Nalsar Day Zero 2020: Record 47 jobs (incl 8 foreigns) sewn up, AZB surprises by recruiting the most, Luthra next

Nalsar 2020 RCC: Strong early placements
Nalsar 2020 RCC: Strong early placements

Nalsar Hyderabad’s 2020 graduating batch has kicked of its first day of recruitments (also popularly known as Day Zero), on 6 April, with students having already sewn up 23 pre-placement offers (PPOs) and a total of 8 prestigious vacation schemes and/or training contracts with foreign law firms.

Out of the 34 candidates taking part in Day Zero activities, 16 accepted job offers from top Indian firms.

This result manages to top last year’s total of 34 jobs by Day Zero (though the batch size since then has also increased from 77 students to 113 this year), and is historically the largest number of all times at a Nalsar Day Zero.

Just over half the Nalsar 2020 batch - 69 students - are participating in the Recruitment Coordination Committee (RCC) activities, out of whom 47 are now accounted for.

The number of highly-paid vacation schemes and training contracts is huge at such an early stage, perhaps reflecting foreign firms keen to pip Indian law firms to Day Zero.

UK magic circle firm Linklaters doled out 2 training contracts and one vacation scheme (VC) internship (vac schemes often have a good chance of converting into full training contract job offers after completion). Training contracts at Linklaters initially pay £47,000 (around Rs 42 lakh per year), increasing to £52,500 after one year and £83,000 (Rs 75 lakh) after two years of working on qualification (however, training contracts are preceded by at least one year of the obligatory conversion course, which large UK firms normally cover tuition fees and pay some stipends).

Fellow magic circle firm Allen & Overy (A&O) also offered one training contract job. Rounding off the foreign firms, Herbert Smith Freehills offered two VCs and US firm Skadden Arps offered one VC, and Pinsent Masons Hong Kong has offered a winter vacation scheme.

AZB, L&L, CAM, SAM dominated Day 0 hauls

Day Zero itself saw 16 students accept offers from law firms led by AZB & Partners, which picked up 7, in addition to 2 students it had offered PPOs to. Clearly AZB is liking Nalsar, having hired 7 on Day Zero last year plus 3 PPOs.

The next-biggest recruiter was L&L Partners (formerly known as Luthra), which hired 3 students on Day Zero in addition to 5 PPOs made to students after internships with the firm (last year, Luthra had hired 5 via PPO, but 0 via Day Zero).

Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas hired a total of 6 (with 2 via Day Zero, similar to last year’s total of 7), closely followed by Shardul Amarchand Mangaldas with 4 (half of which came on Day Zero - last year SAM hired 3 from Nalsar).

Khaitan & Co and Trilegal hired a total of 3 students.

Talwar Thakore & Associates also attended Day Zero and hired one student.

Finally, four others - Fox Mandal & Associates, ICICI Bank, Majmudar & Co and S&R Associates - hired a total of 5 students via PPOs.

The Nalsar Recruitment Coordination Committee (RCC) 2020 members, pictured above are: (front row l-r) Deep Shah, Shaktibhushan Shukla, Somya Jena, Karan Sangani; (second row) Aditya Sarkar, N Sivaraman, Srija Kumar, Anirudh Singh, Arun V Nair.

NLSIU Bangalore, NUJS Kolkata and NLU Delhi have also had their Day Zero already and we’ll be publishing their figures soon.

Full Nalsar Day Zero 2020 recruitments

Name of RecruiterPPOsDay Zero AcceptancesVac Schemes / TcsTotal
Allen & Overy LLP--11
Herbert Smith Freehills--22
Linklaters LLP--33
Skadden--11
Pinsent Masons--11
AZB & Partners27-9
Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas42-6
L & L Partners Law Offices53-8
Shardul Amarchand Mangaldas22-4
Khaitan & Co21-3
Trilegal3--3
Talwar Thakore & Associates-1-1
Fox Mandal & Associates1--1
ICICI Bank1--1
Majmudar & Co2--2
S & R Associates1--1
TOTALS2316847

Comments

FigureHead 10 Apr 2019, 13:13
+1 -0
Kian, are these the figures after both Day Zero and Day One at NALSAR? Does NALSAR even have a Day One?
@FigureHead 10 Apr 2019, 13:51
+3 -0
Hey! These are PPOs+ Day 0 figures. NALSAR does have a day 1, and a rolling recruitment drive with PSUs/GCs. Day One is happening this week afaik.
Baniya Buddhi 10 Apr 2019, 13:14
+1 -6
I'm actually surprised that these firms have enough work given the market conditions or is this some kind of smoke screen?
Corp lawyer 10 Apr 2019, 15:35
+14 -1
You remain a baniya in a baniya law firm. There is so much work our office has less lawyers and more work. Wonder which place are you working at and what information is your partner feeding you. In fact top law firm teams are growing rather than remaining stagnant.
@LI 10 Apr 2019, 13:56
+8 -0
Additionally, just want to point out that while the batch strength has increased-- the number of people sitting for placement hasn't. NALSAR RCC subscriber counts were in the 60s when there were 80 kids in the batch, and are in the 60s now that there are more kids. Think that's also relevant considering you point out that there's been an increase in batch size!
Former RCC 11 Apr 2019, 03:36
+1 -2
2019 barely had 40 subscribers (if even that many). Some of those have not applied to anything at all, choosing to apply for LLMs/civil, etc. I think 2017 was something of an exception with around 60 subscribers, but historically 40-50 would be more indicative.
Facts-oriented reader 12 Apr 2019, 05:34
+0 -0
To clarify, the number of 69 quoted in the article is inclusive of PPO holders, as the RCC for the current batch was formed at an earlier stage, before PPOs started coming in. The number of 40 subscribers quoted by you is the subscriber count post PPOs (which is when the 2019 RCC was formed), so clearly the numbers have not changed drastically in terms of those interested in placements from both the batches.
IPS? 10 Apr 2019, 14:03
+17 -0
PPO from Fox Mandal?

Did someone accept Fox Mandal's offer before day zero? : P
Guest 10 Apr 2019, 15:15
+3 -8
This is probably RM son of DM
Too many Foxes 11 Apr 2019, 12:40
+4 -0
This is Fox Mandal & Associates (based out of Bangalore). It is different from Fox Mandal & Co. (the Delhi one), which I presume you are referring to. It is also different from the original Fox & Mandal which is based out of Kolkata. FYI https://www.legallyindia.com/lawfirms/too-many-foxes-fox-mandal-cal-distances-self-from-som-delhi-with-newspaper-ad-due-to-conflict-20180305-9139
Moped 10 Apr 2019, 15:15
+3 -15
Y r people still considering Luthra after d recent exits?

Desperate times I guess.
K Rahul 10 Apr 2019, 15:40
Troll
+5 -6
If Nalsar grads can consider Majmudar jobs [...] along with having one of the worst work atmospheres, I think Luthra is much better. [...]
Guest 10 Apr 2019, 15:30
+24 -20
Probably the best NLU placements of the year. Tight slap to haters and Sadhguru bhakts who were slandering NALSAR.
LOL 10 Apr 2019, 15:46
+18 -9
Wait for NUJS, bud!
Guest 10 Apr 2019, 15:53
+33 -2
Total number at NUJS would go beyond 60 from what I've heard, but it's not really a inter-NLU competition no matter how many comments are made here to that effect. It's a good thing that despite markets not exactly booming, so many students are getting good jobs and starting a new career beside each other. Wish all them luck!
Guest 10 Apr 2019, 16:05
+6 -6
Doesn't matter. You need both placements and faculty research for rankings. The NUJS faculty research score was one of the lowest in NIRF. You need to improve that to get in the top 3. First stop your profs fleeing to NLUD and JGLS.
Top 10 Apr 2019, 19:23
+9 -10
Modi and Sadguru bhakts don't want you'll to study and become intellectuals. That threatens their power and proves their bhakts stupidity. They don't care about number of placements. Batao kitne grads pakode bhechenge? Koi nahi to aur paanch saal ruko. Modi sabse pakode bichwake chodega.
Guest 10 Apr 2019, 15:58
+4 -0
It's unacceptable that LI gives us one set of stats and NIRF considers another. A petition must be filed to the MHRD and articles should be written pointing out how the MHRD was hoodwinked by certain law schools.
Guest 10 Apr 2019, 16:00
+27 -7
Nalsar produces the right mix of corporate lawyers, litigators, academicians, IAS officers and proudly left-wing activists not afraid to challenge people like Sadhguru.
Guest 11 Apr 2019, 17:05
+12 -2
And official spokespersons of the RSS.
Yank City Lawyer 10 Apr 2019, 16:12
+9 -0
LPC is not required as Indian trainees do the QLTS. That’s wrong info.
kianganz 14 Apr 2019, 13:40
+0 -0
Thanks, have corrected!
Desi associate 10 Apr 2019, 16:33
+21 -1
Skadden?! How?!
Guest 11 Apr 2019, 17:07
+8 -0
Skadden's London office, like the London offices of all US firms, has training contracts.
Guest 10 Apr 2019, 17:53
+6 -11
Projected placement rankings: NALSAR>NLSIU>NLUD>NUJS>NLIU>NLUJ
Black panther 10 Apr 2019, 21:17
+4 -0
Nlud didn't have a good day zero.
Siddhany 11 Apr 2019, 03:21
+4 -5
How can you place NLS after NALSAR..
Moreover NLIU before NLUJ!!??
Erm 11 Apr 2019, 08:24
+5 -3
Bro NLIU did better than NLUJ last year. Things were so bad at NLUJ that they couldn’t even release their figures.
Yash a 9 Sept 2020, 13:43
+1 -0
Because Nalsar has better placements than nlsiu
NALSAR 11 Apr 2019, 03:40
+6 -2
NUJS will thump everyone buddy, they have a better reputation at firms because they actually end up staying in larger numbers.
NUJS Student 11 Apr 2019, 06:03
+33 -0
Speaking as someone studying at NUJS right now, I believe I speak for my batchmates when I say that we have no desire to 'thump' anyone. We are encouraged down here to follow our personal choices of career and helped to follow whatever path we end up choosing. Just trying to do our best, that's all. I also congratulate NALSAR students and CRC for having an exceptional Day Zero. Hopefully we will end up working together amicably and productively in the days to come. The more good people join the industry, the better!
Guest 11 Apr 2019, 06:52
+19 -0
A rare instance of maturity shown in the LI comments-space. Makes a nice change from the usual chest thumping and mud-slinging that one comes across here usually. Buddy, if you are indeed a student, you will go places.
Projector 11 Apr 2019, 18:15
+4 -0
GNLU 2019 tier 1 jobs - 42: 20 PPOs and 22 day zero
cool 10 Apr 2019, 18:56
+9 -0
Skadden -nice. finally US firms looking at schools in India. Magic circle is standard. Getting an elite shop like skadden into the mix is new
Kal Tak 10 Apr 2019, 19:01
+5 -0
Firstly, LPC is not required by Indian students as pointed out by a fellow reader. Kian, please incorporate edits aside from just approving comments.

Secondly, NLUJ day zero also happened early this month (or so my whispering birds tell me).
Guest 10 Apr 2019, 21:07
+5 -0
Folks, please remember that a balance of placements, faculty and research counts for rankings, so it means jack if your law school has a few hires more in X law firm but has a f**ked up research culture.
Guest 11 Apr 2019, 04:05
+4 -2
Exactly what outstanding research has NALSAR produced in the last five years? As someone who has more than a passing interest in legal academia, I'd be genuinely interested to know that. In fact of all the NLUs, I've only seen NLUD taking concrete steps in that direction during that period. Not even NLSIU. Hopefully that scene will change in the days to come.
Guest 11 Apr 2019, 07:58
+3 -0
Let me give you a small taster (of which I am aware) - three faculty members and one student were cited by the Supreme Court of India in various judgements in 2018. I am sure they made some sense in whatever work they had done to get that honour.
Guest 11 Apr 2019, 09:11
+3 -2
Given the quality of the current judgments that SC comes up with, that honour is dubious at best. This is no reflection on the research of the concerned people though, it might have been excellent on its own merit. But when we say research, we usually mean quality publications, both national and international, projects etc. Having closely observed SC workings for the last 3-4 years, I can say that judges these days mostly rely on their young clerks to come up with authority in support of their argument and often the first few hits in research databases turn out to be those. There are exceptional judges, of course.
Guest 11 Apr 2019, 10:27
+11 -0
The article cited by Justice Chandrachud for his separate opinion in the Sabarimala judgement was written by Prof. Faizan Mustafa and Jagteshwar Singh Sohi. It was published in the law and religion journal published by an American law school. It can be accessed here if you want to ascertain its quality (without accepting that DKY knows a thing or two about law) - https://digitalcommons.law.byu.edu/lawreview/vol2017/iss4/9/

Sidharth Chauhan was cited in the Aadhar judgement. His paper had been published in the Seminar magazine (I accept it hasn't peer reviewed, but again the judgment isn't some lousy unknown one). Similarly, Srujana Bej was cited here for a joint publication she had in the EPW.

You'll find that none of these can be honestly called lousy.

Further, Sudhanshu Kumar has revised the most recent editions of SM Dugar's Competition Law and contributed chapters to CR Datta on Company Law.

Moreover, Prof Amita Dhanda has had the Ford Foundation grant for a while now. I know that she, and two others in that grant, have recently finished working on books on housing, education and... (the third subject of their investigation escapes me). These are now being published by OUP and I think one of them is out already (not sure).

Finally, Prof Mustafa and his team (Sidharth Chauhan, Jagteshwar Singh Sohi, Sudhanshu Kumar and Vaibhav Ganji wale) have done a report for Ministry of Law and Justice on the NLUs. It can easily found online.

In sum, I would say that these are some of the younger people at NALSAR who are easily accessible and hence I know of their work done over the last year or so. However, I am sure that there are others over here who are working away quietly and haven't been given there fair share of publicity (which often goes to the law firm world of others).
NALSAR Faculty 11 Apr 2019, 11:25
+10 -0
To add to the above, Neha Pathakji has published a book on 'Corporations and Disability Rights' with OUP India in 2018. This was developed from her Ph.D. thesis submitted in 2015. Recently recruited teachers such as Dr. Manohar Reddy and Dr. Murali Karanam also have publications in credible peer-reviewed journals. Some of the MBA faculty members have published quite a bit in SCOPUS Indexed journals related to management studies. However, the NIRF Rankings for 2019 are based on research output shown during the calendar years 2015, 2016 and 2017. So work published in 2018 would not have been counted this time.

Overall, I would agree with the observation that NLU Delhi has done much better on this count over the past 6-7 years. They have consciously developed their research centres, both in terms of staff and funding. More importantly, the research-oriented faculty members have been given light teaching responsibilities (5-6 classes per week) that enable them to devote considerable time for independent writing. In comparison, faculty members at NALSAR usually engage 10-12 classes per week apart from attending to administrative responsibilities. The situation should improve over the next 2-3 years as we recruit more faculty members and ensure an equitable distribution of teaching commitments. The Governing Bodies have also approved a Research-Based Incentive Scheme for faculty members apart from provisions for seed money to initiate research projects. The rate of publication in refereed journals will also increase as many of the younger faculty members complete their own PhDs.
Guest 11 Apr 2019, 12:13
+5 -0
Now this is the sort of reply I can get behind. Factual and sound.
DD 11 Apr 2019, 12:55
+4 -0
Thank you, friend. You have just shut down the trolls from other law schools. These idiots cannot understand that rankings the world over consider both graduate outcomes plus faculty research (as they should). If law school A scores 20 CAM placements and has faculty that ranks 8/10 in quality, it is better than law school B which scores 26 CAM placements but has faculty that ranks 3/10 in quality. Apart from this, having good profs who give interesting lectures and let you work on good research projects makes law school so much more worthwhile than just dozing off in class and studying on your own instead.
Hearsay 11 Apr 2019, 02:36
+4 -0
From what I have heard, 5 people cleared UPSC from nalsar last year although not great ranks.
I have also heard that the present batch has 4-5 who could have secured jobs but chose upsc... In comparison, NLU-d seems to be the only college with comparable diversity in top notch jobs.
London 11 Apr 2019, 04:45
+15 -0
For £47,000 in 2019/2020, you'll take home £35,498. This means £2,958 in your pocket a month. Over the year you'll pay £6,898 income tax and £4,604 in National Insurance.

You would need around Rs. 422,703.24 (£4,678.44) in London to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with Rs. 99,000.00 in Delhi (assuming you rent in both cities). This calculation uses our Cost of Living Plus Rent Index to compare cost of living. This assumes net earnings (after income tax).

Compare here: https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=India&country2=United+Kingdom&city1=Delhi&city2=London&tracking=getDispatchComparison
Guest 11 Apr 2019, 05:53
+2 -4
Kian, you better establish which NLU has best faculty/research or you must block fake claims. Else we will boycott LI.
Guest 11 Apr 2019, 06:50
+9 -2
Please do. Who is stopping you? What you are asking for cannot be determined in objective terms. Publications are indicative of research, but do not reveal whether the faculty member is being allowed to cut short on teaching obligations or spending time solving student-issues. Unless all NLUs have some sort of common benchmark regarding these, faculty quality cannot be objectively determined or compared. Foreign degrees no longer guarantee anything. I have seen some NLU faculty with degrees from the best places, but with sub-standard teaching ability. Why so obsessed with ranking anyway? If students from an NLU are happy with their faculty, they will encourage others to join there; if they aren't, then they won't. Simple.
Guest 11 Apr 2019, 12:57
+4 -0
Kian on #14 we just saw excellent proof on Nalsar's faculty research. So please allow such comments and block the fake news trolls who claim Nalsar faculty do no research.
Guest 11 Apr 2019, 15:02
+3 -0
I agree with the quality of the research mentioned, though it was anecdotal mostly. Individual and comparable instances like that can possibly be cited for all the top tier NLUs, including NLSIU, NUJS and NLUD. However, if you are considering administrative and institutional efforts to ensure propagation of a research-rich culture, I would still say NLUD has got the edge in that, though it remains to be seen what happens after RS leaves the place. Possibility of people like Jaswal at the helm of affairs there doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
Rahul Gandhi 11 Apr 2019, 15:16
+2 -1
NALSAR faculty is better than NLUD faculty, in both research and teaching. Re research, NLUD has some NLU alumni, but do they do the same amount of research? A report on the death penalty is all that NLUD seems to have produced. In comparison, Prof Dhanda has been doing high quality research on many topics for several years, while other younger profs are also doing good work, as someone has pointed out. Re teaching, apparently the so-called star profs at NLUD don't even take classes most of the time.
Guest 11 Apr 2019, 16:00
+2 -0
Why are you so hell-bent on pitting two NLUs against each other when you can't possibly be in a position to know about both? Why does it have to be one or the other? Both the places can have good faculty/researchers. It is an established fact that NLUD administration provides more support for research than any other NLU at present. I am from neither NLU, but have visited both the places and interacted with the people there and that's an unbiased opinion. I am not going to compare individual people there. Of course Dhanda is a senior professor and has loads of quality research experience, no doubt about that. If you don't know anything about the research NLUD produces beyond Anup's work, you should look into their Competition and IP Centre and the work done by Yogesh Pai and Arul Scaria there. Excellent stuff!
Just Citizen 12 Apr 2019, 03:29
+3 -1
What about our Joe?
Rofl Singh 12 Apr 2019, 10:11
+3 -0
NALSAR Joe... Rofl
Good 1 bro
Guest 12 Apr 2019, 10:25
+5 -0
He got a training contract.
GNLU DayZero 12 Apr 2019, 05:54
+2 -1
GNLU’s day zero: 22 accepted offers (CAM and Trilegal made the most number of offers) + 20 PPOs ( Khaitan (5), CAM, AZB mostly). Plus 3 offers from foreign firms, including Linklaters LLP.
Guest 12 Apr 2019, 06:33
+1 -2
NALSAR deserves to be ranked 1, if you add up points for placements, moots, faculty, research and infra.
Guest 12 Apr 2019, 06:36
+8 -2
For the record, those who attacked Sadhguru (the three moderators and the famous Joe) secured the best placements. This busts the myth predawn social media that these students are "unproductive" and "lazy".It instead shows that a critical mind will win you rewards.
Unfortunate 12 Apr 2019, 15:24
+5 -1
Congratulations to those who have been placed. The RCC however has shown zero tact - simply jumping the gun and putting out the figures to claim credit when there are many who are still to be placed. Anyone who has been a part of such committees knows the importance of providing the recruitment figures only after everyone is placed and not disclosing the figures at the get go.

It is one thing for LegallyIndia to find out information from its sources another and for the RCC to officially put out a statement/put its name behind the figures.

And no matter what criticism is directed at the NUJS RCC, they have displayed enough presence of mind to not go around trumpeting their placements and this is one of the important reasons why they have been one of the more successful RCCs historically.
kianganz 13 Apr 2019, 06:49
+5 -0
Not at all, actually. We had reached out to the Nalsar RCC with the figures we had got from sources, and they sensibly made sure that our numbers were accurate before publication.

We have pretty much published NUJS day zero figures most of the previous years, even without the RCC's help, and there is zero evidence that this has had negative impacts on recruitments.

Perhaps a superstition exists that recruitments have been great exactly because the NUJS RCC did not confirm figures? However, confirmation of figures by other NLUs' RCCs in previous years never seems to have negatively impacted their placements.

I also fail to see any logical reason why us publishing unconfirmed figures would somehow benefit students vis-a-vis unconfirmed figures. In either case, unless they have their head in the sand, recruiters will be aware that a large number of NUJS students have secured jobs on Day Zero. That is not rocket science.

And in any case, if the RCC did assist, recruiters would at least be aware that not every single person in the batch even sat for Day Zero interviews, so there are still lots of other candidates out there who would be interested in joining non-Day Zero recruiters.
Unfortunate 13 Apr 2019, 14:07
+4 -0
Well Kian, you'd be surprised to know the number of companies which indeed do not know how many students have been placed.

I have been a member of an RCC in the past - and no, not of NUJS but one of the other two top law schools. And this seems to be one of first instances where the NALSAR RCC has gone ahead and confirmed immediately post day zero.

Having dealt with recruiters, I can't stress enough of about how much numbers matter to them. They don't even consider the college and the students once you tell them the number of students who have been placed. Case at point - the bank which recruits the most and the Kolkata based famous conglomerate which have demanded that they be accommodated with the firms on Day Zero.

I know what your stated position in this regard has been, Kian. But it assumes that firms/companies will consider CVs of students who remain. That is a misnomer. We don't operate in an ideal world. The RCC's job is to act in the best interest of its subscribers. And speaking from experience, it is not served by disxlosing figures upfront.

As for NUJS, I took the example merely to differentiate it from the NALSAR RCC which has gone ahead and disclosed the figures.

Lastly, there is indeed quite a bit of difference between what you put out from sources and what is endorsed by the RCC. The NALSAR RCC will realise the perils soon enough. Day Zero is the hardest to organize but the easiest recuritment day.
Guest 13 Apr 2019, 09:47
+2 -1
Some good offers expected at JGLS. There quite a few students whose parents are influential in the present batch.
Guest 13 Apr 2019, 10:17
+2 -1
NLUJ also had record placements this year (42 jobs). Why isn't LI conveying other colleges.
Guest 13 Apr 2019, 11:09
+1 -1
I agree. NLUJ has been unfairly slandered on this website without basis. NLUJ has consistently had very good placements (including vacation scheme). NLUJ did NOT lie to NIRF and the ranking ahead of NLIU and GNLU was entirely deserved. Besides, all CLAT aspirants choose NLUJ ahead of NLIU and GNLU, so what's the problem??
Sadhguru 13 Apr 2019, 17:07
+0 -2
NALSAR has been ranked behind NLUD for two successive years in NIRF. So placements are not enough for you to be proud of.
Guest 14 Apr 2019, 19:12
+2 -2
One fo the rising young stars of the RSS, Raghav Awashti, is a Nalsar grad, so it is wrong to say that Nalsar only produces anti-nationals.

https://twitter.com/raghav355