In shock announcement NLSIU tells SC: We’re doing state domicile reservations this year (even though we’re fighting state’s SLP)

Letter to Supreme Court notifying of NLS surprise new reservation
Letter to Supreme Court notifying of NLS surprise new reservation

NLSIU Bengaluru has made a submission to the Supreme Court unexpectedly stating that it would be implementing state-level domicile reservations from the 2021-22 academic year.

According to a note submitted to the apex court by NLSIU’s advocate-on-record Kumar Dushyant Singh:

4. Hence, inter alia reservation for Karnataka students will be implemented at the Respondent No.4 University from academic year 2021-22. The Respondent No.4 Universitybrings this matter to the attention of this Hon’ble Court for further consideration.

The decision is the result of a “NLSIU Inclusion and Expansion Plan 2021-2024”, which is was “developed… to deepen and increase diversity of its student body and facilitate greater access to various marginalized and/or underprivileged sections of society”, according to the note.

The plan “provides for additional reservation categories for admission to the Respondent No.4 University, including for Karnataka students”.

We have not been able to confirm further details at the moment and exactly what shape or form these reservations will take.

The move is particularly surprising since it had been NLSIU alumni that had challenged the Karnataka state reservation and won in the Karnataka high court, which the state government promptly appealed to the Supreme Court.

It is in this SLP that NLSIU has now stated that it would now be implementing reservations.

The surprisingly short notice that it would implement the state quota after all, also seems to go against the Karnataka high court judgment in the same case made on 29 September 2020.

In its Master Balachandar Krishnan vs The State Of Karnataka judgment, the court noted that once the admissions process had started, reservations could not be changed anymore since this would act to the detriment of students:

191. There is only one other aspect of the matter which requires consideration and that is the timing of the provision of the impugned reservation. On 01.01.2020, the announcement was made by the respondent/Consortium for conducting CLAT for the purpose of filling up of the seats of the National Law Schools which are members of the Consortium including the respondent/Law School.

Accordingly, the aspiring students have submitted their applications and have given their preferences. In the midst of the said process, in the last week of April 2020, the impugned reservation was provided by way of the Amendment Act. It is noted that when CLAT was announced on 01.01.2020, no provision was made for any reservation on the basis of domicile or institutional preference in Karnataka State, as has been pointed by the learned counsel for the petitioners.

After the passing of the impugned Amendment Act, the Consortium had to again announce for change of preference of colleges to be made by the students. The examination was to be conducted later as it had been postponed on account of the Corona virus-COVID-19 pandemic and the consequent lockdown ordered by the Central Government and State Governments with effect from the midnight of 25th March 2020.

Thus, when the process of admission had already commenced, the provision of reservation in the respondent/Law School could not have been altered. Even though, it is a provision for the benefit of Karnataka students, one cannot lose sight of the fact that the same is detrimental to the students who do not fulfill the eligibility criteria provided by the impugned Amendment.

As a result, these students, who are more meritorious than the students of Karnataka as defined by the impugned Amendment would be displaced.

NLS SLP Letter 6 April 2021 (pdf)

NLS SLP Letter 19 April 2021 (pdf)

Comments

To be or not to be 21 Apr 2021, 18:07
Troll
+3 -15
NLS to everyone:
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Guest 21 Apr 2021, 18:43
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*Is* NLS fighting the state's SLP? It didn't take an adversarial position against the state in the High Court. Has that changed in the SC?
Rigour Mortis 21 Apr 2021, 19:38
+22 -7
Unexpected is the norm here. We were informed that we didn’t have open book exams (despite the UGC saying otherwise during the orientation) a mere 10 days before the examinations. If you want a university which cares about your well-being and gives you timely updates, I’m afraid the laa school is not for you. Please enter only if you have no life and wouldn’t mind studying your 5 subs/trim with almost 7 hours of online classes riddled with unexpected cold calls (mostly in the scam ones).
Ganga hostel 22 Apr 2021, 06:31
+14 -26
Please don't spread nonsense here. If you want to make it big in life, remember academic rigour is the only thing which will stand you in good stead. Crises happen every decade. The crop of lawyers and associates have all gone through hardships during their time in college. Get a grip on yourself
Guest 22 Apr 2021, 07:30
+14 -8
Sounds like good advice. Please follow it yourself. You sound close enough to losing it yourself.
Himalaya 22 Apr 2021, 07:36
+3 -7
I thought this was a platform specifically designed for that, Ganga!
wut 29 Apr 2021, 20:18
+2 -1
ok boomer
NLU 21 Apr 2021, 19:50
+21 -4
So much for ridiculing us all these years for having state reservations NLS!
Guest 21 Apr 2021, 22:07
Troll
+4 -19
Sensationalist media coverage and clickbait headline. The fact is that Kar HC has struck down reservation and clearly said that NLSIU is an institution of national eminence which cannot be compared to other NLUs as: 1) the CJI is the Vice Chancellor, 2) It is the face of Indian legal education to the world and 3) It is a class apart in terms of alumni achievements.

The SC is hearing an appeal regarding this judgement and if it rules in favour of NLSIU (as it should) then NLSIU is official recognised as a national institution of eminence different from other NLUs.
Guest 21 Apr 2021, 22:15
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From what I heard, the reservation for Karnataka students is only for the SC/ST seats and LLM seats (merit + SC/ST). In other words, the BALLB merit list will continue to be a national merit list, without any reservation. Smart decision if true. It means the cream of the CLAT rank list remains with you and thus you continue with excellent placements and 100% NIRF perception score (at best drop to 90%).
Guest 21 Apr 2021, 22:26
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I vaguely remember a news report which said that NLSIU (i.e. Sudhir) had agreed to accommodate Karnataka students but only within the existing seats already reserved for backward castes. In other words, the SC reservation becomes Karnataka domicile SC reservation, rest untouched. I'll try and locate the report and share it.
Guest 21 Apr 2021, 22:28
+4 -4
Just an eyewash to get the SC to back off.
Guest 21 Apr 2021, 22:33
Troll
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The Modi government's ASG Vikramjeet Banerjee himself represented NLSIU in the High Court. ASG Banerjee must now clarify the Modi government's stand on the national status of NLUs. He cannot remain silent.
Guest 22 Apr 2021, 03:26
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Please do not jump to conclusions. Nothing changes the Karnataka High Court ruling. NLSIU has not conceded anything. I will reproduce the main parts and explain:

[quote] We find that adding marks to students of Karnataka to prop up their merit in order to ensure that they fit into the merit list is discriminatory and in violation of Article 14 of the Constitution....

The BCI also has a significant say in the functioning and management of the School through its membership in the various Authorities of the School. ...The significance of the Chief Justice of India being nominated as the Chancellor of the School by the Society cannot be undermined. ...

This makes the respondent/Law School a truly national institution. What distinguishes the Law School in question from other Law Schools is its diversity, its national or All India character with an international outlook. According to Prof.Menon, it must become the 'Harvard of the East'. [/quote]

Re point 1, nowhere has NLSIU conceded that Karnataka students will be forced into the merit list. Suppose there are 100 students in all with 80 in the merit list and 20 SC/ST/OBC seats. Let us say 8 in the merit list and 5 in the SC/ST/OBC list are are already from Karnataka. That comes to 13 seats. Out of the remaining 15 SC/ST/OBC seats, suppose 12 are reserved for Karnataka. Thus, 25 seats out of 100 become Karnataka seats without touching the national merit list. Nothing changes.

Re point 2, the CJI remains Chancellor and the BCI continues to have control over NLSIU. This makes NLSIU fundamentally different from other law schools. It's possible that 1 or 2 other law schools may have the CJI as Chancellor, but none have BCI involvement.

Re point 3, diversity and national character remain in the merit list, while the international outlook will continue (if not increase) though student exchanges, faculty with international qualifications and visiting professors form abroad.

What fundamentally changes? Nothing.

https://indiankanoon.org/doc/170946768/
Guest 22 Apr 2021, 03:36
+5 -2
What about the NLUD and NUJS petitions challenging quotas?
I am sick 22 Apr 2021, 04:35
+11 -18
As someone who coaches students for CLAT preparation, this is really demotivating and disappointing for a lot of students. This will only take the creamy layer of good students who are not from Karnataka, Telangana or WB to other options where merit is the primary factor for admissions. Private law schools like O.P. Jindal have been gaining good meritorious students in numbers due to such policies. I am witnessing the trend, every year 10 out of my 10 best students used to go for these top NLUs, it is only because of the policies that students now look for alternative universities which compliment their potential. Don’t do this, don’t let money win.
SA 22 Apr 2021, 05:03
+2 -5
Typical clickbait headline, Kian. Good job!
Guest 22 Apr 2021, 07:00
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Now that Kian has leaked the letter we must see he reservation policy. Sudhir must reveal it or we will file an RTI. He can't keep it hidden.
Nagarbhavi ka Masiha 22 Apr 2021, 07:32
+4 -4
Can too. Watch me.
Harvard of the east 22 Apr 2021, 09:21
Troll
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Shame on you Prof. Sudhir for ruining the image of the 'Harvard of the east' by your unexpected shitty decisions. [...] From scrapping scholarship, implementing a new pattern of exams just a week ago to implementing a moderation policy to screw grades of 75 per cent of the batch, Sudhir has really shown how he changes his colour with his Chameleon instincts. [...]
Guest 22 Apr 2021, 09:50
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I request everyone to stop commenting until there is an official statement from NLSIU. The Karnataka High Court judgement has NOT been overruled and the observations regarding NLSIU's special status and prestige are unchanged. The reservation policy regarding Karnataka domicile is not known yet. What if it applies only to LLM and not BALLB? Until then we should not speculate and scare CLAT aspirants, who will be very anxious and nervous.
vRv 22 Apr 2021, 10:12
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Not permitted
Guest 22 Apr 2021, 12:16
+5 -3
Yes, we should leave it to the capable hands of the Messiah when it comes to scaring the CLAT aspirants. He usually does such a great job of it!
Diversity & Inclusion 22 Apr 2021, 12:09
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State Quotas are antithetical to increase in diversity as has been empirically shown by these NUJS students in their article https://lawandotherthings.com/2021/01/domicile-reservation-in-national-law-universities-a-response-to-alok-prasanna-kumar/
Trolls 23 Apr 2021, 06:39
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Why are trolls downvoting this? If you're not one, atleast engage with the argument instead of simply downvoting....
Guest 22 Apr 2021, 14:44
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This is VERY clever strategy by Sudhir. The plan is to get the SC to say that it will leave it to NLSIU and the CJI to sort out the matter. Thus, the SC will not get a chance to say whether the Karnataka High Court was right in saying that NLSIU cannot be compared to other NLUs, even those with the CJI as Chancellor. So NLSIU will latch on to the Karnataka HC judgement and claim that they are a class apart. Very smart thinking. As for the amount of reservation, I expect something the like SC/ST formula or LLM formula as has been suggested, maybe even MPP. No change to the All-India merit list of BALLB. It's like China giving away a few small heights in Galwan but keeping Siachen, Tibet, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Xinjiang.
Guest 22 Apr 2021, 17:21
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Of course. And the Karnataka government, which actually started all of this, would just roll over or play fetch at Sudhir's command. People who think of others as stupid usually end up looking like that themselves.
uWu 23 Apr 2021, 08:35
+3 -1
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Guest 23 Apr 2021, 04:56
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The NLS trolls seem to have gone very quiet ever since this news dropped while a few others have tried to pathetically justify the "genius" behind their GC and VC's decision-making through some silly numerical permutations. Quite surprising considering the chest-thumping these fools have engaged in for the better part of the last 6 months since the KA HC judgement that gave them "special" status. It seems your own administration doesn't want that status, lol.

Here's a little reality check: it doesn't matter whether NLS reserves 1% of seats for KA students or 50%. The minute there is any kind of domicile reservation in favour of local candidates in any category under any program, the all-India character of the law school is gone. This does feel almost karmic after that NLS alum's underhanded attempt to push other NLUs down in his arguments before the KA HC last year.

Also, the KA HC j'ment also said that the governing council of the law school was free to take decisions on the same, so I don't see what is illegal about it, Kian. Of course, notifying it now might be disallowed, in this case.
Not sure what exactly this kind of reservation scheme entails since it isn't out in the public domain yet. It may be very inclusive if done right. It would be great if you could get the details, Kian. My suspicion is that the NLS VC has realised that being at war with the KA govt. is not conducive to the development of the law school. NLS doesn't receive any substantial funds from other govts. and has been continuously jacking up its fees since the new VC took over. Also, there is no way the Centre plans to declare it an IoE or nationalise it in the near term especially when it hasn't even featured in the world rankings this year. This whole nonsense of a self-financed autonomous institution is just hot air. No public university in the world is sustainable on such a basis. They need governmental support in some form or the other.

@Kian: As of now, it would be the right thing to do if you could mark all the posts which refer to NLS as a "special" and "unique" institution as "facts contested"/"trollish" so as to prevent these trolls from misleading aspirants and students.
Guest 23 Apr 2021, 06:04
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Friend, you are totally mistaken. First of all, I am shocked at your deman to deplatform users who are calling NLSIU special. Please read the HC judgment, parts of which have also being quoted here. It is good law until overruled. Do you want Kian to deny the judgement? The court clearly said that other law schools are state universities, while NLSIU is a "truly national" institution on par with IIT and IIM. Please note that the BCI itself appealed against the judgment and made these arguments, while the ASG of the Modi government argued the case.

Regarding the "underhanded attempt to push other NLUs down", why didn't the BCI challenge reservation elsewhere? For the reasons above. Please take it up with the BCI.

As for reliance on the Karnataka govt for funds, let us wait and see if NLSIU is declared as an INI. There is a compelling case for doing so and a few alumni have proposed it.
Guest 23 Apr 2021, 05:54
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NLSIU has not given a single statement that there will be reservation in this year's CLAT. LLM and PhD reservation is more likely. Alumni are totally opposed to BALLB reservation. Let me also point out, like the High Court said, that NLSIU was set up by the BCI. It may be that WBNUJS and GNLU also have the CJI as Chancellor and one of them was founded by Professor Menon, but those were set up as pure state government initiatives, as can be seen from the names itself ("WB" and "G"). You cannot compare apples with oranges.

Anyway, it was unethical of LI to leak this letter, as it was confidential.
Guest 23 Apr 2021, 06:18
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Quite dumb of you to say the same thing that all the NLS trolls keep parroting around here. You do realise that the domicile reservation/inclusion policy has been cleared by the Governing Council, don't you? The Chairman of the Bar Council is the Chairman of the GC. So by effect, NLS has now accepted that it is indeed merely a state-level institution.

The right thing to do now would be for this case before the SC to be withdrawn and for NLS to privately negotiate with the KA govt. on the modalities of the reservation. I'm sure the Sup. Ct. has other more important cases in its backlog to attend to now that NLS has conceded the point on its status by seeking to provide quotas for KA students.
Guest 23 Apr 2021, 08:35
+0 -6
@20.1: Please show me where NLSIU has " accepted that it is indeed merely a state-level institution". Reported your comment for giving wrong facts. LI has not shared any official document like this. As of now, NLSIU totally accepts the Karnataka HC ruling that NLSIU is a special national institution like IIT and that is NOT a state government institution.

You also do not know the modalities of what is being discussed by the governing body, so kindly refrain from speculating.
Guest 23 Apr 2021, 06:22
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Also, the whole Chancellor argument is quite meaningless. Any State govt. can amend its NLU's statue and make the CJI as the Chancellor (or for that matter, any other person like how RMLNLU has the UP CM as its Chancellor). The Chancellor has no role in the day-to-day administrative functioning of the University. That's been made quite clear with the way domicile reservation was brought into effect at NUJS.
Guest 23 Apr 2021, 08:51
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Please read the letter carefully. It says "NLSIU Inclusion and Expansion Plan". It does NOT explicitly refer to 25% Karnataka domicile quota in the BALLB course. There could be several ways to interpret this (given below). Please also remember that if there is reservation there may be a quid pro quo, such as the BJP government in Karnataka requesting PM Modi directly to give INI status to NLSIU. Alumni have been having brainstorming for the past several months on how to lobby for INI status.

1. No reservation at all. Instead, diplomas in Kannada offered to villagers in Karnataka. Or a separate Kannada-language LLM/MBL course. Or a new NLSIU satellite campus in Shiggaon (consistency of the state law minister Basavaraj Bommai). This campus will offer diploma courses in Kannada to backward students in Karnataka, maybe even a full-fledged Kannada BALLB.

2. Reservation for all courses OTHER THAN BALLB.

3. Reservation for Karnataka ONLY within the SC/ST quota within BALLB, i.e. merit list is NOT tampered with.

4. 100% reservation for Kannadigas for NOT-TEACHING JOBS, e.g. clerical staff, gardeners, sweepers etc.

5. Fee waiver for Kannadiga students who make it. No reservation, just fee waiver.
Guest 23 Apr 2021, 20:12
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Seems, we are all headed in the wrong direction. Time has come that all schemes of reservations should be scrapped and only merit should be considered. Once you become eligible by merit, but cannon afford the expenses, the support scholarships should be considered. Domicile reservation are attack on the name of 'National' Law University.
Guest 24 Apr 2021, 03:17
Contested
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Absolutely. Both domicile and SC/ST/OBC reservations should be scrapped. Cheep populist stunts that mainly help the privileged sections of the covered groups.
Guest 24 Apr 2021, 05:06
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Once all the children in this country are provided free primary education in quality English medium schools, private coaching, healthy food, requisite medicine, and similar opportunities that you take for granted, that is when 'merit' should be judged. What you classify as 'merit' now is merely the product of such privileges that people like you take for granted from birth. I have seen personally how the students from those reserved categories, once given full access to such opportunities, leave plenty of their 'meritorious' brethren far behind in life. Case in point, some of the IDIA children.
Regarding domiciliary reservation in its present form though, I agree that it does not achieve any particular good in terms of access or inclusion, other than providing some political points to the funding states. If Centre chooses to nationalise the NLUs, then this problem can be easily sorted.
Guest 24 Apr 2021, 19:40
Contested
+2 -6
Absolutely agree. Reservations are the reason behind the problem of brain drain in India. In school nobody knows each other's caste or religion. Every student is equal in school. However once one steps into this world of admissions and competitive exams, reservations come into picture and it leads to further marginalization and isolation of those already marginalized. People tend to go overseas for admissions when they realise a student with possibly more facilities will get admission despite low marks. If not total removal, some changes are definitely needed in the system so that it reaches to those who need it the most.
Guest 25 Apr 2021, 04:45
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The fact that brain drain is a reality would be apparent to anyone who is unfortunate enough to read your comment.
Guest 24 Apr 2021, 04:34
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This report is misleading and the comments by readers are misplaced. Under the law, NLSIU continues to be what the Karnataka High Court said it is (accepting the learned ASG's argument):

"a national-level institution ... the National Law Schools in other States cannot be compared with or put on par with the respondent/Law School. In fact, the respondent/Law School could be compared with institutions such as AIIMS, Delhi or IITs and IIMs, where the reservation in the admission process are provided not by the respective State Governments"
(para 163 of Master Balachandar Krishnan v The State Of Karnataka)

Absolutely NOTHING has changed. The letter does not say so either. It only says that an "inclusion" and "expansion" policy [i]"including for Karnataka students" [/i] is being introduced. How does this tantamount to domicile reservation or denying that NLSIU is of the same status as IIT and AIIMS?
Guest 24 Apr 2021, 06:17
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Because it is not. IITs and IIMs are nationalised institutions and receive central government funds and autonomy. A fanboy judgment isn't enough to get any of that for NLSIU.
Guest 24 Apr 2021, 09:34
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Doubtless the person who downvoted this thinks the judgment can indeed fetch such status and funding. If he only tells Sudhir how, then the latter can perhaps stop his CLAT coaching classes at NLSIU.
Rdhedron 28 Apr 2021, 17:51
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What is this NLSIU special status nonsense? It is national only in name.
NLSIU is an ordinary Karnataka University. It must follow all reservation norms for Kannadigas.
Jai Karnataka.
Guest 29 Apr 2021, 07:16
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It's smaller and less resourceful than any other Karnataka university to be honest. All NLUs are like a small university department only in terms of scale and scope.
Curious Alum 3 Jul 2021, 12:41
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Here is the Inclusion and Expansion Plan: https://www.nls.ac.in/news-events/nlsiu-inclusion-and-expansion-plan-2021-25/

Kian - you may wish to analyse it in some detail. Main points - huge expansion of the BALLB program to 1500 students (300 in each year); re-introduction of the 3-year LLB, 30% quota for women, expansion of campus and residential facilities, etc. Very grand plans but very little clarity.
Guest 27 Jul 2021, 15:31
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Karnataka government efforts to bring 25% reservation (on top of 23% reservation for ST/SC quota) for domicile or Karnataka students is huge blow to the democracy and totally against inclusive culture and this sort of reservation should be abolished with immediate effect. There has to be level playing field for all india students and this kind of attempt will take india to backward step.