Confederation of NLU grads drives to fund underprivileged students at lower-ranked NLUs, maybe more

Project Eklavya aims to help lift up NLU grads, hopes for more projects to improve access going forward
Project Eklavya aims to help lift up NLU grads, hopes for more projects to improve access going forward

Around 13 graduates of a number of national law universities (NLUs) have started an initiative called the CAN Foundation, which is short for Confederation of Alumni for National Law Universities.

CAN aims to raise funds from senior lawyers to help students with financial issues at primarily lower-ranked NLUs meet their tuition fees and other expenses.

Nearly 25 applications have been received by the original application deadline today, which has been extended to 8 November on the requests of several applicants, said CAN Foundation CEO Siddharth Gupta.

Gupta, who is a 2006 NLIU Bhopal graduate who practices in courts in Jabalpur, Madhya Pradesh, said that CAN was started after several NLU alumni had been informally fundraising for needy students for several years, particularly in assisting Increasing Diversity by Increasing Access (IDIA) scholars requiring help in meeting tuition fees.

“Then we decided that we would be more organised if we had our own foundation,” he added about CAN Foundation, which was registered in August. “What we did, because most of us have good connections with senior advocates in the Supreme Court, we started reaching out and we told them our twin objectives are we’d be funding the fees of undergrads and poor and necessitous students throughout the country.”

This first project is dubbed Eklavya, which has already received commitments of up to Rs 15 lakh from senior advocates Vivek Tankha, Neeraj Kishan Kaul, Siddharth Luthra, Vikas Singh and Dhruv Mehta, according to its website.

Each of the seniors has contributed from between Rs 2.5 to Rs 5 lakh, said Gupta, to fund 10 to 15 students who get selected by CAN’s “scrutiny committee” of nine NLU grads.

Of this notional corpus, 15% would eventually be kept with the foundation to finance its operations, while the remaining 85% would be disbursed as scholarships.

The founders of CAN are Abhinandan Mishra (NLIU 2006 and Delhi bureau chief at the Sunday Guardian newspaper), Siddharth Srivastava (Link Legal India Law Services equity partner), Sankalp Kochar (NLIU 2007, practising advocate in Jabalpur), Ravikant Patidar, Manu Maheshwari (NLU Odisha 2014) and Aditya Khandekar (NLIU Bhopal 2012, Jabalpur-based advocate).

Application process

As of yesterday, around 110 students had registered but only around 25 had uploaded full documentation by today.

The application process is not without its challenges, requiring filling out a 12-page form with 22 different heads, including listing any existing scholarships, overdrafts or borrowings to finance their education, and requiring income tax returns of parents to prove annual family incomes of less than Rs 6 lakh per year, Gupta explained.

Also required are letters of recommendation from each applicants’ vice chancellor (VC) and an affidavit of both father and mother on notarised stamp paper guaranteeing that all material facts have been disclosed and there has been no suppression and that otherwise criminal prosecutions may be launched against them personally.

The due diligence is require to minimise the possibility of “ghost beneficiaries” or “spurious cases”, Gupta said.

Once all applications have been received (and the revised deadline has passed), the scrutiny committee of nine NLU graduates with a minimum of eight years of practice experience would evaluate all applicants.

That committee consists of Pragati Neekhra (additional advocate general, MP and Supreme Court advocate-on-record), Amalpushp Shroti (AOR, advocate MP high court (HC)), Arjun Harkauli (AOR, Advocate, Delhi HC), T Singhdeo (Delhi HC advocate), Rishad Ahmed Chowdhury (AOR, Delhi HC advocate), Talaha A Rehman (AOR), Divyakant Lahoti (AOR, advocate Delhi HC), Mrigank Prabhakar (AOR, advocate Delhi HC), Suhasini Sen (advocate Delhi HC).

The committee has been “given complete autonomy and independence and impartiality, to take a call of its own method of assessment, whether it wants to give marks, or whatever, and to shortlist the candidates”, said Gupta.

What will likely be considered are criteria under two heads: merit and means. The former includes students’ academic performance, publications, moot court and other extra-curricular achievements. The “means” head, would be decided broadly on parental income, the home region of an applicant (and whether this is particularly underdeveloped), as well as the NLU at which the applicant studies.

Ranking NLUs

“What we have done is divided compartmentalised NLUs into 3 tiers,” said Gupta.

Tier 1 includes the five oldest NLUs, plus one upstart that has upset the traditional pecking order: NLSIU Bangalore, Nalsar Hyderabad, NLU Delhi, NLIU Bhopal, NUJS Kolkata and NLU Jodhpur.

However, candidates from the next two tiers would have a clear preference in selection, according to Gupta.

Tier 2 consists of HNLU Raipur, GNLU Gandhinagar, RGNUL Patiala, RMLNLU Lucknow, CNLU Patna, Nuals Kochi, NLUO Cuttack, NUSRL Ranchi, NLUJA Guwahati and DSNLU Vishakhapatnam.

Tier 3 is made up of TNNLS Tiruchirapalli, MNLU Mumbai, MNLU Nagpur, HPNLU Shimla, MNLU Aurangabad, Dharamshastra National Law University Jabalpur and Dr. B.R. Ambedkar NLU Sonepat.

“Our major concern is the bottom 10-15 NLUs,” said Gupta. “It has been principally decided also, that we will give students from lower 10-15 [because] the top five already get a lot of funds from respective bodies.

“But the lowest rungs don’t get that much of support and finances.”

“We can never judge the person or capability of any candidates on the basis of university,” said Gupta. “It all depends on how much investment the government makes in it [the NLU], how much exposure students get, what is the standard of teaching and faculty there. If all these things are provided by any candidate, the ranking or the position of the NLU is absolutely irrelevant.

“It’s the candidate and graduates that provide name and fame of the university.”

NLS has had the advantage of early batches from the 1990s now having joined the judiciary, and senior positions or partnership at law firms or the bar, said Gupta. “We can’t say that just because some university has come up in the last two or three years, the students will not be able to fare well. I would rather put it like this: like you provide reservations and service employment benefits to backwards classes, or ST/ST reservation, in the same manner we feel in the CAN Foundation, we need to focus more on the tier 2 and tier 3 universities, which are yet to pass out and yet to establish themselves, and students are waiting for good exposure for themselves.”

Part of the reason to focus on the younger NLUs is also about a differentiation from IDIA, which Gupta said generally focused on the top five NLUs.

A different IDIA

IDIA (Increasing Diversity by Increasing Access), founded by the late Prof Shamnad Basheer, has adopted a different model to tackling lack of access by training up to 70 underprivileged law aspirants per year (and also educating school kids about the option of a career in law) to dare to take and to crack the law entrance exams.

IDIA director Arnab Roy explained that IDIA, which currently has a total of nearly 110 scholars studying across various NLUs, did not only fund tuition fees of its scholars at the top NLUs by way of policy, though it was generally easier to do so.

For one, NLSIU Bangalore, NUJS Kolkata and NLU Delhi have committed to giving tuition fee waivers to IDIA students.

Second, Roy said, it has been easier to fundraise for scholars placed at the top NLUs. In part, that is because the older NLUs have more alumni, who may be more keen to sponsor students at their alma mater,

However, in several cases, donors have also come forward to sponsor students with compelling stories at other, younger NLUs such as NUSRL Ranchi.

Furthermore, many IDIA scholars who did not crack the Common Law Admission Test (CLAT) for admission to an NLU, would go on to take (and succeed at) entrance tests at other non-national universities or institutions.

IDIA’s latest batch consisted of nine to 10 NLU entrants.

Final stages

At CAN, once the scrutiny committee had made its selection, its report would be forwarded to the foundation, which would be vetted by senior advocates Vikramjeet Banerjee and Gopal Sankaranarayanan (who are both NLSIU Bangalore graduates).

Then the senior counsel donors would be given the list, who would be requested to release the promised amounts, which would be handed over in a ceremony as cheques to the successful applicants at a ceremony with two or three sitting chief justices, said Gupta.

That said, the question of Project Eklavya’s scaleability is yet to be established, and the risk remains that this may discourage NLUs from setting up their own robust scholarship programmes.

In future years, successful candidates may also re-apply to get continued support, according to Gupta, in-part dealing with the issue of this only being a temporary band-aid.

Next steps

But Project Eklavya is just the first stage for CAN.

“We’ll be learning every year,” said Gupta, noting that whatever CAN learns from its pilot will be funnelled into Project Dhananjay.

Project Dhananjay would aim to make the entrance to the bar, which is notoriously financially unattractive at first, easier for graduates.

Gupta said: “All students who are otherwise meritorious but do not come into court practice or litigation purely because of financial reasons, or who may not be able to place themselves in practice, we plant them with some good senior counsel or filing office, and we will pay them a stipend, one year, of Rs 15,000 a month.”

The senior counsel or office would be requested to match that amount, so those selected could expect to start out at stipends of up to Rs 35,000, according Gupta.

Lobbying for NLUs?

For now, trying to get the central government to loosen its purse strings (such as by the unlikely prospect of it nationalising NLUs) is not on CAN’s agenda.

“We ourselves are a nascent organisation, our primary concern is that we should be able to fund our students,” said Gupta. But, once CAN had the “connect in the judiciary and the executive”, a primary objective of CAN could be to get funding for NLUs equivalent to what India Institutes of Technology or Management (IITs and IIMs) received from the centre.

“They [IITs and IIMs] get annual grants from say, what I have been told, Rs 30 to 40 crore each. Our focus would be that law is a fundamental part of society.”

Improving the quality of legal education would “contribute phenomenally” to governance, he noted. “Any developing country, particularly third world country like India, can not afford to ignore NLUs.”

“Certain funds have to be earmarked, at least 50 crore Rupees to every NLU,” said Gupta, including perhaps in the way of support for weaker sections of society to study law.

“If the central government adopts all these things and starts earmarking funds, then organisations like CAN or IDIA would have no role at all,” he added. “That would be utopia.”

Comments

Guest 6 Nov 2019, 08:00
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Vikramjit Banerjee is from NLSIU but taught Constitutional Law at NUJS after securing an LLM from Leicester on a Chevening scholarship. Thanks to the machinations of a senior academic (then on lien from NBU Law Dept) who was ironically close to both Prof Menon and the Left leadership, Vikramjit and several others left en masse. For some years thereafter Vikramjit litigated in Calcutta HC and later shifted to Delhi where he had originally begun his practice after graduating from law school
Guest 6 Nov 2019, 12:12
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Bad reporting by LI by giving the wrong college for Vikramjit.
kianganz 6 Nov 2019, 12:13
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Thanks, have corrected that he is also NLSIU.
Guest 6 Nov 2019, 08:03
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Interesting to see senior advocates known for divergent political persuasions coming together for a promising cause. Why Ekalavya? I know the story but I wanted to know from CAN founders what's the connection. Same for Dhananjay?
Guest 6 Nov 2019, 13:16
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Ekalavya I guess because of the marginalised seeking education connection. Dhananjay can have several interpretations, not particularly sure which one applies here.
Guest 6 Nov 2019, 12:01
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There should be a pan-NLU association modelled on PAN-IIT and PAN-IIM. It should lobby for National status for NLUs and general improvement of faculty/infra/governance in NLUs.
Guest 6 Nov 2019, 12:02
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Sorry, but an unrecognised body formed by just a few people cannot give themselves a name like this. This is totally arbitrary and misleading. It must be formally sanctioned by the CLAT consortium and have VCs of NLUs as patron.
RGNUL-ite 7 Nov 2019, 10:01
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The moment you have VCs as Patrons, the body will be driven towards dysfunctionality.

Much like most of the NLUs are.
Guest 6 Nov 2019, 12:16
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The tiers are defined wrongly. It is misleading and jeopardises the aims of the scholarship programme I appreciate the NLIU students are doing good work, but that does not mean NLIU should be placed in the wrong tier. This is how it should be:

Tier 1: NLSIU Bangalore, Nalsar Hyderabad, NLU Delhi

Tier 2: NLIU Bhopal, NUJS Kolkata, NLU Jodhpur, GNLU Gandhinagar, MNLU Mumbai.

Tier 3: HNLU Raipur, RGNUL Patiala, RMLNLU Lucknow, Nuals Kochi, NLUO Cuttack, MNLU Nagpur.

Tier 4: CNLU Patna,, NUSRL Ranchi, NLUJA Guwahati, DSNLU Vishakhapatnam, MNLU Aurangabad,TNNLS Tiruchirapalli.

Tier 5: HPNLU Shimla, Dharamshastra National Law University Jabalpur, Dr. B.R. Ambedkar NLU Sonepat.
Guest 6 Nov 2019, 13:17
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Are you from Indian Railways?
Guest 6 Nov 2019, 14:27
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Why exactly are MNLU Mumbai and Nagpur so high in your rankings without a single batch having graduated? This entire ranking seems way more arbitrary than the one done by CAN Foundation. That ranking seems reasonably well-thought of to me. "This is how it should be" without any reasonable justification is just "this is my arbitrary opinion".
Rajen 22 Nov 2019, 12:53
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Because Mumbai has super advantage of superb location and Nagpur is good in marketing and PR work.
Guest 22 Nov 2019, 13:22
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If location is the be-all and end-all, then all the law colleges in Delhi and Mumbai should be in this list. More in Bangalore too.
Observer 7 Nov 2019, 03:23
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We are tired by this tiers system. It seems some way or other way disrespectful. Students must desist these tiers because it amount to confining or inflating.
JSA 8 Nov 2019, 06:16
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Ranking wale baba to JSA ka pranaam! Kabhi law firms ki bhi ranking nikalo? Hame bhi to pata chale hum kis tier me hai!?
Darkseid 8 Nov 2019, 09:32
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We are only tired, not tiered.
Thanos 8 Nov 2019, 15:30
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Some of us are retired too.
Guest 6 Nov 2019, 12:33
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Why are JGLS and Symbi not included in the ranking? It is very biased. They are better than some of the NLUs listed and students should get financial assistance..
Guest 6 Nov 2019, 14:29
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Probably because the fees are too high to sustain a rolling scholarship with the donations they have.
L 6 Nov 2019, 16:38
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What happened to the NLU student Consortium which demanded Nationalisation of NLUs?? Disgusting to see their lethargy even after Maneka Gandhi raised the issue in Parliament.
Guest 6 Nov 2019, 16:41
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Please follow NIRF ranking for tier.wise breakup. It is the only official and recognised ranking.
Guest 6 Nov 2019, 16:44
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Why is no NLU professor on the board??? You can at least have alumni professors.
Sell 7 Nov 2019, 02:27
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No lol, they're all sell outs of their respective VCs. No individual thought or opinion or spine. :)
NLS Alumnus 7 Nov 2019, 08:00
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Would you care to explain this statement? I can think of several individuals currently teaching at the NLUs, who have consistently demonstrated independence and the willingness to question their administrative superiors. It is unfair to label them all as 'sell-outs'. If you want to make such claims, then you should provide evidence.
Guest 7 Nov 2019, 09:47
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It seems that most comments on LI are just mere 'opinions' without any evidence. Either everyone is butthurt about something or smoking weed that is from 3019. Just look at Comment #5, and then this.
Guest 7 Nov 2019, 09:54
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I agree. While NLU alums may not be teaching at NLIU, you have people like Sudhir and Esther at NLSIU and Sid Chauhan at NALSAR. This so-called confederation shook have invited them to come on board. It seems like some people just got together and formed an NGO with their close friends, instead of opening a wider consultation. Why was the model for PAN IIT and PAN IIM not followed?
Guest 7 Nov 2019, 09:44
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Anonymous commentators accusing others of not having spines? Double LoL!
Guest 7 Nov 2019, 10:43
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In 2015, Bar & Bench had done an NLU faculty ranking + an assessment of each NLU. NLUJ was placed in the same tier as NLSIU, NALSAR and NLUD in terms of faculty:student ratio, while NLIU was placed in the top tier in terms of faculty size.

https://barandbench.com/law-school-insights-faculty-special-who-has-best-faculty/
https://barandbench.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Compendium2016_11.pdf
Guest 11 Nov 2019, 15:14
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Kian, pls give updates on who has applied for NLUD and TNNLU VCship. Rumours say Nandimath has applied for both.
Guest 11 Nov 2019, 18:24
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Kyun bhai, ladki ki shaadi karana hai kya unse? You aren't part of the search or selection committees, so your opinions don't matter in the selection process. Once someone has been selected, you'd get to know. Tabtak thand rakh!
Guest 12 Nov 2019, 17:32
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Next NLUD VC likely to assume office on 1 Jan.
Guest 12 Nov 2019, 18:39
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December 25 would have been better. Along with Santa.
Guest 13 Nov 2019, 11:17
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Can LI tell us if NLUs have received this letter? Big news if they have.

https://theprint.in/india/education/like-iits-and-iims-ugc-wants-its-institutes-to-take-alumni-help-for-placement-funding/319999/
Bleeding Heart Liberal 13 Nov 2019, 12:55
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FM has apparently applied for NLUD VC position. So has PJS. It doesn't really matter who all have applied because "names" magically appear. History keeps repeating itself because some things never change - lobbying and politicking

Ignoring the protestations of a saffron troll, I find it amusing that FM is openly in support of student protests but goes incommunicado when protests erupt in NLUs. Worse he tried to defend his good friend PJS and lobbied for SSS (CNLU VC position). In both instances FM was fully aware of their spotty records. FM supported SSS despite the send off at NLIU.

FM also diluted the URC Report against his friend PIB. I am reliably told that had it not been for the doggedness of the students there and damning evidence and a few brave faculty members who spoke out, the URC Report would have been even more wishy-washy.

How is it that FM (as URC member) who had access to all the university records did not discover the instances of corruption and cover-ups that students later exposed?

While saffron trolls should be rightly ignored maybe it is also time to scrutinize what our liberal darlings "actually" do - FM, SK, DYC etc (not suggesting parity)
Guest 13 Nov 2019, 13:20
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After today's SC RTI ruling an application to the office of the Chancellor can be filed demanding the list of applicants and their CVs.
PJ 4 VC 13 Nov 2019, 13:29
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PJ>FM on paper. He has more publications in the form of books and journals + seniority. FM mainly writes web articles.
Guest 13 Nov 2019, 13:19
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Today's SC ruling that office of CJI falls under RTI is very important for NLUs. We can now file RTIs demanding records of the VC appointment process. For ones already appointed, we can seek details of the full list of applicants and their CVs
Guest 13 Nov 2019, 15:25
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You could have got that list by simply sending RTIs to the respective NLUs even before this. The CVs wouldn't have fallen within the ambit of RTI though.
Guest 13 Nov 2019, 13:25
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Is it true that Faizan Mustafa has applied for NLUD VCship? If yes, it means three things:

1) He is eyeing a powerful post in Delhi in future, when the BJP is booted out. eg Law Commission chairmanship, Rajya Sabha nominated MP, even judgeship as a jurist.

2) NLUD can truly be called #2 after NLSIU. NIRF is vindicated.

3) NALSAR VC post becomes vacant. Like NLSIU students, NALSAR students mat demand an alum. Or maybe Dhanda.
Top secret 13 Nov 2019, 18:53
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According to an NLUD faculty member 26 people have applied for VC. He is not sure of all the names but says he heard that Faizan and Jaiswal have both applied. Apparently Faizan wants to leave Nalsar as the KCR govt is pushing for 50% domicile/backward quota and a second campus in Nizamabad.
Guest 14 Nov 2019, 05:39
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So has BimPa. And the current NLUO VC, who was earlier the Regi at NLUD.
Guest 13 Nov 2019, 19:33
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https://thewire.in/rights/hong-kong-protests-universities

Not suggesting equivalence between what's happening in HKG and here/JNU or student protests in NLU. The stakes are very different. But I wonder if NLU students even have a fraction of the resilience and doggedness that HKG students have shown since June 2019. Actually they have taken the lead even earlier as well.

No wonder nobody takes us seriously. We needn't stage protests and "throw tantrums" for everything. Equally, I am not sure if protesting for a particular VC necessarily makes sense (maybe it did in the short term for NLSIU) because the problems are systemic and cannot be solved by so-called charisma alone.

The point isn't about "protesting" sparingly or doing what Commies did best to run down WB. All stakeholders in NLU system need to inquire why are students and their concerns etc not taken seriously by the administrators who parasitically feed off student fees? And what explains poor oversight by governing body members "packed" with govt and judicial nominees?
Guest 14 Nov 2019, 12:50
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Bimal Patel has a good chance because of BJP backing.
Guest 14 Nov 2019, 16:24
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Likely rumour. Then again history is instructive. Apparently VCV, KS, PIB, NKC and SSS have also applied.
Guest 15 Nov 2019, 01:31
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NKC has not. Nor has PIB. VCV has.
Guest 15 Nov 2019, 01:25
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Kian, cannot you get the names of NLUD VC applicants through sources? It should be publicly disclosed anyway. So far we just have rumours saying Jaiswal, Faizan Mustafa and Bimal Patel have applied.
Guest 15 Nov 2019, 10:13
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NKC was rejected even by Ranchi. Why will he apply? Doubt if VCV has applied. Unlikely for an NLU VC to leave so soon.
Guest 15 Nov 2019, 12:24
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VCV has indeed applied. NKC seems happy enough at NUJS for the moment. By your logic though, all of these candidates have been rejected at one or another NLU earlier. Therefore only fresh candidates should apply. Not that it would be necessarily a bad thing now, mind you.
Guest 15 Nov 2019, 12:43
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Isn't that a bit of a double standard on your part? If VCV won't apply because he has joined an NLU recently, so has NKC. If NKC has been rejected by other NLUs in the past, so has VCV.
Guest 15 Nov 2019, 14:42
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VCV has NOT applied. This is fake news being spread by NKC chelas who want to perpetuate the falsehood that VCV would not have been a good VC for NUJS as he would have left for NLUD soon.
Guest 15 Nov 2019, 15:16
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Wow, what a contrived conspiracy theory! You should try writing fiction, man! I can bet not even 5% of the readers would have thought of this till you mentioned it.
Guest 15 Nov 2019, 15:18
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@24: Since you are saying this with so much certainty, do you know who the other applicants are too? If so, care to share?
Guest 15 Nov 2019, 16:33
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VCV is seen as a "migratory bird". He had a short "founding" stint at IIT-KGP Law and most recently even at Bennett Law. It shouldn't be surprising if he is on the move again. HNLU has had this experience with PSJ before. NLUO had musical chairs (including a short stint by FM) till SKD got installed.

It was well known on NUJS campus that the state govt for political reasons wanted a "Bengali VC" (that was the reason given to torpedo MKS). Since quality inspection etc isn't their forte only later did they realize the difficulty in getting a "Bengali VC" who had impeccable credentials. Then again, the state govt mostly wanted "control" to finish what PIB couldn't deliver. Lord Taluk delivered (domicile quota amendment, burying inconvenient inquiries and but was attracting too much "heat" from various quarters. Also he wasn't the "Bengali academic" that the state govt wanted to showcase.

NKC was declined by RMLNLU, MNLU Mumbai and NLU Ranchi. Those are the known rejections. Twice earlier, NKC was declined for Professorial position at NUJS, including once by Prof MP Singh. When NKC couldn't become the head of IIT KGP Law, Prof NL Mitra facilitated his appointment as Director of KIIT Law (since FM moved to NLUO).

Although NKC went Green from Red, he is nervous about the next coat that he may need to wear. And hence the apparent hedging although he realizes that Delhi is sure to reject him. Word is that FM was asked to apply by his "friends" who did not want another SK to happen at NLUD since that may start a domino effect. So it can be speculated that while candidates such as NKC, SSS etc may get tossed their applications are reducing the field for young Turks.

It will be interesting to see what developments take place in "NLU universe" after Justice Bobde takes over. He was reportedly instrumental in bringing finality to SK appointment at NLSIU.
Guest 15 Nov 2019, 17:40
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I don't know of NKC as a person, but he used to be the head of KIIT law school and it's true that the university there did get recognised as an IOE during that time. Regardless of his credentials, some credit should go to the guy for that. That's more than any NLU VC, past or present, has managed to achieve yet. But I do hope someone good gets into NLUD. They have successfully started the belief in law school circuit that you need to focus on research too, only teaching and placements won't do in the long run. I'd hate to see someone take over the place and run it to ground after that. I have heard lot of adverse things about RS too, but nothing succeeds like success. NLUD is probably the only NLU established in the last decade that's been doing so well.
Turtle 15 Nov 2019, 20:27
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Excellent post and spot on, but just one correction: he was not angling to be head of the IIT law school as that would have been impossible. Rather, he wanted to convert his part-time, once a week visiting prof on contract status to a full-time prof status. Not only was it denied by the IIT admin (who are non-law people) but the part-time status (which was done on Mitra's request) was also scrapped. So he went to KIIT where Mitra was Chancellor.

Another point: There is nothing wrong with a Bengali VC per se, but the question is who you are appointing. There are good law profs from Bengal who teach overseas and a few at Jindal (including NLU alumni), but such people will be fiercely opposed by the TMC. Too bad that the SJA doesn't care any more.
Guest 16 Nov 2019, 04:26
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Which Bengali law professor teaching at Jindal is senior enough for a VC position? Moreover, what are their respective claims to fame exactly? Haven't heard of any NLU alumni teaching there who's a sterling academic or administrator. If a teacher's students are any indicator of his quality, then that doesn't augur well for them either.
Turtle 16 Nov 2019, 09:50
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Read carefully. I said: "good law profs from Bengal who teach overseas and a few at Jindal (including NLU alumni)"

"from Bengal" does not necessarily mean Bengali ffs. But even then, there are people both abroad and at Jindal, both Bengali and non-Bengali, but all from Bengal, who are of professor rank. Too bad if you aren't aware of them. Shows how little you know.
Guest 16 Nov 2019, 11:41
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It's interesting how you wrote so many things, but avoided addressing the actual questions, viz. who are these faculty at Jindal, what's their claim to fame etc. I'm aware of the ones teaching abroad. Simply being a professor doesn't make you senior enough for a VC position, by the way. You have to have served as one for at least some time. And I consider all people from Bengal as Bengalis, it's a geographical adjective, not a linguistic one. That actually showed your ignorance, not mine. Even Bangladeshis speak the language, but they aren't Bengalis.
Guest 15 Nov 2019, 20:42
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KIIT was among the several pvt/deemed to be universities that took off under Arjun Singh's reign (as if Bhopal Gas tragedy wasn't enough for this Family courtier). Later once this AS exited MHRD and under the glare of SC, investigations and quality audits started. Given that different palms had been greased, the ones that had deeper pockets and political connections survived.

KIIT was among the universities that did not significantly meet UGC standards etc. In a different audit it was blacklisted. But it had deep connections across the board and to its credit it managed to pull off certain strategic hires including retiring UGC honchos who sang a different tune as soon the crossover was complete. And that case? The SC did what it does best when powerful interests are involved (including recently)

Nothing takes away the fact that KIIT is now IoE tagged but we all know how that process went apart from the IITs, BITS and IISc. And we now have ten years to see how the process unfolds.

KIIT as a "university" got the IoE tag and we do not have info on how far KIIT Law contributed to it. Among pvt outfits, KIIT has a decent IT, Biotech, Social Work and Med depts. Those depts get the most students and placements.

NKC needn't be denied credit. But why attribute without clear factual basis. His rejections elsewhere are not hearsay. Also why not come by NUJS and have a Hard Talk with NKC. See how he fares assuming that he would even agree to be interviewed.
Guest 16 Nov 2019, 02:38
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From what the students are saying, he doesn't seem to be doing too badly at present. Remains to be seen. Certainly has achieved more than what Sudhir has done in his first month. Much more open to listening to students and their problems. That's something VCs at NUJS have always done better, barring PIB and that interim guy after him.
Guest 16 Nov 2019, 02:40
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The clear factual basis is that his department, along with the rest of the university, got the IOE status. It's all the rest that you've said that is lacking in hard facts. Most of it reads as plain insinuation, regardless of how much of a knowledgeable insider you may wish to sound like.
Guest 16 Nov 2019, 03:52
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Of course a good VC or academic can be Bengali. But the WB govt insisted on making "Bengali" as the preeminent qualification. There was a lot of talk that the initial "Bengali VC" choice was SS Chatterjee due to his supposed personal affinity to CM. But he had such a rotten record that they settled on NKC (because there weren't any more politically safe "Bengali" choices left)

Not sure NKC was only looking to secure a Professorial position at IIT KGP Law. The reasoning offered doesn't fly. After all VCV, SVJ (from NLSIU) and later KI Vibhute (Pune Law) headed KGP Law and none had formal "techno" backgrounds. That said none of these individuals lasted long.
Turtle 16 Nov 2019, 09:54
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Trust me, NKC was never in contention for Directorship. There was an interim period between VCV and SVJ from NLSIU, but even in this period it was not possible. He wanted a permanent job, which is a very cushy job at IIT and IIM, but he was kept only as a visiting professor once a week to teach criminal law, on a contract.
Guest 16 Nov 2019, 11:43
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Why should we trust you exactly? Because of the inherent honesty that you are renowned for? It's funny how people often forget that they are commenting anonymously here.
Guest 16 Nov 2019, 10:08
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Kian, please delete these fake news comments. Neither FM nor VCV nor NKC have applied for NLUD VCship. Why are you allowing fake news and cheapening this website??
Guest 16 Nov 2019, 11:45
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Because of the failing economy and inflation. Also, how do you know they haven't applied? Do you have the list of people who have applied? If so, please share it with us. If not, are you then in gossiping terms with all the three people you named?
Guest 16 Nov 2019, 18:10
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Faizan has not applied to NLUD, [...]. If you want to spread rumours spread sensible ones.
Guest 17 Nov 2019, 06:19
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Kian, the standard of comments here has been plummeting for a long time now irrevocably as it is. At least try to censor the obvious name-callings, even you don't do anything about the political propaganda, muckraking and similar.
kianganz 17 Nov 2019, 07:56
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Thanks, we've moderated some comments. If there are any specific ones that are name-calling, etc, please hit the 'Report to LI' button and submit a report: it only takes a few seconds.
Guest 18 Nov 2019, 08:57
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https://www.telegraphindia.com/states/west-bengal/rabindra-bharati-university-teachers-move-against-probe-report/cid/1720029?ref=calcutta_home-template

This is how inquiries will be concluded under NKC. To be fair, this is how most inquiries have taken place in NUJS in the past and possibly in other NLUs as well. Goodness knows what happened to past inquiries in RMLNLU, NLIU, NALSAR etc reported by Kian and others elsewhere. Interestingly, SK who knows how inquiries get "killed off" didn't even begin one into the large financial deficits across several years.

No need to believe me. Why not ask NKC and NLU administrators everywhere?
Guest 18 Nov 2019, 09:21
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Thank you for regaling us with a steady and regular newsletter about the daily affairs of random Bengal colleges.
Guest 18 Nov 2019, 09:57
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The so-called glory days of Bengal have waned but methinks the commentator is punning on something Gokhale presciently opined once: What Bengal thinks today, India thinks tomorrow.

After all NUJS was started by Prof Menon after the successful NLSIU experiment. And till the lost decade started under Prof Bhat, NUJS was doing really well. I think there is a cautionary tale in what politics, parochialism and self-serving admin and faculty can do to a institution which had a promising start.
Guest 18 Nov 2019, 10:11
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Not to mention the changing demographics and priorities of the students. All the NLUs are ailing from all the factors that you mentioned plus this one. Some of the rot is just more visible than others. We are not creating or nurturing good human beings for the most part, let alone good lawyers.
Guest 18 Nov 2019, 11:09
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Guys, what happened to the #NationaliseNLUs movement and Consortium of NLU students? We see JNU students disrupting an entire city and Hong Kong students facing bullets, but it seems NLU students only make memes on Facebook.
Guest 18 Nov 2019, 11:42
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You answered your own question I believe.
Yo yo hani is bac 20 Nov 2019, 11:51
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guest chec todays govt of india reply in parliament. There is no plan to nationalise NLU and best thing, R.S Prasad is consulting to figure out how many nlus are fun-ctioning in the county. They dont have money to maintain JNU and we thought they will nationalise NLUs
Guest 18 Nov 2019, 20:16
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Maybe it should be what Bengal thinks (or does) today, other Indian states shouldn't do tomorrow (or ever). The non-interference of the state in VC selections at HNLU and NLSIU ensured better results. Hopefully, NLUD and TNNLS will also get good VCs.

Not suggesting that only in Bengal hallowed institutions are hollowed out. But it certainly has set benchmarks in this field especially when many other states did not have head start of having hallowed institutions.

Will be interesting to hear the yarns that will be spun by certain folks here https://web.iima.ac.in/calendar/event/law-and-legal-institutions-in-contemporary-india-in-honour-of-n-r-madhava-menon/
Guest 19 Nov 2019, 04:44
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HNLU and NLSIU students didn't actively seek state intervention when their earlier VCs weren't performing up to expected standards. Once you open the door by an inch for the government, it will keep trying to kick the rest of the door down until it has its way. It doesn't matter which party is in power, they are all the same.
Guest 19 Nov 2019, 18:44
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Once again, Karan Thapar describes Faizan Mustafa as follows: "Professor Mustafa, one of India’s foremost experts on the constitution..."

It's unfortunate that many people who are a lot more qualified and have far superior publication records do not get such praise as they are not media savvy and lack PR.

https://thewire.in/law/watch-parts-of-ayodhya-judgment-laughable-different-standards-of-proof-unfair
Guest 20 Nov 2019, 02:49
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That's the scene across the entire world. Jo dikhta hai, wohi bikta hai!
Guest 20 Nov 2019, 11:55
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Yes, there could be many better than him.
But then how many of them will be able to articulate better than him on Hindi channels? His name became a household name because he started with hindi channels, and he has done it very well (Objectively, otherwise why he is always invited at 9pm)