Nalsar Hyderabad has already placed 34 out of 77 students who will graduate the LLB degree next year, as first published by Bar & Bench.
The Nalsar recruitment committee confirmed us that 17 of those jobs were sealed during the 7 April ‘Day Zero’ of recruitment at the law school, and 17 were gained through pre-placement offers (PPO).
AZB & Partners has so far been the biggest recruiter for the batch graduating in 2019, with 10 candidates hired already, including 3 PPOs and 7 Day Zero jobs.
Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas, Luthra & Luthra, Trilegal, and Shardul Amarchand Mangaldas and Khaitan & Co, in that order, were the other big recruiters, at least in terms of offers.
Although […] doled out the largest number of offers on Day Zero with […] (of which […] were subject to internship), only […] of those were accepted, in addition to […] PPOs.
[…] made […] offers on Day Zero, all of which were rejected. […] jobs accepted by Nalsarites at the firm were all through PPO.
The reasons offers end up being rejected on Day Zeros, is usually due to prime candidates having been offered jobs by more than one firm on the same day, in which case they need to accept one and drop the others under most internal recruitment rules.
S&R Associates and Majmudar & Partners each also hired one student, though only through PPO.
Update 23:07: After a request by the Nalsar RCC, we have edited this story to remove the names and statistics of the firms whose Day Zero offers had not been taken up by students.
| Firms | Accepted Jobs | No. of offers that were made on Day Zero | No. of offers that were accepted | No. of PPOs | Vacation schemes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AZB & Partners | 10 | [Removed] | 7 | 3 | |
| Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas | 7 | [Removed] | 5 | 2 | |
| Khaitan & Co | 3 | [Removed] | 2 | 1 | |
| Luthra & Luthra | 5 | [Removed] | 0 | 5 | |
| Shardul Amarchand Mangaldas | 3 | [Removed] | 1 | 2 | |
| Trilegal | 4 | [Removed] | 2 | 2 | |
| S&R Associates | 1 | [Removed] | - | 1 | |
| Majmudar and Partners | 1 | [Removed] | - | 1 | |
| Herbert Smith Freehills | 1 | 1 | |||
| Linklaters | 1 | 1 | |||
| 36 | 35 | 17 | 17 |
International firms Herbert Smith Freehills and Linklaters each offered one vacation scheme, both of which were secured (those are reflected in the table as accepted jobs, though technically they are only paid internship vacation schemes, that have a high likelihood of converting into a job).
A total of 35 offers were made on Day Zero. 24 students from the batch graduating in 2019 appeared for the Day Zero.
This year is an improvement for the RCC at the law school compared to the 28 jobs gained during last year’s Day Zero excluding one vacation scheme and one foreign law firm job.
Compare: Other NLU Day Zero 2019 stories
- NLS after Day Zero: 46 early jobs in bag out of 76 grads for 2019 • Trilegal biggest, 1 foreign vac scheme (though likely no foreign job)
- NLU Jodhpur after Day Zero: 32 jobs in bag already out of 103 grads for 2019 • Luthra, Trilegal, Khaitan biggest recruiters
- NLU Delhi after Day Zero: 19 jobs in bag already out of 78 grads for 2019 • Trilegal, Khaitan, S&R biggest recruiters
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There are logistical constraints to go to all NLUs in the country.
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1. RCC did not expect the write-up to be in this form when it disclosed ALL the details to LegallyIndia.
2. RCC did not provide LegallyIndia with these details (rejections), but they came to the website from a third source. Apparently someone to whom the RCC may have disclosed these details, eg. a batch-mate, a junior etc.
In either case, the RCC failed at protecting the interests of its own batch-mates (34/77 placed, 43 to go), and that of the batches to follow. No point pointing fingers now, but I do hope that the students take note of such errors and correct them in the future.
Also, please don't go about with the transparency argument to make matters worse. It does sound a sexy one to make, but this isn't how these things work out in the real world that you shall be joining soon. Hopefully the RCC can roll-out an apology, on LI or personally to those that traveled to Hyderabad representing the firms in question, for the indiscretion.
Faculty: NALSAR>NSLIU
Infrastructure: NALSAR>NLSIU
Yet, students still pick NSLIU in CLAT and NIRF ranked NSLIU as #1. Very sad. How can we change this wrong perception outside of Legally India readers??
I think NLS, Nalsar, NUJS and NLU Delhi (order only on the basis of when they were established) seem to be quite secure where they are. Inter-se, I think they offer very similar opportunities and experiences to their students. Year on year, one might do better than the other, but overall, they seem to be doing quite similarly. An inter-se ranking may not yield much other than metrics that tend to vary with every graduating batch.
A more worthwhile inquiry might be to judge the batches of 2013-2017 (last 5 graduating batches) and see where they are in terms of transactional practices, academia, litigation, policy etc. The performance and career progression of alumni might be a metric that reveals more qualitative data on how law schools are faring.
- NLSIU will implement 50% domicile quota (in addition to 30% SC/ST quota). It will be become a local law college with just 20% national merit seats.
- NALSAR will attract better students as a result
- NALSAR will keep doing better at placements year after year
- NALSAR will attract better faculty as well, NLSIU faculty will also become very local (it already is).
- NALSAR will get massive government and industry funding
- NALSAR will get a dynamic administration, while things will get worse at NLSIU
- NALSAR will win Jessup twice, NLSIU will not even reach the quarters
- NALSAR will get many Rhodes scholarships, NLSIU will not get any.
- NUJS will get better administration and overtake NLSIU
- Eventually, NLUD and MNLU will rise, possibly even reach #1 someday.
Mark my words, NLSIU is doomed. The first blow will come later this year, when the domicile quota notification is issued.
Btw, about placements (which all NALSARites seem to keep boasting about), just compare this year's figures.
1) Where does Jindal stand in recruitment rankings? Will it be right to say it's below Gujarat and Jodhpur but above Bhopal and Raipur? Or should it be clubbed among the newer NLUs?
2) What would be the recruitment rankings among the newer NLUs---- Patiala, Lucknow, Orissa, Patna, Ranchi etc?
3) Where would Symbi and Amity stand? Will they be lower than ALL the NLUs, or ahead of a few NLUs?
It will be helpful if a new recruitment ranking can be made. The last one by Legally India is outdated and incomplete.
2.Odisha, Lucknow, Patiala, Ranchi, Patna
3. Ahead of a few NLUs. Below Odisha
My recruitment ranking:(based on overall placements)
NLSIU
NUJS
Nalsar
Gnlu
Nluj
NluD
NLIU
All the top firms visit only these NLUs
Jindal
RML
Symbi
Hnlu
Nluo
Patiala
https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/university-subject-rankings/2018/law-legal-studies
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2018/subject-ranking/law#!/page/0/length/-1/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats
1. [i]"distinctly skewed towards Western countries"[/i]
There are universities from Singapore, Hong Kong, China, Japan, South Korea and Taiwan in the rankings.
2. [i]"And none of the foreign journals will actually accept a paper written on Indian law"[/i]
Really??? What about these?? And I can cite hundreds more:
- Upendra Baxi, "A Known but an Indifferent Judge': Situating Ronald Dworkin in contemporary Indian Jurisprudence," 1, I.CON: International Journal of Constitutional Law 557.
- Upendra Baxi, 'What Happens Next is Up to you': Human Rights at Risk in Dams and Development, 16 American University International Law Journal 16
- BS Chimni, The Self, Modern Civilization, and International Law: Learning from Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi's Hind Swaraj or Indian Home Rule, European Journal of International Law 23(4):1159
- Priya Gupta, Judicial Constructions: Modernity, Economic Liberalization, and the Urban Poor in India, 42 FORDHAM URBAN LAW JOURNAL 25
- Priya Gupta, The Peculiar Circumstances of Eminent Domain in India, 49 OSGOODE HALL LAW JOURNAL 445
- Priya Gupta, Ending Finders, Keepers: The Use of Title Insurance to Alleviate Uncertainty in Land Holdings in India, 17 U.C. DAVIS JOURNAL OF INTERNATIONAL LAW & POLICY 63
- Shivprasad Swaminathan, Eclipsed by Orthodoxy: The Vanishing Point of Consideration and the Forgotten Ingenuity of the Indian Contract Act 1872’ (2017) 12 Asian Journal of Comparative Law 141
- C Raj Kumar, “Corruption in India: A Violation of Human Rights”, UC DAVIS LAW REVIEW, Volume 49, No.2,
- C Raj Kumar, “Legal Education, Globalization, and Institutional Excellence: Challenges for the Rule of Law and Access to Justice in India”, INDIANA JOURNAL OF GLOBAL LEGAL STUDIES, Volume 20, Issue 1
3. [i]"There is not a single Indian law journal mentioned therein,"[/i]
To name a few: Economic & Political Weekly, Journal of Intellectual Property Rights, Contributions to Indian Sociology....
https://www.scopus.com/sources?zone=&origin=NO%20ORIGIN%20DEFINED
It's sad that people state BS without checking up facts. Kian, you should intervene here and do a story on this! How is it that China, Japan, Hong Kong and Singapore make the list but not India? How many times will we keep moaning crap about racial bias??
With regard to the illustrative list of articles you mentioned, I hope you have read them instead of simply picking up the names. If you have, you would doubtless have seen the comparative aspects addressed therein too. I didn't say one cannot talk about Indian law in articles published by foreign journals, you are simply assuming I did. I said that without having brought in a comparative aspect or at least an overarching abstract context that applies regardless of jurisdiction, it is quite difficult for an Indian legal article to be accepted by most foreign journals. Without any intention to brag, having published at least 5 of those in journals from Oxbridge and Yale, I believe I do know at least a little bit of how the process works. Trust me when I say that hundreds of good quality articles are rejected by most of these journals, simply because they believe the scope is too geographically limited. This will become more apparent with regard to commercial or financial law papers, as opposed to public law ones. Also, some of the scholars you have mentioned are actually scholars of international repute, one can hardly make a trend analysis based on their illustrations alone, besides there being the fact that not every academic can be a Baxi or a Chimni.
Regarding the SCOPUS point, I stand corrected, I didn't see JIPR mentioned therein. But the other two are not exactly hardcore legal journals as such. However, my original point still holds. There are several excellent journals publishing quite good articles in India that have little hope of making the SCOPUS list owing to impact factor related issues. If you are actually interested in Indian legal academia/publishing sector, you would know what I am talking about.
Once again, I am NOT saying we are perfect and don't have any improvements to strive for. Of course we do. But not featuring in that list actually doesn't mean we are worthless either. I have seen scores of NLU grads pit their strength against students from these foreign universities time and again and hold their own and even best them at times, just as I have seen several very sub-standard graduates from these universities too. So, there are good points and bad points and while we indeed have a long way to go, all hope is not lost yet. If you still wish to pick a fight about this, as it appeared from your pugnacious tones, please feel free to go ahead.