Mx Mukherjee: Nalsar drops Mr & Ms to issue first ever gender-neutral graduation certificate in recognition of gender fluidity

Mx: No heartburn
Mx: No heartburn

Nalsar Hyderabad has possibly granted India’s first ever graduation certificate with the gender-neutral honourific “Mx”, instead of “Mr”, “Ms”, “Miss” or “Mrs”.

Nalsar convenor of the academics and examinations committee Prof Amita Dhanda commented: “We as a university of law, under a progressive vice chancellor, interpret rules in harmony with social and scientific understanding.

“It is due to this perspective that the request of the student was accepted by the exam department as a matter of fact everyday decision.

“Our progressive approach has helped us take this small step to recognise gender fluidity and self identification.”

Legally India reached out to Nalsar 2015 graduate Anindita Mukherjee to ask about the process involved in getting the Mx honourific official on the graduation transcript.

Mukherjee explained:

‘Mx.’ is an honorific that does not disclose the gender of the person it is used for. Those who do not gender identify, or those who do not wish their gender to be discernible from the way in which they are addressed prefer to use it.

I asked the NALSAR administration to use Mx. because I did not see any reason why my transcripts or academic records needed to carry markers of my gender identity, especially given that I am still uncertain as to how I wish to identify.

Answering about the process of convincing the administration to use the Mx honourific, Mukherjee said:

It is almost anti-climatic, given one would think there’d be strenuous struggle involved in getting an administration to make such a decision, but the way in which it all happened was very matter-of-fact.

The university sent out emails with our provisional transcripts and asked us to mail back with any corrections we might desire; I replied asking for the honorific before my name to be changed from ‘Ms.’ to ‘Mx.’ and it was done.

The department even called me up to check if I would like the change to be reflected in other certificates, and what pronouns they should use instead of ‘she’ (most commonly, ‘ze’ or ‘they’, in case you’re wondering)!

I’m glad the university took this decision, and did it without any heartburn.

“While this is all, at one level, rather superficial,” noted Mukherjee, “absent any concrete efforts to increase access for trans* students, it is nonetheless a recognition of gender fluidity, and that’s a good place to begin.

“I am hoping more students who feel uncomfortable with the gender binary will start to make similar demands upon the systems within which they function. Moving forward, it would be great if NALSAR (and all other organisations, actually) would ask students what pronouns and honorifics they prefer, without leaving it to individual students to make specific requests.”

The honorific Mx has seen widespread use in the UK in recent years, according to Wikipedia, and Oxford University in the UK, for instance, has a formal procedure to request a gender title, stating on its website:

The titles Mr, Miss, Ms, Mrs are social titles and have no legal status. If you do not wish to use the title assigned to your record, please contact your College Office to have your title amended from this list. You may also choose NULL (no title) or Mx (a gender-neutral title). You do not need to provide any documentary evidence to support your request. You may choose any of these options, regardless of your legal sex or preferred gender.

The Oxford English Dictionary (OED) this year reportedly considered adding Mx to its pages.

Comments

DANY 18 Jun 2015, 10:05
+5 -1
WAY TO GO GIRL! KUDOS FOR THE SIMPLE SOLUTION!
jackal 19 Jun 2015, 12:28
+2 -0
kian all this is fine, but why no update on the marijuana PIL? has it been listed for hearing?
Miley Cyrus 18 Jun 2015, 10:15
+33 -21
Hello. Alumni here. Its great that you're doing all this but can you please focus on teaching law now? Maybe let the kids moot a little and not just "problematise" all the time. Nalsar is focussing on random things now. I'm not arguing against gender fluidity and allowing people to embrace who they are but this is not the news that we should be proud for. Nalsar is meant for bigger things and this can't be allowed to become the focus of our attention. It will make coming batched complacent and distract them from the real meaning of studying in the nation's (erstwhile?) number one law school.
kianganz 18 Jun 2015, 10:32
+33 -7
Why would one preclude the other? This hardly seems like it took up any valuable teaching or other time...
Anonymous 18 Jun 2015, 10:50
+7 -0
The world is moving forward and it is heartening to see that the nation's best law school is pioneering this move. It is a pleasure and pride to be a part of this movement. Hats off to Prof. Dhandha, Vice Chancellor and Mx. Mukherjee.
Lawl 18 Jun 2015, 11:29
+16 -2
Ab yeh nation's best law school kahaan se aa gaya yaar?

This is indeed excellent, though
Observer 18 Jun 2015, 13:04
+9 -2
YE pakka NLIU hai !
NLSIU 18 Jun 2015, 11:01
+12 -13
LOL. When was NALSAR ever Number One?
NALSARite 18 Jun 2015, 12:24
+18 -8
Yeah. That's exactly the message that we want to send by giving gender-neutral honorifics!

Seriously, do you ever move beyond the useless competition and futile comparison? I'm sure the majority of the people at NLSIU don't give a shit about their college rank. Neither does the majority at NALSAR. It's just people like you with nothing better to do who start such unwarranted slug-fests.
waddalawyer 18 Jun 2015, 11:46
+9 -2
You sound like a frustated associate who did not get vacation during court holidays and is just randomly blaberring.!! your comment is so out of context and frivolous, I refuse to believe you graduated from NALSAR.

get a like..have a beer..!!

Also, way to go NALSAR.. hope other instiutions follow the same. small steps towards making big changes. kudos.
2ND YEAR 18 Jun 2015, 20:10
+27 -6
I HOPE SIDDHARTH CHAUHAN sir SEES THIS because I HAVE REACHED BREAKING POINT
Sir,
I can not bear this anymore. All am learning is jurisprudence. NO LAW. [...] Spare Nalsar. Is it a crime to love tax law. Is it a crime to love corporate law? We have no GUEST LECTURES/3 DAY COURSES ON CORP LAW. NO Conferences. Mooting takes a hit because we get free at 4Pm. No research papers. The Corp law culture of Nalsar has vanished.
Guest faculty and Commercial courses are discarded like anything.

You are the best teacher in Nalsar currently. Please understand that while am learning law and poverty, a student in NLS is doing an arbitration course in his first year.
STOP WITH THE JURISPRUDENCE AND TEACH LAW
Senior Gyan 19 Jun 2015, 01:37
+18 -0
Chill out! No first year in NLSIU is learning arbitration. They are learning legal methods, history and economics and trying hard to clear those courses. Also, lots of law is left in the coming years for you. Don't worry. Also, jurisprudence and law are inseparable. Just saying :)
Alas 19 Jun 2015, 18:55
+2 -0
Plz tell me
where are the corp law courses and seminars?
where the conferences ?
where are the guest lectures?
Sidharth Chauhan 23 Jun 2015, 12:42
+3 -2
I am responding since this comment is directed at me even though it appears to have no connection with the story reported above. Since the overhaul of the curriculum in 2012, NALSAR does not have mandatory courses on Jurisprudence as part of the 5 year B.A., LL.B. (Hons.) programme. There are mandatory courses such as Legal Methods, Law and Poverty, Law and Literature as well as Sociology of Law which have a jurisprudential orientation. Among the electives, there is a range of courses that expose students to different facets of legal philosophy and its intersection with other disciplines. On balance, this is a fairly good package of courses that will be useful for students in the long-run and I can't understand how a 2nd year student claims to be 'fed up with jurisprudence' even before having studied it in a structured manner.

I also don't see how an emphasis on legal philosophy precludes anyone from pursuing their interest in corporate and taxation laws. Those courses are taught in the 3rd year and in recent times there have been quite a few guest courses in those areas as well. In fact, we hosted Allen & Overy's 3-day programme on corporate and financial laws in March 2015. We have offered one-credit courses in areas such as private equity, the law of patents and securities regulation among other fields. Some of the best transactional lawyers among my immediate peers were also keen students of jurisprudence during their undergraduate years. Furthermore, NLSIU has its regular courses on corporate laws and commercial arbitration in the 3rd year, so you appear to be misinformed on that count. I would be happy to discuss your concerns in person if you are interested.
So Proud 18 Jun 2015, 10:31
+4 -0
This is amazing Ninny
2017 18 Jun 2015, 11:29
+2 -2
some people just do it and make others proud. Very Happy (with tears);)
Skip 18 Jun 2015, 11:48
+2 -0
This is super cool! It's nice to know there is sunshine in the world.
Alum-nus/na/nx 18 Jun 2015, 12:13
+7 -16
Agree with Miley. Instead of resorting to this pointless n euphoric yellow print, I (as an avid reader of LI) suggest that LI might be better off focusing its energies (and our attention) on other more pressing and serious concerns.

Given that your resources (and goodwill) are limited, yes - the two are mutually exclusive.
kianganz 18 Jun 2015, 12:18
+26 -6
I really like this story actually, it only took about an hour's time all-in to report, and if LI didn't cover it, I think we'd be missing out on an important part of role that law schools should have in society...
Alum-nus/na/nx 18 Jun 2015, 12:54
+8 -18
Without commenting on your personal take on the issue or how many minutes you actually spent on this exercise, the point remains that not everything which [b]can[/b] be covered [b]must[/b] be. I am afraid this reportage does not nearly behoove a serious news outlet such as yourselves.

It is not in my place to advice you on where that hour might be better spent. However, in the context of grave issues such as the inaccessibility of law schools due to high fees, exclusionary architecture of CLAT, marginalisation of students along caste lines, etc etc - I submit that the propriety of the honorific used in our certificates is not newsworthy.

Just a friendly suggestion.
kianganz 18 Jun 2015, 13:07
+21 -4
Thanks for your feedback, but I disagree. I think issues such as these deserve coverage precisely because they are a minority issue that presumably to 95% of people are not important at all.

Just because you don't understand why such issues are important, doesn't mean that they're not important to others whose voices are often under-represented in the media, just as gay marriage probably wasn't an important issue to the majority of people only a decade ago.

I stand by my decision to cover this and you always have the option not to read this or other articles if you don't like the article. In the bigger picture, this one article doesn't make any difference to our larger editorial priorities, and on some of the issues you mention we do cover though we could admittedly do more.

Potentially exclusionary architecture of CLAT, only recently we did a lot of data journalism, including:
http://www.legallyindia.com/Pre-law-student/girls-did-less-well-in-clat-2015

Diversity & exclusionary structure of online CLAT and Hindi CLAT proposal:
http://www.legallyindia.com/tag/diversity

High fees we've covered from time to time, though could do more:
http://www.legallyindia.com/tag/tuition-fees

Caste issues would absolutely love to cover, though those are actually really tough to do for a variety of reasons.

If you think there's something specific worth covering, let us know, but you have to understand that a vague brief of 'write about diversity' is hard work to take action on. If there's a newshook or the like, it becomes much easier to write about...
Robin 18 Jun 2015, 17:59
+0 -1
So true Kian.
Question 18 Jun 2015, 12:30
+0 -0
So did all students get the MX certificate or only MX Mukherjee?

Also, who initiated this? Mukherjee or Dhanda?
kianganz 18 Jun 2015, 12:32
+1 -0
Mx is optional, for whoever wants it.

The article explains that Mukherjee requested it.

Dhanda, I believe, is on the academic council, and was part of the (I assume brief) discussions about whether Mx should be permitted or not...
SUBHA 18 Jun 2015, 14:12
+16 -0
Why to even use Mx? It reminds of M. No need to have any title or prefix. The point is why to begin with M? What does M signify?
Name 18 Jun 2015, 17:41
+23 -0
[quote name="SUBHA"]What does M signify?[/quote]

007's boss.
Bhavik 18 Jun 2015, 14:21
+9 -3
Well, instead of writing Mx don't write any honorifics. Just write the name. It appears to me as only copying a foreign trend.
Guest 18 Jun 2015, 14:27
+3 -1
[quote name="Bhavik"]Well, instead of writing Mx don't write any honorifics. Just write the name. It appears to me as only copying a foreign trend.[/quote]

Foreign trend includes Mr/Ms/Mrs (traditional sense) and Mx/[no honorific] (in some places now). So no matter what you put, it would be following a foreign trend.
green lantern 18 Jun 2015, 16:09
+3 -0
v good. mocambo khysh Hua.
Awith even indian passports allowing for a third gender, law schools are a bit late to react.what do people think of women who write Dr.(Mrs) Mukherjee? the medical council should discourage or van that. if Maggi can get banned, anything can.
Dude 18 Jun 2015, 16:28
+18 -1
So, basically right now in NALSAR we'll issue gender neutral certs as an everyday thing but will take months to respond to competent external faculty and alumni who want to teach, only to reject them on flimsy arbit grounds. Nice to know you have your priorities right. [...]

And Kian, for months we've been trying to get you to cover the mess that Dhanda and Faizan have created in NALSAR. It takes you 30 mins to run this story but months apparently to write of a) student unrest on campus regarding increasing authoritarianism inside faculty meetings and with students perpetrated by the duo and b) our friggin MPL points for Jessup and Man Lachs. You're something, really.
kianganz 18 Jun 2015, 18:10
+15 -3
Arrey you guys.

1. We write negative stories about a college, you complain. We write positive stories and you complain we don't write enough negative stories.

2. I really don't remember you telling us about any of that, not sure how or if you did. I'm pretty sure we'd have been happy cover it... Send us an anon message or a WhatsApp or Fb message in confidence :)
Liar 19 Jun 2015, 07:04
+0 -1
Kian, we're lawyers. It's our job to whine and complain! :P
Nominee Director 18 Jun 2015, 18:24
+4 -0
Yes Kian, we all are wrong and you are the only one who has the power / authority to decide whats right or whats wrong!
kianganz 18 Jun 2015, 18:47
+7 -1
Or instead of complaining and commenting about it you could try and do something about it. I'm unfortunately not omniscient, despite the powers you seem to attribute to me ;)
Dude 2 18 Jun 2015, 18:47
+13 -2
Dude, the 'negative' stories you write about aren't really covering the real issues that the students are upset about, and are hardly worth the bits that they take up. For example- was covering the SBC Election last year in NALSAR really important 'news'? Or as a matter of fact, covering the increase in intake without looking at the real controversy i.e. in terms of student dissatisfaction with the way these decisions are thrust upon them. Anyways, the level of ad-hocism going on in this college in the name of the 'liberty model' and 'reforms' is ridiculous, and given your penchant for covering ridiculous stories from NALSAR, I hope that now you'll dig a little and cover the actual stories. Want a starting point? Transparency of Accounts in National Law Schools - draft a couple of RTIs, file them, and wait for a reply. Check if the funds received are commensurate with the quality of infra and faculty being provided at most colleges - there you'll have a real scandal, and you'll be rendering an important service to law-school students.
kianganz 18 Jun 2015, 18:52
+4 -1
Not every story is equally important but some might end up being so. It's hard to tell in advance.

In terms of accounts, what's wrong at nalsar? They're actually more transparent than any other law school I know, publishing fairly full accounts in the RTI section on the website.

Also, we filed RTIs for accounts of all NLUs a few years ago and got GNLU and one or so others, most were a pain in the ass about it. Might be a project worth doing again though.
Yo Yo 19 Jun 2015, 07:49
+2 -0
You want lead let me hand it to you:

a. Check how much money NALSAR has spent on preparing its infra for MBA Course & advertisement and how much was the return?
b. BALLB are cross subsidizing the useless MBA courses which is a great drain on NALSAR resources.
c. Why was Mr. [...] given permanent appointment even when his reviews have been pretty scathing. Mercy was not shown to other prof. who got much less critical reviews.
d. Class strengthen has been increased to 120. Why has the college not recruited new faculty members to ensure that teacher: student does not go down.
e. [...] Most senior faculty members have expressed their frustration in the manner in which faculty meeting is conducted

You want more...pick any random 4-5 year or past two years graduate and they would be happy to tell you more...
Dude 2 19 Jun 2015, 17:25
+0 -0
Dude, Forgive me for my ignorance, but can you provide the link to the accounts 'disclosure' in the RTI Section on the website. I just see the Annual Report on the website.
Dude 2 23 Jun 2015, 08:53
+0 -0
I didn't find any transparency in accounts Kian babu. Have scoured the website. I just find the Annual Reports in the RTI Section. I guess its time to file those RTIs again. I think you are confusing us with NLS, this is NALSAR.
kianganz 23 Jun 2015, 09:01
+0 -0
Sorry for my delayed response, had forgotten to get back - yes, you're right, no full accounts but there are annual reports which have a fair bit of info inside them.

It is a bit depressing that this is the best any university does though and I get excited about it - is NLS publishing full accounts?
Dude 2 23 Jun 2015, 12:10
+1 -0
The Annual Report just talks about the sort of activities that have taken place in college in the preceding academic year - nothing about funds received and how they have been disbursed.

NLS on the other hand has this -

https://www.nls.ac.in/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=35&Itemid=21

Transparent, no ? I think they are the only law school that does this, no other law school publishes its accounts. As I mentioned above, time to dig out those RTI templates, dude.
Dazed and Confused 19 Jun 2015, 00:40
+1 -5
This is a profoundly insulting move. A courtesy title should recognize one's choice, not obliterate choice for everyone. For example, "Ms." allows one to address a woman without designating her marital status; she is perfectly entitled to be addressed as "Mrs." if she chooses. NALSAR's decision denies individual choice, it does not embrace it. Now, no one can self select their courtesy titles at NALSAR.

This is just another example of the distance between NALSAR's pretensions and its achievements. A well reported story, and newsworthy. But probably not for the reasons NALSAR intended.
kianganz 19 Jun 2015, 05:15
+6 -1
I think you misread, it's completely optional and elective using that title.
Bharat Lawyer 19 Jun 2015, 03:34
+5 -2
Why doesn't NALSAR use Shri and Smt? My only Mr/Ms/Mx? This is India shouldn't it be Shriman and Shrimati? What is the equivalent of MX in Hindustani?
kianganz 19 Jun 2015, 05:47
+2 -3
By the way, those complaining about why LI wrote the story, the mainstream media just picked it up:

http://www.livemint.com/Politics/tlanaZBAUmGahCL1GfK5WO/Nalsar-goes-gender-neutral-with-Mx.html
kianganz 20 Jun 2015, 04:54
+1 -0
Also, The Wire, Buzzfeed, New Indian Express, Times and The Hindu have picked up the story now.
Just saying 23 Jun 2015, 06:04
+0 -0
Then its time to remove the 'Exclusive' tag placed above the headline.
kianganz 23 Jun 2015, 06:24
+0 -0
Yeah, no, not really, I'm sure you know that's not how 'exclusives' are supposed to work really... #justsayin
Anon 23 Jun 2015, 15:01
+1 -0
Kian, you're becoming hot stuff. You won't leave us for mainstream media will you?
You're the closest thing to our NLU tabloid (with admirable research and dedication)
kianganz 23 Jun 2015, 15:23
+0 -0
Haha, having too much fun here only! ;)
Big news 19 Jun 2015, 07:30
+6 -0
Aren't you going to cover what Shardul Shroff has been upto these days? Might be useful to organize a workshop on FB privacy settings.
Cowboy Bebop 20 Jun 2015, 15:54
+25 -1
Can I get the honorific HS (Homo Sapiens) on my NALSAR degree? These law firms keep confusing me for a baboon after looking at my resume.
Anonymous 5 Sept 2015, 17:49
+0 -0
Is there any reason why they had to use "Mx"? Why could they just drop all of it all together and just put the candidates name without Mx, Mr, Ms, Mrs?