This is actually pretty good, but they have increased the size of their batches to 360, I am really curious how are they deal with that

How come an LLM at Cambridge, LSE or Illinois is the same as LLM at say Temple?

Whats tier 1? firang fetish?

Fantastic JGLS. Congratulations!!! Keep it up!

Wow. You report the recruitment figures in December and compare figures of other colleges from summers?
*slow clap*

Good reporting Kian, its a sensible initiate at least in the right direction. Recruitment is a factor for future students, and it would seem December is a good time in the middle for them to start comparing statistics.
Haters will be haters, irrespective of that I do praise you and your teams' efforts for ensuring LI reports as transparently as it is able to. Best wishes for the new year ahead.

I think JGLS students are lucky to be spoonfed by good faculty who also have good contacts. Any NLU would get 100 jobs in AMSS if they had even 1/10th this support. We need a system where alumni of NLUs are encouraged to teach at NLUs and paid higher salaries than other profs.

Dear LI,
I appreciate your efforts. I wanted to know some of the students you have mentioned have secured fellowships that are mere 1 year fellowships. So will fellowships count as jobs? There are so many colleges where almost 70 to 80 % students get similar unheard law firm jobs. So, are these rankings only for big law schools or other schools would also be included.

Commonwealth scholarship recipient in JGLS! Wow! Keep it up JGLS!

I am surprised. I underestimated JGLS.

NLUD and Jindal are examples of how young law schools can compete with older ones if they have a dynamic administration and make efforts to hire good faculty. The admin in some of the older national law colleges have some serious questions to answer. We have seen how many graduates of such colleges wanted to return to their alma mater and teach, but were not allowed to do so due to politics. As a result brilliant minds are being taught by some third-rate profs.

Finally students got something (or not) by paying a fee more than 6 times at an NLU.

Kian, in future please write the year in which these colleges started in brackets. This is how the stats look:

Year started:

1. NLSIU B'galore (1987)
2. Nalsar Hyd'd (1998)
3. NLIU Bhopal (1997)
4. NUJS Kolkata (2000)
5. NLU Jodhpur (2001)
6. GNLU (2003)
7. HNLU (2003)
8. NUALS (2005)
9. RGNUL (2006)
10. RMLNLU (2006)
11. NLU Delhi (2008)
12. JGLS Sonepat (2009)


Recruitment Rank:

1. Nalsar Hyd
2. NLSIU B'galore
3. NUJS Kolkata
4. NLU Delhi
5. JGLS Sonepat
6. NLIU Bhopal
7. NLU Jodhpur
8. Below par performers: HNLU, GNLU etc

Among the NLUs, the biggest gainer is NLUD, and the biggest losers are Bhopal and Jodhpur, even though NLUD is not even a part of CLAT while Bhopal and Jodhpur are. As for HNLU, GNLU etc, it has been a
flop. This shows that the age of the institution makes no difference. NALSAR has now overtaken NSLIU.

Kian, I would request you to please investigate this and find out the reasons why certain law schools have declined.

a fresh escort easily outearns all these law firmers! is it a 'power' profession too?

Those who studied in Jindal Law School probably already had the connections to get a job in the law firms - their mummy and daddy just had to pay for the degree. Numbers are not always representative.

Whoa! You had the courage to compare a Private University with THE NLUs.
Today it is, NALSAR had better placements than NLSIU, tomorrow you'll say JGLS had better placements than NLSIU, and after that, you'll say JGLS had better placements than IIM Ahmedabad in overall India Level! The quality of jobs, if anyone here knows the meaning, does matter, which will not even make JGLS comparable with NLUs and that too with Top 5.

Throw money and see JGLS rising FICTIONALLY! LOL! Pity on these dumb JGLS students who failed in CLAT!

I think its difficult to think that people from JGLS or the jingalites (as they call themselves) have got the job on merit. A person who can afford to pay 35 lakh is one from a family of jugads. Everyone knows this.

Being a graduate student of JGLS itself, I would like you to know that there is far more to this than meets the eye. Most of these placements either in the firms or even for LLM programs have been achieved by the students themselves with zero help from the administration. If you would like to know how the placements along with other things in the university actually work, I suggest you visit their senior most batch's page and find random students and converse the same with them.

i love stat and i love a good shadow hand, if u ignore the gnlu batch size it would have topped the tables, similarly when jgls has a comparable batch size even the undisclosed litigation and a raft of llms cant save it

The reason why NLUs are the best is because they have the best students. No matter how good faculty and admin is, student quality is the number 1 determinant for recruitments. Students at NLUs are inherently bright, ambitious and hard-working. They are not spoonfed, they are not pampered.

Well, they did pay fees 5/6 times more deb wat they wld have paid if dey were smart enough to crack clat...and also i wonder how many of students were recruited on merits and not contacts

[b]What JGLS says:[/b] "Our faculty are alumni of NLUs and are better than existing faculty at NLUs"

[b]Truth:[/b] The faculty at JGLS only teach there because of high salaries. If NLUs offer a comparable salary, they will dump JGLS overnight and gladly teach at NLUs. In private they are all loyal to the NLUs they studied in but cannot teach there because salaries are low.

[b]What JGLS says:[/b] "Our students are as good as NLU students because they are trained by good faculty"

[b]Truth:[/b] Ask any JGLS faculty member in private about what they think of JGLS students.

[b]What JGLS says:[/b] "Our students are as good as NLU students because they have got similar placements"

[b]Truth:[/b] This happened because of contacts, not merit.

Congratulations to JGLS! Ignore the jealous trolls, this is a FANTASTIC achievement for the first ever batch of a law school.

What is wrong with having contacts or networking and making contacts. We are all going to become lawyers and what's wrong with using the resources at our disposal to our advantage. You don't have contacts that's one thing but why hate on people who do. Its not like an AMSS is going to hire a student simply because of a contact.

Also why is being rich always synonymous to being a brat. Just because the person is 'rich' and can afford to pay jgls fees, does that automatically mean that he or she is a spoilt brat with a mediocre academic records who ended up chosing jgls because he/ she could not get admission elsewhere. Is it the students fault that his family can afford to pay a high fees for a quality global education? Also, are you conveniently ignoring the fact that almost 50% of the students at JGLS are studying on some or the other kind of Scholarship?

Buddy, wake up and smell the coffee!

Assuming most of the detractors here are in some way or another associated with NLUs or at least desirous of being so, this appears to be a singularly unsavoury mindset. What exactly is wrong with another institution gaining prominence apart from the NLUs? True, if there is any claim being made by JGLS that is false, that needs to come out, but LI seems to have reported a factual situation mostly. Any NLU, the students/associates of which need to pull down others to show that they are at the top, is probably not deserving of the repute it is trying to claim! As for the success of the JGLS students, whether it is because of merit, good faculty or contacts, most of that are also available to the students of NLUs too. The profession can do with an influx of capable people, no matter from which institution they hail. Having been closely associated with NLUs in one form or another for the past decade, I must say that I fail to appreciate this so-called 'competitive' spirit of the current crop of students!

how much do you end up spending for the whole 5yr course at JGLS?

If students are getting placed by December, it's clear that it is on the basis of their own efforts. can you call it Campus placement?
It seems that LI is becoming a mouthpiece of jgls. Also earlier it was published that jgls has the highest female faculty ratio, which was found to be incorrect. LI publishes whatever jgls says and jgls says anything to remain in limelight. It has the audacity to call its exploitatively expensive program- philanthropy!

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Both of them got through NUJS Kolkata. ;p

[b][b]I would lke to congratulate Jindal Global Law School for this extraordinary achievement. But I know that Jindal is going to go places. The story of Jindal offers hope to Indian higher education. When IITs and IIMs in India suffer from faculty positions lying vacant for years, Jindal recruits faculty from around the world across its schools. This success of Jindal is obviously attributed to its extraordinary faculty members who have been able to offer high quality legal education to the students. I have been observing Jindal even before its establishment as the vision of Jindal as a philanthropic initiative was deeply intriguing for me as an American educator. Everything about Jindal is modelled on the lines of the great American universities many of them are private - be it Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Duke - all private universities that were built by philanthropy. The success of Jindal is an important example for India and provides great hope to Indian higher education. New initiatives such as Azim Premji, Shiv Nadar and Ashoka have all been modelled in the lines of Jindal and I hope they are all as successful as Jindal. [/b][/b]
It is rather unfortunate that comments in LI by many are based upon lack of knowlege and understanding of what it takes to build a world class law school. In fact, Jindal has done everything right whether it is the recruitment of faculty, focus on research, publication record of its faculty members, international collaboratons for students or for that matter the impressive infrastructure (I have not been there, but many friends have visied the Jindal campus and have confirmed that it is truly world class). The growth and achievements of Jindal in five years is truly tranformational and revolutionary. I witnessed last year the Jindal students winning against the Oxford University in the Media Law Moot court orgnanised by the University of Oxford. All this is exceptional achievement and we can only say that the establishmnt and evolution of Jindal augurs well for higher education and legal education.
Congratulations to the faculty, students and staff of Jindal besides its leadership!

Any one who gets a job must be congratulated, I am happy for the students of jgls. But what was the need to drag nliu an nluj and show them in poor light. the news is not celebrating what ever jgls has achieved but trying to become big by belittling others.it reminds me of Mathura Das from the movie Border, when he gets his leave approved & also another Bollywood flick Gaddar- when Sunny Deol was asked to say Pakistan Jindabad, and he says the same, but he was then asked to say Hindustan Murdabad, and that triggered the fight.

NLIU was opened in 1997 and NLUJ in 2001. Why is it not saying, still far behind NALSAR 1998 and NUJS 2000. Also let me tell that no body becomes a world class academic by doing a 365 days course abroad.
The great American and British universities, are now dependent on 4 to 5 times higher fees paid by the students from their former colonies like China, India, Pakistan...etc. It takes a life time to repay the loan taken to study in the Philanthropic American Universities.There are reports that some students had to sell their dignity in order to pay the exorbitant fees in some of the internationally leading institutes.

Please stop following America and think something original. Centuries before Harvard and Stanford we had great universities like Nalanda and Taxila which provided free education and produced the real world class scholars, like Kautilya, Charak, Panini etc. When Bakhtiyar Khilji destroyed the Uni, the library kept on burning for months, which tells about the majesty of the institute. And let me say again the education was FREE. That is- Philanthropy.

Unlike the modern day philanthropy where the students' money is used by the educational institutes to invite Presidents, Prime Ministers and click photographs with them.

One has every right to celebrate his success but not at the cost of others. One may extract whatever fees one can, but then do not call it philanthropy which means PAROPKAR!

[b]This writer seems to be completely oblivious of the realities of Indian higher education. Nalanda and Takshila were great universities of learning at a different era. How can you compare them to today's situation. Everybody knows that India does not have a single university in the top 200 in the world. The President and the PM of India has reminded all of us again and again that not a single Indian university is in the top 200. In fact, my own country's historic competitiveness of having a larger number of great universities is being challenged in a substantial manner by China and other countries in East Asia. The fact that there is no Indian university in the top 200 does not mean that there are no smart people in India. That is obviously not the case. What it means is that there are serious problems with Indian universities that need to be addressed. Being defensive in the way that the previous writer has been is not going to help. There is a reason why the best of Indian graduates continue to aspire to go to Harvard, Yale, Stanford, MIT, NYU etc - btw all private universities. They dream and aspire to go to these institutions because they know that they will get the best of education. This writer has unfortunately no idea that over 40% of faculty positions in the leading universities in India including IITs, IIMs, JNU and DU and other central universities are simply lying vacant and unfilled for many years. Students are bright but are largely taught by mediocre faculty as the best of Indian graduates don't come to teach to Indian universities. These are not my personal views. These are views and perspectives of the most accomplished scholars in India and around the world who have studies the Indian higher eduction system. India needs universities like Jindal and the top National Law School. In fact, the NLSs have a lot to learn from Jindal and there is nothing wrong in it. Jindal has taken higher education and legal education to another level. Public universities and national law schools need to examine this very carefully for their own future. [/b]

You are paying roughly 40 lakhs for this education.

Unless you are rolling in dough, I don't see the value for money in this education.

NLUJ VC must answer as to why placements are poor and NLUJ is losing ground. Please interview her. LI has been strangely silent on NLUJ.

@ M Johnson, It is surprising that you haven't visited JGLS even once but you are so sure about the correctness of the school about many minute things. Also I am surprised that an American Educator is able to find time to read some random comments published in some corner of LI? Vow!

Please do not compare Azim Premji University with JGLS. Its ridiculous. Azim Premji's initiative is really a philanthropic initiative. Its fees is a meager 53k for PG course and 1 lakh for a UG course even for a science degree, which requires more investment than a law degree unlike JGLS which is charging 7 lakh per year.

It has already 120 faculty members.

That is also a Private University and proves very well that you need not suck students to make a so called world class institute.
Azim Premji has donated nearly 10k Carore rupees i.e. 2 billion $ for the betterment of Indian education. Know your facts before you say something.
Also Shiv Nadar College of Engineering is there since 1996, much before Jindal, though it started a University in 2011 but that does not mean it is following Jindal. Similarly the idea of Ashoka Universtity was there much before Jindal.

If NLSIU, NALSAR, NUJS, NLUJ etc can make efforts to attract their alumni as faculty, the claim of JGLS that it has better faculty and can thus charge higher fee will be punctured overnight. Maybe one way to attract alumni is to have Assistant Professor chairs sponsored by industry, which pay higher salaries.

I hate JGLS. Shut it down. All colleges should charge Rs 1 lakh a year as tuition fee, should debar students from studying abroad on exchange, should have faculty who have studied in desi colleges in UP and Bihar, should have shabby hostel rooms and dirty toilets, should have students from humble families who went to Hindi medium schools, should have male students who wear fake designer clothes and don't use deo, should have female students who are behenjis who wear salwar kameez, should ban students who went to all the cool schools in the metro cities, should serve low-quality rice in canteens, should have compulsory Sanskrit lessons...

THAT is why government universities are so superior. Any university which dares not to have these qualities is third-rate.

Kian , a student of HNLU has alleged on Lawctopus that there is a "casting couch" system for moot court selections at HNLU. I hope you will cover this story in detail. You must equally cover negative stories in all law schools. That apart, it is a very serious allegation which is a criminal offence.

http://www.lawctopus.com/sexual-harassment-and-moot-court-selections/

About student faculty Ratio--
This writer is so biased that he cannot see around him. According to him his favourite institute has a student faculty ratio of 1:15 which only Harvard and Yale can boast. His attempt is to prove his favourite institute comparable to Harvard, Yale etc.
For his kind information, IIT Bombay has student faculty ratio of 1;15, IIT Gauhati 1:13 and newer IITS established about 5-6 years ago 1:2!
Among law schools, NALSAR 1:13.75. But they do not boast about it. Because they have humility.
One of the main reasons for vacancies in Govt. institutes is 27% OBC reservation. Because of which the number of students has gone sharply up but you cannot appoint teachers in bulk. For example in DU law faculty the number went suddenly up by 750 in one batch which means in 3 years around 2200.

As far as the discussion is about NLU professors, NLU Delhi has ten professors who have graduated from NLUs! TEN.

I am sorry to say but this writer who claims to be an American educator needs to educate himself about basic etiquettes. He is portraying those who contradict him as ‘stupid’. I am sorry but I am provoked to say that this person is personification of ignorance, arrogance and probably does not understand basic English.
I have said the idea of Ashoka university is there much before OP Jindal University (2009). I have not said that the University was established before OPJ. I contested the claim made by the writer that it is “on the lines of” OPJ. Please read properly and do not misguide the readers.
To substantiate my claim, I invite the readers to see The Economic Times 28/10/2014, which says in an article titled- “Ashoka University: A collective effort of 46 philanthropists”. I quote from a paragraph sub heading-
Autonomous Functioning
“All along there was active discussion among the core group of founders on what the university should be and how it should be set up. It started around 2007-08, (which proves my claim) when the global economy was flying, and a small bunch of first generation entrepreneurs and friends got talking. Dhawan and Bhikchandani wanted to set up a world-class liberal-arts college and approached Sinha, who had helped set up Indian School of Business, Hyderabad, in 1996, along somewhat similar lines.”
Thus it is on the lines of ISB not OPJ, which is there since 1996, 13 years before OPJ.
Unlike Jindal University, Ashoka declined huge investment by one investor in order to be democratic and retain autonomy and appointed a Scholar par excellence, Andre Betielle, National Research Professor, its Chancellor not one who had money to invest. So I wonder how is it on the similar lines with Jindal as claimed by the writer?

Azim Premji got the university status in 2010, and OPJ in 2009. It’s ridiculous to argue that they saw OPJ and within a year established a university copying OPJ. The idea must have been there for long and it can be safely presumed that the think tank behind OPJ was not giving the ideas to Azim Premji Foundation which is there since 2001. Therefore pls. do not make a claim that every good private university which got university status after OPJ has followed it. There is something which is called gestation period which can be long in some cases.
My example of Takshashila & Nalanda was brushed aside by saying that they operated in a different era. But the writer wants us to copy the British universities, like Oxford and Cambridge, which were started before Razia Sultan ruled Delhi and American universities, established in the era when Tulsidas wrote Ramcharitmanas. Nalanda was destroyed barely 100 years before Oxford was established.
In those ancient days we made academic institutions, which provided free education, produced scholars who are revered even today and whose majestic infrastructure is a part of folklore. Is it progress to make education more and more expensive or less expensive? Why cannot we do what we were able to do 2000 years ago? Probably because of lack of commitment towards the society and the greed of mankind.
Azim Premji University, a private university is charging a very reasonable fees, 53k for its PG course and 1 lakh for a UG course (per year). It has a world class faculty as well as infrastructure. It’s true that all this requires huge money but Azim Premji shows that a philanthropist would do it from his money, instead of making deep holes into the pocket of students.
This university has already 120 teachers who are highly qualified and second to none. They are not getting a very high salary and the posts are not vacant as the university has only 550 students as of now. Compare the student teacher ratio!
Govt. institutes are also paying good salary. A university teacher gets a salary equivalent to IAS officer and if one has a PH.D. then more than an IAS officer at the first appointment. Now with 1 year LLM program one can become an assistant professor at 23 -24. If at this young age one is getting 50 to 55K in a noble profession like teaching I think it’s good enough. The argument of attracting best brains by paying higher salary is not tenable. A law professor would never be paid what a partner in a law firm would earn. Can we pay to a senior professor what a senior lawyer earns? If money is the reason then best brans will always go to law firms or the bar. A teacher must be paid decently and they are being paid decently since the last pay commission. And in the new it is expected to increase substantially.
If you keep on saying that we need to pay high salary to attract talented teachers, does it mean that the highly talented teachers at jindal are teaching there only for money. I think the teachers there are good academics and are teaching because they like to teach. I do not have anything against anyone associated with OPJ, be it teachers, administration, promoter or of course the beloved students. I wish they all get good jobs. It’s only an ideological difference. My only problem is the exorbitant fees, for a law course, which has set a very wrong precedent, for a country like ours and then calling it philanthropy. Call it business I won’t write any comment. The argument of 75% scholarship is like Indigo, Air Asia and many airlines offering tickets at very concessional rates, that does not make them a philanthropic initiative. Someone with genuine concerns towards education, would try to make it affordable for all and Azim Premji university has proved that without compromising the quality of faculty and infrastructure.

Quoting Arundhati Roy:
https://www.guernicamag.com/features/we-call-this-progress/

There’s an iron ore and steel company called Jindal. They have iron ore mines, steel-making plants. The CEO is a member of Parliament. He also started the National Flag Foundation, because he won the right to fly the national flag on his house. They run a global law school just outside Delhi, which is like a Stanford campus in the midst of the most unbelievable squalor you can imagine. They have faculty flown in from all over the world paid huge salaries. They fund and promote cutting-edge artists who work in stainless steel. They recently had a protest workshop where they flew in activists to this unbelievably posh campus and then had protest poetry and protest slogans.

The student teacher ratio at NLU Delhi is 1:10.

Kian some important points have been raised here about faculty in law schools. This is a hugely important issue but has been neglected by LI. I would request you to please do a story comparing faculty in different law schools (or maybe focus on 1 law school a week). This will be very helpful for CLAT aspirants, at a time when CLAT preparation has begun. Eminent luminaries like Prof Menon and Prof Baxi should be interviewed as well.

CLAT aspirants usually place NLSIU above NALSAR and NLUD. But an assessment of the faculty in these places might cause some candidates to rethink this.

seriouly!
your are considering litigation and LLM as recruitment figures.
Wonderful!