First proper NUJS VC in 15 months to be NK Chakrabarti from KIIT • CJI clears name for EC

Nirmal Kanti Chakrabarti gets nod from CJI about being the next VC
Nirmal Kanti Chakrabarti gets nod from CJI about being the next VC

NUJS Kolkata chancellor and Chief Justice of India Ranjan Gogoi has confirmed his selection of Prof NK Chakrabarti as his formal choice to be the next vice chancellor (VC) to lead NUJS Kolkata, according to an email sent internally by the Student Juridical Association (SJA) to students.

Once the NUJS Executive Council meets again it can then discuss and confirm his appointment. This will probably happen after the university reopens from holidays.

Chakrabarti is currently director of KIIT School of Law in Bhubaneswar, Odisha (at least since 2013, from what we can parse from his profile and KIIT’s website). He holds a PhD in criminal justice. According to the website, he has previously worked as a professor at Calcutta University, and as adjunct professor at IIT Kharagpur (full KIIT profile copy below).

The other three contenders listed for the CJI to choose between after the search process were Prof VC Vivekanandan, and Prof SD Sharma.

If his appointment proceeds smoothly, this would mark 15 months since previous VC Ishwara Bhat had resigned and been replaced by interim government-appointed VC Amit Talukdar, as the formal re-appointments process crawled on, with a request for applicants only issued by November 2018.

When asked for a formal comment from the SJA, an office bearer responded with: “Saying anything at this stage would be speculative.”

While the NUJS’ governing act is not entirely clear whether the EC can theoretically veto the Chancellor/CJI’s decision (it recommends that the two work “in consultation”), in practice it seems unlikely that the EC would want to butt heads with the CJI.

The NUJS VC appointment process
The NUJS VC appointment process

KIIT full profile (sic, etc)

Prof Chakrabarti currently working as Director, School of Law, KIIT Deemed to be University obtained his PhD in “Probation in the administration of Criminal Justice in West Bengal: A Critical Appraisal of the system.” Prof Chakrabarti with a teaching experience of 32 years ,also worked as a Professor in Calcutta University, as an adjunct Professor in IIT , khragpur. He has 25 years of research experience and successfully guided 21 PhD scholars. Prof Chakrabarti worked as Joint Co-coordinator, Calcutta Task Force on Govt. of India sponsored Project Reformulation of Immoral Traffic (Prevention) Act during 1992-93.with National Law School of India University (NLSIU), Bangalore. He has worked as Principal Investigator in UGC-UPE Major Research Project on “Use of Forensic Science in the Administration of Justice in India: A Futuristic Study” in the University of Calcutta from September 2007 to March 2013He has worked as Project Director in ICSSR project on “People’s Perception of Police-Public Relations in the District Capitals of the North Eastern States of India: A Study in Perspective of Community Policing” during 2013-2015. Prof Chkrabarti has 9 books, 3 book reviews and 83 research publication to his credit. Prof Chakrabarti is a member of Editorial Board, International Journal of Legislative Drafting and Law Reforms, London.(ISSN 2025-5183) , member of Advisory Board, Indian Human Rights Law Review(ISSN .2230-7036). Prof Chakrabarti has Participated in Global Law Deans Forum on “Developing Approaches and Standa rds rd for a Global Legal Education” hosted by I E University, Madrid , Spain during 25th -26th October,2015 , and Annual Meeting of International association of Law Schools at Segovia , Spain, during 27th – 29th October,2015. Prof Chakrabarti also went for Research Visit at Max Planck Institute of Foreign and International Criminal Law at Freiburg, Germany in 2017 & 2018. He aalso Delivered a Lecture in the 16th Asian Certificate Course on Victimology, Victim Justice and Victim Assistance at City University, Hong Cong on 5th June 2018. (Indian Society of Victimology in its 10th Biannial Conferrence held at Nirma University, Ahmedabad on 23rd February 2017, conferred Professor K. Chockalingam Award 2017 to Prof Chakrabarti for his contribution in the field of Victimology. Prof Chakrabarti also was awarded Research Fellowship two consecutive years 2017 (June) & 2018 by Max Planck Society, Germany to do a research project on “Universalization of Criminal Jurisdiction in Domestic Legislations” at Max Planck Institute of Foreign and International Criminal Law, Freiburg, Germany, June 13th to 12th July 2018

Comments

Ahem 6 Jun 2019, 23:03
+31 -31
For those wondering why he was selected...

[img]https://i.imgur.com/ocSWzWp.png[/img]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/kmdEY5l.png[/img]
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 06:37
+45 -8
Political views not allowed? Esp. in favour of the only state based party in his home state? Also, if it was just that and not merited then the CJI could have refused. I understand he isn't an ideal choice, but don't reduce him (and his career) to just two tweets.
Prabahan 7 Jun 2019, 09:07
+38 -8
Seems like nothing but an attempt by justice league to rile up students against a perfectly validly appointed well chosen VC.
Kalia 7 Jun 2019, 10:13
+33 -10
Yes this piece of news was specifically leaked for the purpose of creating a CNLU Patna kind of situation against NKC. Last ditch effor to save rather particular's ass. It is well known that NKC had lodged complaints against rather particular in the past. Justice league also delaying appointment as much as it can. Now they are claiming they can send a letter of appointment only after next EC! EC appointed committee selected him and 2 others, sent to CJI for a final pick, CJI chose NKC. What is the need of another EC?

Just so Justice league can consolidate itself further before new VC takes charge. And try their best to get students to protest against NKC (only a faint hope are present).
Turmscash 7 Jun 2019, 10:52
+33 -6
Yes this post is being flooded with anti NKC comments so that it looks like he is a disaster. Also many comments about Vivekanandan as if Vivekanandan even applied. There were rumours spread about monoj Kumar Sinha also. Given the options, the CJI has chosen the best. Now the only option justice league has is to scream and shout and behave as if NKC is appointed by Mamata while each of them bend over their backs to accomodate any political party that is in power.

There is a limit to this drama.
Willard 7 Jun 2019, 15:12
+30 -7
I don't think their strategy is working. Arindum Nayak sent a mail to everyone telling them Vivekanandan is not necessary a greater option and it's no use fighting because continuous protest means perhaps another year or two delay and taluk raj. I would say sane advice. Get a VC. NKC does not really have a bad reputation.
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 17:08
+12 -2
Didn't get any such mail. Are you sure it's been sent to the GB?
Stop it 8 Jun 2019, 05:47
+3 -0
Stop snitching about internal communications for two seconds of fame.
Golden Snitch 8 Jun 2019, 08:59
+2 -0
Shan't.
desperado 7 Jun 2019, 11:16
+6 -8
Looks like the battle for NUJS is far from over. Justice league certainly has an upperhand these days but a known nemesis of justice league head rather particular is a gamechanger. Bhag DK bose. Will the EC stuffed by justice league members be able to save rather particular somehow?
correction 7 Jun 2019, 16:19
+11 -2
Infact EC had discussed the names shortlisted by the committee and forwarded it to CJI with NKCs name first on the list. Kalia is right- there is absolutely no need for convening another EC - except that the justice league wants to delay it as much as they can.
Poshupa 7 Jun 2019, 11:34
+18 -2
The only way to have an acceptable VC at NUJS will be to hold election. Where both faculty and students can vote. Of course with Amit Shah EVMs.
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 16:43
+4 -9
Wake up, dude. NLSIU has Sudhir, NALSAR has Faizan. Don't you want NUJS to have someone of similar stature? When Vivekanandan's name was in contention, how could NKC be selected??
Willa 8 Jun 2019, 06:36
+9 -3
Perhaps because Vivekanandan did not seem that much interested? My sources suggest that he would leave for NLS or NLUD if given the opportunity. Do you want a VC who uses NUJS as a rag for stopgap CV position? NKC has a good reputation and he won't leave. Vivekanandan would leave at the drop of a hat and that's why committee + CJI preferred NKC.

Don't trouble your puny brains that have access to very little information so much.
Kala 8 Jun 2019, 09:14
+4 -1
Yeah then we will find out that nabendu dam got elected as vc
Idea 8 Jun 2019, 11:56
+7 -0
Do one thing. Make SKC the VC of NUJS. How is the idea Sir ji..!
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 13:49
+3 -2
At least he is a person who does his job the best he can instead of wasting his time plotting and power-tripping like most of his colleagues.
Idea1 8 Jun 2019, 14:55
+4 -0
Good idea. At least he will work hard for the university and not for personal gain.
Yantze 7 Jun 2019, 10:59
+14 -5
How come none of these people concerned about tweets by NKC has no problem that the daughter of a TMC MP was appointed assistant registrar and moves are being made to install her as assistant registrar? There should be a limit to duplicity. If I do it then it's a sin and if you do it then it's holy Ganga water?
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 13:44
+10 -1
She's not with TMC now. She's joined Mukul Roy's team more than a year back.
desperado 7 Jun 2019, 14:13
+6 -1
Not the greatest relief - also given that the law minister from TMC has been backing her.
Willard 7 Jun 2019, 15:15
+6 -1
Yeah how did the appointment of AG go through if she is BJP and TMC is not backing her? It's not about the exact party. Look at who is batting for who.
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 16:57
+9 -0
These people are basically opportunists. They would oil anyone if it suits their own petty interests. Everybody knows they don't give a damn about the institution. They don't even do their regular work properly.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 02:57
+1 -1
Nowadays, academics with the right contacts get their trash published by publishers like oxford, India and of course Eastern Book Co. All that you need to do to prove your academic credentials is to include words like TWAIL, epistomology, ontology, colonialism and inner-self! Getting your papers published by Deep may not be bad after all!
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 16:29
+7 -11
Dear Trolls defending NKC, please read the excerpt below. He was found by an inquiry committee to fudge his CV. Even now, he claims 55 journal articles without listing them, as well as "research visits" to Max Planck (anyone can pay a visit, the question is whether he was invited as a research fellow). As for his books, I just found 3 on Google books, by 3 rubbish publishers (Deep & Deep and Cambray & Co)

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=6XIpAAAACAAJ&dq=inauthor:%22Nirmal+Kanti+Chakrabarti%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZ-Mzi5NfiAhVROisKHehGBpMQ6AEIMTAC

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=v1oDIHU3LfkC&dq=inauthor%3A%22Nirmal%20Kanti%20Chakrabarti%22&source=gbs_book_other_versions

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=uko-qmKQkH0C&dq=inauthor:%22Nirmal+Kanti+Chakrabarti%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZ-Mzi5NfiAhVROisKHehGBpMQ6AEIKDAA

[quote]
The inquiry committee also found that Chakraborty, in securing a job at the university, had given false statements regarding his stint at Hooghly Mohsin College.

A member of the Syndicate said Chakraborty had stated in his application that he had been a full-time teacher at the college. ?But inquiry revealed his statement to be absolutely false. His appointment was ad hoc and he was not a permanent teacher there.?

Chakraborty was appointed in the university?s law department in 1997. Next year, he was promoted to the post of reader and in 2003, he became the head of the department.

The university?s chargesheet against Chakraborty asked him to explain why he had misled the authorities by making false statements regarding his previous employment.[/quote]



https://www.telegraphindia.com/states/west-bengal/private-tuition-slap-for-two-university-teachers/cid/1119477
Willa 8 Jun 2019, 06:39
+10 -3
Enquiry committees can be partial and manipulated. What actions were taken against NKC? Your link only talks about a chargesheet. If the charges were proven, provide evidence. Or shut up. Even in NUJS a dozen enquiries have been opened against both justice league before and now injustice league. No progress whatsoever over 1.5 years. How can you be a law student/ law faculty and rely on a chargesheet to condemn someone? For all your know a cpim admin used this to take revenge against a Didi friendly academic.
Who is Willa/Willard 8 Jun 2019, 09:07
+9 -4
[...]

It's our humble request, kindly stop spreading misinformation through your flawed arguments for defending the appointment of NKC as our next VC.

There is no need for you to prove that NKC is better than VCV or Mr Sharma. Students and alumni already know who is better candidates among three.
Kala 8 Jun 2019, 10:50
+4 -0
Even if VCV was appointed same drama will happen because justice league needs to retain power
desperado 8 Jun 2019, 13:12
+3 -3
If they alredy know then why are you crying about anonymous posts in legallyindia?
Guest 23 Sept 2019, 19:08
+0 -0
Amen.
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 07:10
+7 -2
How many books have VCV written? I didn't come across any from the Internet at least.
Dramabaj 8 Jun 2019, 11:17
+13 -0
Dear SJA, please contact with Gogoi to make AP as VC, AG as Registrar, SS as AR (Ad.) and LDG as FO to save NUJS.
Guest 6 Jun 2019, 23:14
+23 -38
I condemn this decision and the interference by the TMC government in the appointment process. Professor Vivekanandan is infinitely more suited to the post. He has been involved with two very reputed institutions in senior positions: at NALSAR, he was head of distance education and MHRD Chair professor. At the IIT Kharagpur IP Law school he was the first Dean. His academic credentials are also far superior: a PhD from NLSIU, international publications of repute, and a high standing int he field of IP law. He has also advised the Indian government in WIPO negotiations (video below).He is also well connected and has established links with top ranked law schools (George Washington while at IIT, Cornell while at Bennett University). Finally, he is articulate and speaks English fluently (I am sorry, but these soft skills matter).

I am very disappointed that the students did not pre-emptively object to the decision, as it was well known that the TMC was pushing for NKC . Knowing Prof Vivekanandan, he will feel insulted and prefer to apply to another NLU instead.


[img]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnfUtcbdnt4[/img]
Ranbir Singh 7 Jun 2019, 06:00
+26 -6
Vivekanandan did not even try for NUJS. He was the top choice of Justice Arun Mishra for the position.

However, his name was only nominated by Ranbir Singh. Neither did he apply himself nor made any effort towards getting the job. He has his eyes solely on NLUD.
Wake up 8 Jun 2019, 05:58
+7 -7
The selection process happened in a very opaque manner. It was not as if the GB was consulted or informed at all. It was only yesterday that the GB got to know about the names of three of the candidates in contention and a bit about how the selection process went. How would the students have preemptively dealt with this situation without no knowledge of the happenings?

Also it is super easy to type from far away after you have a comfortable cushioned job, about the need for current students, for many of whom employment is a serious concern, to push back against political forces. Most of the alumni only know how to pass comments but do not come forward to actually provide any assistance. The situation is much worse in the university right now and we do not want NUJS to become a battlefield like Jadvapur University now.
LOL 6 Jun 2019, 23:16
+20 -31
Congratulations to NUJS and welcome to Tier 2 NLU status.
LMFAO 8 Jun 2019, 06:05
+11 -1
NUJS has maintained its Tier 1 status despite struggling with the administration for years. On the contrary, the Tier 2 NLUs have also stayed in those ranks even with relatively better administration. So the history speaks for itself.
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 20:13
+2 -1
As long as coaching classes rank law schools the way they do, the perception of law schools among students isn't going to change. And the better the students, better the career outcomes, and that is the bottomline.
RGSOIPL alum 6 Jun 2019, 23:34
+14 -23
Friends, I would like to post some reactions on behalf of IIT KGP law school (RGSOIPL) community.

1. Prof VCV was a very friendly and popular Dean, who took many initiatives like curriculum reform and collaboration with GWU law school (which is still going strong). He is fondly remembered. Ours is a small, niche law school for BTech grads. We do not aspire to be like NLUs. He understood our needs very well.

2. The RGSOIPL community was hoping that Prof VCV would head to NUJS, as it would make it easier for him to give guest lectures at KGP. We are thus extremely disappointed that Prof VCV has not been chosen.

3. We are further disappointed at the continued marginalisation of IP scholarship. We fail to understand why VCs of law schools must always be experts in human rights, constitutional law, criminology etc. IP law should be treated as a major branch of law in itself deserving equal respect. We strongly oppose this unofficial caste system.

4. Finally, please note that Prof NKC was not appointed as an "adjunct professor" at RGSOIPL, as no such designation exists. Academicians and practitioners have often visit for guest lectures, including Prof NKC, but this does not amount to a formal designation of adjunct professor.
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 14:48
+16 -3
If he's that popular, then invite him back to your place as Dean, who's stopping you?
yeah 8 Jun 2019, 00:09
+7 -0
yup - specially when you have not had a dean for over two years now
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 14:34
+4 -1
Yes, bring him back as your dean and then we will invite him over for guest lectures.
Dian 8 Jun 2019, 11:19
+3 -1
AP is always a better choice than VCV.
Chamcha 8 Jun 2019, 14:05
+2 -0
I thought Dean at KGP was far more prestigious than at Bennett, with no targets to meet and almost same pay.
Hitler Didi 6 Jun 2019, 23:36
+20 -15
[img]https://akm-img-a-in.tosshub.com/indiatoday/images/story/201703/mamatabanerjee-story_647_031016092555_032217061015_0.jpg[/img]
Guest 6 Jun 2019, 23:37
+9 -15
While NLSIU gets Sudhir....
Guest 6 Jun 2019, 23:44
+8 -20
[img]https://i.ibb.co/zbRmGgQ/gggg.png[/img]
Willard 7 Jun 2019, 15:17
+21 -4
You just want the students to keep fighting! Are they here to fight your dirty political battles for you, or to study? They have their careers to look after.
Guest 6 Jun 2019, 23:46
+28 -18
Shame on the SJA. Your inaction has repeatedly led to the college being screwed over and over again. There was a time any years ago when alumni and students had united to sign a petition against PIB. Nowadays the alumni are treated with contempt and mediocracy is supported.
Willa 7 Jun 2019, 15:17
+14 -6
Desperate comments from justice league member to get SJA to react as per their convenience.
Misconduct inquiry 6 Jun 2019, 23:50
+8 -16
[quote]Sources at Calcutta University said some students of the law department had lodged complaints with senior officials, including controller of examinations Onkar Sadhan Adhikari, stating that the two teachers had forced them to take private tuition for better results?. The students requested Adhikari not to divulge their names.

A three-member committee, comprising Shyamapada Pal, P.N. Ghosh and Shyamal Sarkar, had been formed to probe the charges. The committee submitted its report to the Syndicate on April 19.

Recently, the authorities had chargesheeted the two teachers Nirmal Kanti Chakraborty and S.S. Chatterjee.

"I have not yet received any chargesheet. Naturally, I will not say anything about the so-called charges," Chakraborty told Metro on Tuesday.

Chatterjee, however, claimed that the allegations were false. "I will decide my course of action after I receive the university's letter," he said.[/quote]

https://www.telegraphindia.com/states/west-bengal/private-tuition-slap-for-two-university-teachers/cid/1119477
Willa 7 Jun 2019, 15:18
+11 -2
Can you clarify if these charges were proven and what actions were taken by Calcutta University against NKC?
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 16:55
+7 -0
Doing that will require actual research, proof, legal evidence etc. [...] such things are in short supply with this whole lot it seems. Only half-truths, vague allegations and insinuations.
Lawbreaker VC 7 Jun 2019, 01:03
+0 -1
[quote]The inquiry committee also found that Chakraborty, in securing a job at the university, had given false statements regarding his stint at Hooghly Mohsin College.

A member of the Syndicate said Chakraborty had stated in his application that he had been a full-time teacher at the college. ?But inquiry revealed his statement to be absolutely false. His appointment was ad hoc and he was not a permanent teacher there.?

Chakraborty was appointed in the university?s law department in 1997. Next year, he was promoted to the post of reader and in 2003, he became the head of the department.

The university?s chargesheet against Chakraborty asked him to explain why he had misled the authorities by making false statements regarding his previous employment.

The probe panel also found that one of the two teachers had misappropriated funds sanctioned for a students? excursion. ?The wealth accumulated by one of the two teachers is not proportionate to his income,? the Syndicate member said. ?Naturally, we have reasons to question him on how he had gathered such wealth. We have the right to know his sources of income,? he added.[/quote]

https://www.telegraphindia.com/states/west-bengal/private-tuition-slap-for-two-university-teachers/cid/1119477
Detective 7 Jun 2019, 01:16
+16 -12
I have some questions about this man's CV:

http://iti.beta.kiit.ac.in/profiles/prof-dr-n-k-chakrabarti/

1. He claims to have published 55 articles. Why is not even one listed? How many of these are in peer reviewed journals of repute?

2. What does "research visit" to Max Planck mean? Did he just go to use the library or was he a research fellow?

3. Why are the dates of the Max Planck visit 2017 and 2018 in one place, and 2016 in another?

4. He is bio claims he was a reader at CU, then "adjunct prof" at IIT, then promoted to professor at CU. Can we then assume that "adjunct prof" at IIT is lower than professor rank at IIT and certainly lower than Dean rank, which Vivekanandan held?
suniye toh 7 Jun 2019, 09:59
+8 -10
yeh 2012 se yahi bol rha hai ki 50-55 articles. however, nowhere to be found. max planck ka bhi pata nhi.
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 20:20
+4 -0
Tenured hierarchy in India: assistant professor, associate professor, full professor. Adjunct is generally a non-formal position, often for visiting faculty. An adjunct may be at any level of academic hierarchy, or even not an academic at all (from industry or a professional). Older hierarchy: lecturer, reader, professor.
doubt 7 Jun 2019, 02:18
+6 -0
The search committee had forwarded the names to the CJI who then sent it back to the EC for discussion. the EC had recommended the three names (NKS, VCV and SDS) in that order. The CJ has has thus approved the selection by the EC. What is the need for another EC meeting to confirm this - except that Taimur wants to squat for some more time and inflict more damage on the institution?? It seems there are more [...] activities that he wants to do and this excuse of another EC is being taken so that he can continue on that chair. we must wake up to this nonsense.
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 02:57
+11 -8
If Vivekanandan ends up as NLUD VC, he will be happy he didn't get selected here.
Yolo 7 Jun 2019, 04:05
+5 -7
.....and let the drama begin!
BS 7 Jun 2019, 04:12
+9 -3
[...] and [...] have failed the students of NUJS. They pretended to be working a lot but clearly their efforts have added up to nothing. After trash-talking NKC among the students regarding his alleged closeness to the TMC, now they have the audacity to make this appointment seem completely all right. Let the student body get back to campus because we will not forgive you for playing with our futures.
BS 9 Jun 2019, 07:40
+1 -0
Kian, I see that you have censored my comment while this section is otherwise rife with references to the very people I had mentioned. For clarity - this comment pertains to [...]. I hope you will publish this.
kianganz 9 Jun 2019, 08:05
+3 -3
We have generally always aimed to moderate identification of current or former students in the comments.
Guest 9 Jun 2019, 08:41
+0 -0
While keeping current and former faculty as open season game I see.
Guest 9 Jun 2019, 11:48
+1 -0
Kian censors gaalis against faculty unless you use clever nicknames/code words, such as Rather Particular, Pop Singer, Slapper etc. Subramanian Swamy does the same while attacking Jaitley (Shakuni) and Tharoor (GST).
Slowmosanmein 7 Jun 2019, 04:15
+19 -9
KIIT's loss is NUJS's gain.
Prabahan 7 Jun 2019, 04:35
+25 -11
NKC is a good man. NUJS needs a level headed apolitical man who will focus on academics and cleaning up administration. NKC is the right person. I am so happy for NUJS.
Ex-Kiitian 7 Jun 2019, 04:41
+10 -14
NKC is a director at KIIT since 2009, after departure of Prof. Mustafa (except for a brief stint of around 6 months when Prof. Mrinal Raste was the director). He is liked by the management for being a good boy, who follows what the management says. He generally goes by the book and rarely takes bold initiative. God saves NUJS, which needs a real dynamic person who can take a stand and revive the university.
Ex k-IIT 7 Jun 2019, 05:17
+12 -12
Trust me, he is the equivalent of Dr. Manmahon Singh in the legal fraternity.
Yantze 7 Jun 2019, 11:33
+16 -3
Let's hope he will bring reforms to nujs like Manmohan did with the country. We don't need a loudmouth in any case. A quiet worker is what we need and that is NKC.
meanwhile 7 Jun 2019, 05:46
+20 -1
not to mention how AG will be made the registrar soon!!
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 07:35
+18 -8
SJA is again falling into the trap created by Taluk and Co. They are trying to hurriedly install puppet registrars and account officers before leaving to make way for the new VC. There's no other reason why the Regi and AO need to be appointed asap before new VC takes charge when it has been delayed for over 2 years. As usual, SJA remains short-sighted to recognise this ploy for what it is. Regi and AO are permanent posts and people getting in will stay for life.
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 13:49
+13 -0
There's a new committee formed with rather particular and an assistant professor to shortlist registrar candidates! What a joke! This is the only university where faculty and that too assistant professors get to choose who the regi is gonna be.
Lawyer1 7 Jun 2019, 09:56
+17 -9
Sad but NUJS getting what it deserves. With so many student protests and horrible govt. in place alongwith disrespecting and removal of so many good professors by Ishwar Bhat regime, this law school will become more mediocre. Already, it has become Number 4 in preference after NLS, Nalsar and NLUD, very soon NLUJ, GNLU and even JGLS will also take it over.
Aap ka Suroor 7 Jun 2019, 10:41
+11 -8
You are from JGLS, aren't you?

I think it's important to highlight that albeit majority of top NLUs like NUJS, GNLU etc. being plagued by maladministration for quite some time now, they have been doing much better on some essential fronts like mooting, recruitment etc. than other universities that claim to have world class faculty and research.

Essentially, it's the student quality and except in cases of drastic policy changes related to admissions, these universities will continue to attract quality talent from across the country.
Lawyer1 7 Jun 2019, 14:30
+4 -2
No. From Delhi. And that doesn't matter.
Really ?? 7 Jun 2019, 12:48
+8 -6
“Already, it has become Number 4 in preference after NLS, Nalsar and NLUD,...” NLUD is number 3 in whose books? NLUD guys try to claim tier 1 status, but students preference is clear: NLSIU , NALSAR, NUJS , NLUJ, NLIU, GNLU, NLUD.
Observer 7 Jun 2019, 14:07
+6 -2
Very rarely students leave nlud for nujs and last yr few nls selected joined nlud. With nalsar, it is well balanced at this moment.
Alumnus 7 Jun 2019, 10:02
+15 -5
Maybe if the students focused more on their own business and less on these things, the college would be far better served. Nowadays the people who come from NUJS to the firms have a chip on the shoulder as their best skill. We are going the NLS way.
Oh hello 8 Jun 2019, 06:32
+8 -0
How are the students going to study if the administration keeps creating hassle after hassle? For example, the scholarship process was delayed for over 4 months for 2018-19 academic year, with the policy being revised based on one student's petition, without consulting the rest of the students affected. The college declared scholarships and then revoked the notification with a revised one. Students have still not received the scholarship amount. How will students who are not able to afford to continue studying due to administrative deficiencies, solely mind their business of studying?

It is in fact the alumni who are too busy counting the notes from their glorified internships who have no time to help with things happening in their Alma mater and instead choose to simply pass comments from afar.
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 14:39
+5 -1
So protest against such atrocities. Haven't seen you lot doing that in the past year and a half. What have you been doing instead of passing comments from the spot as opposed to from afar? What is the SJA for, only for getting self-instituted medals and congratulatory self-pats on the back?
Purpose 8 Jun 2019, 16:09
+3 -0
Yes definitely. That is the sole purpose! Glad you understand
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 20:29
+2 -0
All aiming for a human rights centric Rhodes scholarship, you mean?
Guest 9 Jun 2019, 00:03
+5 -0
Don't try to pass off individual achievement as reflective of the entire batch quality. And while you're at it, ask that student about the level of institutional contribution towards her own achievement. Graduate quality has fallen across most NLUs and at NUJS, it's more apparent, especially given the high quality pre-2012.
khilaaadiiii 7 Jun 2019, 10:26
+3 -0
khilaadio ka!!!
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 11:06
+7 -17
A petition is being drafted by alumni over the passing over of VCV... the inquiry committee at CU which found NCV falsified his CV will be raised.. the link will be shared on Legally India

The present SJA may keep ignoring alumni, but we are taking matters into our own hands... we cannot have this man sit in the same chair as legendary academicians like Menon, Chimni and MP Singh... even PIB had decent academic credentials.
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 11:54
+3 -2
OK.
Ghantadaar 7 Jun 2019, 13:51
+19 -2
Ghanta! No such petition is being drafted. Fake news, Kian.
Arrre arjun bhai... 7 Jun 2019, 14:27
+14 -0
Arre arjun bhai....loved your shit in statesman....you are only hope of nujs justice league and sja
Statesman 8 Jun 2019, 10:42
+3 -4
It is great that the alumni are making an effort. Kindly appreciate the help being provided and utilize it efficiently
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 14:39
+5 -0
Yeah, some of such help is what landed us in this soup to begin with.
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 11:20
+10 -5
[this tweet appears to have been deleted]
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 14:53
+11 -0
Isn't this the student who'd [...]? Heh, if it isn't the pot calling the kettle black. All armchair activists. Someone should ask him what he had been doing throughout last year when no VC was being appointed, no work was being done and Taluk & Co. were reigning supreme.
sloganjee 8 Jun 2019, 00:13
+10 -1
NKC was selected by a search committee consisting of Arun Mishra (SC Judge) , Sommadder (CJ of Calcutta High Court) and Kishore Dutta (AG of Bengal). Now will Mr. Sloganjee explain how did Mamta politically interfere and got NKC selected?
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 05:34
+11 -1
Who's he and why's this tweet important?
Who is he 8 Jun 2019, 06:35
+14 -2
Nice going. Person who never bothered to speak out on these matters while in university is now trying to grab eyeballs on social media now that he has a job! So much for followers.
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 09:04
+12 -0
That too someone who'd been disciplined [...].
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 14:45
+8 -3
Kian, why exactly are you censoring these comments pointing out atrocities committed by individuals that are matters of public record? This guy had beaten and trampled with his boots a junior in football field so much that the guy almost lost hearing in one ear. Inquiry committees had been formed during PIB's time, but nothing came of it barring a slap on the wrist because people in admin conveniently kept losing important documents. The victim's father had threatened to go to the police, but the matter got hushed up owing to intervention from influential people. Ask any student if you need proof of that. Your policy of censoring accusations without proof against individuals should not cover this. He's the one trying to go public with his hypocritical criticism, so facts about him ought to come to light too.
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 11:24
+8 -0
Yeh Shaadi Nahi Ho Sakti !!!
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 11:35
+10 -14
1. A lie is being spread that VCV was not interested and will head to NLUD. The NLUD VCship will be very competitive, so VCV is not assured of it. He would have preferred to "lock" NUJS.

2. When a report in the Telegraph says that NKC was found prima facie to engage in serious misconduct (lying about his CV and forcing students tp take private tuition from him) it must be asked how such a person can succeed the likes of Madhava Menon and MP Singh.

3. As for Rather Particular, you do not need NKC to discipline him. Anyone can file a complaint under the new UGC plagiarism rules (which apply retrospectively) and seek his dismissal. The question to ask is why the SJA is silent. Why Arjun Agarwal writes articles attacking faculty members but is silent on him. If this was NLSIU or NALSAR, the students would have complained.
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 11:45
+7 -1
[img]https://i2.wp.com/themorningbellbd.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Mamata-Banerjee-rules-again-new-ministers-touch-her-feet.jpg[/img]
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 12:10
+12 -5
Rename NUJS to Beliaghata Law College.
Naming Authority 8 Jun 2019, 06:41
+3 -0
The name is well accepted in the local community, only a new board needs to be made for the change to be made official. Give the tender to AB!
Chamcha 8 Jun 2019, 14:22
+0 -0
Great idea
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 12:20
+4 -3
If Sudhir can be appointed as VC of NLSIU, then an NUJS alum can at least be appointed as Academic Dean or something. While those alumni working in universities abroad will not be interested, a small number of NUJS alumni are working in Indian universities. In fact, the topper from the very first batch is a prof at Jindal.

http://www.jgls.edu.in/nemika-jha/
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 13:55
+9 -0
Who is not interested to come back to NUJS leaving behind cushy posts and high salary. You'd notice the JGLS faculty despite having been openly critical of student quality (in personal circles, otherwise their views regarding the university are fairly closely monitored by their admin), have never even tried to shift to NLUD which is the nearest NLU. The reason is money and incentives (like hefty one time grants for international Scopus publications etc.), plain and simple. Nothing wrong with that, of course.
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 12:29
+19 -2
For those commenting on TMC supporting Anupama Ghoshal, her father Anup Ghoshal is no longer a TMC MP. She has also joined BJP in 2017, as you can see below. How can you then call her a TMC person? Has she left BJP and rejoined TMC after 2017? Maybe we can confirm by greeting her with Jai Shri Ram and seeing her reaction (smile or slap).


[img]https://d23xcmtliku0ki.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/anupama-ghoshal-kolkata24x7.jpg[/img]


https://english.kolkata24x7.com/biswa-bangla-a-company-owned-by-abhishek-banerjee-mukul.html/
Pol science 8 Jun 2019, 06:44
+5 -0
Guess we will get to learn a new perspective on political science now. Excited!
Noojie 8 Jun 2019, 10:34
+10 -0
Any perspective would be sort of new to us, since we never had those classes to begin with!
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 14:47
+3 -0
Has any batch ever had any at all under the current teacher?
First Year 8 Jun 2019, 17:20
+7 -0
We only had LM and Contracts classes regularly throughout the sem tbh. Half of regular torts classes, about 3/4 socio classes and less than 2 digits pol sci classes.
Good Save Us 8 Jun 2019, 17:55
+3 -1
Is it? The attendance sheet of the political scientist shows that [...] has taken more than fifty classes. You can check it.
WTF 7 Jun 2019, 13:30
+5 -4
This is the director who will supposedly standup for NUJS kids

https://m.dailyhunt.in/news/india/english/ed+times-epaper-edtimes/kiit+university+clashes+fight+erupts+between+engineering+law+students+section+144+imposed-newsid-102396050
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 13:56
+15 -4
Why would the vc need to 'stand up' for NUJS students? Are they planning to riot or break laws?
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 16:38
+8 -9
NKC is the culmination of the Trinamool-isation of NUJS. He will dutifully impose domicile quota and get even more TMC people appointed on the EC than Bhat did (rumoured names include TMC lawyer Sanjay Basu and
Garga Chatterjee).

The whole appointment stinks of [...]. Taluk was placed by the TMC for 1.5 years. The VC appointment committee was set up with an ad hoc CJ from Bengal, just before the appointment of Justice Radhakrishnan (who was also NALSAR Chancellor). Then, the selection process was deadlocked for 7 months as the TMC govt (through its two men on the panel) refused to accept Justice Mishra's recommendation of VCV. In the end, Justice Mishra gave up and did not find it worth is time to fight over it. In the meantime, KIIT awarded an honorary doctorate to Mamata, while NKC tweeted in her favour.
nonsense 8 Jun 2019, 00:17
+6 -1
firstly, the the other people on the search committee (that made the final decision) was the advocate general (who let us say is political) and the Acting CJ of Calcutta High Court (Justice Sommadder - who is known for his honesty and not being a TMC follower, unlike many other judges).

Secondly, if Arun Mishra - an SC judge- did infact push so hard for VCV - i cant imagine a world where a sitting HC judge and an AG is going to oppose it so hard and refuse to accept it.

this must be some clueless troll from the justice league.
Willa 8 Jun 2019, 06:43
+4 -0
If this fanciful story is true, then west Bengal government will anyway put someone worse even if students manage to force NKC to go. Where is the scope of argument?

And 3 names were sent. Why did the CJI chose NKC? Is CJI also beholden to Mamata?
Guest 7 Jun 2019, 16:45
+3 -0
He had applied to [...]: [...]
Voice of reason 7 Jun 2019, 17:03
+10 -9
Here is the sensible thing to do. Let a student body rep meet informally with VCV and ask him if he is interested in the job. If yes, a protest should be lodged against NKC's appointment. If not, then the students will have to reluctantly accept NKC and accept that they have been checkmated once again.
shut up 8 Jun 2019, 00:18
+16 -3
dear faculty member,

go fight your battles yourself in the open. dont expect the students to support them.

best,

a disgruntled student who supported you in the past
desperado 8 Jun 2019, 09:04
+3 -0
word
Kala 8 Jun 2019, 06:45
+5 -0
As if the state government will roll over and allow the students to pick a VC
Biriyani addict 8 Jun 2019, 10:34
+6 -0
Students should spend their lives protesting so that faculty members do not have to come and teach and can instead enjoy their time vacationing or applying for jobs at law firms.
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 14:49
+2 -1
Don't protest. Stay silent, pliant and like sheep like you all have been throughout the past 18 months. It's no skin off faculty's back who is made the VC or how much standards drop. They will get their salary and promotions irrespective of that and most of them care about that only. You are the ones whose career and jobs would depend on that eventually.
OldRice 7 Jun 2019, 17:30
+7 -3
I remember that sometime in 2005 NKC had applied to NUJS, but he refused the offer as he was asked to join as an Associate Professor and not given full Professor designation. It's interesting to note that now he will be joining the same institution as it's Vice Chancellor. It must be a very proud moment for NKC. I wish him the very best and hope that he is able to bring some fresh perspective to the 5 acre campus.
Scoop 8 Jun 2019, 00:42
+4 -2
Here is evidence that NKC was rejected for the post of RMLNLU VC. His API score from his alleged 55 journal articles was not good enough. Furthermore, the Telegraph article linked in the above comments says the CU inquiry committee had already found that he had lied about his tacking experience. The RMLNLU committee perhaps found that out.

http://rmlnlu.ac.in/pdf/Notice%20_1-9march18.pdf
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 14:39
+5 -0
If you actually read your own evidence, you'll see that NKC's API score is second highest on the list of 15+ professors. He is out scored by a professor from IIM-Lucknow. Infact, he has twice the score of VVK, now VC at Bhopal.
Literate 8 Jun 2019, 14:55
+3 -0
Try reading for a change, will you? As per the very notice you've referred to, NKC's API score of 2570 is the second highest of all the applicants, second only to a guy from Lucknow! Matlab kuchh bhi!
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 03:53
+2 -2
It is wrong to suggest that NLU alumni teaching at JGLS or NLUD will never leave for NUJS. They may do so under three circumstances:

1. If they are directly given professor rank --- what MP Singh did to attract Sudhir, Manoj Sinha and Shamnad (who was still a PhD student).

2. If they are given are given some sort of shared appointment, e.g. a permanent faculty at NLUD or JGLS, but visiting professor at NUJS.

3. Their hometown is Kolkata( (the reason why some NLU alumni already teach at NUJS).
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 09:09
+6 -0
Had MP Singh tried to do that today, students would be the first to be up in arms about UGC rules being violated. So let's not go there. And if the alumni are that interested, why didn't they apply when professor positions had been advertised back in 2017?
Truthsayer 8 Jun 2019, 10:32
+14 -2
The general students only listen to what they are told by their leaders and faculties, with the versions often contradicting each other. The SJA acts like it is super independent when it is actually batting for a faction of faculty. Did you know that some of the faculty actually authored the long articles and statements which the President and VP put out in their name in papers and publications? The SJA only updates its own friend circle about what is happening and chooses to hold biannual press conferences (GB meetings) where they give vague answers to questions asked by their friends.

No faculty wants to come to NUJS because of the arbitrary manner in which they are treated, assigned subjects that they are not interested to teach and the domination of a certain group of faculty members in every single aspect of the university's functioning. It is not a university as such anymore unfortunately, only a zone of ego clashes which the alumni are well aware of.
Pikachu 8 Jun 2019, 06:49
+4 -7
Students from GB are now giving the surprised Pikachu reaction regarding NKC when this was inevitable given their attitude. When the SJA called a General Body meeting earlier to discuss about the VC selection, only about 30 odd students turned up from a total strength of 600 students. Most GB members are lazy and don't care about what happens to the university as long as they get their 10 lakh+ jobs. Now that this might be at threat, it is too late to repent. You reap what you sow GB
Raichu 8 Jun 2019, 09:35
+11 -3
Students whom you are referring to Pikachu were present in all the GB Meeting called by the SJA. You could confirm this from your boss, he will give you more detailed info about it. Students from 4th & 3rd Year who were concerned about the college attended all the meeting. It was GB Member who pointed out in the meeting that Search Committee 4th member was illegally appointed until then SJA was waiting for the State Government to appoint 4th Member in Search Committee, Kian had earlier published article about delay in VC appointment also.
Pichu 8 Jun 2019, 10:09
+4 -10
Like all others in NUJS, I roll solo and don't believe in having a boss. Not that anyone in the institute has retained the integrity to be treated as one. Thank you for recognizing that I was referring to the last GB meeting. The President also alluded to the shortfall in attendance on the Facebook group so it cannot only be hearsay. Regardless you must accept only few GB members bother to turn up for important meetings and then act tough when things get bad.
Raichu 8 Jun 2019, 10:39
+14 -3
Do you know what's the reason behind minimal attendance in the GB Meeting?

**SJA never bothered to take GB Members along while they were taking crucial decisions. GB Members were not informed about anything until fiasco happend after their impractical decisions. Even SJA Administrative/Press Secretary were not aware about the decisions taken by the SJA 2018-19. Only 2 person can't take decision as per their sweet will.

GB Members got to know about the Search Committee members in September. SJA didn't even bothered to inform GB Members that State Government is delaying the VC Selection Process. So you can't blame GB Members for information asymmetry.

If you remember during 2017-18, majority of GB Members used to turnup for the GB Meeting because they were informed about each and every decisions of the SJA.
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 14:51
+2 -10
You do know that the GB can impeach SJA office bearers if they are not performing according to expectations, right? I mean, as a law student, that much you should know. Did you try doing that ever? Don't put all the blame on those few office holders now. You are equally culpable for any inaction on the SJA's part.
Alum 9 Jun 2019, 12:54
+2 -1
NUJS students really need to stop smoking whatever they are smoking and focus on their own academic credentials. If 'politics destroys educational institutions' needed an example, NUJS would be it.
FA 9 Jun 2019, 12:49
+4 -2
People cribbing about the student body 'taking decisions' or not taking decisions, really need to bury themselves in a corner and introspect.

The student are there to study, plan their career and graduate. Not to deal with your incessant faculty ego fights and bullshits. You couldn't even give them that and blame them for not doing enough for the institution? NUJS would have been much better off without this current set of faculty.
Guest 9 Jun 2019, 13:14
+5 -1
What's stopping students from doing exactly that? Nobody is asking them to write petitions, raise allegations, analyse ugc norms, seek politicians' interventions etc. Just raise concerns when the basic rights are being violated, that's it. Plenty of that going around. Have they stopped playing into the hands of the feuding faculty altogether? They never did! That's where some of the suggestions made by Observer down below make sense. Identify who the few decent faculty left are, listen to their advice when it comes to your own education and career and stick to it. Simple.
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 07:49
+7 -1
Justice League is advising Taimur not to abdicate so easily and drag the process on as long as he can. Meanwhile they are planning to bring their own people in via the Regi and AO positions so that NKC can't do much house cleaning even after je arrives. This is where student pressure should come in. The announcement must be made asap, no need to wait for EC meeting. EC members can always be informed through circulation within a week anyway. The new VC must at least have a say in the selection of the new Regi and AO, since he's the person who'd have to work with them for the next few years! This is a blatant last-ditch effort by Rather Particular and the Consti sen-sation to remain relevan, since they are part of this suspicious sub-committee to finalise new Regi candidate.
Facepalm 8 Jun 2019, 10:14
+4 -2
Should students take up arms against each and every thing? Student action in NUJS is symbolic at best. They like to gain publicity by making human chains. No solutions are found to real problems.

The acting registrar even refused to disburse funds for the mess. Students were literally made to eat watery dal and chawal with even no aachar available on some days. Nobody protested against that since students don't end up paying their own fees. The students are also negligent and complicit in the state of the university in some part.
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 10:32
+5 -1
The refusal to disburse funds for celebrating NUJS night is being shown here as refusal to fund the mess. Such false narratives and fake news!
Liar liar 8 Jun 2019, 14:41
+3 -0
It is not just about funding of NUJS night. At one point of time, the funds of the mess were not sanctioned for over a month and even Metro Cash and Carry refused to provide supplies due to the lack of clearance of dues. Non veg stopped being served for a week or so because there was no money to buy ingredients.
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 15:08
+2 -0
And what did the students do in protest? Precious little apart from recycling petitions.
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 09:20
+2 -7
Petition started against NKC: https://www.change.org/p/chief-justice-of-india-oppose-the-takeover-of-nujs-by-mamata-banerjee-and-the-appointment-of-nk-chakrabarti-as-vc
Petitioner 8 Jun 2019, 10:16
+6 -1
What fruit will your change.org petition yield? Will you print it out and paste it outside the door of the next EC meeting? How creative!
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 10:30
+3 -1
He will send it to local BJP headquarters. Some of the alumni from Delhi who are prominent BJP workers and supporters, are supporting this move as a supposed counter to TMC.
Omg 8 Jun 2019, 14:28
+5 -0
There are 3 signatures on that petition. 3! Can you believe it :)
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 15:05
+5 -0
Enough to topple the state government it seems!
Elector 8 Jun 2019, 15:23
+5 -0
No. Wait till at least 18 signs!
more or less 8 Jun 2019, 17:46
+3 -0
wow 3 whole signatures
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 09:25
+5 -3
Shamnad Basheer's latest tweet: a dig at NKC?

[img]https://i.imgur.com/DKa4jVT.png[/img]
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 10:13
+13 -0
More like at the current and recent administration. But people who desert an institution in its time of need don't get to judge it later. That's what Shamnad did.
Guest 4 8 Jun 2019, 11:32
+5 -0
good................you are great..
Digger 8 Jun 2019, 11:39
+6 -0
Dig.....dig..dig more Sir ji...hua nehin................
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 11:22
+19 -2
The biggest tragedy of NUJS is that the SJA has alienated alumni, in contrast with other NLUs. This happened because some people waged a jihad against iPleaders, while remaining silent about the sins of "Particular" plagiarist, Pop Singer etc. These same people are hostile towards alumni teaching at NUJS, as for them a good prof is one who awards marks generously. SAD.
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 13:31
+4 -1
That is why SJA is now desperately asking alumni to teach as guest faculty for peanuts, but nobody is showing interest now. Everybody knows how the credit courses are treated by students here, with disdain and as grade minting machines where students don't bother to turn up and disrespect the teachers.
Elective 8 Jun 2019, 15:20
+3 -0
35k is not a really bad amount for someone who has recently finished their LLM and seeking to gain 6 months of experience on their CV to increase their chances of employment.
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 15:48
+2 -0
Not for people from outside the state who have to arrange for food and acco. And we are talking about NUJS alumni who'd always have industry options available, not those who are greenhorns with no other options who've chosen academia as a last resort. NUJS currently pays the least to such ad-hoc people among all NLUs, while NALSAR is willing to start with 70k. Why should people not go there?
Budget 8 Jun 2019, 18:35
+2 -0
Not everyone is in it for the money. Some of the people who go for academia either have good financial background which they can rely on or are otherwise not moneyminded. Nevertheless, if the person is willing then they can get 3 proper heavy meals at the mess at the cost of 100 rupees approx per day. Cooking is an option or even keeping a cook will not cost more than 2k in salary and 2k in grocery for one person. Kolkata is less expensive than many other cities so 10k should be good to rent a decent PG room. Plus public transport is great and the individual will have to spend Rs 70 max each day (provided they take AC buses). So taking all this into account, it is not a bad starting salary. Many tier 3 firms which at least some from each batch end up joining also pay similar amounts and people end up managing.
Guest 9 Jun 2019, 00:00
+5 -1
I'm afraid you are being too naive. The sort of lifestyle you are referring to, unless one is highly idealistic or has no other options, they won't be interested in. Case in point, nobody has applied among the llb alumni at least. I accept that some people are not in it for the money, but if someone get similar teaching options with comparable student quality and more helpful admin at twice the salary, why would anyone come here? And I'm sorry to burst your bubble, the sort of 3 meals you'd get for 100 per day isn't the sort you would be having yourself right now. Add to it the fact that NUJS notoriously uses these guest faculty to do even more work than regular faculty who get paid thrice the amount or more, including admin duties etc.
Kuchbhi 8 Jun 2019, 11:49
+12 -0
Arre bhai esko koibhi de do ho jayega....lekin NKC ko nahin. Reason ? very simple: Great Professor and his Chelas donot like him (are bhaiya uska academic quality ko khub beijjat ki thi unnone...very bad).
Alum 8 Jun 2019, 13:52
+13 -0
Saurabh for VC! Best teacher the place has now for a long time, cares about the place the most, spends the most time doing his work and genuinely cares for students! Has a good academic profile, a future star, an NLU alum. These are the sort of qualities that's sorely needed in NLU teachers and admin now.
Really sad 8 Jun 2019, 14:47
+5 -1
I do agree with you in terms of his suitability for such a position. However unfortunately if he sticks on at NUJS for longer he will never be able to fulfill the eligibility. NUJS is infamous for not giving promotions when it is due which is the reason for several assistant professors migrating to other places like MNLU in order to get the Associate Professor post.
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 15:03
+3 -0
Currently according to a faculty member, the UGC scale promotion of over ten faculty members is pending, since no procedure has been followed by the admin in over 4 years almost. And then they wonder why good people don't apply here.
Elective 8 Jun 2019, 15:14
+2 -0
That is probably why faculty members have stopped caring and are offering the same elective subjects in two consecutive semesters. They don't get what they deserve in this institution. Also it is well known that faculty have to hide their research from the university as otherwise they are asked to give the university a substantial cut from their earnings.
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 15:45
+6 -0
And research/funding that requires university approval never becomes reality because of red tapes. UNICEF has now blacklisted the university in fact. Last year the earlier acting regi refused to sign an NOC for a funded project.
2019 batch 8 Jun 2019, 17:07
+6 -0
From what I heard, the recycling is because Justice League wanted one of their own, [...], to get the compulsory subject of [...] that the recycling faculty has been teaching for past few years, hence they removed [...] unceremoniously at the last moment and told [...] to come up with a new paper and course outline in 48 hours! Stands to reason no sane person could do it, hence [...] was left with no other option than to recycle. Such blatant idiocy and nepotism are the norm now anyway.
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 17:29
+4 -0
Heard the same stuff. The beauty of this comment is that despite the censorship, every student and insider would know the people being referred to here.
Harsh volume 8 Jun 2019, 15:07
+13 -2
I am sorry to say this but the last two SJAs have atleast had some role in the chaos which has ensued. Both the SJAs have been hell bent on fulfilling their electoral promises without considering if such moves would be good for the university in the long run. PIB was thrown out, with cause definitely, but with no alternative in mind which has led NUJS into Taluk regime. Thereafter, the former SJA President keeps writing about how the university is failing and gives his two cents about everything happening connected to the university when his spontaneous protest idea had driven the university into a year and half of chaos.
The next SJA was also incredibly opaque as well with both the President and VP busy displaying power (eg President dominated the entire SJA narrative and VP prided herself to be the only one that Taluk would listen to). The rest of the members in SJA had little to no say and were not allowed to communicate with the GB about how the SJA was proceeding. This left the GB which had once rallied behind SJA to drive PIB out crestfallen and uncaring about how things shaped out. No wonder both of the SJA stalwarts decided to step down this time as the GB has seen through their BS.
1st year 9 Jun 2019, 13:03
+1 -2
I think they stepped down because they needed to have what you don't: a life.
BS 9 Jun 2019, 16:38
+3 -1
Haha. Yes they definitely have a life. We will make it a difficult one by asking some tough questions that they will need to answer. Their cozying up to some shady individuals in the faculty has not gone unnoticed. You wait, first year.
Guest 9 Jun 2019, 17:31
+3 -4
You didn't ask them these tough questions during their actual tenure, and are only going to start now, when they are under zero obligations to respond to those? What were you waiting for, last-minute extensions like your projects?
Second Year 9 Jun 2019, 17:41
+2 -1
They stepped down because
"[i]Anyone can fool all the GB Members some of the time, but anyone can't fool all the GB Members all the time[/i]".
Guest 9 Jun 2019, 18:00
+2 -2
Such atrocious grammar! Who's teaching English at NUJS these days, Rather Particular?
Chamcha 8 Jun 2019, 15:08
+5 -0
Going through the CV of the picks for the post of VC of NUJS, sympathize with the intellectual aspirations of those who ganged up against Prof. Bhatt. You got what you deserved.
Observer 8 Jun 2019, 15:25
+19 -1
It is obvious that a feeding frenzy at multiple levels is underway at NUJS. Some observations.

1. Justice and Injustice League are locked in a mortal combat.

2. The outgoing SJA leadership is under fire (rightly or wrongly) and their opponents are going for the jugular.

3. Certain faculty members across both the camps are feeding false, misleading and truncated information to students and alumni because both Justice and Injustice Leagues actually profit if NUJS stays in a state of limbo.

4. Lord Taluk despite protestations doesn't mind staying on. Sensational doesn't want to leave. State patrons to both would love to have them stay on. Indefinitely. It is obvious that present state interests are better served by Lord Taluk and Sensational.

5. While no particular group has secured a decisive edge, Justice League has gained a foothold in key governing structures long denied by PIB. Injustice League is down but not entirely out. With Sensational help and friends elsewhere they have been able to frustrate EC instituted inquiries. Justice League also wouldn't want an exhumation of the Justice PN Sinha Inquiry Report among other things.

I find it strange that Injustice League didn't aggressively use the Justice PN Sinha Report and Justice Shyamal Sen opinion against key members of the Justice League (instead choosing to drone on rather particular plagiarism)? Similarly, it is hard to believe that Justice League haven't been able to get their dear Lord Taluk to complete the inquiries, which would have had disastrous consequences for Injustice League. One actually fled even before the inquiries started.

Have we cared to think why the faculty conduct their fights with kid gloves while reserving the killing blows for students?

6. There are interested outsiders who would love to rule via proxy. The "cooler"ones tweet, lobby in the shadows with the powers that be, get a gaggle of vocal alumni to fire up their juniors, peddle victim stories and other such tricks. The not so cooler ones do things with less class. The simple truth is no one becomes a VC without lobbying and a trade in favours at the expense of students.

VCV lobbyists are self-styled progressives and treat NKC with disdain as expected of elitists. I am not suggesting that NKC is actually better. But he is wronged due to his low glamour quotient. Both appear to be paper tigers. Would have been great had the search committee actually adopted the suggestions made by the SJA.

Remember this well - The path to hell is paved with good intentions. I am not belittling our protests. But are we sure that protesting students are not being used as a pawn in a dangerous game? Not advocating we sit out but reality check, please? If NKC is really that incompetent, he will screw up soon and then suffer a quick exit. We just need to keep a close watch. And if VCV really loves us (at least as much as the protesting students think he does) then he wouldn't mind getting a slightly delayed (choose colour wisely) carpet welcome.

6. Students are raw energy. A force of good that can also be misguided into authoring disasters. Almost everyone in the faculty, administration, governing bodies etc will love to see SJA/student power self-destruct or lose credibility. That will finally leave the field open for all of them to plunder crazy. Our crusade to get a better VC has already been hijacked.

Get smart. Lose ego. And truly listen to peers we disagree with. We are living (in) the university right now. Not the overrated alumni (broadly speaking). We may consult the latter. But we don't need their concurrence. We have our skin in this game of chairs. Alumni only have interests to secure (at least right now). There will be individual exceptions though.

7. PIB got a second term despite change.org and no confidence petitions. Sham moves engineered by PIB-slighted faculty and their alumni acolytes during PIB 1st term were fated to fail. The gaggle has reappeared now. Students are not central to their designs. We are pawns, useful idiots, the necessary pain to suffer for greater private gains later (for them). I would very much welcome if they stop doing things for us. Is it too disrespectful to ask them to do or not do things with us? Please take your proxy battles somewhere else.

8. SJA and students (also many in the alumni) overestimate our capacities. Not to belittle our and SJA efforts in evicting PIB but we now know that his state patrons wanted him gone and we unwittingly let in their agents Lord Taluk and Sensational who really didn't have to try very hard at divide-and-rule. I fear that our misguided (maybe deliberately guided by some in the faculty) protests for VCV and against NKC is putting us on a collision course with the selection committee members and other powerful folks.

I am not suggesting that we quietly accept things. Powerful adversaries needn't be taken head on. We prepare and strike when they are least prepared. Right now the best we can get is a deadlock and the worst (more likely) is a severe crackdown. Remember NUSRL Ranchi? Do we really want to invite that experience and its aftermath? Can we not get smarter? History doesn't auto-repeat. Our actions/omissions cause it to run in a loop.

9. Can we therefore deny further fuel to warring faculty, alumni upstarts (please concentrate on your start-ups), bleeding hearts, concerned academics, self-styled cool dudes, legends and others in the gaggle? That starts with us getting our own house in order.

Whether NKC or VCV, do we know what we (all) need from scholarship, faculty recruitment, hostel accommodation, campus security, transparency, staffing, alumni outreach, fundraising, research etc policies? Are we sure that our "dream" VC will not end up telling us "in your dreams" while making his next move on our fees? VCs have never been and cannot be silver bullets.

10. If there is one thing that the faculty here have taught us is that we shouldn't be them in any and every aspect. Can we therefore stop our internal strife and focus our energies in making lemonades out of the lemon (whatever variety) we are getting?
Alum 8 Jun 2019, 15:56
+7 -0
Fairly spot on re the advice I'd say.
Partner 8 Jun 2019, 17:27
+6 -0
@Observer: Are you a current student? Because if you are and if you are also interested in a law firm job, I'd like to see you on Day Zero. I can sure do with more people with such clarity of thought process at my workplace, even if the explanation was a little long-winded.
Guest 8 Jun 2019, 21:15
+1 -4
Let's pray that NALSAR implements 85% reservation as proposed by the Congress. If that happens NUJS is back in the top 3, NALSAR is out. Also, if NLSIU implements 50% reservation that too will help NUJS.
Guest 9 Jun 2019, 04:34
+4 -0
I don't think you are from NUJS. Notwithstanding all our faults, we don't believe in pulling others down to get ahead of them. That's not how real progress happens. It's about improving one's own.
Hahahah 9 Jun 2019, 06:10
+2 -0
Haha, nice try NLUD . NUJS is clearly in top 3. It’s NLSIU , NALSAR, NUJS. Got to give it to you for trying really subtly.
CLAT 2019 8 Jun 2019, 21:38
+3 -0
I gave the CLAT 2019 and as per my scores and cut-off trends, I will most likely be allotted NUJS. Reading the comments on this post has made me a bit skeptical about joining NUJS if given the chance. Is it worth it to join NUJS given the current state of affairs? And are the conditions really as bad as the people here are pointing out?
I would love to get some advice from law students and other readers who obviously have a lot more insight about the institution and its present conditions than I do.
NUJS Student 9 Jun 2019, 04:25
+8 -1
People who post anonymous vitriol here in Legally India mostly do so from their own jealousy, insecurity or other ulterior motives and have little to do with the truth. Don't worry, it's still a fine place for a student to learn well and choose whatever career suits them and have quite a bit of fun while doing so in course of five years. Looking forward to see you here in the next few days!
Guest 9 Jun 2019, 04:30
+2 -0
Honest answer:

1. If your main interest is getting placed in a corporate law firm, consider placing NUJS after NLSIU. The placements are very good (as they are student driven) and there is a culture of wanting to work for a law firm.

2. If your main interest is judicial services and UPSC, consider placing NLUD after NLSIU. You can attend coaching classes on weekends.

3. If your main interest is human rights activist/academics/alternative careers, consider placing NALSAR after NLSIU. You can see from the Sadhguru incident that NALSAR has a strong left-wing and critical orientation.

4. If your main interest is getting taught by good faculty, consider placing NLUD and JGLS after NLSIU.
Guest 9 Jun 2019, 05:37
+4 -0
I am skeptical about points 3 and 4. Sadhguru incident proved more than the inability of the students involved to properly argue their points, nothing else. Plenty of students from NUJS on graduation have joined and are joining academics and alternative careers. From PRS to Vidhi, the policy research bodies are filled with NUJS alumni. The brainchild of a 4th Year NUJS student, ODRWays, is now the country's flagship online mediation programme, embraced by the Ministry of Justice. NUJS has been producing successful entrepreneurs regularly since 2010. Two Rhodes scholars have graduated in 2017 and 2019 respectively (and earlier too). Same holds for cracking judicial exams and UPSC. Every year, all the top foreign universities have NUJS alumni in their masters programme, be it Oxbridge, Harvard or Columbia. So the impression that NUJS only caters to the law firm crowd is a patently false one.

About 4, I don't really know. A lot have been said in this forum about faculty quality at NLUD and JGLS, but I am yet to see their graduates markedly differ in quality from those of other NLUs. Even assuming that JGLS does not get as many good quality students, that cannot hold true for NLUD. So the faculty there might have been doing great research, but I doubt how much difference they have been making in the classroom compared to other NLUs. There are good people at NLUD of course. As there are in other NLUs too.
Pino 9 Jun 2019, 06:10
+2 -0
Once again, it is high time the proper figures came out about which NLU has the most NLU alumni teaching + graduates of universities abroad. Coaching centres and other uninformed people are spreading misinformation.
While an NLU/foreign degree does not guarantee a good teacher, it increases the probability of it and is undoubtedly a consideration that law aspirants have. I wish LI gets the figures out.
Guest 9 Jun 2019, 06:35
+4 -0
The figure has been stated here since long. It is an undisputed fact that NUJS currently has the maximum number of NLU LLB alumni teaching there in terms of percentage of total faculty strength. 8/30. The names have also been stated in comments to other posts before. JGLS may have more in terms of absolute number, but not as percentage, since they have many more faculty. Can't speak for foreign LLMs though for other places. At NUJS, 9/30 faculty have foreign masters degrees at present.
Guest 9 Jun 2019, 11:49
+1 -1
This needs to be publicised on the website and to coaching centres.
well done 10 Jun 2019, 06:39
+3 -1
He is another Madhava Menon in the making
ThenSS4VC? 10 Jun 2019, 07:01
+6 -2
If you guys have so much problem with the appointment of NKC as VC, why not campaign for SS as the VC. Atleast start a signature campaign. Knowledgeable, Young, Dynamic, Gold Medallist, Popular among students and Alumni, Nice Guy, NUJS Alumni, Non Controversial Figure, Generally Acceptable Person and also a resident of Kolkata - Hence looks like a long term solution. He will have a vision for the University and the University will grow with him.

This post is not meant to criticise NKC or the body appointing him, because does have a formidable CV and experience by his side, which is why the appointment.
MA Student 10 Jun 2019, 12:03
+5 -1
As a student of the NUJS's MA in Business Law distance learning course conducted by the SDME (School of Distance and Mass Education), I am shocked at how badly this course has been conducted over the past two years. I am in the final semester of the course and like any other student, I have completed all the examinations and assignments alloted to me up till now - I have only one final exam and one assignment left. I am from the June 2017 batch.

In 2017, I was under the impression that NUJS was a good national law school and the couse, MA in Business Laws helped me gain an insight into the legal world with a focus on business law.

From all that I've read and gathered till now, it is a shame that a law univerisity (which supposedly teaches students how to interpret and study law) did not even tell its students like me why the course was shut off and what will happen to the money that thousands of students like me have paid for this course. They just put up a notice on the website stating that the courses have been suspended.

This is extremely unbecoming of a law school of such (allegedly) good repute. Either the university should refund my fees (Rs. 50,000) or they should go ahead an grant my degree to me (provided I complete all the requirements needed for completion of the course).

Shame on all the people who have been part of this decision to alienate students like me.

I will never recommend this law school to anyone I know.
Guest 10 Jun 2019, 12:17
+9 -1
Kian, the ex-SJA president and his senseless vendetta against those courses are also equally responsible for this. Since I saw you asking in another post what were people's problems with that person.
MA Student 10 Jun 2019, 12:30
+5 -2
You are right. I have a problem with the university and the SJA. I've been following pages of Legally India since a year now and some of the comments have been extremely harsh.

For example, I read that someone was very happy that "lesser mortal" students like us (who aren't pursuing their flagship BA/BSc LLB courses) weren't students of NUJS and they were getting into a mess by signing up for these courses and because the SJA deemed fit that these courses were substandard in nature, they have to be shut down immediately.

What a ridiculous approach to solve this problem.

I've always been thinking of upskilling myself. I did my engineering, then I got a degree in economics, and now I thought this business law course will be good for me.

To be honest, it was a good course (while it lasted). The exams which I gave were totally online and was monitored through my webcam. The course content was decent - you cannot expect it to be top notch since it was one of the first courses to be conducted fully online.

Instead of encouraging education being spread to masses like me, the administration along with the snooty SJA (directed to these who deemed fit to suggest closing the course immediately), decided to take the money from students and ignore mails from us when we asked them what was happening.

Why do you guys want education to be elitist? Is that what you are trying to say to students like us who want to learn? It's very sad.
Guest 10 Jun 2019, 20:47
+2 -2
It is a LIE the VCV is not interested in NUJS and will head to NLUD. The VCship of NLUD is very competitive and he may not get the job, so he is keen on NUJS. He can still be brought in if NKC's nomination is challenged (allegations in Telegraph article, inferior credentials compared to VCV etc).
Guest 11 Jun 2019, 05:16
+2 -1
Just look at the supposed grounds of challenge! Vintage JL stuff!
Veep 11 Jun 2019, 10:44
+1 -4
Explains a lot of vitriol being spewed here by a section of the faculty

https://www.thestatesman.com/supplements/law/distance-education-mess-1502764247.html
Guest 11 Jun 2019, 14:20
+4 -1
What makes you so confident that someone commenting here are your faculty? Did they tell you they have been doing it, or did you trace the IP address, or is it all a product of your fertile imagination?
Guest 11 Jun 2019, 14:22
+3 -0
People these days cite opinion pieces as facts or evidence. And here these are people with legal training. Matlab Evidence classes kiye nahin, woh theek hai, sirf common sense hi use karlo kabhi kabhi!
Dig 11 Jun 2019, 15:01
+8 -5
SCOOP: I found a video of NKC. He is giving a video lecture as part of UGC Pathshala (which is normally done by junior academics, but anyway). In terms of communication skills, he appears to be a Bengali version of PIB. And he is certainly not high-profile in terms of academic reputation. That leaved administrative acumen, of which there is no great track record. Is the SJA sure that they want this person instead of VCV?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrKIDQUSYWQ[/youtube]
Guest 11 Jun 2019, 18:04
+3 -7
Before criticising another person's academic profile or record, one should present one's own to establish one's credentials and suitability to judge another's. Care to start with your own? Go on, we are all waiting.
Second Year 12 Jun 2019, 04:51
+5 -2
So, as per your logic students can't criticise the academic and administrative credentials of the NKC. Only, VC of other NLU can question his credentials?
What's wrong with you bro!
Guest 12 Jun 2019, 06:01
+1 -4
No, 'bro', that was not my logic at all, but it seems you have already forgotten your sense of logic just in one year since CLAT if that's what you got from the comment. Let me break it down for you step-by-step, real easy. For example, if you criticise Kohli's batting skills and ABD does that too, there will still be a difference between the quality of two criticisms and the way people would perceive the two, right? That doesn't mean both of you can't offer your individual criticism. Now imagine both of you are doing it anon. So, people have a right to know which criticism comes from an expert in the field and which one comes from a noob. Nothing wrong with a noob offering criticism, but people also have a right to know it to be from one such. Hence before offering anon criticism, critic should divulge his own level of expertise in the matter being discussed. I hope you got all that, 'bro'. Maybe you would have sooner if you spent less time here and more on your studies.
Guest 11 Jun 2019, 18:11
+4 -7
@Dig: We all know you're a JL member. Go and finish evaluating your answerscripts please, so that our results can be declared, instead of trying to rile up students to sabotage someone because he doesn't fit into your petty agendas.
Momta Didi 12 Jun 2019, 07:50
+3 -2
@Guest You are TMC party worker. Please stop wasting your time here. Instead start preparing for Legislative Assembly Elections.
Kyunki Sab Borbod ho gaya!!
Guest 12 Jun 2019, 10:20
+2 -3
Awww...when all else fails, they bring in politics. Not sufficient education though, as is apparent from your language.
Clueless 11 Jun 2019, 20:08
+2 -0
Can someone please clarify who are the members of Justice and Injustice Leagues. I am assuming that JL are people who can be found milling around Lord Taluk (hence the name). And IL are folks who are mostly facing inquiries. Correct?

But why would JL go against NKC? I know quite a few JL members have vocal in their preference for VCV. In contrast, many IL members feel that they will be able to "manage" NKC better. Some others in IL lobby are known to be friendly with NKC (which may explain why some in JL don't want him) but have actually been instigating a select band of students against NKC.

I think @Observer made some pretty good observations. And if I read Observer correctly at no point did that person recommend speaking to any "decent" faculty members for advice, instead suggesting that students should abandon their ego and truly listen to their peers including those we may disagree with. Faculty and others, JL or IL are self-serving.
Guest 12 Jun 2019, 06:15
+5 -0
There are still people among the faculty who don't belong to either JL or IL and frankly can't care any less about the rivalry between factions. It's not essential for the students to take any advice from them though. You have identified the main problem facing the students correctly, ego. Even among students, those who get power or leadership suddenly start believing that they know better than their peers. The SJA was never meant to be a close body working like a military clique. The GB has a right to know and discuss every move and action that SJA makes on their behalf. I don't really believe we students in general ask for much in a law school. Basic campus security, regular classes by teachers who actually know what they are teaching regardless of their credentials, hygienic mess, adequate rooms in hostel, decent library, possible funding opportunities for co-curricular activities, opportunities for internships and placement. None of these is difficult to attain nor unreasonable to ask for. The trouble starts when these are denied too and instead of campaigning about these issues, our reps start getting embroiled in politics and make our demands people-specific, while at the same time, those in power start believing they can keep us quiet by short term sops like grace marks, attendance, inflated grades etc. Same thing had happened during PIB's removal. We were given an impression that once he leaves, everything would fall in place. He might have been a grade A douche, but he wasn't solely responsible for every problem that we had been facing. The key is to make our demands issue-specific, without any care about who grants those demands so long as they are met. NKC, VKV, I don't care, nor do I care how many publications the VC has since I can't very well mention those in my CV and nor can you. I just think that whoever comes would have to meet these demands, or else pack his bags and make away for another.
Guest 11 Jun 2019, 22:26
+2 -2
Some desperate TMC trolls trying to defend NKC and spread misinformation that VCV will get NLUD... won't work, boys....we will oppose the decision to install NKC and demand VCV.
Newsbreak 11 Jun 2019, 23:45
+1 -0
https://www.telegraphindia.com/states/west-bengal/domicile-row-bengal-government-overrules-jee-board-s-constraints-in-ju/cid/1692181?ref=india_home-template

NUJS students instigated by Faulty don't understand that the state doesn't care if it is taken to the court. A quick search of Calcutta and Delhi HCs will show numerous active cases against NUJS


As @Observer rightly put it, a full-on, pitched battle with the state makes no sense. And we already know that the judiciary isn't really going to back us up. It has enough problems of its own.

NUJS in an extended state of limbo as @Observer puts it suits almost everyone - Justice and Injustice Leagues, Sensational and her friends in the EC, Lord Taluk and the state. They expect to frustrate the students into submission or even better, provoke them into doing something stupid.

It is in our interest to ensure that Registrar and AO positions are quickly filled up by permanent recruits so that no one can claim "Acting/Interim/Ad hoc" status to shirk responsibility while facilitating scams and stealthy state encroachment.

The longer the unholy trinity of Lord Taluk, Sensational and AO are allowed to continue in their offices, NUJS will get increasingly into trouble. Lord Taluk may want to scoot asap. The other two know that ***t comes before ****t.
and will
Guest 12 Jun 2019, 06:21
+2 -1
Agree. At the same time, there is no reason why the Regi and AO need to be selected by the current regime even before the new VC comes, since his name has been declared already. It can be done within a month or less after the new VC comes. JL people are trying to handpick the contenders now and just like themselves, the people they select are likely to be abysmal. People from JL themselves have applied for those posts. No reason why we can't have Registrars and FO's with management degree that would help to get this place sorted. This inane practice of having academics as registrars is a lot of drivel and meant to promote nepotism. Academics are not suited for such jobs barring rare exceptions. There are actually people from IIM who have applied for those posts and they should be given precedence over any internal people or retired old bones.
Guest 12 Jun 2019, 07:18
+1 -3
Friends, please ignore the NKC-TMC trolls. NUJS students have the right to get a good VC and one such person was in the shortlist but wrongly overlooked. This is the REAL issue now which students must fight for.
Guest 12 Jun 2019, 07:52
+2 -0
Students know what issue they should fight for without you having to spoon feed them, o anon troll. Now go away, shoo!
Newsbreak 12 Jun 2019, 14:01
+2 -2
https://www.livelaw.in/columns/plagiarism-in-ailet-nlu-delhi-entrance-test-2019-145599

By the way, there are people who keep droning about rather particular instances of plagiarism and even provided screengrabs of Turnitin reviews. Now pray tell us why did you not pursue a written complaint against such a person? Did you write to Lord Taluk? Did he decline? Did you then approach the Chancellor and/or EC members? Why don't you do it right now instead of trying to burden Arjun?

As far I know Arjun was not spoon fed anything on distance education. He did his own research based on available governing body minutes etc. [...] Since then many in the faculty have wielded that blackmailing tactic on inconvenient students, sparingly. Of course, there are students who don't learn.
Guest 12 Jun 2019, 16:01
+1 -0
Why don't you name the concerned faculty and student involved in such blackmailing efforts instead of making allegations without proof? And your as far as you know isn't far at all. He was given info by other insiders. Not that it makes the info less accurate for that reason. A lot of the contents of his petitions and op-eds are without proof and any legal evidence at all, though. Which is why no action can and ever will be taken on those allegations. But I agree with your point about Arjun not owing it to anyone to report plagiarism of any faculty. Anybody who knows about it but isn't taking any steps is equally culpable, faculty or student. With the possible exception of the argument that other faculty aren't affected directly if their colleague is sub-standard, students probably are.
Guest 12 Jun 2019, 18:51
+1 -6
Say no to TMC and NKC!
Proofreader 13 Jun 2019, 04:36
+4 -1
Honest question: Is there any evidence at all of this guy being close to TMC or any leaders of that party, apart from those two old and frankly mild tweets that he had made about Mamata's success when she had become CM? I won't be surprised to find out that he is thus, just that I do not want to make up my mind without sufficient facts. From what I have heard from people inside NUJS, the government sympathisers actually wanted SS Chakrabarti as the VC, which didn't happen because of the SC judge in the panel who put his foot down. Now if that is true, then it stands to reason that he might have done the same for NKC too if he was aware of such a nexus. He has also been working outside Bengal for over a decade now, ever since Mamata had come to power. So how close can he be to the ruling party under such circumstances, honestly? If someone says that he is actually a weak person who can be pushed around by the government at will, then that's a different proposition altogether.
#SaveNUJS 13 Jun 2019, 01:55
+2 -7
Please please oppose NKC and support VCV. Ignore the lies that VCV is headed to NLUD (he won't get it, the post will go to a public law scholar). Under, VCV NUJS has a great chance of rising again. The students were silent when NS Gopalakrishnan was overlooked for PIB all those years ago. Do not make the same mistake again! The TMC vultures are at the door. Shoo them away!
Guest 13 Jun 2019, 06:26
+3 -2
Who says VCV won't do what the government asks him to either? Do you have any evidence of him having ever resisted external interference at the places he's been in charge of? If so, please share. Before opposing candidate X and rooting for candidate Y, one should be sure of everything about both X and Y.
Muckraker 13 Jun 2019, 12:55
+6 -2
I agree with @Guest 63.1 and Proofreader. The NKC video shows that he may not speak clipped English. But it fails to prove that he has no domain knowledge. His naysayers till now are simply peddling elitist crap. Yes, he has no background teaching in NLUs. MKS (a favourite with quite a few) also didn't have any till he joined NUJS. And MKS also speaks funny. But MKS knows his subject well. MKS had no prior law school admin experience when he was made ILI Director.

NKC has spent a lifetime teaching law. He has held admin positions in CU Law. And has been a Director of KIIT Law for a decade. Now we may of course debate whether he had a stellar record as a teacher and administrator. Compared to that VCV has mostly been on the teaching side and his so-called Dean/VC-ships have been mostly blink-and-miss. VC positions are mostly about administration.

NKC apparently faced an inquiry when he was in CU Law. What was the outcome? Do we have the inquiry report? How did those muckrakers miss these?

https://www.legallyindia.com/lawschools/nalsargate-download-full-judicial-report-on-gold-meddles-distance-learning-a-scorpions-nalsarites-call-off-protest-20120203-2548

https://www.legallyindia.com/analysis/nalsargate-the-inside-story-of-an-institution-and-a-secret-report-20120205-2549

VCV name cropped up in connection with irregularities in distance education programmes. Soon after the release of this URC report, VCV made a quick exit along with some others from NALSAR.

Many did not know (and could care less) Faizan Mustafa when he led KIIT Law and later NLUO. In both places his short stints didn't have earth shattering examples of teaching or admin excellence. And yet FM made it to NALSAR and a well known (self-styled?) bleeding heart. FM, who apparently can do no wrong had also strongly lobbied for the discredited ex-NLIU Director, Prof SS Singh for CNLU VC-ship. He has also batted in favour of another problematic VC https://www.legallyindia.com/lawschools/rgnul-students-nalsar-vc-politely-engage-after-faizan-argued-ncw-didn-t-follow-natural-justice-in-campus-inquiry-20190521-10331

FM journey shows that "unknown" folks can do wonders to an institution despite their funny accents, lack of spoken prowess and other things that make up the elitist glam quotient. And then people having all those things can be big let downs. MoGo was one at NLSIU. For more recent proof, just check in with RaGa (assuming he has realised it) or senior folks in Congress.

Do we really need to become a political football so that both JL and IL profit at our expense?

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/mamata-banerjee-visits-protesting-doctors-asks-them-to-end-strike-in-4-hours-5778687/

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/trends/bengal-doctors-remain-defiant-as-cm-mamata-banerjee-threatens-suspension-4094041.html
Proofreader 13 Jun 2019, 14:46
+6 -0
Amen to that, brother/sister/other.
Guest 13 Jun 2019, 18:30
+0 -1
BREAKING NEWS: Hitler Mamata has made a comment (below) saying that she will impose a domicile quota in medical colleges to prevent "outsiders" from studying (in repose to the doctor's strike). She is creating a similar divide in NUJS. The SJA must file a PIL in the SC demanding the abolition of the quota and beg NLSIU to join hands. Secretly, I hope that the domicile quota is impose in NLSIU so they are forced to act.


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iZdoCx8_Jg[/youtube]
Informer 13 Jun 2019, 20:40
+3 -3
It has been made abundantly clear by the judiciary that they are fine with states imposing quotas. In NUJS, did the "Justices" even squeak a murmur of dissent when the state introduced the 30% quota? They didn't mind that the issue was not discussed in the EC before or after the introduction of the amendment. And you really think juridification will help? Judges read political tea leaves much better than you and I do. That's how they get elevated anyway.

Apparently NITs generally and the IIEST in Bengal already have a 50% state quota. JU has brought in a 90% state quota for its engineering seats and surprisingly, it was the state JEE Board that wanted the implementation deferred this year since it feared court litigation. It was overruled by the education department, and we know that Edu Secy who sits on NUJS EC will be singing HMV. He is leaving for Delhi in any case and not returning anytime soon as the Chief Secy position will be taken over by the current Home Secy in Oct 2018.

No political party (yes including Bhakt Jan Party) will go against a state quota since they have indulged in it as well. The only way we can make a jab at it is on grounds of procedural integrity, rational nexus to the objective, legislative overbreadth etc - all narrow technical grounds.

Election season has actually begun in Bengal and expect more changes. Whether such things will actually accrue benefits in the electoral hustings is a different debate. Provoking Didi without first building defensive capacities was always a stupid initiative by a section of students egged on by self-serving Faulty.

It now seems @Observer was right all along. We have walked into a trap set by the Faulty. I think we still have time to pull back and strategise. But that will require all of us to shed our inflated egos. Don't count on Faulty.
Guest 14 Jun 2019, 05:23
+3 -0
So long as bulk of the students expect to get fake attendance, inflated grades, project extension and flowery reco letters from the faculty, their reliance on those people and propensity to get manipulated won't reduce. Regardless of what you may preach.
Guest 13 Jun 2019, 21:57
+4 -1
NUJS students must show solidarity with the striking medical students. Students of all top universities in Bengal (IIM, IIT, ISI etc) must unite and protest against Talibani Mamata.
Guest 13 Jun 2019, 23:46
+3 -4
NUJS please join the medical students strike. It is time to unite and bring down this demon dictator. You will also get more coverage if you go on strike now, as the national media is focusing on Kolkata. The demand is simple: VCV, not NKC.
Guest 14 Jun 2019, 03:22
+5 -2
Will you give it a rest already? It's clear your sole agenda is to incite students and manipulate them to confront the government to suit your own petty interests. If you want to strike, go and do it, nobody's stopping you. And if you love VCV so much, go and join Bennett. He is still there, last I heard.
Guest 14 Jun 2019, 03:10
+2 -3
[b]Bengal Will Amend Laws to Bring More Local Students to Medical Stream, Says Mamata Banerjee
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https://www.news18.com/news/india/bengal-will-amend-laws-to-bring-more-local-students-to-medical-stream-says-mamata-banerjee-2185557.html

NUJS is next unless the SJA grows a spine. See the video of this brave girl (student at NRS medical college) burn Hitler Didi's effigy [AUTHENTICITY CONTESTED]. The students also booed Mamata when she visited campus. NUJS students should similarly stand up.

[video moderated]
Guest 14 Jun 2019, 07:04
+5 -1
This video is a fake one. As in it's not the CM's effigy that's being burnt. Kian, please censor the same. Not that I care about Ms. Banerjee, but no kind of fake news should be encouraged.
Guest 14 Jun 2019, 07:44
+2 -2
Kian, the video is NOT fake. You can clear hear chants of Mamata hai hai. and see her face on the effigy. Sad that you are listing to paid TMC trolls.
kianganz 14 Jun 2019, 07:52
+3 -1
It's very hard for us to fact check where the video is from, when it was taken, whether it's really medical students, etc. I think to some extent, it may also be preferable to avoid the LI comments section getting too politicised and vitriolic, since that's already all over social media. So we may err on the side of caution in moderating comments (and particularly videos) that are flagged by other readers as potentially fake.
Guest 14 Jun 2019, 08:01
+2 -3
The video was shared by the BJP Spokesman. https://twitter.com/amitmalviya/status/1139203841864417281

I agree LI should not be too politicised but please understand that the corruption and misgovernance at NUJS is linked to the lager issue of misrule by Mamata Banerjee.
Guest 14 Jun 2019, 09:14
+3 -1
Only in your head. People at NUJS would blame everybody else under the sun for their own problems instead of introspecting or owning up culpability for their own mistakes. Be it students, teachers or admin stuff.
Guest 14 Jun 2019, 09:22
+2 -2
Since when is the touchstone of authenticity linked to something being shared by politicians?
Muckraker 14 Jun 2019, 08:53
+1 -2
I disagree with the provocation that troubles in NUJS are linked to troubles with/within TMC. I have heard from seniors how NUJS was packed with Reds despite the so-called promise of autonomy by Mr Jyoti Basu. How crores were squirelled out and accounts dressed up due to intervention by the Reds. However, I will agree that scams in NUJS have always received patronage by agents of state, irrespective of the party in power.

I am told that NUJS doesn't even blip on Didi's radar. But it is a big deal for some of her minions who grace the EC. Don't we all know how certain EC friends of Lord Taluk and Sensational have taken unprecedented interest in NUJS and unsurprisingly the inquiries have gone nowhere (rather haywire in some instances); active suppression of investigations into faculty recruitment irregularities and burial of the Calcutta HC instituted Justice PN Sinha Inquiry Report. Yet these very "honourable" people are obsessed about annexe building construction; 7th CPC payouts to DEOs (and faculty) despite crores in overpayments etc.

As @Observer rightly put it we need to prepare ourselves first; have alternate plans; and then strike when our opponents are least prepared. Right now they are ready but we are not.
Old Alumni, 14 Jun 2019, 09:56
+4 -1
Don't talk rot. Jyoti Basu had his faults but NUJS was his brainchild and he (and Buddhadeb Bhattacharya) took care not to interfere and let Menon/Chimni/Singh nominate very eminent and neutral people to the governing bodies --- KKV, Gopal Subramanian, Dipankar Gupta, Justice Chitatoosh Mukherjee, RK Raghavan, professor TK Oomen, scientist Raja Ramanna, the IIM Calcutta director (ex officio), journalist CR Irani etc.

In comparison, Mamata nominated her astrologer and some third-rate TMC people.

You say: "I have heard from seniors how NUJS was packed with Reds despite the so-called promise of autonomy by Mr Jyoti Basu." I can guess the person who took you-- a known chela of the current admin who gossips with students and then backstabs them.
Guest 14 Jun 2019, 10:02
+3 -2
Just now Mamata has given a divisive speech condemning "Outsiders" who are not Bengali. She is imposing her domicile quota poison across universities.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/MJbPoF6.png[/img]
Guest 14 Jun 2019, 11:56
+1 -2
[img]https://i.imgur.com/227LWKj.png[/img]
Guest 14 Jun 2019, 12:11
+7 -2
Kian, why exactly are purely political developments that has no bearing with the original story, being made part of this post? I mean, I don't have any issue with the comments, just slightly surprised to see them here. You can very well cover such developments in a separate post and all these comments can go there.
Guest 14 Jun 2019, 14:39
+15 -0
Keep it about the law school, people. Don't fall into the trap of all these people with vested interests, be it TMC or BJP or anyone else. That's what signals the death-knell for institutions. Everyone who is instigating students one way or another has his own agenda that doesn't include student or institutional welfare. Some of them keep flocking to the comments section every day, posting under different nom de plumes or plain anon to keep stirring things up.
Guest 15 Jun 2019, 06:55
+1 -2
See what the TMC has now tweeted following Mamata's speech! This guy is also expected to join the NUJS EC this year.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/aXYjAe6.png[/img]
Guest 15 Jun 2019, 08:51
+2 -0
JU would still continue to be an IOE despite this. And NUJS would still continue to excel.
Guest 15 Jun 2019, 09:13
+2 -1
No. JU will not be an IOE because of this. The media said it too.
Guest 16 Jun 2019, 00:46
+4 -6
I am shocked how the SJA is not demanding that NKC at least disclose the findings of the CU probe against him, as reported in the Telegraph. Suppose he was found guilty, do you want scholarships such a person as the VC?
Guest 16 Jun 2019, 07:25
+6 -0
The onus isn't on him. If you are that worried, file an RTI before CU and get the info, who's stopping you?
Guest 16 Jun 2019, 07:26
+2 -0
Yes, because media is the arbiter of IOE every year. This isn't Stardust Film awards, o Cassandra. Are you the astrologer whom the Bengal CM loves to be able to predict future with such accuracy?
Guest 16 Jun 2019, 10:48
+1 -0
Sorry, comment 76.2 was actually in response to 75.1.1.
Knowledge 17 Jun 2019, 10:55
+3 -0
The situation will not improve under any VC as the students are basically strong bullies. They recently bullied a teacher so much that she decided to not offer a scheduled course during the semester. This shows that students are ever powerful in the world of NUJS. No VC can stop them.
Guest 27 Jun 2019, 09:29
+1 -0
It seems NKC was taken to court by TMC man SSC a decade or so ago, challenging NKC's promotion to professor at CU. NKC was represented in court by a lawyer cum Left politician. SSC has always been a TMC man. But was NKC a Left man before Mamata came to power?

https://indiankanoon.org/doc/1587801/
Guest 27 Jun 2019, 11:11
+1 -0
That lawyer is one of the top ones in Calcutta in service law related matters, including departmental promotions. Don't read too much into it. Even TMC people go to him.