Jindal: World’s first law school to have more women than men teachers, highlights ‘embarrassing’ global gender balance in academia [Spoiler: It’s not the first]

The face of global legal education: A man's world?
The face of global legal education: A man's world?

Jindal Global Law School (JGLS) Sonepat now has more women in its faculty than men, after a consistently implemented diversity strategy, claiming to be a more gender-equal law school than any other.

Out of JGLS’ 86 full-time faculty members, 45 are now women, making up 52 per cent of totals. The figures exclude visiting faculty and honorary professors, but include research associates who must all have LLM qualifications and are allowed to teach under Bar Council of India (BCI) norms.

By contrast, according to the data collected by JGLS from the websites of NLSIU Bangalore, Nalsar Hyderabad and NUJS Kolkata as broadly confirmed by Legally India, only 25 per cent of faculty are women at most.

Update: Amity Law School Delhi appears to have 22 female faculty as against 13 men, according to its website. ILS Pune also appears to have more women than men in its teaching faculty of 15, according to its website. Army Institute of Law Mohali also has more women than men in its faculty.

JGLS dean Prof Raj Kumar told Legally India that getting to this gender ratio around two months ago was the result of a “very serious effort at diversifying” to ensure that new hires would be made in a fair gender ratio, while nevertheless only recruiting “women who are highly qualified and have distinguished qualifications”.

Global problem

The situation is similar abroad, according to data collected by JGLS from the websites of top foreign law schools, where only between 20 and 40 per cent of faculty members are women.

Harvard, Cornell and Yale law schools came in the lowest in the equality stakes with ratios of less than 25 per cent, while UK universities performed better with up to 40 per cent women in Oxford University’s and University College London’s (UCL) law faculties.

Kumar added in a statement: “It is rather unfortunate that universities and law schools around the developed and developing world have performed in an embarrassingly poor manner to ensure faculty diversity and gender balance in their universities and law schools.

“We are very conscious of this disturbing global trend, and more conscious than most reputed law schools in the USA and other countries to ensure better gender balance in our faculty hiring and in all our institution building initiatives. We cannot achieve gender diversity, if we cannot walk the talk about women’s empowerment.”

He said that he was delighted to have achieved this goal within five years of founding the law school.

Furthermore, Kumar added that exactly half of the leadership positions at the college – vice dean, associate dean and some assistant deans – were women, which was also important.

OP Jindal Global University registrar Prof YSR Murthy commented that there was a “need to go beyond tokenism” by entrusting women with “leadership positions”, which is “where many institutions around the world are lacking”.

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Global law school faculty gender ratios

Law Schools?Total full time faculty as per their website on 18th August 2014?Number of female faculty among them?Percentage women
INDIA
JGLS Sonepat*864552%
NLS Bangalore30723%
Nalsar Hyderabad38924%
NUJS Kolkata35925%
USA
?Harvard Law School?121?2420%
?Yale Law School?831923%
?Stanford Law School?86?2529%
?Columbia Law School?91?2932%
?Cornell Law School?53?1121%
UK
?King’s College London Faculty of Law?75?24?32%
University of Oxford Faculty of Law873540%
University of Cambridge Faculty of Law1404129%
?University College London Faculty of Law?40?16? 40%
?LSE, Faculty of Law?62?23?37%
Singapore
?National University of Singapore Faculty of Law?75?24?32%

*Editor’s note: The JGLS website had not yet been updated with new hires at the time of going to press, according to Kumar, reflecting a gender ratio of only 46 per cent women. Data in table supplied by JGLS, and roughly corroborated by Legally India via Indian institutions’ websites.

Comments

pi 5 Sept 2014, 13:58
+44 -5
Jindal: has highest tuition fees in India, highlights 'embarrassing' wealth gap in India
Gucci 6 Sept 2014, 06:12
+18 -32
Jindal imparts far better education than some of the leading law schools of the country. I see no harm in paying the tuition fees if I have the capacity to. Just get over it.
Exactly 6 Sept 2014, 08:56
+5 -4
Exactly!
I don't see why people have actually downvoted you. If people could back their concerns with comments and not only [i]objections[/i], that would be great.
JIGGLES 5 Sept 2014, 14:23
+11 -3
Is this a sponsored piece? Did Jindal buy out LI as well? Jindal is also the first law school in the world to have electronic fingerprinting of students and ridiculous cash penalties!
kianganz 5 Sept 2014, 14:28
+10 -1
Both of which, you might recall, we reported on exclusively in the past. :)

But credit where it's due - JGLS shared these stats with us, which appear genuine, interesting and worth reporting on, and hopefully also raising awareness of gender inequality in legal academia, which I don't recall having been discussed before...
Guest 5 Sept 2014, 14:54
+5 -0
You know what's really worrying in the above table? The numbers for the faculty reported for NLS, NALSAR and NUJS!!! Is that enough people teaching for the size of university?

Also, if RAs, etc., are included, then I'm pretty sure I can think of more than 7 at NLS
kianganz 5 Sept 2014, 14:59
+1 -1
I'm not 100% sure on the figures for the other national law schools since some of the websites are rather vague / useless, and we conducted a count a few weeks after JGLS did theirs, so it may have been off.

On NLS, our own count got to around 6 female assistant professors and 2 female professors out of a total of 29, but again, that was a very vague count.

At Nalsar, our count is the same as the one in the table. At NUJS, our count was 11 women rather than 9.

In short, I wouldn't vouch for the figures in the table fully, taking into account new hires, etc, but the Indian law schools at least all seem to be in the right ballpark.
Outsider 7 Sept 2014, 08:06
+5 -0
Kian, for NUJS, the current number of female faculty members (contractual or otherwise) is 11. Another two (including an RA) are offering one course each too. If you include all the female RAs, the number would go past 20, but with one aforesaid exception, these RAs do not teach.
insider 5 Sept 2014, 17:33
+17 -2
Hope, bachelor professor shall find their "ardhangini"
Lawyer 5 Sept 2014, 17:40
+7 -4
But how can you say World's first? Do you know that there are exclusive law colleges for Girls? Check the percentage of female faculty there.
kianganz 6 Sept 2014, 05:22
+0 -1
Agree, there are probably others with more women than men in the faculty.

We were going with Jindal's claim that they are the first out of the world's top law schools, which is why the headline attributes the claim to JGLS.

Claims like world's first are easy to undermine though, as you just need one counterexample to prove it wrong. Do please share any examples of colleges that have more women than men in their faculty.
Stat. 7 Sept 2014, 18:54
+0 -0
National Law University Odisha, Cuttack has 12 women out 24 regular faculty. Website is not updated though.
Stat. 7 Sept 2014, 18:55
+1 -0
Law Faculty, Banaras Hindu University, Varanasi has the ratio of 3 women out of 42 faculty members. It's little less than 7%. And no transgenders are employed, just to clarify. Source is their website and last accessed 00:00 Hrs 08.09.2014.
Guest 6 Sept 2014, 04:03
+1 -1
NLU, Delhi has a better female faculty ratio! Esp. after the recent additions and departures. So there goes your 'world's first' claim!
kianganz 6 Sept 2014, 05:23
+0 -0
Had a rummage through the NLU Delhi website, which wasn't completely up-to-date, but it did seem that less than half were women, though it wasn't possible to be certain since many profs didn't have profile pages...

Can someone confirm?
kianganz 6 Sept 2014, 05:29
+0 -0
Someone has mentioned Amity Law School Delhi, and they appear to be right.

www.amity.edu/als/faculty.asp

13 men to 22 women... Will clarify in the article...
Nitpicker 6 Sept 2014, 05:19
+1 -1
"World's first law school" gives the impression that JGLS was the first law school set up in the world. Also men teachers?

"First law school in the world to have more female teachers than male ones" would have sounded much better.
kianganz 6 Sept 2014, 05:33
+5 -0
Since everyone seems happy to say 'woman lawyer', 'lady judges', 'women faculty' and 'lady lawyer', why not "men teachers"?

Only being gender neutral in this abuse of grammar. :)

http://www.legallyindia.com/Blogs/unlike-katju-i-think-lady-lawyers-must-be-banned-from-the-courts
atithi 6 Sept 2014, 05:21
+1 -2
is jindal counting everyone who walked in to give a lecture
Gucci 6 Sept 2014, 06:15
+2 -0
No the article exclusively mentions, "The figures exclude visiting faculty and honorary professors, but include research associates who must all have LLM qualifications and are allowed to teach under Bar Council of India (BCI) norms."
Guest 6 Sept 2014, 05:40
+2 -0
Really, world's first !!!!! In India itself ILS, Pune and many other colleges have a better ratio.
Insider 6 Sept 2014, 06:17
+0 -0
Support it with statistics please.
kianganz 6 Sept 2014, 06:19
+0 -0
Guest is correct - ILS Pune and Amity Law School Delhi have more women. See the third paragraph of the story, which has been updated...
Scooter- 6 Sept 2014, 09:01
+11 -1
Just a thought and I may receive a brick rain upon me for this. But is an efforted gender balance for something like teaching a good thing to have? I understand if there is a bias despite competency and willingness being a constant. However, if there arent enough women professors or enough women professors who are willing to take up such jobs, then just hiring the ones who may not be on par with the men professors to maintain a gender balance is frantly to me a step to the detriment of the students and the greater good.

The recent india, the overly sensitive to everything one, diplomacy and madeup sensitivity to all issues to ensure all sorts of correctness at the cost of getting the job done (and well) may not necessarily be the correct thing always.

If there are competant women professors who apply for positions, I would be surprised that the law schools (Especially the N ones) would discriminate. If they do, then its wrong and a shame. However, just stacking numbers to prove a point is a no brainer. Students have not joined universities to be taught by men professors or women professors, but the best professors- whatever their gender might be.

So, a Prof. Rajkumar who is seemingly (and boastfully) seeking out for women professors to the best in something in the world (however inconsequential to the students learning it might be) is just a sham.

I refuse to believe that universities like Harvard and Yale and the likes, would discriminate based on gender if one doesnt get the better of the other on competence. So the disparity there is just a statistic and a state of being- but necessarily not an indication of a thought for policy or discrimination.

In any case, you must also analyse what is the percentage of women who read law, who get into academics and then make this comparison. E.g. of the percentage of women who have read law as opposed to men is 40-60, then a 40-60 representation in academic jobs seem consistent. If it is 30-70, then a 40-60 representation is something to cheer for..and so on. Similarly, one has to see what is the percentage of women amongst the lawyers who have taken up academics. This would give a better idea whether they are adequately represented or not.
guest 6 Sept 2014, 15:35
+0 -0
Rightly said!!!
THINK. 6 Sept 2014, 22:06
+2 -2
Think of it this way:
You say that because fewer women are willing and competent, give them fewer jobs.
Whatif, because they are given fewer jobs, fewer women are willing and competent.
Give it a thought, and perhaps you'll understand it better.
Scooter- 7 Sept 2014, 09:07
+0 -0
Students must learn at colleges. Assumption is that the prof knows their shit. How to teach can be learnt on the job but not the basic stuff. when i meant competence, it was for knowledge. And no college i know has a bar for application. and as i said, an overt policy to discourage application from women is bad. equally bad is an overt policy to hire women professors. These jobs should be gender neutral.
Scooter- 7 Sept 2014, 09:09
+0 -0
Also, how can you say fewer jobs are available? Show me an ad which say- looking for male professors? i havent seen any.
woman faculty 7 Sept 2014, 07:14
+0 -0
On the other hand an opportunity to teach gives many a competent women professional a platform for making best out of their training and learning while family pressures keep them away from mainstream practice. This then turns out to be a win-win for both sides.
Scooter- 7 Sept 2014, 09:08
+1 -0
Thats the willingness part. Not if they are competent as well- be my guest. Its not be a walk though just because you are a women and that you need a job which is a bit more conducive (assuming it is) to family pressures!
Outsider 7 Sept 2014, 08:09
+4 -0
@Scooter: While I completely agree with your point regarding quality teaching not dependent on gender, the fact remains that universities like Harvard have a proven record of gender discrimination (even in the context of students) for a long period of time. The situation has, however, improved by leaps and bounds in the recent years.
Scooter- 9 Sept 2014, 10:54
+0 -0
good place for some information. the women are faring better at lecturer levels. means the barriers to entry are not that high. Staying on is a matter of perseverance. the data is a bit old though.

Prof Rajkumar should also take a look before blowing his on useless and incorrect trumpet. [...]

http://www.aals.org/resources_statistical.php
kianganz 9 Sept 2014, 12:56
+0 -0
Aren't those the statistics he's pretty much relying on about global inequality?
Scooter- 10 Sept 2014, 13:36
+0 -0
Not entirely. There are two sections. One with info on the gender based application and the second one for the final appointment. And the results arent always consistent with what raja wants to say. The skew is different across different teaching positions. Definitely not enough for him to make the sweeping statement that he has.
Scooter- 10 Sept 2014, 13:37
+0 -0
Just noticed your censor? Really? It is not an offensive word in towards world. Also, its just a qualitative adjective for the kind of actions. #friendswithamitshah
Nope 9 Sept 2014, 12:15
+0 -0
"just hiring the ones who may not be on par with the men professors to maintain a gender balance"

this is your assumption. it is not borne out by the article at all. Prof Raj Kumar reportedly said: "[...]new hires would be made in a fair gender ratio, while nevertheless only recruiting “women who are highly qualified and have distinguished qualifications” - this, to me, means that all other things being equal, they will try to choose the woman applicant over the man in order to maintain (at least a rough) equivalency in the genders of teachers.

whether you like it or not, women can and do experience the law differently from men. the lived experiences of women are important. it is important for institutions to try and weight the educational experience equally for students.
Scooter- 11 Sept 2014, 13:32
+0 -0
"would me made in a fair gender ratio". doesnt it mean that if the women profs dont make it on competence, and if the ratio is skewed, they will take them to maintain the gender ratio. Deductive logic my friend. They used to ask that in the entrance test in our days
kianganz 9 Sept 2014, 12:55
+0 -0
Just spoke to Raj Kumar yesterday, who commented on this a bit.

1. He said that some of the comments on gender were a bit off, with respect to quality, discrimination etc. He said that "it's a very conscious effort to identify the right faculty members who happen to be women", not to hire a woman just because she's a woman.

2. There's a bigger problem in academia, in that fewer women also pursue PhDs, etc, plus fewer women obviously make it to the top of the profession in litigation, partnerships, etc.

As such, the fact that they're looking to address the problem within academia is significant.
pi 6 Sept 2014, 09:52
+1 -1
Jindal: pays firang $25K pa, highlights 'embarrassing' discrimination between phoren and desi teachers.


Some facts in support of this sneak attack: 1)Foreign nationals need to earn at least $25K pa from their job to get employment visa. http://mha1.nic.in/pdfs/EmploymentVisa_080114.pdf Many of the IITs and IIMs have been lobbying for relaxation of these rules but in vain. I support scrapping of the $25K limit for academics, we need more cross cultural input in classrooms. JGLS has a few teachers who have their primary degree from abroad, so presumably they might be foreign nationals (this is an assumption, they could well be Indian nationals but have done their LLB from abroad) and would reasonably be paid $25 pa 2) JGLS could not possibly pay all its 50 teachers $25K pa (even if they charge students as much as they do) 3) so prima facie there is discrimination
Guest 7 Sept 2014, 07:17
+2 -2
A publicity stunt.
Bad Dean, Bad Journo 7 Sept 2014, 17:41
+3 -0
Kian you should go to Dean Rajkumar now and ask him whether he is willing to apologize and retract his statement. This article shows both Jindal and LI in very poor light because you published these claims without any research, but at least you can make it up by seeking a statement from him.
kianganz 9 Sept 2014, 12:52
+1 -0
Hi there - I did speak to him about this and he says that the main thrust of their claim was focusing on the situation globally and at relevant law schools, and nobody would claim that Indian law schools were gender neutral either.

The point of the figures was to give a representative indication of the situation, he said, though it would always be possible to claim there were institutions that could be counterexamples, though it's also not necessarily transparent as to what is counted as full-time faculty at other institutions, etc.

He also said that Australia, in general, seemed to have better statistics than the US and the UK.

To be honest, though, I always read (and wrote) the 'world's first' claim as slightly tongue in cheek, but certainly out of the big law schools a 50/50 gender split seems to be rather rare, if not unique.
Feminist Flag Bearer 8 Sept 2014, 06:31
+7 -0
Dear Mr Rajkumar,

Commendations for becoming the 'first law school in the world to have more women teachers'. Well, in that case don't you think it would be a fine feather in its cap to not only have more women teachers but also be lead by one?
Another guest 9 Sept 2014, 08:12
+2 -0
how much does jindal actually pay you for all this? Its always Kumar's statements and no comments of legally india on that. How about throwing some light on high resit fees(5000 per subject), high re-evaluation fees(2500 per subject) which jindal does not even disclose anywhere(check the student academic handbook). The student council does half of administration's work just because they are unwilling to do so and just want to sit back and eat on that "global" salary.
Open your eyes "legally India" and if they are open then please wash your face.
Guest 11 Sept 2014, 21:59
+0 -0
Even RGNUL Patiala has like 60%; female faculty 16 out of 27 full time faculty.
Law prof 13 Sept 2014, 07:52
+4 -0
How many jindal faculty are UGC-NET qualified and eligible to teach in a law college as per rules? A 9-10 month foreign LLM can't make you a good law teacher. Its a new and very less experienced faculty. Many private law colleges are better than Jindal in this regard.