Download parts of 3-judge Nalsar report slamming exam leaks, student drowning, mooting favouritism, law school rankings & more

Report in the matter of Nalsar: Not flattering
Report in the matter of Nalsar: Not flattering
Exclusive: Nalsar Hyderabad yesterday responded to Legally India’s Right to Information (RTI) request of 12 January, disclosing part of the highly critical September 2011 report of the three-judge committee headed by Justice Syed Shah Mohammed Quadri investigating the college.

Three weeks after Legally India’s RTI application was sent via email and by next-day courier, and one day after the Times of India published excerpts from the report reportedly stumbled across by “state auditors”, Nalsar public information officer B Nagalakshmi and RTI appellate authority and registrar professor Sridhar Acharyulu emailed Legally India a partial copy of the report of around 90 pages. More than 50 pages of the report were not sent to Legally India via the internet, due to apparent technical difficulties relating to the scanning process and the size of the file.

Acharyulu promised to send Legally India a full hardcopy of the report, as soon as the courier fees were remitted to Nalsar by Legally India.

In addition to the points reported by Times of India on Tuesday concerning financial irregularities, awarding building and other contracts as favour, the excerpts from the report prepared for the college’s chancellor, the former Andhra Pradesh Chief Justice, dealt at length with issues such as grievances in the Nalsar student body with vice chancellor Veer Singh.

[Download the partial copy of the report received by Legally India to date here]

VC’s pets

The report highlighted complaints from students and faculty about the “disproportionately concentrated” power in the office of the vice chancellor (VC), to make decisions ranging “from granting funds for various contests to granting permission to leave campus, from allowing organization of a national debate to permitting students to open the recreation room and use the drum kit therein”.

On the VC’s grant of academic leave it mentioned: “Requests by students known to him are viewed more favourably than those unknown to him … the merit of the application doesn’t matter as much as the person who would lay that application before the concerned authority.”

Four keys, but one dismissal

The report alleged a “complete lack of security in ensuring secrecy of the question papers for the final semester examinations”, referring to the leakage of question papers of the internal April 2011 examination. Keys to the examination room were available with the VC, registrar, examination section in charge and cleaning staff.

It noted in particular: “Curiously it was only the office assistant cum driver who was dismissed from service. Four students involved in this unsavory episode, were expelled from the University. The pay of the Sr. Assistant (Examination) was reduced by four annual increments, and the Jr. Assistant in the examination section was warned.”

On the absence of measures against the VC and other administrators, it added: “Except for reconstitution of the examination committee, none of the faculty were faulted for such serious lapses in leakage of the final semester examination question papers. Neither the examination committee, nor any one else in upper echelons of administration, were held accountable, let alone any action taken against them”.

Sub-dictatorship

Quadri’s committee reported that it encountered across a “widespread belief” among faculty and students that Nalsar proctor and professor Vijender Kumar “has been accorded favoured treatment by the Vice-chancellor”.

There was particular dissatisfaction among students over Kumar’s role as convener of the moot court committee. The report noted: “he identifies and selects students for participation in moot court competitions, both within the country and abroad … there is intense competition among students to participate in moot courts”.

“Several students have expressed their reservation on the manner of selection, for participation in moot courts, by the Moot Court Committee. Allegations of favouritism, in selecting students for participation in moot Courts, have also been leveled against Prof. Vijender Kumar.”

On Kumar’s tenure as chief warden in June-August 2008, the report noted: “…students of the 2005-2010 batch leveled serious allegations against him in their letter dated 08.08.2008 addressed to the then Chancellor, NALSAR”.

In this letter the students complained that “many students had been victimized by Prof. Vijender Kumar, the then Convener of the examination committee, even in his capacity as a teacher. A few such instances were cited. They also complained that a section of students, belonging to the reserved category, had been discriminated against by the said Convener, the concerned students were called to his chamber privately and were humiliated; and they were openly threatened that they would fail their examinations”.

“They also referred to ‘Child Rights and Social Duties’ consultation organized by NALSAR, for which academic leave of the student volunteers were approved by the faculty concerned and the Registrar. However the same was rejected by Prof. Vijender Kumar, the then Convener, without assigning any reasons”, added the report on the letter.

The report also mentioned the “First NALSAR Academic Review, 2009” which rated Kumar’s teaching abilities highly despite student complaints demanding his speedy removal from the examination committee and from chief warden’s post as “they had lost all confidence” in him.

Kumar did not return Legally India’s calls for comments two weeks ago.

Attitude problem?

“What’ll you do by viewing a corpse?” was Veer Singh’s alleged retort to requests for a college bus for those who wished to travel to the mortuary to pay their last respects to Nalsar student Mahesh, revealed the report.

Mahesh had died by drowning in Nalsar’s club swimming pool in June 2011, and the report highlighted that “the administration had seriously erred in informing the boy’s parents that their son had drowned in an intoxicated state, without even inserting an element of uncertainty into the pronouncement”.

The committee was informed that “the deceased student’s friends had testified, and the preliminary autopsy reports indicated, that the said student had not consumed alcohol that evening”.

The report alleged: “When they [students] expressed their grievance to the Vice-Chancellor, and requested that they be granted an additional day, (apart from the day after Mahesh’s parting), for mourning, the Vice-Chancellor had informed them ‘If your batch-mate decides to drink at 16:30 hours and then leaps into a well, what am I to do? You all killed him, why should I give you a day off?”

A jumbled state of affairs

While to a large part voicing student woes, the report also examined alleged irregular book-keeping at Nalsar, particularly in Nalsar’s conduct of the Common Law Admissions Test (CLAT) 2009.

On payment of honorariums to Nalsar staff for CLAT, the report stated: “The note put up for the approval of the Vice-chancellor, (which was approved by the Vice-chancellor on 24.9.2009), records that ‘the total amount of honorarium for CLAT-2009 staff was included in the statement of accounts which the Core Committee has approved in its meeting held on 18th September, 2009’.”

But what was actually part of the record of the 18 September meeting was merely a detailed statement of accounts, including a detailed statement of CLAT-related expenditure, which was approved before honorarium payments were made later in November, 2009, according to the report.

“That certain faculty members were paid honorarium for CLAT-2009 is not the issue. What is of concern is the lack of transparency in furnishing details thereof either in the schedule to the balance sheet or in the income and expenditure account of NALSAR for the financial year 2009-10”, adds the report.

Singh did not respond to an email seeking comments on the report yesterday.

Update: [thanks to reader comment abc for reminding us, had forgotten to include the law school ranking part of the report]

Law school rankling?

The report draws attention to “wasteful expenditure incurred” on an advertisement by Nalsar in India Today’s magazine issue that ranked the university as Indians number one law school, as reported by Legally India at the time.

“‘India-Today’, July 18th 2011 issue, carries details of the ‘India Today – Neilson’ survey of the top 10 law colleges in the country among whom NALSAR, Hyderabad is shown as No. 1. Curiously, the very same issue carries a one page advertisement by NALSAR,” highlighted the report.

The report further claimed Nalsar had a practice of advertising in those issues of India Today which carry the ratings for top 10 to 25 law colleges in India, since 2006-07, adding that “National Law School, Bangalore does not incur such needless advertisement expenditure”.

Legally India had reported at the time that NLIU Bhopal and Symbiosis Pune also had full-page advertisements, which were ranked at third and fifth respectively.

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Comments

Anna 2 Feb 2012, 02:27
+6 -1
LI please publish the report regarding working of NLS by KT thomas commission...let everyone know the truth
Abhir 2 Feb 2012, 02:54
+3 -0
it is very shocking that nothing in the report is there about backdoor entrants at nalsar. it is an open secret.
abc 2 Feb 2012, 03:39
+3 -0
Some of the acts mentioned in the report are criminal offences. The faculty invovled should be arrested at once. Nalsar students should use Subramaniam Swamy's case as a precedent and seek prosecution of these individuals.
Anna 2 Feb 2012, 04:21
+2 -1
Why didn't LI used RTI to make KT thomas commission report pubilc why was it not publicized and put on facebook ...rather it invited former NLS students to rubbish the claims of the Commission ...i wish i could use RTI and know LI source of funding
Kejriwal 2 Feb 2012, 05:54
+7 -0
Annaji, that was Bar and Bench which invited comments from NLS people, reason being Bar and Bench is run by NLS Alumni, and they would not do anything which is against their own institution
NLUssssssss 2 Feb 2012, 11:14
+1 -0
So, annaji,keep yourself updated about who called whom, instead of throwing words in air....
In House Counsel 2 Feb 2012, 13:39
+2 -0
I love how instead of accepting valid criticism of a law school, immediately rush to throw muck on other law schools. How very Gandhian!
legeag 2 Feb 2012, 05:44
+3 -0
all blame should be apportioned, the committee seemed to have crucified the present vc veer singh, but some blame would also fall on the erstwhile vc of nalsar prof ranveer singh. if action is commenced on prof. veer singh, they should also be started against prof. ranveer singh.
abc 2 Feb 2012, 06:10
+9 -0
Kian, you missed out the most interesting part of teh report. This truth had to be exposed some day -

"'India- Today', July 18th 2011 issue, carries details of the 'India Today - Neilson' survey of the Lop 10 law colleges in the country among whom NALSAR, Hyderabad is shown as No.1. Curiously, the very same issue carries a one page advertisement by NALSAR. Ever since 2006-07, NALSAR has been issuing advertisements in "India Today". The advertisements, invariably, appear in the very same issue in which the top 10 or 25 law colleges in India are rated. For the year 2006-07, "India-Today" issue dated 5.6.2006 carries an impact feature of two pages. For this advertisement feature, NALSAR paid Rs.8.00 lakhs, (Rs.7.91,636 after deducting TDS), vide Cheque No.241452 dated 13.6.2006. The said issue lists the top 10 law colleges in the country among whom NALSAR is rated as No.1.
Dont you know 2 Feb 2012, 06:33
+10 -0
It is rumoured that India Today had the audacity to approach NLUs offering a rank (in exchange of payment of a "fee" for an ad with the magazine). One VC had the India Today team literally kicked out of campus ... and didnt make it to the top list ;) ha ha ha.
abc 2 Feb 2012, 07:16
+6 -0
We always knew. But when we spoke about it, people thought we were sour losers. Now, there is a neutral indepndent judicial committee saying the same thing we have known for ages.
PW 2 Feb 2012, 13:05
+6 -0
it was nujs and vc was mp singh
India Today thrown out 3 Feb 2012, 06:21
+3 -0
MP Singh stuff is new. In the early days of this ranking saga, it was Dr. NL Mitra of NLU Jodhpur who had them thrown out.
Daddy 3 Feb 2012, 13:55
+1 -0
[quote name="India Today thrown out"]MP Singh stuff is new. In the early days of this ranking saga, it was Dr. NL Mitra of NLU Jodhpur who had them thrown out.[/quote]

NLU Jodhpur have always had awesome VC's.
abc 2 Feb 2012, 06:12
+0 -0
"We are informed that, unlike NALSAR, the National Law School, Bangalore does not incur such needless advertisement expenditure."

Read the part on advertisement to see a detailed statement of howmuch NALSAR paid India Today each year and what the ranking has been in each of those years.
Lawyer 2 Feb 2012, 06:16
+1 -0
I completely agree with #1, backdoor entrants were very common amongst the students at NALSAR prior to CLAT. Numerous lawyers today (who are graduates of NALSAR) proudly claim to have gained admission to NALSAR purely on the basis of their relations with a particular governing council member.
NALSAR 2 Feb 2012, 07:18
+2 -0
"There was particular dissatisfaction among students over Kumar’s role as convener of the moot court committee. The report noted: “he identifies and selects students for participation in moot court competitions, both within the country and abroad … there is intense competition among students to participate in moot courts”.

“Several students have expressed their reservation on the manner of selection, for participation in moot courts, by the Moot Court Committee. Allegations of favouritism, in selecting students for participation in moot Courts, have also been leveled against Prof. Vijender Kumar.”

On Kumar’s tenure as chief warden in June-August 2008, the report noted: “…students of the 2005-2010 batch leveled serious allegations against him in their letter dated 08.08.2008 addressed to the then Chancellor, NALSAR”. "

Because ofcourse there is no MCC and no Selection Moot or Open Challenges.

Administrative lapses or not, this 'report' looks like a ccp from a student plaint and not the result of an enquiry.

I'm surprised LI chose to spend so much space on something that is so obviously flawed.
Mooting in NALSAR is almost exclusively organised by the student body and the selection procedure is really not in any faculty member's hands.
GLC 2 Feb 2012, 07:22
+1 -0
NALSAR IS A SHAM LIKE EVERY OTHER LAW COLLEGE IN THIS COUNTRY.......SO GLAD ITS COME TO LIGHT
Anay 2 Feb 2012, 09:06
+0 -0
Im sure there are back door entrants - no wonder some of their students are fairly 'blunt'!
NLIU,Bhopal 2 Feb 2012, 09:36
+1 -0
It was about time that such smoke screen was taken off from so called top law schools. Offering money to buy yourself a rank in India Today? financial mismanagement, exam leaks and what not! instead of blaming others and making silly statements based on some stupid Nalsar pride student body should just wake up and clean up the system.
We did have our share of controversy but unlike this students were proactive in bringing the NLIU glory back.
Wake up students of NALSAR before its too late. Somedays when your juniors ask you "what were you doing when all this happened?", what are you going to say?
NALSARite 2 Feb 2012, 11:54
+3 -0
Have you forgotten the times of Prof V.S. Rekhi? your seniors had to protest for months to get any order in place. Administrative lapses happen everywhere. NLSIU was not content with Dr. Jayagovind's administration, and Dr. MP Singh mentioned how bad a state NUJS was in when he took over (farewell speech). We're having a bad time with the administration, admittedly. Now you can gloat like bitches or you can come up with similar measures in your school to see where the cancerous elements are.
I am past washing plates. 2 Feb 2012, 12:09
+1 -0
we will say " we did not follow Bhopal". Oh wait they have a law school there.
I love washing plates 2 Feb 2012, 18:36
+1 -0
A law school since 1997, ranking consistently higher (yes, in rankings published by other magazines also), successfully conducted CLAT in 2010 (sorry, no leaks. Favoritism not allowed here) If you don't know about this law school, no wonder you're an ignorant NALSARite.
NALSARite 3 Feb 2012, 02:17
+1 -0
Ranking higher?! Which ranking,Bhopal times? and as far as favoritism is concerned, I'd suggest you speak to some seniors from the 1st and 2nd batch. They'd be glad to tell you about how deep a pool of shit you were in (not that anything's changed). Manage to get some jobs, some decent post-grad degrees first.
NLIUite 4 Feb 2012, 05:36
+0 -0
1st and 2nd batch? Move on bro! It's been 10 years since our first batch passed out. Still living in 9/11 era? And these seniors by now probably have kids smarter than you.
LLM Student 2 Feb 2012, 09:42
+13 -0
What is RTI ???
BA-LLB Student 2 Feb 2012, 15:17
+1 -0
RTI stands for Real Time Innovations!
LLM Student 3 Feb 2012, 02:46
+1 -0
@ LLM Student: dude, are you serious? what question is this? which country are u in?!
Story of a tyrant 2 Feb 2012, 09:46
+3 -0
From the story, it seems that this Veer Singh fellow is an egomaniac fool who is doped on some power drug and has lost his marbles. Unfortunately, he is not the only rotten apple ... there are others. So here goes a story.

Meet Prof. Dr. [...]. Bitten by the same bug as Veer Singh, and a mean tyrant. After being a bull in a china shop at NALSAR, he went to other law schools to ply his trade. Our man used his powers, for the lack of a better expression, do a lot of shit. One lawschool kicked him out after the students commendably rose as one and squashed his b@ll$ despite resistance from executive council. His speciality is ruling in USSR style (possibly skills picked up while he was doing his PhD in USSR). He seems to "need" to perform his idiosyncrasies to survive. They can include imposing restrictions on when students can leave campus, what activities they can engage in academically or socially, how much marks which student should get and so on. To wrap up, his sanity may be judged by a story from a summer camp (organised by NUJS in partnership with some US Ivys) where he stated that the US is "capitalist" and have made education a business where teachers and knowledge can be "bought", while the Indian traditions recognise teachers as the "guru" whose feet students touch!

I am sure there are other maniacs and despots lurking out there. Ban them all!
Delhi Lawyer 2 Feb 2012, 10:39
+0 -0
I think its high time the law firms should also visit non-NLUs for recruitment. There is hardly any difference apart from few cream at NLUs who really do well !!
Badrinath Srinivasan 2 Feb 2012, 11:08
+0 -0
LI must be appreciated for taking the efforts in making the the Report public. Hope this episode results in transparency in the National Law Schools. It is also hoped that any measure to curb corruption/ impropriety etc does not affect the autonomy of the National Law Schools.

Would love to peruse through the Report that the above comments mention on NLSIU.

Also, are there such reports on other National Law Schools such as NUJS, NLIU, NLU etc?

Perhaps, it is time for the Chancellor of each National Law School to make public the details of expenditure on "advertising".
Heehaw 2 Feb 2012, 11:38
+1 -0
Hehe....NALSAR is f**ked!
nalsarite 2 Feb 2012, 12:11
+2 -0
I am personally so so happy that all the facts are public. Finally we can kick out these two incompetent insolent bastards and move ahead.
A clean up of any system is required. We are so happy that we could get everything out in the open and now we can cure the ills.
Even NLS had the KT Thomas report. It is good that we all can reflect and cure the evils and move ahead.

Aaaj toh daru party hoyenga!
Thomas Mathew 2 Feb 2012, 12:08
+3 -0
There should be a committee report for GNLU as well...let the world know what is going inside. There is so much political influence and corruption. The [...] is nothing less than a corrupt dictator. No student body in the university and the students don't really have a voice
GNLU Student 2 Feb 2012, 21:38
+1 -0
Completely agreed.

But, GNLU students do not protest at all.

In a way, GNLU is destined to be ruled under a dictatorship.
NLS alum 2 Feb 2012, 12:47
+9 -0
I am happy all this is coming to the fore. Systemic malaise needs to be corrected. NLS report was a good step in that direction. Instead of launching attacks on NALSAR appreciate the kids who went ahead and took on the administration. I salute you kids! Similar things happened in Law School - Jayagovind being a prime example. NUJS too had problems. It is imperative we reflect and address the ills. This is a step towards that.
Great going Kian!
XYZ 2 Feb 2012, 13:03
+2 -1
"Similar things happened in Law School" - Which Law School?
Nalsarite 2 Feb 2012, 16:06
+0 -0
Being Dhanda's minion doesn't mean you're right. The woman's been boycotted herself. Being smart doesn't make you right. Encouraging anarchy doesn't make you the best prospective Vice Chancellor either.
qwerty 2 Feb 2012, 13:17
+1 -0
Kian please publish a separate article on Nalsar paying India Today to be ranked # 1(which is mentioned in the report). Please also highlight the comment in the report immediately after this shcocking revelation:

"We are informed that, unlike NALSAR, the National
Law School, Bangalore does not incur such needless ) advertisemen t expenditure."

LOOOOL!! The verdict is now out. NSLIU is the undisputed leader, NALSAR is just a phoney.
Sohini Chatterjee 2 Feb 2012, 14:51
+9 -1
There will always be people who like to make themselves believe that they are better than others. So I'm not surprised how most people are reacting to this report. But it's simply pathetic how this is boiling down to my-law-school-is-better-than-yours debate. Because this is about us, the students. It doesn't matter which law school/college you belong to. What happened in NALSAR reflects an administrative cancer, a systemic malaise- as pointed out earlier. It could happen to your University tomorrow. So please don't use this opportunity to massage your collective egos and gloat about how your University is better.
Best of luck to the students of NALSAR.
XYZ 2 Feb 2012, 15:40
+2 -0
Its funny how an administrative report is being evaluated and interpreted to draw substantive conclusions about the merit and the calibre of NALSAR as a law school.

I guess the long standing ranking of NALSAR is not due to the fact that India Today rated it as one of the better colleges. It is because of the achievements which were made by the students.

Honestly speaking, before the CLAT had come, every year 5 to 6 students used to leave NUJS to join NALSAR. This was because entrance exams of NUJS used to take place before NALSAR. Trust me, most of the students if given an option would still take NALSAR over NUJS. Admittedly, NLS was preferred over NALSAR, but, NALSAR was a very clear preference over NUJS. India Today was not the reason behind these preferences, but, infrastructure, nation wide recognition of NALSAR and other nuanced details made students choose NALSAR over NUJS.

On a separate note, I would like to tell the present study body at NALSAR that this is a tough time which we are facing, but, till the time you can work hard and do well at the national and international level, all this would just be just so much of inconsequential gossip.

NALSARITE
PQR 2 Feb 2012, 17:34
+0 -0
NUJS was never the 2nd preference ever.

Before a few yeas, it was not even 3rd preference. It was not considered at all. It was considered before NLIU, Bhopal and NLU, Jodhpur.

But, with time, it has gained reputation drastically. Even until CLAT 2010, NLIU, Bhopal was preferred over NUJS. The fact that a few people prefer NUJS over NALSAR is not the factor which NUJS should be concerned.

The fact that it provided a challenge to the placements, acad, mooting of NLSIU and NALSAR [Placements were far better than NALSAR] is not something which NUJS should be concerned about. It should be NALSAR who should ponder why it is giving a challenge which it was not considered even a penny before NALSAR before a few years ago.
Alumni 2 Feb 2012, 16:08
+3 -0
Batch of 2011 NALSAR
1 Rhodes Scholar
1 Commonwealth Scholar
1 YoungIndia Scholar
1 Felix Scholar
1 Yale Law School (FULLY Funded)
1 Harvard Law School
3 Oxford University
1 New York University (NYU)
1 University of Berkeley

Placements at par with any other Law School in the country.
Indeed, NALSAR is going down! As if we care, the statistics don't show that!!!
PQR 2 Feb 2012, 17:40
+0 -0
Either is NALSAR is going down, or NUJS is coming up. There can be only two possibilities. Is it not true?
Anna 3 Feb 2012, 06:03
+2 -0
[quote name="PQR"]Either is NALSAR is going down, or NUJS is coming up. There can be only two possibilities. Is it not true?[/quote]
Don't be childish, get out of this law school fyt syndrome.Everything doesn't have to be about how some law school is going down or someone is better than other. Trust me you 'll not improve anything in your college posting such stupid comments on LI. NALSAR administration has hit a rough patch but its only a matter of time when it gets back on its feet, if you can't support your fellow students stay out of this issue completely. I am sure majority students at NUJS are not as stupid as you are, please don't force me to think otherwise.
PQR 3 Feb 2012, 10:48
+0 -0
[quote name="Anna"][quote name="PQR"]Either is NALSAR is going down, or NUJS is coming up. There can be only two possibilities. Is it not true?[/quote]
Don't be childish, get out of this[quote name="Anna"][quote name="PQR"]Either is NALSAR is going down, or NUJS is coming up. There can be only two possibilities. Is it not true?[/quote]
Don't be childish, get out of this law school fyt syndrome.Everything doesn't have to be about how some law school is going down or someone is better than other. Trust me you 'll not improve anything in your college posting such stupid comments on LI. NALSAR administration has hit a rough patch but its only a matter of time when it gets back on its feet, if you can't support your fellow students stay out of this issue completely. I am sure majority students at NUJS are not as stupid as you are, please don't force me to think otherwise.[/quote]


I apologise for the comment. I commented because of the cockiness shown by your juniors, every now and then.
GLC 3 Feb 2012, 10:59
+1 -0
none in litigation....wow...i must say NALSAR is the 'best'
Noojie 3 Feb 2012, 12:04
+1 -0
[quote name="GLC"]none in litigation....wow...i must say NALSAR is the 'best'[/quote]


It is a matter of "choice". Litigation does not necessarily make you better.
GLC 3 Feb 2012, 17:16
+0 -0
Choice for a law student is influenced by the surrounding culture.....in NLU's they ony talk about Corporate...there is no litigation exposure
Delhi Lawyer 3 Feb 2012, 18:33
+0 -0
So what ?
Not Veer Singhs fault 2 Feb 2012, 18:03
+4 -0
People who read the report will see that a majority of the allegations (especially those related to financial irregularities) are from the era before the present VC. It was when the new VC (and consequently new auditors) came in, that the problem was actually discovered. Noone seems to point this out.

Also, this really isn't about whether NALSAR is as good as NUJS or not. It's really only about whether a lot of the things that matter at university are going horribly wrong at NALSAR or not. So there's really no point in saying that NALSAR is going to the dogs. It is important that certain things be brought to the forefront though. The fact that NALSAR spent that much money on advertising, when NLS and NUJS didn't is an important fact to consider when we look at rankings (or as NALSAR-ITEs, we brag about or status as the best college in the country).
Nalsarite 3 Feb 2012, 00:58
+1 -0
I fell bad to read about the state affairs of my law school, however fell most law schools face similar issues! The students should remain to be unfazed by these allegations and just get on with it! It's tendered an unspoken truth in NalsariteI that the bigger the advert is the higher we summit. We may not be as good as NLS- only cause of their age and alumni reach but I believe today both universities produce some very fine lawyers and instead of always bickering who is número UNO -- we should work together cause end of the day we all end up on the same side of the coin!
Tejaswi 3 Feb 2012, 07:04
+5 -0
How is it that every report Legally India carries on any of the national law school always manages to degenerate into these pathetic mudslinging matches between the students of India's 'premier' law schools? It is downright embarrassing to see the kind of trash India's 'brightest' law students deem worthy to publish on a public forum.
That being said, NALSAR is not going to disappear into oblivion because of this. NLS and NUJS are going to continue to do well. We're all going to continue to get wonderful jobs, win those moots in exotic european countries, trail blaze our way into glory etc.
Obviously, things are going wrong, but let's react to this in a manner worthy of us. Lets be constructive, let's tell each other what happened to us and how we dealt with it. Not like this. This is just mortifying.
Vedu 3 Feb 2012, 07:34
+0 -0
I agree !
akash 3 Feb 2012, 12:55
+0 -0
I don't know whether to commiserate with LI or the inquiry panel. let' s take the issues one by one. as far as the leak was concerned, the fact that the exam papers leaked does not mean that everyone who had access to the exam room was guilty of leak. some must be chided for their negligence, but the leak is generally the handiwork of one or two at the most. I can't understand how the faculty can be held guilty just because his paper was leaked. Where is the question of leak when he has set the paper and can narrate it orally.take the issue of student drowning in the swimming pool at night. what can be the causes which we could speculate as the cause for the tragedy? murder, suicide, epileptic attack while swimming, overdose of drugs or drinking? there are only two palatable causes for the student community- epileptic attack (which can be attributed only if he already suffered from it) and drinking. going to the pool at the dead of the night is queer and i would say the VC was only being diplomatic. regarding the favoured faculty calling some students of priveleged background to his room and giving them a pep talk, everyone who has any relation with these institutions knows that certain class of students labour under the impression that it is the duty of the faculty to pass them and it is below their dignity to work for the same. As far as the allegation goes that the VC has favourites, well it is time for all to grow up. even the benches have favourites, it is part of human psyche that one tends to trust only a limited set and assignments will be granted or their alibi accepted because one regards them as trustworthy. this opinion is formed o the basis of prior experience, accomplishments, looks, observed behavioural patterns or plain psychophancy, but would be there. the allegation that one particular faculty member had been given two remunerative assignments boils down to trust unless the university rules bar it, which the panel did not find. All of us would welcome Nalsar not advertising India Today, but I find it odd that the beneficiaries of it should whine about it. all the write ups show that really you all are paid the moon for complete lack of common sense.
proud of 3 Feb 2012, 14:00
+0 -0
NLU Jodhpur is only college without scams and administration is best. So it should be rank 1.
Desert Rose 3 Feb 2012, 15:41
+1 -0
[quote name="proud of"]NLU Jodhpur is only college without scams and administration is best. So it should be rank 1.[/quote]


Just hear song "Desert" Rose. It is good one.
GLC 3 Feb 2012, 17:18
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Dude seriously.....the firm i work in....ur college student said...thet u have 'Drug tunnel" from where u guys get ur supply of srugs...give it time..the scams will comw to light
on drugs 4 Feb 2012, 20:51
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Every college has druggies.. Its a little more rampant in residential colleges like NLUs for obvious reasons..
NLUJODHPUR 4 Feb 2012, 20:42
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Every college has its scams. NLU Jodhpur and its VC just know how to resolve them internally without causing a brouhaha in public...
whaaa? 4 Feb 2012, 23:31
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Child, you must be in your first year. The fun is yet to start.

I will agree however that the current administration is the most active we have had. In a good way.
XYZ 3 Feb 2012, 15:10
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If thts the case.....then Vatican city should be ranked as the best country in the world.....u see its free of scams......haha
UJ 3 Feb 2012, 16:29
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Ahem.

Despite all the hullabaloo.

I really must commend my fellow students in NALSAR.
I am in a 'top'(whatever that means) NLU with the same issues as surfaced in NALSAR but unfortunately havent' surfaced.

The administration has too much power, and while some are intelligent, others are pathetic losers who would probably be unemployed if not on a cushy job as a teacher(which is ironical as the concepts of some are not much clearer than the students).

LI has taken up a nice initiative(and attracting website hits as reward).
Why not try this out in all NLU's.
Try and cross-check the words with ground reality, and many more interesting news might make it here.

Our NLU's are run on hard earned money of people, and if this is resulting in mismanagement, then not only LI, but other media must report such news.
JHANDA 3 Feb 2012, 17:48
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Lets hope all this results in our beloved Mata reaching the top of the hierarchy...and all you bacchhas..kindly stop problemetizing trivial issues...we can keep arguing till the cows go home..but the truth is that NALSAR shall rise like a phoenix from the ashes...HAIL DHANDA!!
ABCD 3 Feb 2012, 21:58
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Legally India is very evidently doing all this to promote NLS and NUJS by bringing NALSAR down. Legally India has become one of those sold TV channels which only broadcasts stories which are in the interest of some specific political parties.

I hope the young students while choosing their law school do appreciate this bias inherent in the working of this website.
kianganz 4 Feb 2012, 12:00
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Thanks for your comment but pray tell: exactly why in the world would LI have an interest in promoting NLS or NUJS over Nalsar?

Apart from lack of motive, I'd also be interested in any evidence that coverage of Nalsar in this matter is unfair or unwarranted?

Finally, do you really think that an administrative scandal of some sort, would affect the future choices of students?
for a change 4 Feb 2012, 13:46
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master kian cud you plz change ur display pic, from ages its the same...
Sandy 4 Feb 2012, 14:11
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^ Yeah, that's a more pressing matter! *rolls eyes*