First legal challenge to bar exam: six Gujarat law grads seek exemption

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Six law graduates have filed a writ petition challenging that the Bar Council of India’s (BCI) proposed all India bar exam should not prevent them from practising in courts.

The IANS news agency reported that Urshit Oza and five other 2009 law graduates filed an application in Gujarat High Court against the Ministry of Law and Justice. [Update: Oza was a student of LA Shah Law College, further details set out below]

The petitioners’ counsel Amit Panchal argued that while Oza and the others had graduated in the 2008-09 academic year, they had only “completed specialisation in 2009-10”, according to IANS.

Panchal submitted that the petitioners should be licenced to practice without passing the bar exam because 2008-09 should be counted as the effective date of their graduation, for the purposes of taking the bar exam, rather than 2010. The article did not explain whether “specialisation” was referring to an LLM degree or other further education or qualification. [Update: see below for details; LA Shah College operates an advocacy specialisation program in the third LLB year]

The BCI passed a resolution on 10 April 2010 that amended Rules 9, 10 and 11 under section 49(1)(ah) of the 1961 Advocates Act, which governs conditions for the right to practice.

The BCI’s resolution stated: “No advocate enrolled under section 24 of the Advocates Act, 1961 shall be entitled to practice under Chapter IV of the Advocates Act, 1961, unless such advocate successfully passes the All India Bar Examination conducted by the Bar Council of India.

“It is clarified that the Bar Examination shall be mandatory for all law students graduating from academic year 2009-2010 onwards and enrolled as advocates under Section 24 of the Advocates Act, 1961.”

The Gujarat writ petition is listed for hearing today (16 June) at 2:30pm in the High Court of Gujarat, presided over by chief justice S J Mukhopadhaya and justice Akil Kureshi according to the High Court’s causelist, although Legally India has not seen a copy of the application.

IANS wrote: “Panchal said that the BCI would conduct the examination Dec 5 and this would lead to loss of six months to them due to implementation of the new rules.

“He requested the court to direct the BCI to grant them the licence to practice, while the petitioners would appear in the exams later.

“The continuation of the licence would be subject to the result of the test, Panchal said.”

In an unrelated development, the Karnataka State Bar Council contacted the BCI questioning how the state bar council would be able to police the ban on court practice without passing the exam.

“If we enrol them on the condition that they would practise only after passing the AIBE [all India bar exam], we don’t have the mechanism to check whether they have indeed refrained from practising or not. In case, they practise, we don’t know how to stop them,” Karnataka Bar Council officials said, as reported national paper DNA India yesterday (15 June).

The bar exam is scheduled to be held on 5 December 2010 and will not affect seniority or basic work conducted by law firm lawyers, according to the BCI.

**UPDATE: Oza was a student at LA Shah Law College in Ahmedabad, which is affiliated to the University of Gujarat.

The college operates a three year special LLB degree, where the third year consists of advocacy specialisation.**

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Comments

Anonymous guest 16 Jun 2010, 16:02
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the headline is misleading. it's not a challenge to the validity of a bar exam as such.
the petitioners are probably from some cheap college and not GNLU. i wish GNLU-ites filed a PIL on the foreign law firm issue along with other NLU grads....now THAT would be news!
Anonymous guest 16 Jun 2010, 16:14
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BCI in its resolution dt 10 th April 2010 has not clarified the status of law graduates who had passed L.L.B before 2008 but not enrolled due to persuance of L.L.M Degree ( In this case upto 2010), or due to some other reason in other cases. What they will do after getting enrolled in 2010 The resolution was passed in hot haste without covering all vital aspects. Further , Rule 49 of Advocate`s act empowers BCI to impose conditions for right to practice ( r.49(1) ah), but not a seperate qualification like all India Bar Exam as imposing of conditions and requirement of a seperate qualification are not the same thing. So, a statutory amendment of advocate`s act is required before holding any such bar Exam. Further, in Sudeer case AIR 1999, SC 1167 S.C categorically held that any additional criteria for right to practice over and above of what was mentioned in s/24 of the act was unconstitutional
Anonymous guest 16 Jun 2010, 16:34
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The writ petition seems to be infructuous right at the threshold. As correctly reported, the Bar Council of India has clarified that the Bar Examination shall be mandatory for all law students graduating from academic year 2009-2010 onwards and enrolled as advocates under Section 24 of the Advocates Act, 1961. Since the six writ petitioners are said to have graduated in the year 2009, they are not required to sit for the bar exam. This being the position, the writ petition seems to be infructuous right at the threshold.
Anonymous guest 16 Jun 2010, 18:26
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I agree with #1 ... the headline's misleading and its not a challenge to the validity of the bar exam as such. The petitioners are arguing that they have graduated in 2009. And completed specialization in 2010 (whatever that means). So, the outcome of the petition will not apply to 2010 graduates, although it may apply to 2009 graduates who went off for an LLM without enrolling.

And Kian, would you know what "specialization" (after graduation) the petitioners / their counsel is referring to?
Anonymous guest 16 Jun 2010, 19:12
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This petition seems to be a joke...not worth reporting. What is specialisation after graduation??? Either you are already a graduate or you are not...as per UGC and BCI recognised courses, there is no such thing as graduation and then specialisation. These guys have graduated (I would assume, obtained LLB degree) in 2009 and therefore they don't need to sit for the bar exam, as has already been clarified by BCI. Looks like they have a lot of time in their hands. HEADLINE IS COMPLETELY MISLEADING...this is not a challenge to the legal validity of the Bar Exams
Anonymous guest 16 Jun 2010, 19:13
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"It is clarified that the Bar Examination shall be mandatory for all law students graduating from academic year 2009-2010 onwards and enrolled as advocates under Section 24 of the Advocates Act, 1961."

Does this mean that batch who has passed out in May/June 2009 will also be required sit for the Bar Exam?
Anonymous guest 16 Jun 2010, 19:24
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Some people just dont know what they are doing. They dont know anything. it is a mere resolution that the BCI Passed which has not yet been notified.
The very fact that they are challenging a rule (resolution) that is not yet in force further makes the case stronger for the BCI to introduce the exam. I just wish somebody else would take up the matter and stay the exam or allow people to practice till then.
Anonymous guest 16 Jun 2010, 19:29
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dexter, are you a dodo? did academic year 2009-10 end in May/ June 2009?seriously!
Anonymous guest 16 Jun 2010, 19:31
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#3: "The writ petition seems to be infructuous right at the threshold"

Yuk! This is the worst kind of obsolete Babu English (other examples being Your Humble Obedient Servant", "Your Good Self" and "miscreant"). Moreover, your usage is grammatically incorrect. It is wrong to use "infructuous" to describe a petition that is unsustainable. Do you happen to be one of those creatures that wear coats and gowns when it's 40 degrees, hold a grudge against NLUs, throw stones at policemen, support the LTTE, and oppose the entry of foreign law firms?
Anonymous guest 16 Jun 2010, 20:05
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@9 Please don't be so harsh !! Maybe #3 was bubbling with zest and enthusiasm to voice thee's mere humble view before this revered forum, hoping that your benevolent goodself would appreciate ! Again, may your goodself kindly offer the milk of your human kindness to shower on his/her sad state and refrain from being insulting to him/her
Anonymous guest 16 Jun 2010, 22:20
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i think laywers abroad also use words like infurctuous, sheweth, whomsoever etc. it's just legal speak
btw check this post abt krishna iyer. funny shit
http://indiauncut.com/iublog/article/phul-singh-vs-state-of-haryana-and-the-state-of-indian-english/
john2010 16 Jun 2010, 23:32
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I think we should be ashamed of ourselves. Inspite of graduating from the "top" law colleges in the country, we're scared to give a simple exam.
Anonymous guest 16 Jun 2010, 23:55
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@12 No one is scared to give this exam. It is just that this entire thing is being brought in a haste, without proper procedure being followed, e.g. the legal validity of the requirement to pass this exam to enroll, without proper amendments to the Advocates Act. Further, dont only think of yourself and others from "top" law schools...there are thousands of students graduating every year who may not be from "top" law colleges
Anonymous guest 17 Jun 2010, 00:01
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@12: you seem to suggest that GNLU students have filed the petition? it is actually more likely that a person from a [...] college in guajarat has filed the case. there is no extra "specialisation" in GNLU once you finish your LLB.
john2010 17 Jun 2010, 00:41
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I think Mr.Gopal Subramaniam is the kind of person who is usually a few steps of most of us. I can assure you that anyone who thinks this exam can be defeated on procedural grounds will be disappointed. So arguments based on legal validity, amendments can be struck down.

I didn't get your point regarding other students. If you're concerned about their voice, for all one can say; they probably are quiet because they support it. But I think it'd be also safe to say people, generally, don't like exams and all the noise can be best referred to as cribbing.

@14: The condemnation of this exam, till now, has mostly been coming from the "top" law schools with their brilliant students which is why I mentioned top in double quotes.
Anonymous guest 17 Jun 2010, 00:58
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I donot understand why a specific section of student (2009-2010 onwards) have to pay Rs. 1300 for a qualifying examination.The exam must be made free.

It seems to me all batches passed out before were perfect and fit for profession.This is an outright insult of the younger generation.

While he roots of the evil lies elsewhere - malpractice,corruption.It is a simple eyewash to cover the underlying current. Eg. Bhopal Gas Tragedy
Anonymous guest 17 Jun 2010, 04:56
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@15:
NLU grads are not complaining abt the exam coz they will fear they will flunk but for other reasons. don't try to take cheap shots at NLUs bcoz u are insecure.

and FYI the petitioners are NOT from GNLU but an unknown law college where u can get an LLB in only 2 yrs.

[The college is LA Shah Law College - see the update in the main body of the article above. -Ed]
Anonymous guest 17 Jun 2010, 17:01
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The petitioners are definitely NOT from GNLU. I could not see anywhere in the post that any such reference has been made to that effect.
It is infact a law college with not even a single full-time lecturer; forget a professor (and an Incharge Principal) (Refer http://www.sirlashah.org/faculty.html ). Considering this, no wonder that the grads of this unheard college so much apprehensive about clearing the bar exam.
Anonymous guest 17 Jun 2010, 17:22
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@ #1: "the petitioners are probably from some cheap college and not GNLU"?? What the ... ? May be you hail from one of the national law schools of the country, but please be careful of your usage of language in public forums. Just because the petitioners are not from GNLU, does not make them belong to some "cheap" law school/college in Gujarat. "Lesser known", would probably had been a better choice. But "cheap" definitely sounds derogatory with respect to that institution and also to you.
Anonymous guest 17 Jun 2010, 18:26
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It is a sudden announcement for the freshers at least they must be allowed to practice or the exammay b eimplmented from 2011 or 2012
Anonymous guest 17 Jun 2010, 18:28
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The exemption can include those who complted thecourse before 2009 10
Anonymous guest 17 Jun 2010, 20:01
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@ 19:

the word "cheap" does not refer to fees and campus architecture but faculty and student quality. almost all non-NLU colleges can be described as cheap colleges in this sense (among the rare exceptions are JGLS and the IIT kharagpur law school). DU and some other places once had good teachers but they are slowly moving to the NLUs. DU at least has a brand value but places like the petitioner's college can truly be called cheap.

i am not being arrogant but stating a sad fact. i would want foreign univs to open their campuses and offer good-quality education to thousands of students. the NLUs will shut shop in 2 months if that happens. unfortunately, the BCI is opposing foreign univs, just like it is opposing foreign law firms. the BCI are power-hungry oligarchs and monopolists who are doing much worse damage to the country's interests than the naxals. they are the ones to blame for the sad state of legal education and they are the ones you should be directing your angst towards.
Anonymous guest 18 Jun 2010, 16:29
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Area commander Supreme court of India says "new entrants should clear bar exams ,n then be then called learned lawyer while he manages to strike deals 4 his big juniors , his excellency himself have never qualified any exam but were lifted to the seats of low officer wat a irony , y things are fixed in this country , wat was the fault in earler system , y only NLS educated lawyers are learned n honourable , wat is honesty , coaching industry will groom n boom to qualify students for bar exams , all lawyers are equal strange country , you crack a deal you become learned n you c others as fools , life is a strange phenomenon its is aprocess of eliminmation , we know life is never fair
Anonymous guest 19 Jun 2010, 00:13
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@ 23: People, like you who have to crib, would always keep on cribbing. Go and ask internationally why graduates of Harvard Law School are considered to be the best. And correspondingly NLS, Bangalore is known to be the Harvard of the East. You perhaps would get an answer that why NLS educated lawyers are considered to be learned and honourable.
Anonymous guest 19 Jun 2010, 00:38
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All the unnecessary, unprovoked and immature mud slinging and the self proclaimed and self assumed superiority and "we r better" attitude , reflects only the insecurity and inferiority complex of the NLU-mongers. There is absolutely no need to under-rate or consider Sir L.A. Shah Law or its students any inferior to any NLU pass out.

Sir L.A. Shah Law college has gifted many Judges to the Nation by being Supreme Court Judges and also Chief Justice.

The exceeding majority of the Judges at Gujarat High Court is a product of Sir L.A. Shah Law College on any given day!

This stands true even for majority of Senior Counsels (under whom the NLU family i.e. GNLU students undergo internship!!! and flaunt their internship certificates).

SIR L.A. SHAH LAW COLLEGE STUDENTS HAVE COMPETED AND DEFEATED NLU STUDENTS (GNLU SPECIFICALLY) AT EVERY POSSIBLE FORUM. The only misfortune is that Sir L.A. Shah Law college is content and mature to not to boast of its regular achievements and GNLU highlights only their victories and would be ashamed of even murmuring in campus about their defeat. So stop "creating" and "living" in a "dream world" where GNLU students are considered superior to Sir L.A. Law College students.

I didnt want to belittle GNLU and its students. But the slew of immature comments based on ignorance of real facts forced me to post this.

So grow guys! u dont become great by a mere association to a NLU or traditional college, its u who have to make ur own mark!

There is no need to derive a sadistic pleasure by ridiculing the traditional colleges, be it law or other streams! because probably your father and mother earned their degrees from traditional law universities/colleges and so if u claim that all traditional college students are "incapable", "inferior" or "incompetent", then probably that stands true even for parents of NLU students! So moral is, its better we dont generalize and associate good qualities only with NLUs.

All the Laws, The Constitution of India, the Supreme Court Judgments and jurisprudence, are all product of traditional Law colleges and not NLUs(ya i know the 1st one came up only in 1988!!! too bad! )

No matter what NLU students boast of, ultimately they will be drawing their salaries from Advocates (Senior Counsels are NLU favorite)who are products of traditional law colleges, law firms (majority) being founded by product of traditional law colleges or even companies being run by business class who sometimes are not even graduates.

So.... be great yourself...not by being associated to an institution!
Anonymous guest 19 Jun 2010, 01:12
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@25 Very well said..this absolutely arrogant mindset of NLU students definitely need to change !!! One college may be superior to the other, but that does not mean that a student or product of a "better" college would, by default, be better in the profession than a student or product of a "not-so-better" college !!
napster 19 Jun 2010, 03:21
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@25- I am a student of GNLU. I have a lot of friends in Sir L.A. Shah Law College. I have visited the college on a number of occasions. Personally, I do not discriminate between individuals based on what college they come from. You, on the other hand are posting comments which belittle all the other good students of Sir L.A. Shah College.

First of all, Sir. L.A. Shah Law College has not defeated GNLU and as a matter of fact, any other NLU in any competition so far. I am sure of that. So do not post anything without backing it up with some data.

Second, GNLU doesn't boast about its achievements, it just has a better website than Sir L.A. Shah Law College. GNLU is like any other college. No college is stupid enough to put up their losses on their website. Its called common sense. First win something and then try to be modest.

Third, most of the Supreme Court Judges will surely be from traditional law colleges. Even high Court judges. Why ? Because becoming one requires experience of many years. Sir L.A. Shah Law College has produced many judges, I agree. They are really good. FYI, 18 GNLLU students took the JMFC exam this time, all of them passed it comfortably. wait for a decade or so and then check all the judge's background again.

I had done a survey with an organisation on the condition of three year law colleges in Ahmedabad. Sir L.A. Shah Law College did not even have the requisite faculty. None of the students attended college except for exams.

Just because a few NLU students ridicule traditional law colleges, doesn't mean that everyone in the NLU thinks so. Stop such, for want of a better word, stupid comments.

@Everyone-I have nothing against Sir L.A. Shah Law College. Its just that some people need to be made aware of the facts sometimes.

@25- Mark my words, Sir L.A. Shah Law College will not win any competition GNLU participates in. Its a challenge.
Anonymous guest 19 Jun 2010, 04:52
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@ 25 & 27- I am a 2004-2009 batch graduate from GNLU. Guys, it's true, Sir L.A. Shah Law College indeed defeated GNLU in National Rounds of Henry Dunant Moot Court Competition, 2009.
But now the most important fact behind this victory. The team which represented Sir L.A. Shah Law College comprised of 3 students, out of which 2 students were ex-GNLUites, pursuing LL.M. at Sir L.A. Shah Law College ['just so as to obtain an along side degree].. So Mr./Ms. 25, whosoever you are, first get your facts correct. Just imagine, Sir L.A. Shah Law College had to constitute its team by its LL.M. students, who were passouts from another NLU. (Why? Aren't your LL.B. students capable enough to even stand in front of the undergraduate LL.B. students from NLUs?)
Res ipsa loquitor. So, Mr./ Ms. 25, I guess you would have heard this Latin Maxim somewhere during your law studies at L.A. Shah or it sounds alien?
Anonymous guest 19 Jun 2010, 16:52
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Well said #27 & 28. U r right that one should be clear with facts first. As far as your claim of Sir L.A. Shah Law college students not capable of "even standing in front of GNLU students" is concerned, I would like to bring clarity to your facts first.

I know this facts for sure since I have graduated from Sir LA Shah and am a faculty in one of the prominent law college.

2 of my juniors JIGAR GHADVI and VANDAN BAXI competed with and defeated GNLU in a competition. URSHIT OZA(also my junior), as this report itself gives link to the newspaper report, was judged as BEST SPEAKER in National Moot Court Competition. I hope now GNLU does not deny participating in such competitions. And these are just illustrative names...the list goes on!

So #27 & 28, you can confirm these names with the L A SHAH LAW college and be satisfied that its not a "prophecy" that LA Shah students "will" never win against GNLU. It is a "Fact" that L A Shah Law college students "HAVE defeated GNLU students" Its a "PAST TENSE" now.

@ # 28, so rub off that attitude that L A Shah did win, but it was because of GNLU students. L A Shah Students have made it in the past even without GNLU students.
Anonymous guest 19 Jun 2010, 20:45
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Hey guys....

Look I am a pass out of GNLU and pursuing my LLM from Sir L. A. Shah Law College. It is not about GNLU v. L.A. Shah.. Please do not make it a battlefield between these two institutions.

Let me tell you that both the institutions are very much different. The former is a NLU and the latter is the College of Gujarat University. The Ideology or Concept behind both of them are totally different. No one can compare GNLU or L.A. Shah and no one can challenge or limit the Ideology of any Institute. It is all about the Bar Examination and I dont know that who made this silly comparison between GNLU and L.A. Shah and why. Nobody said that L.A. Shah is below GNLU or any other institutes, than why are you guys feeling that there is a sense of superiority among GNLU or NLUlites. @25 It did provoked and hurt the feelings of NLUlites and that is why arrows from GNLU and L.A. Shah are mounting each other.

I request you all to stop this ASAP.
Anonymous guest 19 Jun 2010, 21:05
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@ # 30 please read the very first comment, you will come to know who started it unnecessarily!!!
Anonymous guest 20 Jun 2010, 13:19
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Rofl! @ 24: NLS is Harvard of the East? God save Harvard! You NLSites just self-conferred that on the institution. Don't degrade Harvard by comparing yourself to that place. I am glad you spared Yale.

Man, it takes so little to equate oneself to the best in the world just because there is no better in your country that is full of corruption and protectionism.
Anonymous guest 20 Jun 2010, 17:34
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@#31. Yes indeed you are right that the first comment was written like that, but I can assure you that it was not written by any GNLUites. Well the name GNLU came into picture as GNLU is a National Law School and once 'Gujarat' comes into picture, everybody thinks of GNLU.

Look this does not mean that any college is below than the NLU's. Suppose if I ask you Law School in Bangalore, directly it will hit in your mind that it is NLS, Bangalore and not any other college of the same city. That is why GNLU came into the frame.

@#25 Please do not pass such remarks that National Law Schools do not give birth to Judges. Please also do not remark that you defeated or lost against GNLU. GNLU is in itself is different than Sir L.A. Shah Law College, or for that matter any other NLS is different from any other College in India. Please do not bring this type of 'racism' in competence. Please do not mention that you win and do not boast and GNLU do.

I think, Law is a subject by which one gets mature enough to look at the things himself. What I am finding here is a sense of "IMMATURITY". Please avoid this race.

I hope you all got it and will not again comment anything on either GNLU (NLSchools)or Sir L.A. Shah College of Law (any other college under any University).
Anonymous guest 23 Jun 2010, 21:34
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i think all the students of law should avoid the rule, because we allready lose 3 years or 5 years in completing this course,if we know about the exam most of the student cant join this course. this is a suddenly taken decision by bar council. i think this rule will be applicable after 2012
Anonymous guest 26 Jun 2010, 00:12
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All India Bar Examination is a hand in glove game of the BCI and Rainmaker to make money out of the pockets of students and even from those who have studied via loans, scholarships or fees exemptions or concessional fees. This is a poor show of the conduct of the Law Minister and the BCI to tax the students not only the ground of money but also on account of making them helpless and jobless.

If BCI wants to put a regulation to start an exam then it must have informed the students while they were entering into the course so that they must have been aware as to what they shall have to inorder to become an advocate but not at the time when they are completing the degree.

I have slogged through my course and being a son of a poor farmer I am unable to stand any further for 6 months and an additional cost of another exam.
Anonymous guest 26 Jul 2010, 23:53
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read faqs on bar council of india website which gives detail description of the registration status of all kinds of law graduates whether registered or not ,2010 onwards for d entrance examination;;;;;;;
S.Radha 16 Dec 2013, 05:05
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Dear Sir,

I want to know the below :-

1) If candidates Have passed LLB Exam in 1996 0r 1997 0r 1998 and wants to enrol now for Permanent membership at BCI , is He/She is exempted from Qualifying Exam conducted by BCI and can we get direct permanent membership for practising as advocate.

Would be thankful for your help in this regard.

S.Radha