Nalsar, NLU Delhi win full autonomy status from UGC • But what does it actually mean? VCs explain

Deciding grades
Deciding grades

NLU Delhi and Nalsar Hyderabad were granted so-called “Class I” autonomy by the University Grants Commission (UGC), which also granted “Class II” autonomy to NLUO Cuttack and RGNUL Patiala among 62 higher education institutes that have been awarded the status, as reported by PTI.

The “Class I” status was conferred on universities and colleges with a National Assessment and Accreditation Council (NAAC) grade point of above 3.5 and the “Class II” status was given to those with a NAAC grade point of above 3.

Symbiosis International, Pune, which also has a law school that is SLS Pune, was also rated Class I, with a score of 3.58, according to PIB.

At least two institutions offering post-graduate legal education, were also ranked: Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS) was rated Class I with 3.89 and Indian Law Institute, Class II with a score of 3.35.

“Key indicators”, delineated into “metrics” or NAAC’s assessment units, are identified under the seven heads of curriculum, teaching and evaluation, research and innovation, infrastructure and learning resources, student support and progression, governance, leadership and management and institutional values and best practices, according to the NAAC website.

Human Resource Development (HRD) minister Prakash Javadekar explained in a press release yesterday:

these universities will remain within the ambit of UGC but will have the freedom to start new courses, off campus centers, skill development courses, research parks and any other new academic programs. They will also have the freedom to hire foreign faculty, enroll foreign students, give incentive based emoluments to the faculty, enter into academic collaborations and run open distance learning programmes.

NLU Delhi is already funded generously by the Delhi government, but the picture was slightly bleaker at Nalsar Hyderabad, which struggles with funding and whose VC Prof Faizan Mustafa told us: “It doesn’t help much because there is no funding for NLUs from the UGC.”

Nalsar: Not so useful

Mustafa said that even without requiring the UGC’s permission to hire foreign faculty, universities need permission from the external affairs ministry, which is based on proving that equivalent expertise is not already available in India, even after which foreign faculty needs to be hired at higher salaries.

“The UGC should’ve given autonomy to decide degree nomenclature, duration of courses, subjects they want to keep as mandatory and optional which is still not there,” he commented.

“Also, unless I have autonomy from the BCI also it is not going to drastically improve my situation,” Mustafa added.

NLU Delhi: Nice to have

NLU Delhi vice chancellor Ranbir Singh commented: “The most important aspect, I feel, is that [now autonomous NLUs] can give incentive-based emoluments to the faculty and are at a liberty to give a higher pay scale if they so desire. I can promote faculty based on research output, for example.”

Singh said that the autonomous status would now also enable NLU Delhi to start its academic centers around the city after applying to the Bar Council of India (BCI) for inspection, without special permission from the UGC.

JGLS: Most amazing achievement ever

dc:JGLS Sonepat parent institution JGU won Class II status, with a score of 3.26, alongside other institutions that also offer law degrees, such as ICFAI Hyderabad, KIIT Odisha, and KLE Belgaum.

JGLS VC Prof C Raj Kumar in a press release dubbed the status as “the most amazing achievement of JGU since its inception on 30 September 2009”.

“There are more than 950 universities, 40,000 colleges and 11,000 stand-alone institutions in India and only a small group of 60 institutions in India have been given this status and recognition. OP Jindal Global University is one of only two private universities in India, which have been granted the status of autonomy. There are over 300 private universities in India and among them only 2 have been given this special status. This alone is a significant achievement for JGU,” he stated in the release.

“JGU is also the first and only private university in Haryana to have been given the graded autonomy status among the nearly 25 private universities that have been established by the Government of Haryana,” he added.

Others

NUJS Kolkata, led by its recently very controversial VC Prof Ishwara Bhat, did not apply for the NAAC accreditation as we had reported late last year.

It is understood from sources that NLSIU Bangalore also did not apply for the accreditation. NLSIU VC Prof Venkat Rao was not reachable for comment.

In January 2016, we had reported that NLUO Cuttack’s report submitted to the NAAC, had plagiarised two pages in its report entirely from NLU Delhi’s report.

Comments

Darkseid 21 Mar 2018, 12:02
+9 -4
Kian, please verify the actual PTI news once before carrying a report on it? OP Jindal Global University (and not JGLS) has not got tier 1 autonomy, but tier 2 (only the universities with NAAC score above 3.5 are eligible for tier 1 autonomy). It's fine if you wish to praise them for this achievement, but don't sacrifice facts on that altar please. Also, Symbiosis got Tier 1 autonomy too, which you missed. ILI, ICFAI, KIIT have got tier 2 autonomy too, not sure why you are only choosing to focus only on JGLS and ignoring all these. The full and accurate list is available here(http://pib.nic.in/newsite/PrintRelease.aspx?relid=177751). Also, frankly, the picture you have carried is very click-baitish, since the actual report doesn't mention either NLSIU or NUJS. By that point, why not mention the remaining NLUs too? Hot off the press shouldn't mean edible/digestible only in parts, should it?
kianganz 21 Mar 2018, 12:08
+4 -2
Thanks - correcting. We had mentioned though that it was JGLS' parent institution JGU had won the classification.
Guest 21 Mar 2018, 13:22
+0 -2
You missed out on three other universities which has a law school - KIIT, ICFAI, SoA University
Grandmaster 21 Mar 2018, 13:52
+11 -0
It is shocking that NLSIU, NUJS, NLUJ and NLIU did not even apply for NAAC status. Rao, Bhat, SS Singh and Poonam Saxena need to give answers instead of ducking the media. I agree with Ranbir Singh that this is a big deal because:

a) As he points out, young faculty can be promoted on the basis of research output and teaching feedback, rather than age and seniority. This is important because it can help attract good NLU grads to teach, and make NLUD even more attractive.

b) The part about off-campus education is hugely important. This means that NLUD can rent space in central Delhi and offer executive LLMs/short courses for young lawyers. This can help raise revenue. BCI Only regulates LLB, not LLM and executive courses (these are under UGC control, which will now be lifted).

c) It can help attract UGC funding in the long run.

d) It also acts as an unofficial ranking of sorts. The NAAC scores and graded autonomy levels roughly correspond to how these colleges are perceived in public. Also for younger universities like JGLS, NLUO etc it helps boost their reputation.

e) Finally, I don't agree with Faizan Mustafa 's pessimism. This can act as a first step for removing the top tier NLUs out of the BCI's reach. Also, media reports are saying that the red tape about foreign faculty will also go. But then, instead of hiring foreign faculty he can also reach out to top NALSAR alumni talent and offer them the same salary. He can now do this with the new autonomy. For example, offer Professor rank to NALSAR grads in their late 30s instead of people in their late 50s.
Guest 21 Mar 2018, 14:04
+3 -20
NLSIU is hands down the #1 law school in terms of placements, student quality, faculty and global reputation. You cannot give autonomy to lower-rung NLUs and not the original NLU. So this is meaningless.

Also, I request the reporter to highlight that there is a clear difference between Grade I and Grade II autonomy. It is like the difference between a First Division and Second Division club. So please put Jindal, Patiala, ICFAI, Symbi etc in a separate box instead of the same box as NALSAR.
Darkseid 21 Mar 2018, 14:39
+7 -1
Symbiosis has been provided with Tier 1 autonomy, just for your information.
Guest 21 Mar 2018, 15:13
+9 -2
Aren't you quite the prestige whore.
Statistician 22 Mar 2018, 02:29
+17 -5
This makes no difference as the ranking of law schools is well-known and obvious. Here is the list:

Division 1:

1. NSLIU
2. NALSAR
3. NLUD (over NUJS because NLUD's coffers and admin are superior though placements at NUJS may be better)
4. NUJS

Division 2:

5. NLUJ
6. NLIU
7. GNLU

Division 3:

8. RGNLU Patiala
9.Jindal (again, over some NLUs because of pro-active admin and financial might)
10. RMNLU
11. HNLU
12. NUALS
13. NLUO
14. MNLU
15. HNLU

Division 4:
15. Symbiosis Pune
16. DSNLU
17, NLU Nagpur
18. Amity Noida
19. Symbiosis Noida
20. NLU Trichy
21. HPNLU
22. CNLU
23. NLU Assam
23. NLU Ranchi
Econometrist 22 Mar 2018, 13:38
+6 -0
This is a fairly good and accurate list. I'd just like to suggest one change. Given Symbi's fairly well-developed alumni network, it may well make the cut for Division 3. Also, did you consciously left GLC out or oversight?
Client site 23 Mar 2018, 06:46
+3 -0
Just one correction , NLUO should be 8th as every year at least 7 -10 students make to the Big 7 law firms and NLUO recently reached the semis of the world rounds of Jessup beating the best foreign law schools along the way.
Client site 23 Mar 2018, 07:37
+3 -0
Yeah Symbiosis should be ranked way higher but I don't understand why NLIU Bhopal is still ranked so highly. Is it just because it is old?GNLU is better than NLIU.
Econometrist 23 Mar 2018, 08:11
+1 -2
Being old also means it has had time for its alumni to reach influential positions. And alumni usually prefer students from their own university quite often, all other things being constant. Which reflects in internships and recruitment. Plus, they have also had time to settle down on stable curriculum, teachers who have grown comfortable with subjects etc., as compared to the newer NLUs, which help a bit. I'm slightly surprised to see HPNLU to be ranked that high, though, since not even one batch has graduated from there yet.
Prashant Umrao Patel 23 Mar 2018, 15:50
+11 -4
NLSIU
Nalsar
Nujs
Nlu D
Nlu J
Gnlu
NLIU
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Hnlu
Jindal
RML
Rgnul
Nluo
NUALS
Symbi Pune
GLC Bombay
ILS
------------
Christ law
Amity law
School of Excellence in Law, Chennai
Nusrl
Cnlu
Symbi Noida
Tnnls
DSNLU
Mnlu
Nirma Law
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If you join any college below this list. You should [...].
Darkseid 23 Mar 2018, 17:33
+7 -11
Are you then wishing for the death of all the senior advocates who have graduated from places like DU, CU etc. and whom the NLU grads stare at with doe-eyed envy, especially during internship applications? University may give you an edge, but it doesn't make or break a lawyer. So, before looking down or passing denigrating comments about those who have had a single bad day during CLAT, you should probably review your own achievements first.
Prashant Umrao Patel 24 Mar 2018, 04:36
+8 -7
Rich coming from you, whose highlight of the day is commenting absolute crap on this website. Review your achievements and do something. Anyone with half a brain would know that this for the Five Year LLB course.
Darkseid 24 Mar 2018, 06:39
+8 -6
And anybody who actually uses that brain for something would know that there are other traditional universities that have 5 year LL.B. courses, from where plenty of lawyers graduate every year and do more for their clients than your snooty entitled self will ever end up doing. But wait, you prefer to be a toad in a well. Ah, well!
Prashant Umrao Patel 24 Mar 2018, 11:20
+5 -4
Shame Shame Puppy Shame.
Day trips to mars 23 Mar 2018, 18:59
+9 -1
Agree. Christ law can be in tier 2
Guest 24 Mar 2018, 05:38
+9 -1
I agree with the view that GNLU should be higher than NLIU and even NLUJ.

Also, HNLU should be in the last division. It is really declining.
Prashant Umrao Patel 24 Mar 2018, 06:57
+6 -3
GNLU has much better placements than NLIU and Nluj even Nlud for that matter but GNLU has just a handful of good students owing to the state reservation and the faculty quality isn't as good as Nlud or Nluj.

Hnlu has a decent alumni base and has higher merit candidates as compared to Jindal


Jindal has the best faculty but has very bad student quality.
BimPa 24 Mar 2018, 08:20
+2 -5
So, GNLU has only handful of good students and bad faculty, but still manages to have good placements? Haila, Jadoo!
Prashant Umrao Patel 24 Mar 2018, 17:42
+4 -0
Okay. In light of my above comment, sorry if it hurt anyone's feelings. I shouldn't have mentioned it and I regret...

Kian, i wouldn't mind if my comment is deleted or the last line redacted.

Thank you
Patel
Guest 22 Mar 2018, 03:59
+2 -1
This is the headline in Live Law: [i]NALSAR, NLUD, RGNUL, NLUO Among 60 Higher Education Institutions Granted Autonomy by UGC...[/i]

Thus, Live Law is more balanced and giving RNGUL and NLUO their due.


http://www.livelaw.in/nalsar-nlud-rgnul-nluo-among-60-higher-education-institutions-granted-autonomy-ugc/
Guest 22 Mar 2018, 04:08
+2 -0
Message for Bhat's troll army:

1. Please provide a defence for not applying for NAAC status.

2. Please note the report in today's TOI, which says: "allegations against Bhat included lack of transparency in allocation of funds, no role in academic initiatives, no infrastructural development, no accountability and transparency in administrative procedures, among others"

Thus, it is clear that CNLU students are not making a legal case against Bhat, but a moral and ethical case. So please stop posting garbage about lack of court conviction, no legal offence etc. It is the moral and ethical duty of a VC to improve infrastructure, improve faculty, improve the brand value and reputation of NUJS, be transparent and not hide from the media.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/patna/justice-retd-mishra-is-cnlus-interim-vc/articleshow/63403431.cms
Father Brown 22 Mar 2018, 05:22
+7 -0
@Guest: Haven't you got it yet? Those who have filling LI posts with pro-Bhat comments are not his supporters. They are mostly people from NUJS who also hate his guts, but since the NUJS students are not going to do anything proactive like CNLU people to make his departure happen, these people are trying to convince CNLU students that Bhat isn't as bad as he's portrayed; so that CNLU will take him in and it will be good riddance for NUJS. Otherwise barring one or two obvious trolls, there never used to be these many pro-Bhat commentators in any of the NUJS posts before.
Agree. 22 Mar 2018, 06:16
+3 -0
Absolutely spot on. This is not a sarcastic comment but is 100% true. NUJS people are praising Bhat so that CNLU students change their mind and accept him, and so that NUJS gets a new VC. This is nothing but a clever ploy. How else do you explain that the same people who have been clamouring for his ouster suddenly change their minds the moment he is announced as the next CNLU VC? If this ploy succeeds, then they will turn around and stick their tongues out at CNLU students and say WE PRANKED YOU!

Also, there is an underhand arrangement with Bar & Bench and some MSM media outlets where the review report will be selectively highlighted to exonerate Bhat and compel CNLU students to accept him.

Bhat will have a hard time at CNLU though. CNLU students are not weaklings like NUJS students.
Guest 22 Mar 2018, 05:12
+2 -1
Where does GNLU stand!?
Big brother 22 Mar 2018, 07:11
+5 -1
On Gandhinagar, Gujarat. Where else?
Guest 22 Mar 2018, 07:46
+3 -1
GNLU students are useless. They lack the guts to stage a protest even after so many years.
Big Daddy 30 Mar 2018, 18:04
+0 -0
True.
Critic 22 Mar 2018, 07:57
+4 -0
Kian, I must say that other websites have given better coverage than you on this issue. If you look at Bar & Bench, they have correctly pointed out that this results in extra funds from the UGC . https://barandbench.com/nlus-jindal-ili-ugc-autonomy/

If you look at Business Standard, they have pointed out that BCI regulates LLB but UGC regulates LLM. Autonomy means that specialised LLM courses can be offered. This is currently not possible as the UGC mandates some useless compulsory courses in the LLM. Now NALSAR and NLUD can offer specialist LLMs in financial law etc .

http://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/varsities-faculties-divided-over-proposed-benefits-of-graded-autonomy-118032101337_1.html

Rao, Bhat and Saxena owe an explanation big time.
Guest 22 Mar 2018, 17:58
+8 -3
The interpretation of the full autonomy granted to the tier I NLUs by the Ranbir Singh and Mustafa hints a lot about the attitudes of the two.

Ranbir Singh had made NALSAR 20 years ago, in a place which was really isolated from the main city, where nobody wanted to go. But NALSAR had the best of the faculty in its 1st 10 years of existence, thanx to Ranbir Singh. A lot of what NALSAR is perceived by the market is due to the efforts of Ranbir Singh. He had done these things when there was not much autonomy at his disposal. And in a similar fashion he'd created and nurtured NLUD.

On the other hand, Mustafa got to head NALSAR (which was already very prominent and highly ranked). He obviously wasn't faced with the difficulties encountered by Ranbir Singh during the initial days of NALSAR, he basically got everything on the platter. There's not even a single positive stuff that's done by him for NALSAR. NALSAR has deteriorated significantly in the past 5-6 years, mainly due to lack of any will to do any good for the institution. The same pessimistic attitude has taken a toll on the institution's potentiality. They never had funds for appropriately compensating the faculty, but they had and still continue to have generous funds for their own facilities and all other activities (which are definitely at the cost of academic credibility of the institution).

Many of the NALSAR alumni, who had, with a lot of positive energy, passion and hope for acdemics, joined NALSAR, ultimately decided to leave the place and joined other institutions out of utter disgust due to the unprofessional and malevolent attitude(s) of the folks running the show there.

Finally, attitude and will can create and recreate institutions and the lack thereof (coupled with ill-intentions in this case) can destroy even the best of the institutions. One has devoted his life for the institutions while the other has devoted the institution(s) (KIIT University, NLUO & NALSAR) for his life/career.
wiwiwiw 23 Mar 2018, 02:33
+1 -1
Agreed. Very true.
Randi Singh 23 Mar 2018, 09:34
+1 -0
Smoking weed huh?
Guest 23 Mar 2018, 07:07
+2 -0
Kian, please report this massive scandal at NLIU Bhopal. Thousands of fake degrees have been issued, enabling people to get jobs and LLM offers abroad. Also, prior to CLAT some NLIU professors allegedly leaked questions. The exam was then conducted by the infamous Vyapam agency, which is at the centre of a big medical college scandal involving the BJP CM.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/nliu-to-check-8-000-degrees-of-past-13-years-for-irregularities/story-IMlFrMDTBPYbtMyTsjEaQK.html
Guest 2 23 Mar 2018, 07:28
+2 -3
The reported news is not true. There were cases that were unearthed by the internal committee because a person who was examination in-charge had allegedly tampered with the results. That person has been suspended for the last 1 year and he soon will be removed. For the degrees which have been irregularly given, those students have been sent the notices. The committee has issued the notices to all parties, ans a detailed enquiry will be started to remove the dirt from the institution. The biggest dirt - S.S. Singh - has already been removed. Now remains the degree issue in which Ranjit Singh (assistant registrar of examinations) has been suspended.

I reiterate again, the news reported by HT is not true.
Guest 3 23 Mar 2018, 07:58
+3 -0
Err...feel free to correct me, but the report doesn't appear to be that far away from what you yourself have said. Just one prominent difference I noticed was that it mentioned the committee to be a judicially appointed one, whereas you claimed that it was an internal committee. Other than that, I couldn't notice any major difference.
Guest 23 Mar 2018, 10:15
+3 -0
Sorry, but this is the scam of the century. Some NLIU fakers have got into top law firms and colleges abroad on the basis of forged mark sheets.
Xi Jinping 20 Apr 2018, 05:56
+0 -0
Name one person who got into any foreign university using the fake degree. Consider this as a challenge or else stop spreading the fake news over the internet.