated. Haven't checked the other ones myself.
a question 21 Nov 2019, 15:08
+7 -0
how come from nluo (2019) , the 2020 clat is being conducted by JABALPUR?? JAbalpur nlu came into existence in 2018 only..in between ranchi guwahati mumbai nagpur aurangabad nagpur and vizag are there...oh i forgot even shimla nlu is older than nlu jabalpur..
Now this could be a conspiracy theory, but we all know that control group of VCs can get anything done and BC is good friends with Vvk rs pj fm
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 16:05
+2 -0
Now that's a million dollar question. Nobody would file RTIs on this either.
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 18:15
+1 -2
Simple answer: the current NLUO VC is going to head NLUD, so he is not interested and turned it down.
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 01:41
+5 -0
NLUO has already hosted it. This was supposed to be turn of DSNLU, then NLUJAA and TNNLS, then the three MNLUs, then Uttarakhand and only after that, DNLU. Provided they were following order of establishment as they used to.
Realist 22 Nov 2019, 12:40
+1 -0
No, it was turn of NULSR, Ranchi.
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 13:16
+1 -0
@Realist: Who did it this year? Wasn't Ranchi the convenor this time around?
Bhai 22 Nov 2019, 14:23
+1 -0
This year it was conducted by nlsiu odisha cuttack
Realist 22 Nov 2019, 14:29
+1 -0
NLU Odisha did CLAT 2019. It was Ranchi turn for 2020.
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 14:54
+2 -1
Deemed too raunchy for CLAT?
Realist 22 Nov 2019, 12:37
+0 -1
BC has good skills to carry RS, VVK, PSJ, KDR with him to get CLAT conducted smoothly. No conspiracy at all.
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 13:18
+2 -0
By that logic, NLS should have conducted all the CLAT since 2008. Why even go for rotation? It's just a ploy to divert huge funds to certain places instead of others. The NLU that conducts CLAT gets 50% of the whole revenue plus 1/23 of the rest.
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 15:26
+12 -4
The faculty development idea coming from NALSAR is ludicrous at best, as it is the worst place among all the NLUs, for the academics to work. There're just no facilities nor any opportunities for career growth for the academics. The same is proven by the attrition at NALSAR since the tenure of the current VC: abt 25 members of the faculty have left the institution in the last 5-6 years. Outside, NALSAR is just over-hyped. Once people get associated as academics only then do they become aware of the realities. The only logical choice that they then are left with is to get out of this great place (thanks to the administration) as soon as possible. And, the said 25 "academic martyrs" have just done that.
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 16:07
+1 -1
That many have left in the last 5 years? How come this never got the media attention like the exodus from other places like NUJS and NLUD did? Can you name a few? I only know of one, Prerna Dhoop, who left this year.
Hyderabadi Ranbiryani 21 Nov 2019, 17:17
+4 -2
Haha most of them would be the economics professors.
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 17:54
+1 -0
How many faculty members does nalsar have for eco that 25 left in 5 years? That's almost like a law firm attrition rate if you bring it to scale!
Hyderabadi Ranbiryani 21 Nov 2019, 18:15
+4 -3
It used to be a joke on campus that the post of economic professor is similar to the Defence against the dark arts post in hogwarts. I.e. cursed. not many remain after a sem or two. Hopefully, that has changed.

Not all were econ professors, of course. Manav Kapur, for example, left for his doctorate, another one left for health reasons, etc.
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 21:02
+1 -0
Actually Manav Kapur and Ajey Sangai both joined JGLS and then one left.
Oh? 21 Nov 2019, 18:39
+2 -0
What exodus has actually happened at NLUD? Not looking for a fight, genuinely curious. I'm not from NLUD, but I remember a few years ago, they were happily touting the number of Law School people teaching there etc. What changed? Is it routine turnover of faculty as research interests and career goals evolve, or has something fundamentally changed at NLUD?
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 21:03
+0 -0
Exodus will happen after new VC appointment.
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 01:39
+0 -0
There are not more than 3 NLU graduates currently teaching at NLUD. Several other NLUs have many more.
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 03:19
+1 -0
That would be Anup, Chinmayi and Aparna, right? Mrinal is no longer teaching.
Oh? 22 Nov 2019, 04:40
+1 -0
I don't think Mrinal leaving can be blamed on NLUD, right? I mean he got a high profile gig with the DJA, so I suppose it was a career move. I know Aparna and Anup have tenure, but is Chinmayi a permanent member of the faculty or is she on contract?

In any case, if these 3 are still around, who has actually left?
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 06:00
+2 -0
By that logic, the departure of any faculty who has ever left for Jindal or an abroad stint does not reflect on the institute. Unless there has been an open spat between the faculty and the admin, like SidChau with NLSIU (rather with Venky) or Shamnad with PIB. But people here keep attributing departures to the universities only as a matter of practice. The main reason is perhaps that regardless of the motivation behind the departure, every good person leaving hurts the institution. So it's less about whom to blame and more about what the state the person leaves the university in. Chinmayi had also taken leave for her PhD I think, or would be soon. In reality, NLUD never had more than these 4 as NLU grad faculty (although the PR made it seem many more).
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 07:22
+1 -0
Mrinal is only on deputation. He hasn't really left, and will hopefully be back once that gig is over. Chinmayi does not have tenure. She has been away for more than a year now, pursuing her higher studies in the US. So claiming she is still on the faculty may be duplicitous. Aparna and Anup have tenure. In effect it is just the two of them currently at NLUD. I think the talk of people leaving refers to the fact that from the 4, Mrinal and Chinmayi are no longer teaching at NLUD, and there are very strong rumours that Aparna is leaving too. She is definitely on leave from teaching this term, though apparently not from her research centre. This is not an exodus certainly, since there are other good faculty at NLUD as well. But perhaps not many others with the same high profile as these 4.
Oh? 22 Nov 2019, 04:49
+2 -0
Like what/where/who?
Law School -
Full tenure: Sudhir (1998 NLS), Sarasu (1995 NLS), Rahul Singh (2003 NLS);
AdHoc/contract: Sanyukta (2005 NLS), Rashmi (2007 NLS), Kunal (2012 NLS), Roopashi Khatri (2015 NLS);
Guest/Visiting (for whatever that's worth): Sondhi (1998 NLS), Ajar Rab (2011 NLS)

Any idea on other NLUs?
Curious Feline 22 Nov 2019, 06:16
+4 -0
NALSAR -
Full tenure: Siddarth Chauhan (2008 NLS), Sudhanshu Kumar (CNLU, maybe 2012), Chinmay Deshmukh (2012 NLUJ)
Contractual: Sahana Ramesh (2015 NUJS), Aakansha Kumar (2012 HNLU), Vivek Mukherjee (2015 NLIU)

NUJS -
Full tenure: Shameek Sen (2005 NUJS), Saurabh Bhattacharjee (2006 NALSAR), Agnidipto Tarafder (2013 NUJS), Souvik Guha (2010 NUJS), Mahesh Menon (NUALS, maybe 2011/12)
Contractual: Paromita Dasgupta (2007 NUJS), Ruchika Ghosh (2008 NUJS), Anwesha Pal (2011 NUJS), Rashmi Bothra (2011 NUJS), Darshana Mitra (2012 NUJS)
Apart from this, at least 2-3 alumni offer full 3-credit courses regularly every year.
Oh? 22 Nov 2019, 12:32
+0 -0
Well, so much for NLUD's claim of most NLU grads teaching. Not counting the 4-5 alumni who offer one-off seminar/elective courses - they are not on the university rolls.

So NLS, NALSAR and NUJS have a small but significant number of NLU alum teaching. That's a myth that needed busting.
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 12:57
+1 -0
That myth has been busted here many a time before. The NLUD trolls keep coming back with renewed vigour every month. Technically, the highest number of NLU grads are at JGLS, of course. That place offers fresh LLM grads 1.2 lakh per month plus free acco, research grants and other perks (more than twice any NLU ever would). Difficult to say no to, really.
Oh? 22 Nov 2019, 14:13
+1 -0
Lol, Jindal doesn't count. A public university is a public university. It's not like Kunal couldn't have gotten a job there. But he stuck it out for almost 6 years as an adhoc at NLS, almost ready to give up since Law School just refused to do full time recruitments. But now Sudhir seems set on it, so it should pay off.

Point being, full time academia is a career. One sees institutional growth. See Sarasu - started as a lecturer, then contract assistant prof, then full time assistant prof, associate, full prof and now registrar. Admittedly Jindal has excellent pay, but many prefer the idea of a public institution. Plus, one could slave away for years at Jindal, only to be looked over as some high profile celeb academic is helicoptered in as full Prof.

A lot of NLU LLBs who have foreign LLMs look to Jindal as a halfway house (with good pay and time for research) while they prepare their PhD apps. The real test is to see if they return after that back to Jindal.
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 14:52
+1 -0
There's also the research grant aspect. Jindal provides a lot of incentives for quality publication. No NLU does that at present.
Guest2 23 Nov 2019, 04:33
+0 -0
Call it a "grant for publication" or more honestly, "pay for publishing" which is ethically suspect. Jindal is basically paying people to write in journals, so long as they footnote their institutional affiliation as Jindal. There's a brightline between creating an enabling environment for research (including publishing) through time allocation, leave etc. But outright paying is just wrong.
Guest 23 Nov 2019, 07:28
+1 -0
I would like to differ from your opinion about that. The university gets higher ranking and grants on the strength of these publications among other things. You cannot give promotions etc. on the basis of extra publications beyond what's the common minimum standard. So what else is there to incentivise someone to handle all his teaching workload plus admin work and still keep writing more than what's the bare minimum necessary? You can either reduce the other workload of those faculty who are prolific writers, or you can provide additional incentives. Jindal has opted for the latter. It's payment for additional work done that's beneficial to the university. I see nothing wrong with it ethically. It's not as if they pay for any publication, it has to be a SCOPUS, WOS etc. Those are not easy to do, you need to devote considerable time and effort for those.
Guest 23 Nov 2019, 11:06
+0 -0
The payment for publication is separate. JGLS faculty also get separate research grants allocated to them for projects.
Guest 24 Nov 2019, 12:04
+0 -0
Sudhir is the VC which is always a contractual position! Without the same, he does not hold a tenure at NLS.
Lol 24 Nov 2019, 13:18
+0 -0
I mean, sure. Really going for the semantics are we? Sudhir as VC (on a fixed contract) has more say than any full time prof. So that's the benchmark, not to bunch him in with adhocs. COME ON.
Guest 24 Nov 2019, 13:48
+0 -0
But if he does not take up any teaching responsibility, then counting him as one of the faculty would also probably not be entirely fair. Debatable issue, I guess.
Another NLS Alumnus 24 Nov 2019, 14:42
+2 -0
Based on inputs from current students, Prof. Sudhir Krishnaswamy is teaching an elective course on constitutional interpretation during the November 2019-January 2020 Trimester at NLSIU. He is scheduled to engage more than 40 class hours for this course. That is more than what most NLU VCs do, perhaps with the exception of Prof. Poonam Saxena at NLU Jodhpur. Knowing Sudhir's track record, he will definitely take on teaching responsibilities throughout his term as VC. Unlike RVR he is least interested in attending meaningless conferences and government functions. He has been chosen to improve the overall quality of classroom teaching and that is what he must concentrate on apart from addressing the budgetary deficits created by the previous VC and Registrar.
Guest 24 Nov 2019, 17:58
+0 -0
It's good to know that Sudhir is going to teach a paper himself. The VC should get to have some teaching time at least in the NLUs, where the batch size isn't that big and knowing the ground realities can be important. The NLUJ VC also does that, as you have pointed out. I have been told that the new NUJS VC is also going to do that apparently.
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 10:24
+4 -1
There was a story on Legally India in 2013 that, "NALSAR in 14 full-time fac hiring spree". Out of these, 9 people had left as soon as they realized their mistake. Most of them, were alumni, as indicated below. Following are the names:

1. Manav Kapoor - alumnus
2. Akshaya Kamalnath - alumnus
3. Ashrita Prasad - alumnus
4. Suryaprakash Misra
5. Anshumann Shukla - alumnus
6. Irine Kafeza
7. Martin Price
8. Malvika Prasad- alumnus
9. Anjneya Das- alumnus

This was the case of the exodus after the "first hiring spree". However, the great exodus still continues.
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 12:38
+5 -10
1-4. Manav, Akshaya, Ashrita and Anshuman left for further LLMs and/or PhDs.

5. Martin Price was a Fulbright scholar and left when his fellowship ended.

6. Irine Kafeza ran into visa extension issues and went back to Greece.

7. Malvika and Anjaneya were TA-ing for one semester as they TCs to join in London the following January.

Surya was the only one of this list who left feeling aggrieved with the place. However, a part of it was his students complaining about his strictness on class attendance, exam papers and that fact that he wanted to teach them Economics!

Other than these, people who have left are:

10. Sridhar Acharyalulu - he got made the Information Commissioner in Delhi. What do you expect?
11-12. VK and KVS Sarma - both got handed VC-ships at different places. Currently both are at different MNLUs.
13. VCV - Bennet and HNLU.

14. Ajey - students (batch of 2018) are partly responsible for him leaving. Esp. their heartless reviews from Property Law.

15-16. Aditya and Aninidita were only there 4 months each and went over to Jindal the moment they could.

There are others, I am sure. So 25 doesn't feel off the mark. However, it is worth remembering that these 25 were all never at NALSAR at the same time. So many of them were replacements of another and have been replaced by others.
Guest 25 Nov 2019, 13:47
+7 -3
Whatever explanations u offer r not true. NALSAR is misrepresenting a lot. Let’s go through point wise as u defend NALSAR’s misrepresentations.

1. Akshaya & Manav didn’t go directly for higher studies. They joined other places after quitting NALSAR and going for higher studies. Why would the alumni do that? Additionally, Anshuman and Ashrita joined Jindal and not NALSAR after their higher studies. It says a lot abt the way NALSAR would have treated them when they were there.

2. If Martin Price had come for a short duration to NALSAR, then why was he projected as a full time faculty in the list??

3. Malvika’s and Anjaneya’s joining for one semester, despite their having training contracts, was projected as a full time recruitment. Was it appropriate??

4. Can u clarify as to what course was Surya hired to teach? In what course was he trying to teach Economics?

5. Keep aside the reasons for the senior faculty members to leave NALSAR. The concern is abt their substitutes. Who have come in in places of Sridhar, Sharma, VK & VCV even after so many years?? The simple answer is "GHANTAAAAA".

6. In case of Ajey, even if the students were heartless in their review, what should the admin have done? They should have done the right stuff by taking the right decision but they chose to appease the students at the cost of a gud academic.

7. When u have been consistently misleading abt every issue raised then there is just no credibility in ur claim regarding Irene Kafeza.

8. Aditya and Aninidita were there only for 4 months each and went over to Jindal as u say. Why?? That’s exactly what was said, that competent people leave as soon as they realise their mistake of joining NALSAR.

Overall the point is that NALSAR doesn’t have the capacity and academic maturity to retain good people. It’s even worse than a private school. Lastly, obviously, nobody is indispensable and thus people r replaceable. So don’t hype this as well that NALSAR has replaced these people. Even private schools replace people.

Experienced faculty is gone, the talented young ones couldn't b retained, so what remains at NALSAR is obviously a "BIG GHANTAAAAA"!!
Guest 26 Nov 2019, 11:59
+3 -0
Bang on. Nalsar PR people are downvoting your comment. Kian, why the hell can't LI do a report giving the true facts and figures on faculty at NLUs? is LI afraid of the facts and protecting some NLUs?
Guest1 26 Nov 2019, 16:06
+1 -5
Well sure . But Akshaya manav malavika anjaneya Anshuman ashrita and Ajey were all hired in ad hoc positions anyway. They were not hired full time - no such implication was made ever and they were on ad hoc contracts and not regularised. It was understood even at the time of hiring that these folks would leave for further studies at some point.
It is ridiculous to ask Nalsar to compare with jgls in terms of paying its teachers the same - there just aren’t resources - and if people leave because of that - they get replaced. That is the best that can be asked for.

And of all the senior faculty that have left - first they left at different points of time - not an exodus- and for different reasons ranging from being caught for selling off university furniture to being offered higher positions with the government. And lastly - in the five years I was at Nalsar- all of these senior faculty were at Nalsar - and only VK did any real teaching. -and even that was awful. So no big loss to teaching staff there.

There are also a bunch of teachers who have stayed at Nalsar - and I would argue that they are better teachers than the senior faculty that left.
Among those who are still at Nalsar I would argue that sidharth chauhan ( who got regularised), Vasanthi, Kannan, hota, Sudhanshu, jagteshwar and Neha Pathakji are very good at their job.

The real question is what crisis will befall Nalsar once Amita dhanda leaves. A lot depends on how the institution continues to be run after her.
Arunachalam 27 Nov 2019, 10:44
+3 -1
Chaato, chaato, aur chaato.
Guest 27 Nov 2019, 10:52
+1 -1
After Dhanda? Even now the institution is being running shoddily while its VC keeps running all over the country delivering random political statements and comments instead of doing the job that he is getting paid for.
Guest 27 Nov 2019, 12:03
+2 -1
Stop behaving like a fool. The heading of the news was, 'Nalsar in 14 full time fac hiring spree' - FULL TIME, note that it says FULL TIME. How would a CLAT aspirant know that how long one who is presented as a full time faculty is going stay unless the CLAT aspirant is close to the admin?
Guest1 27 Nov 2019, 14:45
+1 -4
Full time doesn’t mean permanent. You do understand that? Full time can be temporary. Full time simply means that they aren’t guest lecturers or part time faculty. I don’t see any dishonesty.
Guest 27 Nov 2019, 15:20
+3 -1
That's very spacious argument. Sorry to say, but in the Indian academic context, hiring full-time faculty does seem to indicate people with permanent tenure. It's at best a misrepresentation if the university gave out that press release and not the media on its own.
Guest1 27 Nov 2019, 21:10
+1 -1
*specious. And no
It isn’t . Guest faculty often have whole other careers in practice/ policy on the side. Full time faculty are teaching full time. I don’t see where the confusion is. If they had hired some of these alumni ( Malvika and Anjaney) permanently - that would have very much been problematic considering they hadn’t even earned LLMs then I think let
Alone passed the NET. They were full time ad hoc appointees. Not one of the people on campus was misled.

Besides I very much doubt it was NALSARs doing to describe them as major hires. Hiring permanent faculty is a long and difficult process and no law school would be able to hire 14 at the same time.

And the full time/ part time distinction exists for every line of work in every career. If someone was misled- it was by their own mind and definitely not by any “PR” Nalsar puts out.

The days of buying rankings from India today ended with the tenure of the previous VC.
Guest1 26 Nov 2019, 16:07
+0 -0
And Martin price and Irene kadee were never projected as full time faculty - atleast not to students who always knew they were there temporarily . Cannot speak to Aditya or anindita- they were after my time.
Guest 27 Nov 2019, 15:33
+2 -1
The website clearly said they were full-time faculty. PR spin once again.
Satheesh 26 Nov 2019, 05:23
+1 -0
Can you give the details of the others apart from the ones in the list??
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 12:49
+4 -0
That's because the media is managed by the great admin. Many of the faculty are under a lot of mental stress (& need (and some also resort to) regular counselling by psychiatrists) thanks to the admin. Ultimately they leave.
Jussayin 21 Nov 2019, 16:19
+6 -0
The reduction is not the smartest thing, in my opinion. I remember from my days how I realised I basically have about 36 seconds per question, and how daunting it seemed at that point in time. However, it does help separate the ones who are able to (i) effectively manage time under immense stress; (ii) know which opportunities (i.e. questions) to capitalise on and which ones to let go off; and (iii) form an overall strategy in the face of stress caused by the paucity of time, from those who can't.

Ab NLU jaane ke baad probably mindlessly koi firm jaaoge toh bhaiya stress toh manage karrna aana chahiye.
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 17:35
+3 -0
Can someone provide greater details on the legal status of this Consortium of National Law Universities, which has established a permanent CLAT Secretariat at NLSIU? https://clatconsortiumofnlu.ac.in/about_us.html

Is it separately registered as a Public Trust, Registered Society or Non-Profit Company? How does one access its financial records? How is the staffing done? Rules of business? How do they "elect" and details of "election"?
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 17:55
+7 -0
An old boys' club, consisting of a group of people expert in diverting attention away from the real problems faced by the NLUs, so that they can play musical chairs with the VC positions.
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 17:43
+2 -2
Sad that the cowardly students of NUJS cannot go on strike and demand suspension of the quota until implementation of admin reforms.
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 17:56
+7 -1
Sad that the cowardly commentator cannot reveal his identity before calling others names.
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 17:53
+0 -0
Regarding faculty data, the big 3 have revealed it on their website, please check. In terms of faculty quality it is often claimed the order is NLUD>NALSAR>NLSIU, but I think the order will now never with Sudhir K coming to NLSIU and Ranbir Singh leaving NLUD. In fact, NLUD could really slide downwards.

As far as other NLUs are concerned, NUJS, MNLU and TNNLS are decent as they have a few alumni teaching and Bengal/Maharashtra/TN have a bigger academic talent pool compared to some other states. NLIU and NLUJ are decent too.
Yatish 21 Nov 2019, 18:08
+2 -14
Our CLAT tutor advised to make this the CLAT/AILET preference, based on industry feedback and current student information. Within the same level colleges maybe interchangeable if a student wants to change for family or other reasons but one should not go down to a lower level.

Level 1
1) Bengaluru
2) Hyderabad
3) Delhi

Level 2
4) Mumbai
5) Kolkata
6) Jodhpur

Level 3
7) Bhopal
8) Gandhinagar

Level 4
9) Kochi
10)Odisha
11) Patiala
12) Lucknow

Level 5
13) Nagpur
14) Aurangabad
15) Trichy
16) Vishakapatnam
17) Raipur

Level 6
18) Jabalpur
19) Shimla
20)Patna
21) Ranchi
22) Guwahati
23) Sonipat
Wow 21 Nov 2019, 19:09
+3 -0
That's impressive. 23 colleges to pick from.

Back in my day....
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 20:42
+1 -0
Why is the Mumbai NLU on the list?

If you are looking at Mumbai, go to GLC instead. It is much cheaper, has decent faculty (the visiting profs who are the ones who take the legal subjects anyway), decent committees (though starting a new one is a pain) and considerable freedom.

For the “NLU” academic experience, join the moot court committee and law review and take on the better profs as mentors. Some of them are great!

The negative: no hostel bonding experience and mandatory self discipline. Full freedom can be a bitch sometimes..
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 01:36
+9 -1
Quit lying. You are not a CLAT aspirant. No CLAT tutor gave this preference order. CLAT tutors getting industry feedback, laughable! Why don't you name the tutor, instead of trying to pass off an arbitrary list via random excuse?
Rajen 22 Nov 2019, 12:45
+1 -0
Kochi should be the last in level 4. Ranking in level 6 is not convincing at all.
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 20:59
+0 -0
Ridiculous to reduce the questions. IIM CAT has even more. The test is to see how one can plan time well and strategically answer a few. It will dilute standards. STUPID STUPID IDEA.
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 03:15
+2 -0
CLAT has been diluting the standard ever since its inception in 2008. Any person having seen a pre-2008 batch and a post-2008 batch at any of the older law schools would attest to that.
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 21:07
+1 -1
Dear law aspirants, do NOT make the mistake of choosing NLUD over NLSIU or NALSAR. It is totally overrated and faculty strength is exaggerated.
Guest 21 Nov 2019, 21:13
+1 -0
https://qz.com/1752415/hong-kong-campus-sieges-prompt-secret-notes-from-china/

The stakes are very different. No comparison. But think. When "we" talk about INI, IoE and other stuff floating in alphabet soups cooked in govt kitchens et al, we are basically talking about increased "central" funding (as if that comes without political strings), which would apparently allow NLUs mostly run by PSJ/SSS/VVK/NKC and clones and the newer Messiah variety to attract and retain (cherry picked) "talent". Btw I am all for doing away with archaic UGC rules and allowing discretion to get "quality" but not cherry picking. That's really not a fine line until someone wants to make it appear so.

Coming back to the point, I was trying to make. HKG students had it all. Sure there is always room for improvement. And yet the "democracy" bug made them get into a lopsided battle and they are still fighting.

What are we willing to give up? When will we stop seeking Messiahs? When will we stop building sand castles? The reason we are not taken seriously, is us. And stop this "quality" faculty madness esp the Ox(en) variety. We all know of folks who do not have PhDs (from fancy or regular places) but can teach far better than Messiah variety, simply because they are humans not afflicted with God complex. And there are folks with PhDs etc who struggle to teach undergrads but are great with helping doctoral students find their verve or are great in applied research.

The point is that NLUs should have systems and spaces to host irreverence. Because "reverence" hasn't really got us anywhere. Time to stop worshiping and creating Messiahs and false Gods.
Observer 22 Nov 2019, 03:46
+1 -1
I hv serious doubt about the capability of paper setters. They hv failed every time in setting paper . These old guards never appeared in their lifetime in such kind of exam and competitive atmosphere. In 2015, approx 27 gk questions were picked up from gktoday site. In 2017, 13 questions were wrong, however they admitted probably 09.2018 they had given responsibility of conducting exam to a company, which was under investigation in ssc exam scam. What you can expect now? Even ordinary coaching centres do prepare better mocks with minimum mistakes. What kind of stress, VC wants to reduce? This is competitive exam,in which performance under stress carry a greater quality. In AILET, they ask much tougher 150 questions in 90 minutes. They should handed over this exam to cat or ibps exam body, who have proven record so far. Wait for another mishap by this body. Sorry, if I sound pessimistic abt their calibre.
NLUD? 22 Nov 2019, 03:48
+2 -3
All these are mere speculations. Sure few things will change but NLUD will continue to rise upwards. There are already so many problems at NLS with Sudhir K at helm. He's clearly not being able to handle any of it. NLUD is certainly going to be the best!!
Nostalgia 22 Nov 2019, 04:55
+1 -2
Ah the good old times a few months ago when people were claiming Sudhir would do everything short of get NLS UNESCO certified best law school. And here we are as expected with him struggling to hold the reins. Anyone who dared question the idea of an inexperienced person being given the keys to NLS was treated like a moron but where are now
Calm the F down 22 Nov 2019, 05:30
+2 -2
It's been less than 3 months since he's taken over. He's still cleaning up the mess (mainly financial discrepancies) that were created under the previous administration. Give the man some time before you judge his performance.
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 06:19
+3 -0
What has he done exactly to 'clean up' the mess? Or is he simply brushing it all under the carpet, let bygones be bygones, we are all a big, happy family sort of drive? Not a single inquiry has been ordered yet, has it now?
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 06:28
+4 -0
There have been problems with NLUD including campus violence, misogyny, feud between faculty etc. ever since its inception. RS managed to keep all that quiet through his contacts and using aggressive PR. Those days are gone. Frankly, NLUD students have never exceeded or surpassed in graduate outcome those from Law School, NALSAR or NUJS apart from perhaps the Civil Services exam and Delhi judiciary. The university cannot take any credit for either, it's the proximity to Delhi and the additional coaching responsible for that (and of course getting bright students every year through AILET, even if the latter is nothing more than extortion). One good thing it has done is to increase focus on research culture among faculty members. But that too is limited to 5-6 key people and doesn't seem to be percolating or spreading institutionally. If those people leave (as some have started already) after RS does and PJ steps in, it's doubtful how long that culture can be sustained. Even NUJS used to have that during MP Singh's time, with Shamnad, Prabhash et al (the others painted a pretty picture but never matched these two in terms of research output). A pity, because NLUD has a lot of advantages including location and funding.
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 07:26
+2 -1
Hmmm, spotted on the Nagarbhavi campus this week - two of the 'star profs' from NLUD taking class. One hears that these classes were arranged directly by the VC's office. They were certainly spotted hanging around with the VC, and lunching with him. Strong rumours doing the rounds that a 'homecoming' is eminent.
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 08:46
+6 -0
Out of curiosity, exactly when do you become a 'star prof'? Does it require your students to see stars like in comics if they fail to attend one of your classes? Or does this have astrological significance too, like the future of the institution turning bleak should you choose to leave the place?
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 09:12
+3 -0
Sure NLUD will "continue to rise upwards". Empty vessels always do when adrift in water. It's called buoyancy. Or maybe one of those gas balloons from IT?
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 12:30
+0 -0
I agree that GharWaapsi may be happening for NLSIU alum teaching at NLUD, thanks to Sudhir.
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 12:33
+0 -7
When people compare which NLU has more alumni teaching, those who are NLSIU and NALSAR alumni deserve more points than those from other NLUs. Note also that NUJS alumni seem to have LLM/PhD from NUJS itself. I am not saying you must go abroad, but why not NLSIU or NALSAR for LLM and PhD? Finally, why is no information available on the official website?
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 17:44
+7 -0
It's nice to know that Manan Mishra or his counterpart from the UGC has appointed you as the arbiter of judging who should get their degrees from which university. Although one finds it difficult to understand how getting an LLM or a PhD from one NLU over another might make a person a better or more capable faculty, it's doubtless your fertile imagination can come up with a suitable justification for that too. The only thing is, I doubt you are capable of doing even a fraction of what any of these people are contributing for legal education or law schools, hence your opinion counts for precisely nothing in this matter.
p.s. The NUJS official website has the names of all of the tenured people mentioned here, as well as that of all the contractual ones recruited till the year 2019. The fact that you couldn't locate it by yourself is yet another indicator of your capability.
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 17:56
+7 -0
I am not saying you must comment on the Harvard or Oxbridge blogs, but why comment on Legally India? Why not comment on Bar& Bench or Lawctopus?
because 24 Nov 2019, 14:59
+2 -1
most NUJS alumni teaching at NUJS are [...]. Only one guy (SKG) is an exception to this.
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 17:03
+0 -0
Re the faculty issue, Jindal actual has separate pay packages for NLU and non-NLU grads. It may seem unfair, but at least it is a nice contrast from those NLU VCs who do the reverse and are hostile towards NLU alumni.
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 17:44
+7 -0
It's a contrast alright, but certainly not a nice one. Discrimination is discrimination, no matter which party is favoured.
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 17:13
+0 -0
Anyone have any idea about NLU Haryana in Sonipat? How is it doing?
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 17:16
+0 -6
I request law aspirants not to believe the fake comments about faculty quality of certain NLUs. Please go by the official website and nothing else. Obviously no NLU will post names of faculty who do not teach since they are govt employees. Similarly, no NLU will miss out listing names of faculty.
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 17:45
+6 -0
Which NLU do you run so as to be
so authoritative with your opinions about what they might or might not do? NLU Whatsapp?
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 17:48
+5 -0
All the info mentioned here about the faculty of NLSIU, NALSAR, NUJS and NLUD are entirely accurate. Anybody who says otherwise is either delusional or ignorant. Or even worse, expelled (from one or other of these places).
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 17:50
+6 -0
Which particular information is fake in your opinion? Kindly elucidate. Unless you are going into existential philosophy and saying all this is fake, the comments section, LI, your virtual presence etc.
Guest 23 Nov 2019, 10:37
+1 -0
Can't understand all the hate against JGLS in the comments. JGLS gives special perks to NLU grads and is a good job option for NLU grads interested in research careers. It does not insist on UGC NET from NLU grads and does not expect them to be bootlickers of the admin. Will you be happier if the JGLS VC is insecure towards NLU grads and treats them like some notorious NLU VCs have done? Do you want him to be a clone of Ishwar Bhat or Bimal Patel?
Guest 23 Nov 2019, 13:07
+3 -0
Any 'special perks' given to any faculty based on which college they have graduated from is as reprehensible as any hostility directed at them as you have mentioned to have happened at NLUs. You want to only hire students with degrees from NLUs because you think their curriculum, student culture etc. is different from other universities, that I get. Don't agree with, but I get. However, after having recruited two people, you can't treat them differentially based on where they have graduated from. Even if a private player does that, it might not be legally actionable, but certainly dubious morally and ethically.
Guest 23 Nov 2019, 20:20
+0 -13
I advise all CLAT aspirants put MNLU as second choice after NLSIU and NLUD. MNLU is bound to overtake NALSAR and NUJS because of Mumbai factor. Moreover Telengana and Bengal are both non-BJP, non-Congress states, so no national vision and poor funding.
Guest 24 Nov 2019, 04:22
+10 -0
I advise all CLAT aspirants to laugh out loud at comment 23. Would be good for their health and future both.
Guest 24 Nov 2019, 04:57
+0 -5
My top 10: NLSIU>NALSAR>NLUD>NUJS>GNLU>NLUJ>NLIU>MNLU>RGNUL>NLUO.
Guest 24 Nov 2019, 05:57
+2 -0
You remind me of Baba Saigal from Superhit Muqabla film song show from the 90s.
101 24 Nov 2019, 07:18
+0 -2
90s? That means you a faculty/admin, not a student.
Guest 24 Nov 2019, 08:20
+1 -0
None of the above. Didn't you consider that option? That omission must have cost you quite a bit during your entrance exam.
Guest 24 Nov 2019, 16:22
+0 -0
NLUD is the #1 law school... for PR and hype.
Guest 24 Nov 2019, 16:29
+0 -1
Why do anti-Sudhir loser trolls have to post on every thread? These are probably the same people who post dissing alumni teaching at NLUD, JGLS etc . No one gives a shit about your jealousy and insecurity. Please form a Facebook group for disgruntled non-NLU alumni and rant there.
Guest 24 Nov 2019, 17:49
+2 -0
Same can be said about the Sudhir fanbois.
Guest 24 Nov 2019, 19:51
+0 -0
The real challenge of ranking is where to place non-NLUs like JGLS, Symbi, KIIT etc versus the tier 2 NLUs. Would you turn down RGNUL or HNLU for them? Or draw the line lower, like NLUO or CNLU? Or even lower, like NLU Shimla and NLU Sonipat? Or is any NLU irrespective of which one better than a non-NLU?
Guest 26 Nov 2019, 09:33
+0 -0
Dear Kian, I think LI has been very unfair to NLIU Bhopal. You are allowing people to say that certain NLUs are better without information to back it up. I request you to either moderate these comments or do a proper report on your own. You are most welcome to visit NLIU anytime and judge student quality, faculty quality, infra etc. I am not saying things are brilliant, but the question is how good they are in comparison to these other law schools (who thrive on PR).
Guest 26 Nov 2019, 21:13
+2 -6
Once again, PR squads are spreading misinformation about faculty at law schools to confuse gullible CLAT aspirants and parents. Here is the true picture if you can swallow it:

1. NLSIU: Only NLU with an alum as VC and a very qualified person. Registrar is also an alum. Presence of other alumni teaching are less as they were kept out due to the politics of previous administration. And some of the old guard are terrible teachers. But the future looks bright because of the present VC.
Rating: 2.5 stars at present, but 4 stars if Prof Sudhir's executes his vision.

2. NLUD: A few good NLU alumni teaching and some good non-NLU alumni too. But many of them are on long leave. However, the future is very bright if Prof Srividhya becomes VC.
Rating: 3 stars at present, but 4.5 stars if Prof Srividhya executes her vision.

3. NALSAR: Overrated, overhyped. Not many alumni teach, most do not last for more than a semester. Among others Prof Dhanda is famous but she will retire. The present VC has no prestigious publications or qualifications, just busy appearing on media and attacking BJP. Students are also famous for their indiscipline and arrogance, which deters good faculty.
Rating: 2.5 stars, but 5 stars for hype and PR.

4. JGLS: Maximum NLU alumni teaching and many profs with good qualifications. However, most of the star faculty teach for limited hours. This would have been fine had the batch size not been so large. Many classes land up with bad faculty. Furthermore, opportunities to be research assistants for the star profs are also limited because of excess students.
Rating: 3 stars out 5.

4. NUJS: Probably had the most respected VCs of any NLU in their first 3 VCs (Prof Menon, Chimni and MP Singh), but the next 3 have been mediocre (Ishwar Bhat, an unknown judge and the present one). There are a few NLU alumni teaching, but perhaps not the cream of talent.
Rating: 2.5 stars
Guest 27 Nov 2019, 04:33
+4 -3
Are you a bona fide gomata from Prayagraj who can give expert opinions about who is or isn't the cream? If I say every single faculty member in every law school in the country is much better than you in every aspect imaginable, you don't really have any proof to counter that. Nor have you even met most of these people, let alone attend their classes. So any judgment coming from you is the product of your imagination which as seems as fertile as the other holy product from gomata. As for your addiction towards giving stars, I think you've got law school confused with Zomato, Swiggy or an app-cab.
Guest 27 Nov 2019, 04:36
+3 -2
Every CLAT aspirant or their parents should know that any person providing anonymous rating in the comments section lacks any standing whatsoever in terms of providing accurate picture across law schools. If they actually had the credentials, then they would have done it in their own name. Just like anonymous mails, these are absolutely garbage.
Guest 27 Nov 2019, 11:00
+1 -0
Sorry to learn that 25-30 teachers have left NALSAR and not a single graduate of NALSAR is teaching there.
Guest 27 Nov 2019, 13:26
+0 -0
There are only about 5 NALSAR LLB grads who are teaching in India as it is. One of them currently teaches at NUJS and he's easily the best teacher that they have down there at present.
Guest 27 Nov 2019, 16:11
+0 -0
You are obviously excusing JGLS. So who are the five?? Anup Surendranath (NLUD, on long leave), Chinmany Arun (NLUD, on long leave), Saurabh Bhattacharjee (NUJS, active)... who else??
Guest 27 Nov 2019, 16:07
+0 -1
Such desperate lies trying to exaggerate Nalsar faculty strength. High time somebody revealed the whole truth. As LI refuses to do it perhaps we can request Bar & Bench or Lawctopus (which is probably the best choice as it caters to law aspirants, who are the people being fooled).
Current NALSAR Student 27 Nov 2019, 19:12
+2 -1
We don't stand to gain much by responding to anonymous comments, but there is a good point being made about the interests of CLAT applicants who might be reading these comments. So I will respond to some of the concerns about the faculty strength at NALSAR. The attrition of faculty members has been a genuine problem and continues to be one. There are several reasons for it, including:

(a) Senior Professors leaving for better positions in Government or leadership positions at other Law Schools; for example the present Vice-Chancellors of HNLU Raipur, MNLU Nagpur and MNLU Aurangabad as well as the Dean of Bennett Law School were all earlier at NALSAR. If we go back in time, the present VCs of NLU Delhi and NLU Odisha were also earlier at NALSAR.
(b) The semi-rural location of the NALSAR campus which has discouraged a few teachers from continuing; completely understandable for those with chronic health difficulties, small children etc.
(c) Lower Salaries when compared to some of the newer private sector options; the obvious beneficiary being JGLS - I have taken courses with 5 instructors at NALSAR who are now at JGLS.
(d) poor feedback from students, which is especially damaging for those in ad-hoc positions at early stages of their career.

Admittedly, there have been a few individuals who have chosen to leave owing to discomfort with internal academic policies or specific grievances. It is up to those individuals to decide whether they want to publicly discuss or explain their respective reasons for not continuing. The institution should not be blindly condemned if a serving teacher leaves to pursue a better career-opportunity, be it a doctoral/post-doctoral programme, a higher-paid position or a leadership position at another University. All organisations (be it in government, business or civil society) have to grapple with such concerns about attrition and competition for talent.

The present strength of 'full-time' teachers at NALSAR is 42 (as of November 2019). This includes people serving in 'permanent' as well as 'ad-hoc' positions. All the names and profiles can be read on the NALSAR Website, under the 'The Uni Team' Tab if you go to the sub-tab 'Academics' and the listing of 'Core Faculty'. Here is the link:

https://www.nalsar.ac.in/core-faculty

This list of 'Core Faculty' obviously does not include the numerous individuals who have taught courses on a visiting basis (usually 1 or 2 credit elective courses or Social Science Seminars). Over and above this, some NLU graduates have worked as Teaching Assistants or Research Associates for funded projects. Their names have never been included in the faculty profiles on the NALSAR website. So where is the scope for misrepresentation?

As for the recurring question about how many in the current lot hold undergraduate degrees from the NLUs - at the moment I can count 6 individuals. That would include:
(1) Sidharth Chauhan (NLSIU 2008),
(2) Sudhanshu Kumar (CNLU 2011),
(3) Vivek Mukherjee (NLIU 2015),
(4) Chinmay Deshmukh (NLUJ 2015),
(5) Aakanksha Kumar (HNLU 2012), and
(6) Sahana Ramesh (WBNUJS 2015).

AFAIK, only two out of these six (Sid.C and SK) are in permanent positions. However, possessing an undergraduate degree from a NLU is no guarantee of teaching performance. Some of the best-performing faculty members that we have (T. Kannan for Sociology, Hota Agni Kumar for History, Neha Pathakji for Taxation, Manohar Reddy for Language/Literature) studied at larger Central/State Universities.

Having said all this, NALSAR does need to increase its faculty strength and I am quite hopeful that some more individuals will join by the start of the next academic year (2020-2021). We especially need a full-time person for Economics and some good teachers for Procedural Laws (CPC, CrPC and Evidence). The current teachers for Criminal Law and Family Law also need to be eased out and replaced by better ones.
Guest 27 Nov 2019, 16:33
+0 -1
Everyone is using this forum to mislead . NLSIU and NALSAR people are claiming occasional guest lecturers to be full-time faculty. NLUD people are not stating who is on leave. NLIU expects us to believe they are better than NLUJ when their websites does not give info. Same for NUJS (names or bios missing, some listed as guest lecturers).

The only NLU that walks away with dignity is NLUJ. All the details are on the website with full transparency. No false claims have ever been made on LI. Just look at the facts: 1 NLUJ alum, 1 GNLU alum, 2 HNLU alums and 1 RMLNLU alum who are assistant professors + 1 NUJS alum who is a guest faculty. 5 full-time NLU faculty is MORE than NLSIU, NLUD and NALSAR. But it is better to maintain a dignified silence than give cheap, fake boasts.


http://www.nlujodhpur.ac.in/faculty.php
Guest 27 Nov 2019, 18:22
+3 -0
Aren't most of the assistant professors at NLUJ also contractual? They haven't hired permanent people down there in ages. So, your bragging is a bit of egg on your own face, I believe. Simply calling a person assistant professor doesn't make the guy a permanent tenure holder.
Guest 27 Nov 2019, 18:25
+2 -0
NUJS website mentions all the permanent faculty members quite clearly. Of them, 5 are NLU grads. The ones listed as contractual or guest faculty are the people who don't have tenure yet, but are offering one or more subjects regularly. Again, of them, 5 are NLU grads. If you can't figure that out, that's on you, not the university.
Guest 28 Nov 2019, 09:55
+0 -1
I have reported comment 31.2 as it is not proven. Where on the NUJS website does it say all this? Some names are there but bios are missing. Also, other than faculty, the quality of the VC is also important. Why is the VC's bio blank? No publications are listed, no work ex and qualifications are listed.