Nalsar, NUJS cancel exams, scale prior marks • +50% students may not have ‘effective access’ to online exams • BCI (mostly) agrees

Pencil and paper exams may not be happening for a while
Pencil and paper exams may not be happening for a while

Nalsar Hyderabad and NUJS Kolkata have opted not to hold online exams this semester in light of potential difficulties faced by students, in contrast to NLSIU Bangalore, which has opted for students to sit their final exams entirely online in six- to eight-hour exams spread out over a longer time period.

According to The Telegraph, all NUJS students would be granted provisional promotions, giving 50% weightage to students’ previous examination performance with the remainder being awarded on other work completed this semester, though earlier online exams had been conducted in April.

Nalsar too has gone down a similar path, despite the academic council (AC) having initially approved online exams; however, some students had then raised concerns, according to Nalsar vice-chancellor (VC) Prof Faizan Mustafa.

The Bar Council of India (BCI), meanwhile, as first shared by an anonymous reader in on Legally India Topical, has told VCs in a circular dated 27 May 2020 that online exams would only be fine for final-year students, while intermediate year students should be be advanced on the basis of previous years’ performance (excerpt below).

BCI circular to VCs
BCI circular to VCs

Nalsar rationales

Mustafa explained that for the 16 May AC, “for the first time in Nalsar history I invited three student reps to attend AC meeting” and that finally the AC had decided to “scale up marks rather than have online exam”, because they “did not want students to have any mental stress of online exam” and “did not want elite to have an advantage over less privileged”, particularly over internet access issues.

Update 10 June 2020: It is understood from several sources, that Nalsar has implemented a so-called “no detriment” policy, which means that “for the end semester component of each subject, the higher of either the sum of midsem and project scores, or a score derived from the student’s CGPA, will be taken”.

Furthermore, Nalsar had removed the deadline on internal project submissions so that results would now be declared on a rolling basis, he said. “If scaling up adversely affects CGPA we will take CGPA of earlier semester so that students are not at a disadvantage.”

“Thus our session is on track,” added Mustafa. “Since no resit exams are there we are starting our new session on July 1.”

“We completed all our teaching as per time table and posted pen drives though no examination was going to be held,” he noted, adding that he “does not see examination as the ultimate goal of education” and that .

Prof Amita Dhanda, Nalsar’s dean academic affairs, explained that the decision was made based on a “combination of accessibility, stress and concerns from both students and teachers about holding unproctored exams which caused us to follow this method for mandatory and some elective courses” (though not to seminars and visiting courses).

She added: “We have been trying to worry about what are the dictates of fairness when faced with an act of God.”

“How to help our young students cope with uncertainty” and worrying about “how to make learning effective” during this crisis, had been the priorities during the crisis, she said. While agreeing that tough choices had to be made, she added: “We prefer tough choices which lean towards kindness.”

The numbers around access

We have asked Dhanda for some further statistics on how many students were potentially facing issues of access in the case of online exams.

“The answer to the question would depend upon how you define access,” she said. “The people who have no or very limited access is about 50% in the post-graduate students. In the undergraduate students with no access whatsoever may be 60 odd students.

“But the numbers climb hugely that is more than half when you speak about effective access. Here questions of stability of connections and cost of the service come into play. NALSAR has provided for reimbursement of upgraded connections and to that extent attempted to help.”

But access is not just about internet, according to the Nalsar academic council dean.

“I would also in the context of access want us to address questions of restricted physical spaces in many homes; questions of domestic discord and mental distress. And the emotional disconnect that online learning seems to bring,” she said.

“We are trying to address these at NALSAR in active conversations between students, faculty and administration for the coming semester. The evaluation process for this semester was devised in the same manner.

“For us flexibility and the need to listen to each other is key. It is important for us to continually acknowledge that the situation far from being perfect is quite horrible for many. It is important for us to remember this at all times so that our functioning promotes solidarity and kindness.

“Any university but especially a law school needs to think so that rules are not followed for their own sake but are tweaked where necessary to achieve the purpose for which they were made.”

Photo by Ryan McGilchrist

Comments

NLUJ represent 9 Jun 2020, 15:58
+12 -25
Nlu jodhpur is also not conducting exams and has asked the students to submit projects in lieu of end terms.
Another NLUJ represent 9 Jun 2020, 18:03
+14 -4
They should cancel the projects too. No exams mean no exams.
Guest 9 Jun 2020, 19:18
+2 -6
Why is comment 1 being downvoted for no reason? Biased LI blacks out news about NLUJ, so it is useful someone tells us.
Guest 9 Jun 2020, 16:26
+23 -0
Age and experience with a touch of empathy is very important.
Law and Pov 9 Jun 2020, 16:44
+23 -3
Mini law and pov class by Dhanda. She is amazing.
Boohoo 9 Jun 2020, 17:25
+18 -48
Law School doesn't bend to such weak decision-making. Very easy to absolve responsibility on the part of the admin citing challenging circumstances. This is more like the TLCs of yore, where exams didn't happen and everyone passed.

Effectively, this semester has been made pointless for NALSAR and NUJS. Whether any learning has taken place must be presumed, rather than verified. A real slippery slope, and dereliction of responsibility. What next? Abolish grading as a concept? On the other hand, Sudhir has ensured that not only aren't days lost, but effective evaluation of learning outcomes can take place. In the job/education market, the current Law School batches will be half a year ahead of their peers in NALSAR and NUJS.
Guest 9 Jun 2020, 19:22
+5 -21
I fully agree with Boohoo. The whole motto of NLUs is that they are a cut above TLCs. Also, it is extremely unfair to students who did badly in projects and were studying hard for the main paper. Such students should approach the court and demand a "Right to Exam".
Pressured Admin 9 Jun 2020, 20:46
+24 -9
We get it, you're salty- nothing new. Now go write your exams.
Brohooo 10 Jun 2020, 07:12
+17 -4
You sound so much like PR Krishnaswamy. Having told Facebook, that the oversight board cannot function during the pandemic and already having not given a [.....] about NLS students mental health, are you coming to LI to self promote yourself?

This post was about the good work of NALSAR and NUJS, don't PR your self here too. We have had enough of your toxicity in the NLS post.
Joyful 10 Jun 2020, 13:22
+0 -0
The NUJS declared the result of the "online" examination of the final year on 9 June 2020. Students are happy.
Guest 9 Jun 2020, 19:04
+9 -33
Reckless populism that explains why these colleges will remain second-best. Professor Sudhir Krishnaswamy deserves to be applauded for sticking up to standards and not giving way to populism. That is the difference between gaining recognition as the Harvard of the East and topping NIRF rankings year after year, versus being second-best.
Guest 9 Jun 2020, 19:08
+14 -0
LI , please also mention the Cyclone, as students from Calcutta study in many different NLUs. Over 7,000 trees in the city fell down and internet connections were snapped for many days.
Shakespeare 9 Jun 2020, 19:09
+32 -2
But academic rigor is a noble pursuit; And Sudhir is an honourable man.
Guest 9 Jun 2020, 19:12
+6 -41
[quote] because they “did not want students to have any mental stress of online exam” and “did not want elite to have an advantage over less privileged”, particularly over internet access issues.[/quote]

Biggest load of rubbish made up by students trying to shirk work. I challenge you to name even one student in an NLU who does not have internet access. Forget cities, every village in India today has a net connection. Those students without computer at home can easily go to a friends house (and even then I refuse to believe that no student has a computer at home). There is nothing more shameful than pretending to be underprivileged. You are insulting those who are really below the poverty line.
Law School 9 Jun 2020, 22:55
+28 -2
Lmao you want someone to go to a friend's house to watch an entire semester of classes, give exams, research for projects, and just any other general learning? You must have very generous friends.

Moreover, just because you think people aren't as underprivileged as you think they are, don't make access any less of an issue. Students who haven't been able to even pay the 50,000 fee to clat for reserving their spot in universities have made it to the top NLUs with a lot of financial aid. I heard that NALSAR even set aside money to buy laptops for some of their students because not everyone fits into this ideal vision you seem to have. In India, most people don't even have access to a stable internet connection. I live in a posh-area of a Tier-1 city and am from a well-off family, but even I have not had consistent WiFi for a better part of the past month. The situation is much worse in Tier-2 cities. Rather than mouthing off, it seems you would benefit from being more aware of the present situation and not assuming everyone lives the life you are used to.
Amused 10 Jun 2020, 05:32
+16 -0
Since you've set up a really low standard of "even one student", allow me to burst your bubble: I have a friend whose village got electricity only a couple of years back. There are no computers. He used a feature phone till very recently and got a very basic smartphone very recently. Demanding that he write 3500-word essays on that phone, or that he research on that phone and write on paper which he then scans and sends in, is tone-deaf.

Nobody is pretending to be underprivileged. Quite frankly, it's a simple argument that's being made: not "even one student" should be left behind. But anyway, you wouldn't know this India if you treat government's statements as the absolute truth.
NALSAR Student 10 Jun 2020, 08:15
+22 -2
How blind do you have to be to the realities which exist in the country to make these statements?
There are multiple students which study on scholarships, whether provided by the institution itself or other external organisations. I have batchmates who come from villages who don't have computers/laptops, and managed to get one with a broken screen from a senior when they came to college. I have friends who didn't type on computers till they had to start making projects. I have friends who have 2 rooms among 4 siblings with no concept of privacy. I have friends who are only 2 people in the household - have to help with everyday tasks. I have friends whose parents are lawyers and judges - and can help in solving the question paper.
The realities of diversity will shock you my friend. Hiding under the garb of lack of privilege is wrong I agree, but is it actually happening here? No.
Are we saying that everyone doesn't have access? No. The point we're making is that access is varied, and that makes for an unequal playing field. Do we not play in that case altogether? The game has been taught (online classes and pen drive dispatch), it just hasn't been tested.
As Prof Dhanda mentioned, the ultimate goal was to impart learning (as opposed to what seems to be our competitors goal - to test learning).
And personally, my privilege allows me to stay at home when a virus is at large outside - the thought of going to a friends house sounds incredibly scary.

In a libertarian model where decisions are up to the individual, I believe not forcing them to write exams makes a lot of sense and it is ultimately up to the individual with what learning they're taking from this semester. What you call populism, we call fairness and choice.

It's time to unlearn and stop the brainwashing, obsession, and romanticism of "exams" and time to adopt real learning and perspective gathering rather than testing on paper through a question paper whether someone has "learnt" what was taught.

(Before any ad hominem attacks - I'm decently placed academically, not the backbencher lazy student :) )
FLOPsaar 10 Jun 2020, 11:46
+3 -14
"Decently placed" sounds like a top 20 student who is jealous of the Top 5. Of course people like that will prefer lack of exams.
Guest 10 Jun 2020, 13:19
+8 -0
@8.3.1 - Takes one to know one I guess! Did you do well for yourself in life? If you did, am I sure #8.3 will do too - with or without exams.
Guest 9 Jun 2020, 19:14
+3 -25
Those complaining of "elite" privilege probably have dads working in MNCs and ride fancy cars. Your VC may be gullible but don't try to fool the public.
Finally 9 Jun 2020, 20:32
+46 -8
Can this nagarbhavi messiah learn SOMETHING at least from NALSAR and NUJS? He is so insensitive cares nothing about us students. If any criticism is made, we are the scam ones, we are lazy. NO we are just hardworking students trying to survive during a PANDEMIC. If only he had a heart and some sensitivity. BUT no, he is the be all and end all about academic rigour. I REGRET COMING TO NLS. Wish I had a lower rank, might at least have had mental peace in NALSAR.
Kadwa baat 10 Jun 2020, 05:41
+2 -5
Lol. Please, you were the ones who wanted the 'nagarbhavi messiah'. Show some respect for the man, he's doing what no VC of Law School has ever done
Back-door 10 Jun 2020, 10:43
+4 -0
I like how this comment both glorifies and takes a dig at Shamirpet law college
Guest 9 Jun 2020, 21:02
+2 -16
I strongly suspect the anti-Sudhir comments are not by NLSIU students, or at least the majority. I suspect some commenters are from other NLUs posing as NLSIU students, or maybe certain lobbies in the faculty.
SherlockH 10 Jun 2020, 13:08
+3 -1
I suspect that you are very susceptible to suspicion.
Guest 56 10 Jun 2020, 21:23
+6 -1
Believe it or not, they are coming from NLS students because our VCs prefers to have a transparent mode of communication that he informs (*cough* [...]) Times of India first about the draft exam guidelines but circulates them to the student body 3 days after the published article. But we did get to know that a document titles "draft guidelines" exist from a national newspaper. Therefore, to communicate our concerns to the admin, students are also resorting to a public platform.
Guest 9 Jun 2020, 21:04
+2 -0
Why all the blame for Messiah? What about his Hand and others in the administration? Just "following orders" I guess. Not a big leap between disciple and discipline...the code words for sinister things that go into creating the "natural order of things"
pps rox nluj sux 9 Jun 2020, 21:25
+1 -1
Thank god for pps..nluj will have ccp project submissions (albeit six n 7.5k words each) before it reopens for the next sem in August so no pending exams for us
Onlooker 10 Jun 2020, 09:34
+1 -3
The rational and quicker decision taken by NLU-Jodhpur. The students who have access even to slow internet can send their answers. But, the time given to send projects is 'too much'.
NLU- Delhi is better as it gives 48 hours to send the answers. Probably, NUSRL, Ranchi also directs to submit within 72 days. NLS, B'luru has time limit of 8 hours. NLUs, e.g. NALSAR, GNLU, Gandhinagar which had already conducted mid-term exams. are better placed to shun any examination as, at least, one examination was held in 'this' semester.
Many students do not have computers at their homes, why they should not be allowed to write answers by hand and then, get it scanned and mail back to the college.
Guest 9 Jun 2020, 22:31
+3 -21
The comments here are proof that CLAT has become too easy and is failing to select the best students. Sudhir is the only NLU VC who is an NLU grad and also has international experience. He is striving to lift NLSIU to global standards and make students work hard. Yet, students are praising mediocre VCs because they are willing to lower standards. It is time to change CLAT to a format involving difficult logical reasoning and comprehension questions, as well as tough calculus and trigonometry problems.
Mediocre VC 10 Jun 2020, 05:54
+17 -0
"Mediocre VCs... lowing standards"? You simply don't get it, do you? Living in a bubble, unconcerned with the realities of access (and the actual lack thereof for a sizeable populace of NLU students). Is this really the "socially conscious" legal education NLS has imparted to you (assuming you are from NLS, else ignore)? A refresher course would be in order for you, friend.
Lol 10 Jun 2020, 06:31
+4 -0
Really? The dude says calculus and trigonometry and this is what you pick on?
Guest 56 10 Jun 2020, 21:25
+6 -1
Probably introduce a standard to measure human empathy as well in the exam. Because just academic rigour is not going to get people through in life
Guest 10 Jun 2020, 00:08
+3 -1
Meanwhile DNLU, Jabalpur vc Balraj Chauhan has notified that exams will be conducted once the University opens. He's totally indifferent to what Students want.
https 10 Jun 2020, 04:30
+3 -3
GNLU implemented this a while ago Kian, why was it not reported?
longy 10 Jun 2020, 09:11
+5 -1
Probably, because no one really cares about GNLU.

On a more serious note, such information has to be communicated to LI by an authentic source, preferably the law school administration itself. It's probably why the other NLUs aren't getting much mention, because their administration/student bodies are sending information to LI to get it published.

NLS (and Nalsar and NUJS - the usual tag-alongs) have all been on some publicity blitzkrieg for the past few months, giving us minute-to-minute details on how they're wonderfully coping with the pandemic (even though the publication of such information is largely useless for both insiders and outsiders). It doesn't affect anyone outside and those insiders (i.e. law school students) who have been affected, can't do anything about it anyway.
shorty 10 Jun 2020, 11:44
+7 -5
I don't think NLS actively courts LI. If you see the reporting, there's never a comment from the admin. It's probably students leaking to Kian. On the other hand, NALSAR VC actively seeks journalists out for promotion.
longy 10 Jun 2020, 12:36
+10 -0
You're telling me that the whole 6-8 hours exam story was a complaint in the form of a story by the students and not an advert by the NLS admin to show their rigorous academic standards?
shorty 10 Jun 2020, 16:13
+2 -2
I'm 100% sure Kian got this scoop from students. No way the VC or the Registrar did.
Guest 10 Jun 2020, 16:57
+6 -0
Students angry with the VC/Admin's actions decided to get a story published providing the latter's side of the story.

Sounds about right. Atleast to the level a Sudhir-bhakt's logic works.
Logical View 10 Jun 2020, 19:23
+3 -4
Please read the story on NLS Online exams. It does not include any statement/quotation from the Vice-Chancellor, Registrar or any other faculty members. The details about the format of the online exams were known to students in advance. In fact, a document detailing the same was circulated among them. Their main objection was that they wanted longer time-periods (12-24 hours) for the end-term exams. Even the comments on that story suggest that this is the main cause of resentment. The story explicitly says that LI reached out to Sudhir Krishnaswamy for a quote. It only cites a previous comment made by him in a webinar organised by JGLS. So it is a long stretch to assume that he deliberately planted the story. It could have been easily written on the basis of inputs from students. In comparison, the coverage about NALSAR is backed up with statements made by Faizan Mustafa and Amita Dhanda. It also appears that they cashed in on this opportunity to portray that they adopted a more sympathetic approach in comparison to NLSIU.
Guest 10 Jun 2020, 13:21
+0 -1
Yup. Hit the nail on the head. Being the lone voice of legal academia (out of NLUs) to speak against the state action and judicial inaction in a country with rising anti-minority feelings is surely 'actively seek(ing) journalists out for promotion'.
Guest 10 Jun 2020, 06:42
+12 -3
I agree with a commentator here that Messiah runs NLS with the help of others in administration. What about the cool Registrar who is also an alum? Just following orders? Power and ambition blinds everyone. How the cautions on Messiah were ignored.
Guest 10 Jun 2020, 10:58
+1 -0
Balraj is untouchable. Despite a stinging indictment from Allahabad HC concerning suicide by a student at NLU Lucknow (he was the VC then) and his poor record, this man [...] to become VC of another NLU and is the CLAT convener this year. Now he is part of a MHA panel on reform of criminal laws led by his dear friend RS.

Surely you can connect the dots.
Corona 10 Jun 2020, 11:19
+3 -1
What is the relevance of dragging Balraj Chauhan and his 'supposedly' best friend RS here in this trail,... just to defame TLC faculty? Did RS not raise the bar of NALSAR and NLU- D? Only because one is from TLC background doesn't make him pariah. RS has been on the scene for the last two decades proving himself as a good manager.
Guest 10 Jun 2020, 12:00
+0 -0
Didn't he pretty much build NLIU back in the day? Went to another NLU around the second half of the noughties, Balraj was always well respected among Bhopal people back then. Or so I got the mistaken (?) impression. Anyone from that time?
nlujstudent 10 Jun 2020, 11:11
+3 -0
Meanwhile, despite the Bar Council notification, NLUJ is expecting students to submit 5000-7500 word projects in all six subjects in the space of a month, where many have internship commitments; and completely ignoring the hardship people will face with this. Thesis length projects are being demanded, and no marking scheme has been provided. Students have been instructed that they are not allowed to consult faculty for clarifications and guidance either.
nlujstudent 10 Jun 2020, 11:15
+3 -0
This, coming when it already conducted four internal assessments, as well as midterm examinations and already have enough scores to mark students on. It's a clear dereliction of the duty to care about students mental health and the very real fact of unequal access to resources.
Guest 10 Jun 2020, 14:07
+2 -3
It seems LI censored my comment, but I can paste links to TikTok/Facebook videos of students of a certain NLU doing a "Corona dance" to celebrate class cancellation. So I am very sceptical about the sudden mental health concerns.
Guest 10 Jun 2020, 15:23
+1 -0
So, guilt by association?
Read Guest 10 Jun 2020, 16:15
+2 -11
Sadly, this crisis is exposing the real gulf between NLSIU's standards and seriousness and the rest of the NLUs. Even Allahabad University cancelled exams. NALSAR and NUJS should introspect which of the 2 they'd rather be in the same boat as.
Guest 10 Jun 2020, 16:55
+7 -0
Bar exams cancelled in the USA. Surely by your logic, NALSAR and NUJS students (and also ones from Allahabad University) are in par with those graduating from American schools this summer. While '(approx. 20th odd) Harvard of the East' misses out!

Grow up. Please.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/04/08/law-schools-and-coronavirus-bar-exemptions-and-more
newGuest 11 Jun 2020, 06:08
+1 -1
This is why Harvard will soon be aspiring to be "the NLS of the West".
Which Boat? 10 Jun 2020, 16:55
+5 -0
And sadly, this comment exposes a very real ignorance towards ensuring everyone has an equal opportunity to do well, especially when the lack of a level playing field has only been exacerbated by the pandemic.

Kindly introspect. NLS' constant virtue-signalling in the name of 'seriousness in academics' belies a serious problem. Of toxicity. Introspection on your end wouldn't be uncalled for; rethink.
nothing new 11 Jun 2020, 06:07
+3 -3
This has always been the case - "trimester system", "getting in to NLS is easier than getting out" etc. Law School fetishes brutalisation of spirit, the number of year losses is almost some sick mark of pride. Sad to see Sudhir bringing that back after a few years of respite under Venkata Rao.
Guest 10 Jun 2020, 16:45
+3 -5
IIT Students Chant "Jai Corona" As College Shuts Amid Coronavirus Scare

https://www.ndtv.com/delhi-news/coronavirus-outbreak-iit-students-chant-jai-corona-as-college-shuts-amid-virus-scare-2195024

This is the reality of those crying "access" .
Guest 10 Jun 2020, 17:53
+9 -1
So? Just because some were happy at their institution shutting down, does it mean that 4g will miraculously appear in their city/town/village? And will they now have money to buy enough online hours to sit through classes? And will their parents finally be able to afford a separate room for them to sit and listen to those lectures/write those exams? And will the students responsibilities towards older members of family or younger siblings be suddenly fulfilled by you?

You sir are an idiot who write long before he can start thinking. Acha hua aap NLS uss time mein gaye jab exam 5000 lok hi likhte the. I doubt you would have cleared CLAT today.
GenX 10 Jun 2020, 18:53
+1 -2
The GenX, which includes your V.C. Sudhir too, joined NLS when less than 10000 candidates appeared. And you think likes of Sudhir would not be able to clear the CLAT 2020. Did you think at least once before calling GenX as 'idiots'?
Guest 10 Jun 2020, 16:47
+0 -0
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gamQsl0AjUE[/youtube]
Sudream Leader 10 Jun 2020, 17:59
+3 -0
Meanwhile, at NLSIU! Sudhir is extremely insensitive and merely focussed on his PR. He is extremely oblivious of the differential in privilege.

[img]https://www.legallyindia.com/images/uploads/20200612-161537.jpg[/img]

[img]https://www.legallyindia.com/images/uploads/20200612-161815.jpg[/img]

So if anyone tells you that we are not real NLS student, he is lying.

If anyone tells you that Sudhir cares, he is lying.

We are resorting to this, because it has become intolerable. We have tried our best to reach him but he is busy giving interviews to media houses explaining Facebook Oversight Board. He is the worst.

We should have realised this when he invited our SBA leaders last year to an Idly party at MG Road and asked them to protest. Kian sir, I know you are going to be apprehensive of publishing this. Try contacting either Sudhir or [...] and get them to deny this officially on record. Yes, the NLS protest was a setup - [...] and we were constantly inspired into action by [...] sir.

I am coming out now because all of this is too much. I cannot tolerate what my friends are going though at this point. It is extremely insensitive. There are real issues that people are facing.

I'm telling you again, [...] and most of the time he is focussed on doing PR.

We have been constantly asking him questions over email but now he has blocked email access. Censorship at his best. We are regretting being set up to protest. I am going to put more evidence on this forum in due time. Just get ready for the expose of the Messiah. I know this wont change anything. But atleast for the people, who are supporting him and making us seem like entitled kids, this should serve as an eye opener. More from me when my exam ends tomorrow.

[Ed: Moderated and redacted for names]
Ugh privileged kids 10 Jun 2020, 20:58
+2 -1
Stop taking about NLS. It is not the only NLU!
Well 11 Jun 2020, 16:08
+1 -3
hattrick of NIRF rank 1. Definitely worth talking about.