NLS Bangalore students mourn 2nd student suicide in just over two years • SBA works on mental health asssistance

Oldest NLU shocked by student suicide
Oldest NLU shocked by student suicide

A third-year student at NLSIU Bangalore, Kanishk Bharti, has taken his own life over the weekend, making this the second suicide at India’s oldest national law school a little over two years.

A student bar association (SBA) representative commented today: “The entire student body is deeply saddened by his untimely demise. To have one of our 500-odd family leave us in this manner is unimaginably distressing.

“Our prayers and condolences are with the friends and family who are coping with the tragic loss.”

A condolence meeting was taking place at college earlier today.

In November 2016, another third year student at NLSIU Bangalore had reportedly committed suicide. She had been suffering from a long and painful illness.

India has the unfortunate distinction of one of the highest suicide rates in the world, especially amongst students and young people, for whom suicide is the most common cause of death.

Law schools have not been immune. In 2018, a student had killed themselves at NLU Jabalpur, NLU Delhi saw a suicide attempt. In 2016, one Amity Law School Delhi student had committee suicide.

NUJS Kolkata saw a suicide in 2012 purportedly over exam pressures, resulting in the hiring of a psychotherapist on campus.

The 2009 judicial review of NLSIU, had also raised suicides as an issue, albeit in a rather preachy way: “The young minds, in the absence of beneficent control and interactive relationship with the teachers, have become an easy prey to all sorts of evil practices of smoking, drinking, drug abuse, sex, etc., resulting into terrible stress, dreadful depression, at least two cases of suicides and a dozen of attempted suicides, and even a murder!”

It may be easy to blame the high-pressure and highly-competitive environment at elite residential law universities and a lack of adequate social and institutional support, but the problems and causes are likely to be more complex.

The NLS SBA representative said today: “We are working on the mental health facilities on campus for students to seek help in coping with stress and sadness that could be debilitating.”

Outgoing vice chancellor (VC) Venkata Rao has not responded to several of our requests for comment or a statement.

If you or someone you know needs help, please consider contacting any of a number of Indian NGOs dealing with suicide prevention listed here.

Photo by Smuconlaw.

Comments

Guest 19 Mar 2019, 07:23
+25 -4
NLUs can be pretty horrible places and lead to depression. Lots of competitive selfish students who never help others. Regional chauvinism. Sanskari admins who carry out moral policing and ban having a fun night out. Teachers from planet Mars with a different cultural mindset who you cannot relate to and confide in. Skewed male ratio with limited opportunities to make girlfriends. Always pressure to get a good CGPA, even though profs cannot teach properly.
Guest 19 Mar 2019, 07:44
+38 -7
You missed out on culture of current crop of students to blame everyone else for their problems, often rightly, but refusing to take responsibility for their own actions.
What? 19 Mar 2019, 08:50
+12 -5
Skewed male ratio? Dude it is not an engineering college..
Guest 19 Mar 2019, 09:44
+18 -4
Oddly enough, women are disproportionately fewer in law colleges as well. Especially traditional law colleges. There is a 30% women's quota in Maharashtra law CET for women. In engineering on the other hand, the ratio is actually improving.

That said, a poor sex ratio can hardly be cited as a reason for suicide. By that logic, women in ladies' colleges should be dropping dead like flies. And the rules there are generally more stifling as well.

The very fact that the student's body was found in a decomposed state (as reported in ToI) attests to the fact that he wasn't missed by his peers. It paints a story of tragic loneliness.

Perhaps NLS will benefit from some diversity, foundational training for those who don't "fit in", and sensitisation of other students (and staff).
Query 19 Mar 2019, 08:14
+7 -3
And the wheel keeps getting reinvented. At NUJS, the tokenistic attempt of getting a counsellor has flopped. She gets paid to do nothing. Actually her recruitment itself was facilitated by her friend, a faculty member under inquiry. This faculty has been a source a severe mental harassment to quite a few students, which almost jeopardised their careers.

I will stop here and ask a few questions, which the SBA can consider lest they wish to avoid NUJS mistakes.

1. What about the faculty, starting right from the VC; and the admin staff as well? Why will they not undergo periodic psychological evaluation and counselling? After all we know domestic troubles, money issues etc can have unhinging effects and students suffer as collateral.

2. Why are counsellors, the shrink who simply gets paid to fulfill the checklist - the univ did something? Is this person empowered to speak truth to power? After all NLU administrations are structured and peopled to preserve status quo and anyone who is not formally trained in law (and often the institutional affiliation becomes unduly important) is seen as a cretin by law school administrators

3. If a thorough review is done we are likely to find that NLUs despite all the branding exemplify: those who can't. teach. If we have such frustrated souls (maybe 7th CPC will finally give them a quantum of solace) to start with, and then their own unresolved love/sex lives, domestic troubles, money stuff etc - we have a recipe for disaster

4. Sure NLU administrations should be student-centric. But why only have students under scrutiny? Will not be a bad idea to have all the students under periodic psychological evaluation. But what if the troubles run deeper - unresolved or touchy parental, family etc issues? How do we go there and how do we avoid the weaponizing of those issues by NLUs to arm twist. Eg, at NUJS, the Registrar (and her supporters) has a penchant for trying to humiliate and shame the parents for the perceived wrongs of the students; moral policing etc. HNLU and RGNUL VCs promoted this as an institutional culture. Most other NLUs are no different

5. Will the NLUs treat the counsellors with respect? I have often heard the NUJS shrink grumble that the admin couldn't care less and she is just an avoidable expense. Also she has little clue on how NUJS works. But the point is that if a qualified and experienced counsellor were to suggest meaningful, including unconventional steps that an NLU were to take at a structural level, will the administration give those a serious thought?

6. It is an uphill task and it starts with a transformative change in institutional culture, which irrespective of the NLU, is built on arrogance, greed, pettiness, opacity, obfuscation, contempt and a primal fear of change that students represent. Unfortunately, the governing bodies are also full of such rotten apples.
A thought 19 Mar 2019, 08:49
+75 -1
Law school is a strange place. While I was there it was so easy to drown yourself in thoughts about grades, placements, and how people perceived you. There were so many things going on in the world, but I was just engulfed in this bubble with a few hundred people who became too familiar.

With every passing year between law school and now, it becomes more apparent to me that very little of that experience matters now.

If you are a law student and you are reading this, that is all I really want to tell you. Law school is a small blip in what will be a long and interesting life. Everyone has their own story and their unique path. There are ups and downs, and if you feel like the downs are constant, there is no harm in getting help. There is plenty of it available if you are willing to ask for it.
Wow! 19 Mar 2019, 10:04
+9 -2
The person at no 3 - brilliant thought and a beautiful presentation. Read something positive (without being sarcastic to anyone) on LI after a long time.

Shows wisdom. Good job.
Guest 19 Mar 2019, 12:12
+12 -3
Good post, but you see, this is why you need a liberal admin and inspiring professors. They can shape your minds to think beyond grades. This is the reason why MIT produces inventors and IIT produces corporate slaves, why Harvard and Yale produce such a diverse set of students while NLU-ites are obsessed about joining corporate law firms
NLS Alum 20 Mar 2019, 11:35
+17 -0
This post is spot on.

Looking back, a lot of things that caused so much politics and heartburn, and seemed like a matter of life and death are trivial and quite unnecessary. SBA elections, committee spots, moot offerings, hostel committees politics, intra-batch rivalry over nonsensical issues. None of these things are worth losing sleep, friendship or a healthy lifestyle.

The excessive focus on CV building and "success" did come at a high cost. The cost of creating meaningful friendships (since either the culture was too cut throat or simply because it gave people no time for it) and also by preventing some real learning and falling in love with the law.

A word of advice - no one cares about your law school CV, even one year into the profession. Five debate wins? Doesn't matter. SDGM convenor? No one cares. The only things that remain - 1. what you learn and 2. your friendships - both of which are highly compatible with good mental health, IMHO. Go back to the basics, law schoolites!
Kaash 31 Mar 2019, 11:41
+2 -1
Looking back I wish I had just spent more time out of law school.

Spent more time travelling India instead of trying to do internships to pad my CV.

Seconding 3.2.1 - only mention of law school on my CV after all these years is the fact that I went there.

I never needed a Gold Star from CGPA obsessed Pillai to tell me I am good at Corporate. Seriously guys, try to enjoy your time there.
Not really 31 Mar 2019, 11:37
+4 -0
I don't think that comparison is fair.

Students end up in law school in India at a much younger age compared to their American counterparts with far less clarity as to who they are and what they want out of life. Most of them will naturally gravitate towards what is considered the most popular option. This is not specific to law, but any profession in any university. Money talks.
Chamcha 19 Mar 2019, 08:58
+9 -18
If one can't take the pressure in a law school with an ever sympathetic Prof Venkat Rao as VC, then may be there were problems other than related to the institution.
Guest 20 Mar 2019, 15:53
+1 -4
Downvoted by mistake
Well wisher of nlu 19 Mar 2019, 14:22
+6 -0
The reasons are not as much complicated as made sometimes. Here student was unable to fare well in exam, so this is one reason ( SENSE OF LOSING SELF WORTH).With newfound freedom many students derail themselves from reality and experiment with all sort of things and feel empty inside, disoriented and finally unable to get out from depression. They show signs of withdrawal form surroundings, uninterested, compulsive obsessed with unpleasant event.At this point concept of buddy pair is important, who will notice signs of depression and report further for expert advice. Academic pressure will remain but nlu can do a lot in reducing it and in making a holistic approach of learning .
Omae wa Mou shindeiru 19 Mar 2019, 21:42
+3 -20
If you cannot handle law school perhaps you should go somewhere else. For too long people have gone weak and expect handouts. College is a way to build your career, not for joy not for experience. Punch in the numbers and get the grades. You are a number is the system easily replaceable and irrelevant.

If this is difficult to digest I am sorry that such a high pressure career is not meant for you.
SpiritualMaster 20 Mar 2019, 13:08
+4 -3
"College is a way to build your career, not for joy not for experience."
Such drab statement without any life can only come from an over stressed professional who will build his career, sadly ,without experiencing life and joy ever.
Guest 20 Mar 2019, 07:08
+20 -1
Legally India feeds in to these pressures by hyping law firm jobs and salaries, and encouraging students to be a part of the rat race. How many times have we seen LI profile people in less-paying jobs that are otherwise very fulfilling? There are wonderful things NLU grads are doing in UPSC, NGOs, entrepreneurship, academics etc, but for Kian only law firm-ites are rockstars. LI will just hype CAM and SAM and mention which NLU got max offers and highest salaries (a practice that even IIMs have now stopped). In comparison Bar & Bench and Superlawyer profile more diverse people.
Old Student 20 Mar 2019, 08:07
+14 -0
Introspection is needed from both the college authorities and the student body. The college needs to have some kind of process to figure out in the first year who are the weaker students and give them support from the beginning, so that they have a fair chance of doing well. There will always be people who are not very comfortable with English, or get psyched out with the pace of continuous evaluation through projects and exams, etc. Over time they do suffer from lack of self esteem and pangs of doubt about themselves, as they see themselves falling behind, not to mention dealing with expectations from home to perform well in the college for which parents are paying through the nose. They have to be helped to deal with the intensity of the academic pressure.

As far as students are concerned, the most appalling part is that no one missed him for that length of time. This just means he probably had no friends and maybe was rooming alone??? Not to mention he probably had no one to speak to and unburden himself. There is a bad overall tendency to ignore certain people in the class/hostel (both boys and girls), who may not be cool or good looking or come from a semi urban/rural background and can't relate to the people around them so easily. This just adds to their frustration and makes them more and more lonely despite being surrounded by people in that small campus. Not to mention that young kids in college tend to be cruel and make fun of such outcasts and push them further into their shell. Having a friend or two to support you when you are down can make all the difference in such cases.
Guest 20 Mar 2019, 16:10
+6 -0
Kian, there have been some good comments on this thread. I think you need to reflect on your coverage of careers and salaries. You are creating an unhealthy CGPA obsession, as these firms only look at CGPA.
Guests 21 Mar 2019, 14:42
+0 -0
https://ahmedabadmirror.indiatimes.com/ahmedabad/education/gnlu-registrar-removed-from-post/amp_articleshow/68504741.cms
Guest 24 Mar 2019, 06:57
+1 -2
Amita Dhanda will be the next VC.
NLU Jodhpur Rep 7 Apr 2019, 09:11
+1 -1
Kian,

Kindly edit your post to remove the fact of death of NLU Jodhpur student Vikrant Nagaich from this article on suicide and also delete the original article calling his death a suicide. It is incorrect and you know it. Jst less than a month ago, the High Court passed an order probing into his murder, as the same has been officially concluded by the CBI, police and High Court.


https://barandbench.com/rajasthan-hc-status-report-death-nlu-jodhpur-student/

This is highly irresponsible journalism and we have messaged you multiple times over this. You did not even get the name of the deceased student right. It’s Vikrant Nagaich and not Vikram Nagech, and he was murdered.
kianganz 7 Apr 2019, 09:18
+0 -2
Thanks for sharing - I had missed your earlier message, I think. Will make some edits and add a note to the original report, which was based on the Times of India report into the incident.