Nalsar 2011: 59 desk jobs, 8 LLMs with in-house filling up 100% RCC quota

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Exclusive: [[Nalsar Hyderabad]]’s recruitment committee has hit a 100 per cent placement target, finishing its recruitment season with 16 in-house offers, four offers from international firms and eight choosing to study LLMs abroad.

Since September of last year, at which point 35 Nalsar students of the 2011 batch were placed with law firms and in-house already after the first set of recruitments on 26 July 2010, the 2011 grads have now bagged another 14 job offers from law firms and 11 from corporates (see table).

After Amarchand having topped the list with a total of 13 job offers, followed by four from Khaitan & Co and five from Ernst & Young, now Majmudar & Co, Luthra & Luthra, AZB & Partners Mumbai, J Sagar Associates (JSA) Delhi and Tatva Legal Hyderabad have each offered jobs to two or more students.

Foreign firms Allen & Overy, Linklaters, Herbert Smith and CMS Cameron McKenna made one offer each to three students.

A number of companies, including KSK Energy Ventures in Hyderabad, Hewlett Packard in Bangalore, GMR in Delhi and IFFCO-TOKIO General Insurance in Delhi picked up more than one student each.

Eight students received a total of 12 offers to study LLM degrees abroad, including one Rhodes scholarship. Oxford and Cambridge proved most popular, with two also having been offered admission to NYU. [Update and correction: According to the RCC one of the eight student has now received an additional LLM offer from Oxford. The updated numbers are now reflected in the table and the article].

A total of 58 students out of a batch of 79 participated in the Nalsar recruitment coordination committee (RCC) activities, according to an RCC member. Of those all 58 received offers, while from the rest of the batch two candidates opted to join non-governmental organisations (NGOs), seven choosing to litigate and three going for the civil service exams.

Six students in the batch came through a Bhutan government programme to study at Nalsar and did not participate in domestic recruitment.

The 2011 RCC consisted of students Ankit Kejriwal, Danish Sheikh, Harsh Kabra, Kanishka Mohan Singh Rathore, Kriti Das, Malak Bhatt, Rohan Singh, Swetali Mohapatra, Yash Bansal.

Last week the Nalsar RCC for the 2012 batch also hosted the first round of campus recruitment by law firms and received offers, following NLSIU Bangalore’s unprecedented April start.

Track record

Last year Nalsar placed around 95 per cent out of 47 final year students. Amarchand made 11 offers last year, followed by Luthra & Luthra with seven, while foreign firms Allen & Overy, Clifford Chance, Linklaters and SJ Berwin making offering one training contract each.

In that batch 35 per cent opted for domestic and international law firms – this year this has increased to just over 50 per cent. The number joining companies in-house has remained roughly the same at 20 per cent this year. The number going into litigation has decreased from 13 per cent to 9 per cent.

Nalsar Hyderabad 2011 batch recruitments

Law Firm# of students (offers)Offered pre-Sep 2010?
Amarchand Mangaldas, Mumbai12Yes
Khaitan & Co., Mumbai4Yes
Bharucha & Partners, Mumbai2Yes
Finsec Law Advisors, Mumbai2Yes
Amarchand Mangaldas, Delhi1Yes
Trilegal LLP, Delhi1Yes
AZB & Partners, Bangalore1Yes
Desai & Diwanji, Mumbai1Yes
Majmudar & Co., Mumbai3
Luthra & Luthra Law Offices, Delhi2
AZB & Partners, Mumbai2
J. Sagar Associates, Delhi/Gurgaon2
Tatva Legal, Hyderabad2
S&R Associates, Delhi/Mumbai (through PPO)1
Luthra & Luthra Law Offices, Mumbai1
Zeus Law Associates, Delhi1
Total law firms:38
Company
Ernst & Young (Delhi, Hyderabad, Chennai)5Yes
KSK Energy Ventures, Hyderabad3
Hewlett Packard, Bangalore2
GMR, Delhi2
IFFCO-TOKIO General Insurance, Delhi2
Bharat Petroleum, Mumbai1
E.W.P.D.L, Indore1
TOTAL IN-HOUSE16
UniversityNo. of Offers
Oxford University4
Cambridge University2
Harvard Law School1
Yale Law School1
New York University School of Law2
University of California, Berkeley1
Leeds University1
TOTAL FOREIGN LLMs8 Students offered 12
Foreign Law Firm (City)No. of offers
Allen & Overy LLP1
Linklaters LLP1
Herbert Smith LLP1
Cameron McKenna LLP1
TOTAL FOREIGN FIRMS4 offers made to 3 students
NGO2
Litigation per CityNo. Of Students
Delhi4
Chennai1
Hyderabad1
Pune1
TOTAL: 7 students opted for litigation.
Civil Service Exams3

Comments

Anonymous guest 16 Apr 2011, 23:00
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Awesome! Great reasons to celebrate. hoping this year's Daru Party has 100% success too.
Anonymous guest 16 Apr 2011, 23:08
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Go NALSAR.
Amazing work RCC!!
Anonymous guest 16 Apr 2011, 23:30
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Way to go Nalsarrrrr!
Anonymous guest 16 Apr 2011, 23:40
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Wait, wasn't the number of oxfords four, including the rhodes scholarship?
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 00:09
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This must be the best RCC ever. Wish other national law schools like ours also had a RCC like them.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 00:11
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Oxfords number should be 4, counting the Rhodes if you are putting in the all inclusive figures.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 00:13
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First by any Indian law school this year it seems. Kudos to the kids who were part of the committee. Congratulations Nalsar. Brilliant Show! Hope other law schools too take the cue.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 00:49
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KSK, Zeus, tatva, Iffko Tokio and something in Indore. hahahahahahahaha. everyone in nalsar knows what this is about. nujs and nls have law firms recruiting not the recruitment committee lying about recruitments. litigation means no job.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 01:01
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wow. offers from harvard and yale? very proud. spectacular. best performance in llm field in India.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 01:10
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Please do not forget about the Rhodes Scholarship. Yale and Harvard have falling standards and these offers dont count.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 01:36
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@#8 - You should understand that this is a batch status report and not simply a recruitment report. A batch status report includes not only recruitment by law firms/companies, but also LLM selections, litigation and NGO jobs.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 02:32
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It must be noted that Harvard Law has after a long long time given an LLM offer to a final year student in India. NALSAR has indeed produced the best performance in the history of national law schools in so far as LLMs are concerned. It takes a lot to have Yale Harvard Oxford Cambridge offering places to one or the other student of the same batch.

NALSAR could not prove it better that it is indeed the best law school of the country.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 02:38
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It does not matter. Standards have fallen at yale and harvard. only Rhodes scholarship is important. everyone else is useless.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 02:58
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Great Work RCC
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 03:01
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1. Nalsar does have a rhodes scholar this year as well;
2. If standards have fallen at yale and harvard, why aint students frm other law schools getting admission, are they so dumb that they cant get harvard or yale even when their standards have "fallen"? and @8, litigation means no job?? dude seriously?? The best lot of our college goes for litigation. Seriously dude, u are amusing me with ur ignorance now. And read about the company profiles of the companies and firms you were talking about, m sure u are too ignorant to know anything abt any of them.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 03:03
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No other RCC has ever produced such results in NALSAR History then this....I think that the entire batch should give the members of the committee a big treat!

The good news is that the current 4th yrs are also recruited. 29 students are already placed in just two days!!

PPl come to NALSAR and give urselves the best start....
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 03:05
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how much are the smaller firms like Tatva/Zeus paying?
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 03:08
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Tatva Paid 8+2 Lakhs in Hyderabad....which is better than 10 in Mumbai!
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 03:13
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@18
Tatva paying 10! Anyway its definitely way better than 10 in Bombay!!
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 03:18
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@8- i'm sure that ur from NLS. Don't worry, everyone can see where NLS is going. Ur pathetic in moots and suck at internships. Also, just to educate you, NALSAR has been declared runners- up at ICC, Hague.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 03:19
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The NALSAR RCC 2011 are ready to outsource its services to other national law schools.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 03:21
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@LI start a Recruitment Premier League :P
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 03:23
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HAHAHA! Awesome man! It was really needed! :P and yea, the truth is really evident now. and the perceptual greatness they enjoy is not going to last, coz perceptions DO change.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 03:27
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I get ur sarcasm, and even if they start sth like that, i have no doubts that NALSAR will win that as well. If achievements are concerned, and you forget NLS's past glory, NALSAR is inarguably and SIMPLY THE BEST.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 03:39
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Lets start the daRU party.....fuck off everything else....
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 03:54
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Kian, Majmudar, Luthra Delhi & Mumbai offers were also pre september period...pls update the table accordingly
Sid 17 Apr 2011, 04:16
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It's only a sad state of affairs that people are celebrating corporate jobs and "litigation means no job".

Fali Nariman, Ram Jethmalani, Harish Salve, Soli Sorabjee. All litigants. Greatest lawyers India has ever produced. They did not come from law firms.

Fali Nariman - Living legend of the law. He is not from Amarchand Mangaldas or Allen & Overy.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 04:28
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@27 (Sid)
I think we should not trivialize NALSAR's success in recruitments by bringing up this issue here.

However since you have brought up the issue...

There has been a considerable amount of debate in various arenas about the increasing number of students entering corporate legal firms rather than legal counsels such as the legends you have named.

This is a valid concern, however we must understand that keeping economic concerns and a person's right to choose their profession and career path in mind; person's are free to opt for careers in the are of their choice, keeping in mind their financial independence and sustainability.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 04:37
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how can LI be so irresponsible?? you will believe whatever the placement cell says? NLS has definitely got better placements but we don't make up figures like Nalsar. This is unethical and that is why NLS is the best. Everyone in nalsar knows that 6-8 people who were sitting for placements did not get jobs.
Sid 17 Apr 2011, 05:15
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1. In no way am I trivialising NALSAR's success in recruitments. I had the option to join NALSAR, I did not take it up. I very much agree that NALSAR is a great law school.

2. I never questioned a person's right to choose their profession and career path and I am all up for being allowed to opt for careers of choice.

3. I merely pointed out the fact that by giving so much importance to law firm and corporate jobs, we are undermining the real nature of the profession of a lawyer.
Secondly, placements, although one of the criteria, is not the sole one to judge how good a law school is.
Thirdly, the way litigation is being undermined. People tend to think that students who don't get a placed end up litigating. That is not true.

Also, I'm very much aware of the fact that litigation is probably not meant for all. There are some students amongst us who do not come from a strong economic background and have to make sure that their loans are paid off and hence start earning right after graduation.
Sid 17 Apr 2011, 05:16
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*merely pointing out the fact.*

Sorry for the typo.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 06:24
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re 'real nature of the profession of lawyer', please note that a transactional lawyer is no less a lawyer than a litigating one. both kinds have skills they could well afford to learn from each other.

i understand you are fighting the undermining of litigation, but there must be some way to do that without cheapening transactional work as well.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 07:17
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If Yale and Harvard have indeed given offers to final year students, it does speak a lot about nalsar. Yale is incredibly difficult to get into - 30-40 students a batch, almost never from the final year. All that talk about falling standards is nonsense.

As regards not joining litigation, whoever brings that up is either the pampered son of a successful lawyer or has no idea what start ups in litigation have to face, loan or no loan. I've seen many ppl with plenty of idealism start off under senior advocates only to quit after a year when the lack of pay and direction started to bite. ridiculous how litigators earning lakhs (if not crores) a month pay freshers 2-10k a month. Many refuse to pay!! how long can you expect an independent lawyer to continue like this ? This is a scam no less perverse than the 2G scam and i blame all lawyers who further this shady practice in the name of 'nobility of profession' or similiar crap.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 08:29
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@29

1. It is childish to enter debates regarding which law school is better than the other.

2. You have raised a "common knowledge" argument, which people generally make when there is more bitterness, and less calm observation and collection of data.

3. NALSAR has at least come out with its entire batch report and it is interesting to see where their graduating batch is heading soon.

4. Would be great to see other law schools report their recruitment, LLM and litigation figures.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 08:32
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@29 - Dude, are you from NALSAR? If you aren't, stop raising allegations about the ethical standards of another university or their RCC.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 08:42
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@ Sid -

Glad you understand my view point. Rest assured I understand you stance as well.

It is not really in a student's hand to change the "importance" that law aspirants, recruiters and media give to corporate placements. However, in reality a lot of law aspirants from non-legal backgrounds give great importance to this point.

Granted, that any law school is not unilaterally determined to be par excellence simply by its recruitment, however, it shows at least the response that "willing" recruiters have towards the institution and the standards it maintains in legal education.

I would in fact encourage more sole legal counsels to recruit from law colleges directly. But you see the issue is that they only consider a new associate when they have a vacancy, which more than likely does not coincide with a law school's recruitment.

You have made admirable arguments, which I also agreed with when I entered law school. But we do not live in an idealistic world where a person from a non-legal background has an equal chance to succeed in litigation than some one coming from a family of lawyers. We must understand their decision-making and their choice for opting out of litigation.

This in no way disrespects the profession or shows a lack of importance toward litigation. On the contrary, it shows an inability due to a lack of economic sustenance in the field.

In fact, the Bar Council of India should concentrate more on making the field of litigation more economically viable for a student who pays huge law school fees (sometimes on high interest loans).

In the meantime, let us appreciate the peaks than NALSAR's batch has scaled this year.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 10:06
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Can Nalsar RCC handle recruitment at NUJS as well?
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 17:14
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dude i seriously feel naives from nls and nujs need to grow up!!! why do u become so insecured with NALSAR's success, yeah i ahree u do have rasons, but then you know showing it up on a public forum is just so unclassy!!!!
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 17:19
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it is sad that only a minority of NLU grads want to join the bar or do higher studies. Most corporate lawyers in Indian law firms are glorified clerks. Our firms don't have the vision of US firms and don't focus much on legal research. A career as a litigator or doing higher studies builds your research skills and you learn much more.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 17:52
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Kian, is Trilegal an LLP ?
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 17:57
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Well done Nalsar 2011 batch....good work....Proud of being an Ex-Nalsarite (graduated last yr only).....Kudos to all involved in the RCC.....Best of luck for ur future Guys.....

Well Done,,,!!!
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 18:39
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NLS and nujs rcc should also come up with false reports and say that everyone who did not get jobs is "joining litigation" and "civil services"..
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 18:43
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By the way. The NALSAR Batch of 2011 Farewell Daroo party was a roaring success. Just like the recruitments!
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 19:18
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So what if Harvard does not take final year students? And Yale LLM class has 25 people? And these two are the only people from India? Don't you know standards have terribly fallen at these two places. Huh!
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 19:20
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Hey,

All this recruitment scene at NALSAR...well i happened to intern with one of the current fifth years from NALSAR called [...]...i kid you not, he had zero knowledge of law. If their RCC could get him placed with some firm in Mumbai then kudos to them.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 19:24
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@ 42 - I think 42 should be invited to NALSAR Daroo party. May be he can actually talk to the people joining litigation and enlighten himself. Maybe the poor guy is under an impression that litigation is not good lawyering.
Update yourself kid!
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 19:25
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Hey, one imporatnt question.

Who puked on me last night?
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 19:29
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@29 - I agree with you. NLS is the best. It is the best at bloating its ego. It is the best these days at losing moots and alleging bias. It is the best at losing all good positions for higher studies. It has always been the best at hooting itself to fake glory.
Lets wait for the NLS recruitment report. We shall see.

Oh and btw, the NALSAR RCC is a responsible body which has to release the official results. I didnt know at NLS you dont trust what your RCC says and so feel that the RCC's syaings are arbitrary.
Shows a lot of your excellence. Feel sorry for you
Keep up your good work.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 19:30
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Any pyaaz bhajji left?
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 19:33
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Hey Everyone,

I'm [...] and i hate this NALSAR RCC. They didn't publish the fact that i got recruited with Harpic India Ltd.

Kian pls take note.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 19:39
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And you are the best judge of the knowledge of law because?
Please elaborate.

Remember How I outranked you in [...] School, [...].
So please dont be so caustic about not getting through NALSAR
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 19:40
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This has by far been the best LLM results for any law school around the country.
NALSAR has been doing India proud.
Great going!!
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 19:54
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East or West. Nalsar is the best.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 20:54
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What about my job as senior executive in Housekeeping Pvt. Ltd. in the UK office?
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 21:01
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I guess, NALSAR wins the Glorified Clerks League :P
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 21:04
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About two years ago I was part of recruitment committee of one of India's top law school and a part of my job was to draft the press release which would assert that my uni had 100% recruitment. I would like to share some of the tricks up the sleeve of the recruitment committee on how to obfuscate facts, juggle with numbers and come to your determined conclusion.

1. Every university anywhere in the world would have some students who cant be placed so the best way to eliminate these would be to say that they didnt take part in the recruitment, this takes away a major portion of the recruitment committees headache. No one except for the recruitment committee knows how many have sat for recruitment so it is the easiest data to fudge.

2. Another way to reinforce the image of 100% recruitment is to quote number of offers rather than number of people who got those offers. Usually the top 30% of the class get around 50% of the total offers so recruitment committees draft the release in such a manner which says only the number of offers.

3. Then there are the space fillers like LLM and litigation. While 10% of this lot is really interested in further studies or litigation the majority had no other 'option'.

4. The final trick is NGO and LPO combine which should mop up any remaining laggards.

There were many other tricks as well but I remember only these few, use them and your uni would have 100% recruitment every year at least on paper :P

I DO NOT IMPUGNE THAT ANY RECRUITMENT COMMITTEE HAS EVER USED THE METHODS DESCRIBED ABOVE (this is what happens when you draft wiggle clauses in contracts for 2 yrs)
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 21:32
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"Last year Nalsar placed around 95 per cent out of 47 final year students." The reason why last year only 95 % people got placed was because rcc was honest. I am proud that our rcc did not lie. everyone knows that still around 7-8 people do not have jobs but we dont want to reveal names on a public forum. rcc of nalsar should be ashamed of themselves and legally india should be also ashamed because they are not doing any independent research and finding out what the truth is.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 22:33
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Its amusing to see people burn with envy! :D
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 23:06
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Correct me if I am wrong but I have heard that these days getting a BCL from Oxford without a scholarship is easier than getting a job with a good law firm in India.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 23:07
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I think its not quite right to blame LI, being a media outlet LI has a duty to provide information to the gen public. It has merely reiterated the media release of RCC or CRC of the respective colleges, it is not possible to independently verify the veracity of these releases unless there is a whistle-blower. Thus I believe LI has done quite a commendable job to bring some objectivity (in comparison to earlier murky world of chinese whisper recruitment stats being gossiped among recruitment committees of various law schools), there would always be some loopholes in recruitment committee releases, but in the given situation its the best we have got.
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 23:23
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To all the people who are so hell bent on criticising Nalsar,

1. The post clearly tells you how many people got how many offers. It says 3 people with 4 offers for foreign placements. The ones giving their expert knowledge on fudging figures at least care to read post before jumping to conclusions.

2. The figures have been made public because I am sure they are confident enough that any kind of cross check will yield the same result. Why don't you do so? Get in touch with some of them and get the figures. I am sure they are very nice people and would be willing to share the data of people.

3. People crying foul over Zeus need to know that the Managing Partner's son joining the firm isn't exactly him going places just because he doesn't have any option.

4. It is very much possible to place all the people sitting for placements. They went the extra mile and got it done. Why can't we for once appreciate the fact that some people worked hard for their batch-mates in one law school and ensured jobs for them.

5. Yes, it is true that you cannot give everyone a job. But well maybe you could give them not so lucrative jobs. They did not compromise on the standards by calling LPOs rather they went for a corporate, lesser known maybe, but which pays a good 5 in the pocket. Also at least check out the profiles of KSK et. al before commenting. An LSE listed company isn't exactly 'shit'.

6. The best of the batch are going for litigation. When we all cry about how the Madhava Menon model has been a failure why not appreciate some people who have taken the plunge. The city wise figures are given, I am sure, because they want to be transparent with it. Also there are some surely joining their family practices. Some were indeed working with NGOs like WWF and all which they decided to join.

7. These people are not so blatant to publish such lies unless they actually have some figures backing them up. Do your research. Get in touch with them. They have indeed done a marvelous job.

Why don't we congratulate them and see where we can all learn and better the prospects of our entire NLU student fraternity?
Anonymous guest 17 Apr 2011, 23:41
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You're wrong. But why don't you apply for both and see?
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 00:13
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@ 59

You are wrong. Consider yourself corrected.
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 00:22
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when will kian update the MPL table post ICC?
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 02:05
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My livelihood depends on reading the fine print, so if my ability is being questioned I have to respond to some of the numerical anomalies and the non denial denial stance taken by recruitment committees.

The main assertion is 58 students of class of 79 participated in recruitment all 58 got placed.

So 21 students did not participate in recruitment process the article tries to give a breakup of these non-participants -> 6 from Bhutan + 2 NGO + 8 LLM (12 offers) + 3 UPSC + 7 Lit = 26

Thus for 21 students there were min 26 non recruitment options

Now for 58 students who got recruited (data from table) -> 38 law firm + 16 inhouse + 4 international = 58 offers

Thus for 58 students there are 58 offers so 100% recruitment, but hold on as someone pointed out 4 international offer went to 3 students, so the 58 offers were for maximum of 57 students, so theoretically min one student is left without a job.

Looking forward to clarifications from RCC. Also if you compare the table from PPO at http://www.legallyindia.com/201009171314/Law-schools/nearly-half-of-nalsar-finalists-find-law-firm-homes-amarchand-tops-campus-recruitment you would find that there are some confusions as to the offers from luthra - are they PPOs or normal recruitment?
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 02:43
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CNLU students agitating for placements

http://telegraphindia.com/1110417/jsp/bihar/story_13862426.jsp

CNLU recruitment brochure

http://www.cnlu.ac.in/pdf/Placement-2011.pdf
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 03:16
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Y dont u guys just digest the fact that this is true...100% placement record has been made....it must be a tough job but not an impossible one...I m sure NLS will do this next yr if they havnt this time...

Believe me this is a reality...not a big issue to achieve 100%.

I m sure other law schools would like to take some kind of feedback from NALSAR's brilliant RCC.

U guys wont believe nalsar rcc is completely an autonomous and independent body in which no member of the college administration takes part. Only these 9 elected ppl work...money is also contributed from the students...college does not give a single penny
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 03:28
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@49 - Pyaaz bhajji is over.

May be you can have some pyaaz paratha

And what happened to my stolen cigarettes?
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 03:32
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@65

Great job! Ever considered being an accountant or a private investigator?
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 03:49
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It's been over a day since the release of this report. However none of the other national law schools have had the balls to release their recruitment report. What does that say about them. I think people from NLS especially should focus more on arranging jobs for their batchmates rather than spending time on this stupid forum commenting on the veracity on NALSAR recruitment figures.
kianganz 18 Apr 2011, 03:52
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Most of the other colleges are not yet quite finished with their placements this year...

We will update as soon as they are.

Best regards
Kian
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 04:41
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please verify these figures because too many people are saying its false. something is definitely wrong because #65 has already shown. there are so many reports from nalsar and other colleges but they are never disputed but this is something even people from nalsar are saying is false. dont know how you can verify but please you should.
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 06:01
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We at Nalsar are open to any kind of scrutiny. Look at other posts on this website regarding recruitments at Nalsar or for that matter any other national law school. When has it ever been accepted by students from other national law schools without any criticism whatsoever?
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 06:18
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Too good to be true na!? M sure you cant even think of having such awesome placement figures frm ur college, thats why you are doubting this. Not your fault buddy. its alright.
ps: i can smell sth burning :P
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 06:57
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Don't you wish your girl friend was hot like me. Don't cha...
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 06:57
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WELL !!!! NALSAR SHOULD NOT BRAG ABOUT THEIR PLACEMENTS.....
LEAVING COUPLE OF LAW FIRMS
THE SALARY PACKAGE OFFERED IS ABYSMAL... AROUND FEW LAKHS ONLY (SAME AS AMITY)

WHEREAS NUJS IS YET TO COMPLETE HIS RECRUITMENT SEASON

THEN ONE CAN COMPARE THE QUALITY OF PLACEMENTS

DON'T COUNT ON QUANTITY
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 07:04
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Nalsar has taken over. It is proving to be extremely painful for NLS to accept the same.
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 08:03
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Why does NUJS poke its nose between NLS-NALSAR Arguments? Why? Acute Attention Problem they have. Guys, Please, you are not even in the race. :-)
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 09:31
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Agree with #78. Babies do not comment when the men are talking.
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 10:25
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I have long held a belief that NLS is the best among law schools (even the India Today rankings which put NALSAR ahead didnt persuade me, dismissed it as Mr. Singhs generous advertisement grant to the mag), however I must say that persistent evidence has shown that NALSAR may well have become the no. 1. MPL crown back to back, near 100% rec, regular rhodes scholars all indicate that NLS may lose its favourite position soon.
Jyoti 18 Apr 2011, 12:08
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Kian, LI is informative but this message board just brings out the worst in people. It's depressing to read this pile of rubbish written by young lawyers who might well be working on some of my deals. I don't know whether you deliberately encourage provocative statements to get eyeballs but I think it's time LI stop allowing messages to be posted. I'm off this site till then.
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 16:00
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I agree with #81, the comments section has become a forum to initiate veiled attacks at the reputation of institutions discussed in articles on this site.

I understand free speech, but there are reasonable restrictions - and especially on a "responsible" web-site like this one, I would hope that persons keep a civil tongue and at least be courteous to each other (including law school wars waged here).
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 16:26
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I share Jyoti's views. Its high time Legally India stops publishing comments. Hardly ever, anything positive, come out of them and 99% of the time they turn out to be "my law school strongest" slugfest. Such juvenile activities from the students of the so called best law schools of the nation, often, spoil the purpose of the articles.

If you must publish, do so after heavy scrutiny to ensure comments, which do not add anything to the discussion and merely irritate people, are not published.
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 17:01
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Even I agree Kian with the previous comments of stopping the comments from being posted.
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 17:10
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hey wots da latest on da foreign law frms front? isnt there sposed to be sm bci meeting?
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 17:36
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I disagree with Jyoti and the likes supporting her. If there are people who have issues with such sort of comments, you always have the option of not reading them. I mean your moral policing is very subjective. People have the right to express as long as it is not abusive or targetted at a particular person. Kian, always makes sure that no names, proper nouns etc are mentioned in these posts which i guess is sufficient enough.

Also, i'm from NALSAR and i personally don't have an issue with anyone from any law school alleging random stuff. As a responsible student community we are always open to transparency and anyone who thinks that these figures are fudged or too good to be true can call up our administration and verify. Envy and jealosy often makes a man ill and unhealthy, surely something we Nalsarians would never want.

The report has come from the RCC and verified and aunthenticated by the University. Further scrutiny is always welcomed, we are all for transparency.

I guess that should put the debate to rest. The fact of the matter remains, we have students placed. We have a report published. We got students placed without calling a single LPO (unlike NUJS, which is not a bad practice to clear the lot). I hope that other law schools take a cue from this performance and get back to placing their own students.

NALSAR rests its case. Peace.
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 17:51
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@#86 - Well said!
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 17:55
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Awesome work NALSAR RCC, I wonder how other law schools have done. Would be better for other law schools to also publish their reports instead of negatively commenting about NALSAR's recruitment.
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 18:52
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@ 78 - Let the placement statistics of NUJS be out, then you wont be able to say anything. Talking about 59 jobs. Some 70-73 students were already placed by December 2010- January 2011 of 2011 Batch out of some 85 students.

Just wait for the statistics to come.
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 19:08
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@ Man! where was your nose in the post which mentioned the NLS 2012 batch placements, . eeh. Just wait for the NUJS placement report be out. I just wandering if NALSAR is nt able to place some 50-60 students, then it would be a matter of shame.

Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 19:27
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@ 86 - Dude, what if a student is interested in working in a LPO? he should no join it because NALSAR-[ites] would take it as a bad thing.

I just don understand why NALSAR-[ites] make LPO an issuefor NUJS when only two( read it 2 out of some 95) opted for it. Another excuse, haa?
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 20:49
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yaar common noojies....we at NALSAR knows how many of you are placed in LPOs this year. Your CRC invited IPOs and companies which paid only 2-3 lakhs...

I will ask my RCC to give LI the highest and the lowest packages offered to NALSAR students this yr..

Unofficially i can tell u: AVERAGE - above 10 lakhs

Highest - above 15 lakhs
Lowest - Above 5 lakhs (only 2-4 ppl)

I guess no other law school in India can beat this record this yr at least
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 20:56
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I m a fifth yr student at NALSAR. I was talking to some of my RCC executive members. They told me tht there are still 5-6 companies who wants to visit nalsar but we cant accommodate them as we are done with our 100% recruitment.

If NUJS CRC wants we can give them their contact details and then u guys can carry on..

We shldnt fight...NUJS CRC pls come in contact with any of the RCC members at NALSAR...we want all of u to be placed...
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 21:19
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92 .
we at nalsar know*
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 21:20
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This message board is becoming more interesting than (IPL + MPL) combine. A thunderous success report, followed by allegations of fudging, expert report, conspiracy theory, usual slugfest, holier than thou brigade wondering what next.
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 21:28
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i am a fourth year rcc member at NALSAR. we are all very happy that our seniors have done this. now every year we will have 100 % recruitment because they have made it so easy to fabricate recruitment figures. why does LI not call up people or ask people not in RCC about the truth?
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 22:05
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oops..i got caught..i am an NLS Spy.
Anonymous guest 18 Apr 2011, 22:06
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Bunk all that yaar.

Where is my pyaaz bhajji?

And who puked on my cooler?

Also, i need more money for night outs.
kianganz 19 Apr 2011, 00:30
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For those doubting veracity of the figures, what we intend to do is cross check with law firms once a few more final results from RCCs are out. Confirming who has gone to litigation or not is a bit harder to do and probably not strictly necessary,

For now, we proceed on the basis that it is accurate, having spoken to someone at the RCC at length and having no reason to doubt them.

And in particular since it would be quite hard to keep something like this hidden for very long and it would reflect very badly on the college in the long term if it was found out.

We will keep you posted.

Best wishes,
Kian
Anonymous guest 19 Apr 2011, 02:40
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Winner: Bond University (Australia)
First Runner-Up: Nalsar University of Law (India)
Second Runner-Up: Osgoode Hall Law School (Canada)
Best Victims' Representative Team: Nalsar University of Law (India)
Best Defense Representatives Team: National School of Law, University of India Bangalore (India)
Best Vicitms' Legal Representative: Susan Forder, Bond University (Australia)
Best Prosecution Team: Bond University (Australia)
Best Trial Lawyer: Andrew Trotter, Queensland University of Technology (Australia)
Best Defence Counsel: Anjaneya Das, Nalsar university of Law (India)
Best Non-Native English Speaking Team: University of Hong Kong
Best Memorial: National School of Law, University of India Bangalore (India)
Best Overall Speaker: Anjaneya Das, Nalsar University of Law (India)
http://www.icc-trialcompetition.org/cms/
Go Nalsarrrrrrrr!
Anonymous guest 19 Apr 2011, 02:41
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thank you kian for this. please check with nalsar administration and other students. it is going to be very harmful for nalsar's reputation because nalsar rcc has lied about this. but you are right it will be difficult to verify the litigation people but that is where the fudging has happened. everyone with no jobs and people who wanted jobs are being shown as litigation and ngo and civil service.
Anonymous guest 19 Apr 2011, 02:56
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why nliu Bhopal is under performer in campus placement 2010-2011.
Anonymous guest 19 Apr 2011, 04:24
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HEY KIAN,

THIS IS THE RCC FROM NALSAR BATCH OF 2011. PLEASE GO AHEAD AND VERIFY THESE FIGURES WITH ALL THE LAW FIRMS YOU WANT. SINCE, YOU DOUBT THE FACT THAT THESE FIGURES ARE TRUE EVEN AFTER TALKING TO US, THEN CAN YOU PLEASE ASSURE US THAT IF AFTER THE VERIFICATION PROCESS, ALL THE FIGURES ARE CORRECT, YOU WOULD ISSUE A PUBLIC APOLOGY ON YOUR WEBPAGE. WE ARE SURE THAT AN ORGANIZATION AS VIRTUOUS AND MORALLY CORRECT AS YOUR'S WOULD NOT HAVE AN ISSUE DOING IT AFTER GETTING TO KNOW THE TRUTH.

REGARDS,
RCC.
kianganz 19 Apr 2011, 05:42
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Dear Troll #103 (who I am fairly sure is not part of the RCC).

Please read my comment @99 which stated that I am "having no reason to doubt" the RCC.

What we will do is cross-check all colleges' figures with the law firms at the end of the recruitment season for the sake of transparency and to appease the doubters.

We are not singling out Nalsar's RCC, which as I said I am "having no reason to doubt".

Best wishes,
Kian
Anonymous guest 19 Apr 2011, 06:33
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Hahaha.

NALSAR is visibly feeling insecure by NUJS's growth.

The fact is that NALSAR's placement is very bad this year. Except for Amarchand no top firms viz Luthra, AZB, Trilegal, Khaitan have picked students from NALSAR.

On the other hand these firms have picked lots and lots of NUJS students.

And Mr. 78? You are shit scared, right? Bad NALSAR placements...out in an open forum! You have security issues mate!
Anonymous guest 19 Apr 2011, 16:17
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Chill out guys!! Enjoy your last year of college life - you're all going to be dignified secretaries for the rest of your lives after this year comes to an end. Litigators can feel a bit better over here - ah well, as someone said, you guys can call yourself the "rich man's butler", if you please. So stop fighting over silly placements, and enjoy as much as possible of the lovers lane, the parathas, anda bhurji and tomato chutneys, the quiet fag n the mirchi bhajji at shankar's, the tons of old monk, the crazy stoned nights on the terrace and uncle Floyd!!
Anonymous guest 19 Apr 2011, 16:52
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NUJS Sucks! NALSAR doesn't treat you like competition. Your not even worth it.
Anonymous guest 19 Apr 2011, 16:56
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Hey,

I am from NUJS (first year) and missed NALSAR by a few marks in CLAT. I really want to get out of this place, i have been to NALSAR and the standards over there are far better than what we have at NUJS. All this recruitment talk, to be very honest, i know how bad the recruitments at NUJS have been which is why they haven't even come out with the report.
Anonymous guest 19 Apr 2011, 17:26
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Is Tatva really paying 10 to a fresher? What are the AMSSs, AZBs of the world paying?
Anonymous guest 19 Apr 2011, 17:55
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Hello All.
I second 108. I frankly don't understand what all the hooha is about.
Some of us were undoubtedly unfit for anything so we opted for that oh so easy life of litigation.
Some of us just happened to have ivy league llm's dropped on to our laps.
The rest of us got the cream of transactional jobs by fluke.
None of this had anything to do with the moots, the research papers, the summer schools, high level policy work and (at the least) twelve odd internships that most of us have done, Nothing at all.
Life's good.
Its no wonder the rest of the world is getting so flustered. Yes indeed, we at Nalsar had a ball for five years and we're having a ball now.
What incredible luck.

Anonymous guest 19 Apr 2011, 18:46
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I meant #106
Anonymous guest 20 Apr 2011, 00:16
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@ 110

U seem to be the only guy who is so unlucky .... for not getting nalsar

Cheer up... dude wasting time on LI won't help...

Try doing any of these things u hv mentioned in your
post
you may really find a job for yourself
:-)
Anonymous guest 20 Apr 2011, 00:54
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@ 108 - NALSAR spy, caught it.

@107 - Just wait for the report, I wander where were you all people in the last post which mentioned the NLS 2012 placements. Peace, let other law schools complete their placement season, then picture would be clear.
Anonymous guest 20 Apr 2011, 01:09
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Why doesn't NLS come out with its report? I am sure that the batch which is passing out this year must be done with the placements?? And no I am not interested in looking at the names of various Calcutta Ngo's masquerading as placements so, no I won't mention NUJS here.

kianganz 20 Apr 2011, 01:14
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I believe NLS is not yet done with their recruitment...

We will keep following up,
Kian
Anonymous guest 20 Apr 2011, 09:00
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I'm a newbie into the LI forum, so forgive me about my naivete upon being shocked about the hostility to other law colleges - i thought we had enough common shared experiences to relate to jobs which we were naturally disinclined to, et all.

But since we are in this together, should we not celebrate the fact that somehow each individual RCC/CRC/insert-other-name has done exceedingly well to ensure placement figures well above the global average? Spare a thought for students from CNLU, etc. who have had difficulties placing their top students who have diligently passed their exams only to be denied on the basis of the name of the college they happen to be attached to, irrespective of the the merit of their individual students?

I thought formal education was all about broadening your mind. Please don't prove the ancients wrong :-)
Anonymous guest 20 Apr 2011, 20:12
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Can anyone help to raise the level of placement in other NLU's to the standard of the established ones? Wont we be doing better than fighting within ourselves about who has got fatter pay checks than helping the lesser lucky junta of the NLU fraternity who have got no real hope of securing as good as placement as a NALSAR or an NLS or even a placement, for that matter ? Can any initiative in this regard ever be taken?
Anonymous guest 20 Apr 2011, 23:38
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@94 Dear RCC Nalsar, please give the names of those 4-5 companies to NLIU because no one is getting placed there.

@102 - It is true NLIU placements have been pathetic this year. After the initial 22-23 placed, no firm visited the NLIU campus. In fact only 1 organisation BPCL visited the NLIU campus and offered 2-3 students jobs. The only "firms" to "visit" NLIU are Khaitan. Sorry to use plural firm"s". Lakshmi Kumaran & Sridharan recruited via phone interviews and same with Trilegal and AMSS. The figures were not impressive too with each firm taking 2-4 students and khaitan taking 5. Other offers to NLIU students have been from ICICI and Pangea 3. The total number of students placed so far is around 30 out of 58-60 who sat for placements. As I mentioned earlier no big recruiter has visited NLIU after their early August days so obviously there are effectively 30 without jobs (50% of the batch). Also the 30 placed includes PPO's or students who got jobs by themselves.

NLIU students are unaware of other small or mid-tier firms doing well and do not call them. All their students know about is AMSS, Trilegal, ICICI and Khaitan. They do not know about Luthra because Luthra declines to go to NLIU every year. If you happen to mention any other smaller or mid-tier firm which are good in particular area the make faces like a dumb chimp whos unaware of anything (I have a feeling the whole of NLIU assume they would make it to AMSS, but what would you do if you do not make it? sit and scratch your body?). All the other good colleges like NALSAR, NLUJ and NUJS even invite firms like Tatva, bharucha, Zeus, M. dhruva etc. Im sure around 10 students in NLIU have heard of a firm like Tatva.

Also NLIU dreams of bulk placements. I'm sure they would be happy with one firm picking up 60 students that they would not have to work again. They would also be happy with the fact that their "top-tier" students got placed.

I think it is high time the NLIU PCC wakes up to the hard reality instead of sleeping after placing 30 students (well 25 to be specific). Are you gonna cover up saying 50-60 students joined litigation or you won't come out with your report at all. Nevertheless NLIU placements will remain at the same number considering they have 1-2 weeks left of this academic year and I'm sure no firm is visiting your campus during your exams.

So is NLIU happy with their 30 students placed?
Why wasn't any effort made to call up the smaller or mid-tier firms and may be pressurise them to pay more?
If they did invite them why did those firms/companies not turn up to a top 5 national law school of India?
Why does Luthra not visit the NLIU campus? Is the ego at Luthra sky High or of NLIU?
Does the role of your PCC end at placing the top end of your batch?
Do they bother about 30 still left without jobs?
Why doesn't any firm pick up students from NLIU in bulk? Can't NLIU demand that?
Khaitan, Luthra, trilegal, AMSS have this year gone up to recruit 10-17 students from one college. Why did any of these firms not pick such numbers from NLIU? Is the quality that low?
AMSS even recruited 12 from GNLU. Is the quality at GNLU better? or you NLIU do not want to mend your ways?

I guess the answers to some questions can only be given by the PCC of NLIU and certain other firms. I know that my facts are clear unless anyone got recruited recently which will not be through the college but personal efforts.

Now you wait for the NLS 5th Year Placement report to be out.

Ohh, I also forgot to mention, it is really amusing that NLIU had around 8 recruiters this year which placed their 25 students whih includes only 4 which visited the campus i.e. Khaitan, ICICI, Pangea 3 and BPCL followed by no other organisation.I think the battle still exists between NLS-NALSAR-NUJS. Even NLUJ is out of the running with around 10-15 yet to get jobs.

I'll end by mentioning a truth:- NLS is better than NALSAR.
Anonymous guest 21 Apr 2011, 06:00
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I agree with almost everything you said. nalsar rcc cannot give you the names of these companies as they are still trying to place around 6 students. legally india has been failing to verify because it is not possible to check if someone says "litigation" when the truth is that these students are unable to secure jobs..
Anonymous guest 21 Apr 2011, 06:24
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To all those people doubting the veracity of the litigation figures please do get in touch personally and you can be assured that they will have the exact names of the people pursuing litigation. These people never sat for placements. It is an insult to say that they did not get jobs. Some of them are in the top 10 of the batch. The people who did sit for placements all got placed.
Anonymous guest 21 Apr 2011, 18:32
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Please by all means, contact the NALSAR RCC or its members to confirm the fact that we do have 100% placements. Better yet, contact the NALSAR VC for an official confirmation of this fact.

100% placements is not impossible, I think most of the skeptics think it is and since it's not happening in other colleges (or at least has not happened yet) are doubting the veracity of these reports.

Instead the RCC should be congratulated for their tireless dedication to recruitment at NALSAR. Maybe other law schools can take a leaf out of their book.
Anonymous guest 27 Apr 2011, 00:57
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http://nalsar.ac.in/YoungIndia_Fellowship.html

These are the kind of people litigating from Nalsar. The litigation figures do not mean people who did not land a job but people who take a bold decision to join the courts.

Congratulations Abhishek Chopra.
Random 28 May 2011, 13:39
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@Kian

Can you provide the salaries paid by consultancy firms like E&Y who have recruited from Nalsar?
Anony 25 Feb 2012, 08:23
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How are the placements for LLM in Nalsar and other national colleges. I will like to pursue LLM from nationals after my B.A LLB. So kindly let me know about LLM placements.