GNLU Gandhinagar director Bimal Patel is now a member of the Law Commission of India, reported Live Law.
Patel confirmed to Live Law that he has been appointed as a part-time member of the commission, and said: “It would be my earnest endeavour to make a very meaningful contribution to the realization of the aims and objectives of the 21st Law Commission of India.”
His Wikipedia page states: “The Government of India appointed has also recently appointed him as a member of the 21st Law Commission of India with Justice Balbir Singh Chauhan, retired Judge of the Hon’ble Supreme Court of India as its chairperson.”
The Gujarat high court recorded adverse observations against Patel in May, noting that GNLU had turned into an oligarchy with little regard for the human rights of its students, under Patel and certain other staff members.
The judgment in GNLU’s appeal against the May order has been reserved.
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As a faculty in GNLU once said about BimPa, "What's the point talking about a person who doesn't know the difference between a latest case and a leading judgment."
The judgment is also reserved.
I request Kian to look into a certain member of the GNLU staff (if that's what they call it - (...). It's about damn time that the world knows the role (...) played in one of the greatest recruitment scams ever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bimal_N._Patel
Its just so pathetic to see you trying to infiltrate sites like legally India and show the great dictator (lol i mean director) is such a great man
As for the publications, he makes the students do compulsory reports and publishes them as his own. It is pure abuse of power. He's just lucky that no one has come forward with proof, and when someone does, which someone surely will, you'll be forced to eat some humble pie. In fact, I hope you choke on it.
I am GNLU faculty. I stand with Prof Patel and majority of GNLU students is with us.
We salute Shri Narendra Modi ji for the decision to include Prof Patel in Law Commission. We are proud of Prof Patel.
This grammatical error gives me some sense of who this GNLU faculty is.
In fact, use of phrases like "...satyamev jayate..." point to one man.
Any guesses, my fellow compatriots?
All the other equivalent websites have also reported this law commission development with a critique on the observations of the high court against the director.
then why have you singled out LegallyIndia? Are you also, like your director, only interested in singling out those who are not amenable to demands???
Your comment would give an impression that LI has some bias against BimPa, but when the reporting of the law commission development is seen on 2 other equivalent websites, one would realize that all three have correlated it with the high court's verdict.
Looks like just as Bimal Patel singled out Jaymin Brambat, you -gnlu faculty- have singled out Legally India.
you are the epitome of injustice gnlu faculty. you. yes you.
I hope you're happy being in the same club as hitler, mussolini, idi amin, kim il sung, donald trump, joffrey baratheon, kingslayer, cersei lannister and bimal patel
"Prof Patel is the only VC educated abroad and has PhD from prestigious Leiden University, and is renowned jurist." -- Prof. Patel? Seriously? Firstly, he is not a Professor, so as a faculty member, maybe you should use the right terminology. Moreover, he is in no way a jurist. You and I both know how GNLU functions, regardless of what you say here behind a generalized moniker. Knowing the quality of the faculty in GNLU, I'm sure you're looking at a dictionary right now.
Lastly, you get in the Govt. Bold move, sir/ma'am! Really mature of a faculty in a National Law University. Bravo! Forget Legally India. Anyone would mark GNLU faculty low, except for maybe the faculty which teach Contracts, Constitutional Law, Environmental Law and Political Science. All the rest of you, I'm sorry to say, have failed us miserably. We seriously and genuinely looked up to you all once, but here you are, fighting the students who make the institution. Remember, it is us alumni who make the institution what it is, and you have no role whatsoever in shaping our careers, except giving us "goodness marks" and constantly moral policing us instead of engaging and inspiring us.
Just because you say Satyameva Jayate does not mean you are saying the truth, and this house of cards that is the GNLU administration will one day come crashing down, for the level of incompetence in running the institution is visible.
Side note: Did anyone know that Grey Parikh, the architects on the new GNLU campus is a blacklisted firm in Ahmedabad? Research. Research.
let me point our your mistakes:
1."slap in the face of legally India...." doesn't make any sense, try to think in English and please don't translate from hindi to english. Please talk like an educated person, because you sound like an uncouth terrorist to be honest.
2. "and is renowned jurist" should be written as " and is A renowned Jurist"
3. "why are you not telling that?" this is a site where articles are published you dolt, so you should write " why don't you mention that, or why don't you publish that"
4." I am GNLU faculty" Don't you understand the concept of articles? You should write "I am A Gnlu faculty"
Lastly no Gnlu student would stand with you, this horrible administration and such a [...] person such as Bimal M Patel, atleast they didn't when I was in the university.
How dare you even suggest a boycott? who do you think you are? the world wide web and content circulated on it is not a subsidiary of GNLU-LLP (Limited Liability Patelship). You fear psychosis will not work on the internet.
I didn't agree or like what you wrote. But i will defend to my last breath your right to say what you want to say. If you are so keen on proving your Fuhrer right why dont you convince him to give a press release or an interview to all major media outlets so that his side of the story can also be known? if i am not mistaken, BimPa has never responded to LI or B&B or LL's requests for a comment. Why the silence?
SILENCE IS THE SIGN OF ACCEPTANCE, DARLING.
Love you.
xoxo
muah
Biased Kian:
Dear Kian,
Why won't you add the comments which actually defend GNLU in a way?
You are worse than Pankaj Nihalani. At least he was ready to pass Udta Punjab with some cuts, you on the other hand won't show the comment at all.
Sad. Lost respect for you. Do something.
Leave it to the wisdom of the readers to decide if its apt or not.
*Correction: it should be Pahlaj Nihalani*
Kian:
There's only one comment that wasn't published, but that was a personal attack against an individual, which is hardly the same as defending GNLU...
Some of the points may have been validly made, but they were certainly not expressed in such a way...
*END*
So much for Right to Say. Who's the fuhrer when he wants me to express myself in a certain "way"? He can allow all sorts of insults towards the Director and some of the faculty, but not this.
The reporting of LegallyIndia does suggest they are interested in showing GNLU in bad light.
Surely a bit of background about the petitioner, and the following FACTS should help the readers understand this "crusade" against the "corrupt" administration:
1. [...] (QT - he was giving the 3rd/4th repeat of it), [...]
2. the only reason why he filed this case was that he was going to get an year back.
3. his father, who is an influential IPS officer, [...] (for eg.: CLAT rank 23654 - NRI Status - NONE in the merit list, still admission to GNLU, possibly through NRI quota/vacancies left by foreign nationals(6 seats/year)).
[...]
4. The "human rights violating oligarchy" tag - the hon'ble judge who made this adverse remark. [...] the huge contrast between the line of thinking of the division bench, which wants a "middle way" solution.
5. You may say its not about jaymin but about the "broader" issue of "corrupt" administration. I agree, but it is a fact that most of the people who are in this "crusade" are those who have some or the other grudge against the university on account of some disciplinary action against them. [...] I agree that some processes in the university may be improved, but no university is utopian and there will be problems for sure, it does not mean that we try to disparage the university to satisfy our personal grudges.
Kian, I beg you to put this up in all its entirety, and leave it to the wisdom of the readers to decide if its apt or not. I am sure there will be interesting insult filled rebuttals to this, and there should be, but at least put this up.
The main facts as I see them are:
1. The high court said GNLU was run like an oligarchy. That can be taken at face value to some extent - if we can not trust the remarks made by a high court on this matter after a full hearing, with competent senior counsel having represented GNLU, we're going into dangerous territory. It's also not the first adverse remark made by a court against GNLU, nor the first incident of authoritarian behaviour by the administration.
2. Re the petitioner's CLAT rank. We're still trying to find out more details, but if all this is true it casts an even worse light on the administration than on the petitioner...
3. Even if accepting your argument, two wrongs don't make a right. The petitioner might be partly to blame and likewise the administration of GNLU may at the same time be a dictatorial oligarchy.
Finally, do ask yourself - how is it that the vast majority of GNLU alumni one speaks to will have similar stories and grouses about GNLU and Dr Patel?
It is very difficult to put across points defending GNLU in the biased environment of LI's articles, and the arguments being redacted for flimsy reasons.
With regard to comments being redacted for possible contempt of court, I really don't think what is said in an anonymous comments section of an online reporter would have any such implications; and no responsibility would be attributed to you, given your "read at your own risk" disclaimer.
In any case, i want to ask that if you are not biased and report impartially, why weren't the following comments redacted? Where is the evidence for the following excerpts that have been allowed, which are defamatory in nature:
You can allow all these "inferences" for some reason without any evidence, but not those against the petitioner.
(These have been taken from 3 articles of LI itself).
1. "As a faculty in GNLU once said about BimPa, "What's the point talking about a person who doesn't know the difference between a latest case and a leading judgment.""
2. "I hope you're happy being in the same club as hitler, mussolini, idi amin, kim il sung, donald trump, joffrey baratheon, kingslayer, cersei lannister and bimal patel"
3. "Dr. Patel with all his great achievements like publishing a book with articles written by students in his name and his degrees, has reached this position of power only due to his being on the right side of the honourable PM."
4. "He and his wife keep harassing students and other employees like drivers, wardens, mess workers and even certain good faculty members."
5. "Bimpa has blessings of BJP"
6. "These people are not just evil (because their brains always come up with anti-student measures by default). They are stupid and incompetent by elephantine proportions."
7. "Yes, I'm not just talking about appointment of unqualified faculty or Bimal's wife n niece being on GNLU payrolls or the large chunks of our money that Bimal have siphoned off and invested back in Anand (his hometown)"
8. "He's also buried the NAAC report which contained many adverse remarks against him."
There are many more like this.
*With regard to the 3 points you have made in 3.1.1.1, I shall try to address these post the hon'ble High Court's final order.*
1. Your comments were personal about a 20-something year old student who is not an individual in a public function.
2. Patel is in public office and criticism of his conduct in that office is legitimate.
3. Comparing him to Hitler or fictional game of thrones characters is obviously hyperbole and a joke.
4. As a publication we are there to show truth to power, not to pick on individual students or ruin some youngsters' lives.
5. Patel has responsibility to 1000s of students and parents and tax payers in his job, so he needs to be accountable and criticised.
6. We stand by all criticism of Patel contained in previous reports, which are matters of public record (read more ere Naac report, for instance).
7. Many of those bits you quote are at factual, I believe. Is Patel's wife on the payroll of GNLU or not for doing gardening? Is he not close to NaMo? That is after all how many VCs get regularly re appointed. Did he not edit a book with students articles inside?
But, how can you, being a responsible and non-sensationalist journalist, out there to "show the power of truth", let criticisms WITHOUT EVIDENCE be flung around, that too in a biased environment; and fuel them as the truth?
I again ask you the question, regarding these 8 points specifically (out of many others), is there any EVIDENCE? or are they mere inferences being portrayed as FACTS in this biased environment?
Please point out the relevant evidence which point these out, and not mere inferences and your "beliefs".
(you can leave point 2 - the hyperbole, and first half on point 3 - Dr. Patel has a lot of other publications to his own name as well. Also, read http://www.legallyindia.com/201409065025/Law-schools/namo-taps-gnlu-s-bimal-to-draft-deep-sea-mining-laws)
if students who attended court proceedings are to be believed, there was only one gnlu faculty that was present in court when court proceedings were going on.
and so it is clear that 'biased kian' is none other than that faculty.
no prizes for guessing who biased kain is.
also point no 5 -----who are the other people in this 'crusade' who have a 'grudge' against the university? please give names.
Kian (im taking to the real Kian Ganz here), is it coincidence that everyone who's defending the director online is speaking like the characters from George Orwell's 1984?
Big Brother is definitely watching GNLU faculty...lol...
Hey biased kain, or should i say, Big Brother's Minion, “Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.” - George Orwell, 1984
It is only when the allied forces liberated Germany that the true extent of the devastation of loss of life and property was made public to the work.
We, the commentators on the internet are the allied forces who have been entrusted by Sir Tim Burnes-Lee (the creator of the World Wide Web) to liberate GNLU.
By winning against GNLU's administration, Jaymin has already won the Battle of Normandy and has taken the beach. The War, however, still remains to be won.
At the outset, i’d like to point out that I had asked for EVIDENCE regarding the 8 points, which you still haven’t furnished. I still await these.
Rather you have just pointed out irrelevant stuff like who I might be. How is it in any way important? And i’d like to point out that i’m not the person you are referring to in your comment.
Basic principle of law: Innocent until proven guilty.
You might say that the hon’ble high court’s observation “human rights violating oligarchy” comment says it all, but it is not so. These defamatory remarks are independent of the case, and these “inferences” must be supported by evidence, otherwise they are just assertions, wrongfully portrayed to be the factual truth in this biased environment of LI.
Every opportunity is availed to attack gnlu in one way or the other, including an email sent to a closed group, which is again totally irrelevant.
On the other hand, the assertions I make, supported by some kind of evidence, are “redacted” for flimsy reasons. Just see the number of […] in 3.1.1.
Perhaps the reporter does not want to publish these as people MAY look at the case differently, and the following following assertion would be justified: people who are in this "crusade" are those who have some or the other grudge against the university on account of some disciplinary action against them.
Jaymin Brahmbhatt, the student petitioner in the present case, is the most obvious and glaring example of such type of people.
CLAT Rank: 23,654, NRI Status - NONE in the merit list
[...]
In the high court, he says “…Respondent No. 2, who is personally interested in destroying the academic career of the Petitioner. “
Jaymin would not have had a career if it not had been bimpa giving him admission [...] He should understand the value of the opportunity given to him to study at gnlu, not waste it.
Mr. Himmler, instead of winning the battle of normandy, had Jaymin [...] it would have been much better. Please don’t make a messiah out of him, [...] And please do enjoy the “beach” that he has taken. :-I
Additionally, he is not some kind of exception to the people who’s “human rights are violated” at gnlu. I agree that there are issues, but they are blown up disproportionately by these biased people. Giving other names is just irrelevant, as they will be “redacted”.
After whatsoever has been said in the case, the fundamental question remains, NOW WHAT?.
Bimpa is definitely not leaving (going by the appeal, and the fact that the division bench hasn't made any direction in this regard on account of the "HR Violating Oligarchy" tag of hon'ble the single judge)
Please try to concentrate on how to fix the problems at gnlu, to the best of our abilities, rather than going for a "World War".
“Freedom is the freedom to […] that two plus two make […]. If that is granted, […] and GNLU administration is the worst” - Kian Ganz, Legally India.
As far as I can tell, it's certainly not about anyone a messiah. But if the facts you allege (and that are redacted) are really true, then the GNLU administration is more to blame for this than anything and it should be a matter of grave concern...
It goes on to show that you are biased. It wasn't really a personal salvo or anything, as you say criticisms of public figures (petitioner's dad here) are justified.
I again request you to publish the following comment:
Stop beating around the bush, POINT OUT THE EVIDENCE for the 8 points.
Also, how is the administration responsible for the [...] IPS dad of the student petitioner?
- You have redacted this, which points out your bias against GNLU. Surely an IPS officer is also a public figure.
And, how is GNLU administration to be blamed for the serious violations of multiple regulations by the students (cheating, smoking weed, drinking alcohol in hostels (Gujarat is a dry state => serious offence), attendance backs)?
The following questions MAY help one understand the motive (i.e. the grudge) and the bias of the students who were in the "battle of normandy", taking of the "beach" and the ones who will be involved in the consequent "war":
1. Does the person have any disciplinary issues against himself.
2. Does the person have any attendance backs.
3. Does the person have any academic backs.
4. CLAT Rank, Quota - to an extent. - merely as an indicator of the person's aptitude. (May not exactly indicate the bias)
- point 4 is important because the top 30/ aggregate 70% + people of the batch (mostly across all 5 batches) do not have issues of such magnitude with the administration.
- please don't try to say that they are "quiet" because they want to sit in recruitments.
- I agree that there are certain issues, but they are not of such proportions as portrayed.
- There are of course a few exceptions to this 'test' as well. But nothing is utopian.
We all know that the answers for these questions, [...] which you have redacted in my earlier comment - I had provided evidence for these as well.
The same pattern can be observed for MOST of the people whose "human rights are being violated" at GNLU.
"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear." - George Orwell.
PS: humble request: Please don't redact the assertions.
Furthermore, there is one issue you seem to miss repeatedly in your allegations: you blame the students for something that is not their collective responsibility, in part because they don't even have a student council.
If a college admits students via the NRI quota 'backdoor', that is primarily the fault of the administration rather than any individual student: it's a systemic failure.
The same goes for 'serious violations of multiple regulations by students' like 'cheating, smoking weed, drinking alcohol', as you put it: if anything, this is a failure of discipline of the administration, rather than blaming evil students. Clearly the administration's draconian policy and approach has failed, and countering these perceived problems with further draconian policies is just piling on more of the same hoping you can fix things by turning a college into a civil rights violating oligarchy, to paraphrase a certain high court judge.
GNLU students are no different than students at any other national law school. There might be bad apples, there might be some who drink or do drugs or cause problems, but they are not the ones who should be accountable for this.
It's like the faux-argument used by the US gun lobby that 'guns don't kill people, people kill people', which is trying to deflect blame from government for ineffective policies of gun control and controlling crime. Or the failed war on drugs, which primarily blames drug takers and producers, whereas the fundamental problem has been in the way drug crimes are prosecuted and the way drug users are dealt with in most countries (other than foreign policy screw-ups by the US for decades).
If GNLU students are a certain way, then it is ultimately GNLU administration reaping what it has sowed.
And if the administration disclaims responsibility for this and shunts it onto the students, then it has failed in its job.
You blame the administration for the bad apples and do not even give an ounce of credit for the good ones. The policy is the same for all students, still a lot of them excel in life, and others, [...] fail miserably.
They then blame the admin for their own failure, that somehow the "draconian" policies "piled-up" on the students that forced them to consume more alcohol, smoke more weed and cheat in exams.
[...] has failed in 3 more papers this time in semester VI (evidence : Reg ID 13A031, check on GNLU website), is the administration to blame for this? Which "draconian" policy "piled up" on him that he failed in these subjects?
On the other hand, 2 people of the 2013-2018 batch, at the end of 3rd year itself have got PPOs (one confirmed and one interview). - "GNLU administration reaps what it sows" - how do you intend to apply this here?
Kian, the following quotes may be of some relevance here:
1. Some people create their own storms, then get upset when it rains.
2. Blaming everybody else is great until you've got nobody to blame but yourself.
3. Finally, GNLU students are sick of a bunch of idiots, blaming everyone else for their own bad choices and unhappiness. We're adults, grow up and start taking some responsibility for your messed up life.
Also, your Gun-lobby analogy for my assertions and arguments are incorrect.
In my view, such ACTS (cheating, weed, alcohol etc. - not people) are not to be "controlled" (like ownership of guns, which might be helpful in self defence) but are to be completely "exterminated" (as these are in no way beneficial).
In the present case as well, the issue was not with the "draconian" policies, but with the non-compliance with due process of law.
Perhaps the following analogy would be more apt:
It is like terrorists blaming the goverment and its policies for their present status, and seek to justify the atrocities they commit on this basis. But somewhere in their hearts they know, that they are responsible for their own fate. They also seek to brainwash the others into believing that the government is somehow responsible for their condition.
[...] was the terrorist like kasab, who was caught red handed. Though due process was followed in kasab's case, it was not followed in [...]'s, for which the hon'ble high court rebuked the university.
Additionally, i'd like to ask you, why didn't the division bench didn't feel the need to say anything regarding the "oligarchy" tag - why no proceedings against bimpa? - surely he is not "fit" to be director is he violates "human rights" of students. The division bench would have known this, and the serious implications if he was to be allowed to continue.
Perhaps they thought that the hon'ble single judge was not justified in making the comment. Natural rights are not exactly the same as "human rights".
Finally, i'd again like to clarify that i agree that there are issues in GNLU, but they are certainly not of the proportions as portrayed by some people, who have some sort of grudge against the university, and who blame it for their own failure.
*Humble request : before you break out your biased "CRA mess-up at GNLU" story, please send the facts to me at , or ask someone to list them out in the comments section, so that i could tell you the other side of the coin, strictly in the spirit of audi-alteram partem* - upto you.
1. You lost me (and I'm sure, lots of others) once you began comparing students to terrorists and Kasab and used words like 'exterminate' in respect of disciplining certain behaviour of students... I think we simply have different views on whether a law school is supposed to be run like an educational institution or a prison, so not sure we will agree on that.
2. Running a law school like an oligarch is not a criminal issue. The fact that the division bench let the lower court's finding and statements stand and ordering an independent inquiry, rather than reversing that judgment, is evidence enough surely.
3. Please do share your counter-point of view on the CRA mess-up, since I'm unlikely to get a satisfactory response from the admin. Can post as a response to this comment and mark 'not for publication' if you like.
Thanks
Kian
Based on my limited knowledge - Judges of the Constitutional Courts, Members of Parliment (both houses), the President and the Vice President..
VCs/ Directors of universities somehow I don't see... Do Universities have rules regarding how these chaps are to be addressed ?
Perhaps the GNLU rules say something to the effect of "His Holiness, the Right Hon'ble, Khal, Director, Fuhrer Dr. Bimal Patel, Hand of NaMo, Supreme Leader of GNLU, Warden of Gujarat, Scourge of the Literate, Kin-Employer and Father of Dragons".
If so, Kian you ought not to have published the comment above as quite clearly, failing to use the full honorific is not only defamatory but also in contempt of GNLU. I understand as per newly amended rules , the Director has power to suo moto punish for criminal contempt of the university.
I also understand that the above-mentioned amendment to the rules has the express approval of everyone's favorite statutory autonomous body responsible for legal education in India and Phoren.
It may be possible that the approval has been issued using "forged xerox copy of sign" but could also equally be part of the many good , revolutionary & reformation things that the autonomous statutory body is does-ing, which your gas paper is not reporting.
Where is the criticism here? Just fact. You seem like a faculty too. Can't wait to take you morons on.
Firstly he is the Director of GNLU and not the vice chancellor. The Gnlu Act has no provision for the creation of the post of a vice chancellor for the University but the learned faculty do not know of the same.
Secondly regarding biased reporting of LI, this news has been reported everywhere and why are you afraid of the truth coming out in cases like jaymin's. Is it the fear of being exposed for the autocratic and dictatorial style of working the administration adopts or for the arbitrary and anti student decisions taken by GNLU.
Thirdly, when comparing incidents involving the vice chancellors of other universities, they too have been reported. Dr. Patel with all his great achievements like publishing a book with articles written by students in his name and his degrees, has reached this position of power only due to his being on the right side of the honourable PM. He continues to treat this university as his personal fiefdom and GNLU deserves a lot better than this.
Lastly a request to the proud faculty of gnlu to introspect on their teaching methods and treatment of students which are well known to everyone who has studied in GNLU.
there is a storm coming. You better start preparing for it.
Hugs and Kisses,
your beloved students.
Wish i could go back to college now... feel like I never really mastered smoking and drinking.
Another screw-up of the University is the recent recruitment scandal that was orchestrated by (...) and (...) . Their actions of pretending to play God by deciding the future of the students as per their own whims and fancies is unforgivable. I understand that the students do not wish to leak the recruitment story, lest it affects the future relationship of the relevant firm with the University. However, the sad part is that the concerned offenders have no remorse and are heavily shielded by Dr. Patel.
God bless us everyone.
The guards also don't let any cabs nor any parent's wait near the gate.
Just who the hell does this man think he is? First of all why does he have a driver? He is just the head of an academic institute not head ministry of education. Secondly, he is not a member of the police forces or the armed forces.
I don't know about the police but in the armed forces,the soldier only salutes the officer when the officer can acknowledge and return his salute. I am from an armed forces background and when I would sit in the car, the Jawan would usually say "Jai hind" and let us in, if he really liked or respected the officer he would salute.
The guards that are hired now are from a private agency by the way, no guard from a government agency would do this.
Bimal M Patel is a [...] human being and this behavior of his clearly fits in the symptoms of a person having a personality disorder.