NLS grad Sudhir Krishnaswamy to be NLS VC (subject to final CJI sign off)

Prof Sudhir K nearly cert to be next NLS VC now
Prof Sudhir K nearly cert to be next NLS VC now

Azim Premji University professor, Prof Sudhir Krishnaswamy, is overwhelmingly likely to be the next vice chancellor (VC) of NLSIU Bangalore (and the first alumni to take charge at their own alma mater national law school).

The committee tasked with re-interviewing the three short-listed candidates for the position, has in its meeting on 23 July recommended Krishnaswamy’s name as VC, and circulated its decision to the NLSIU executive council (EC) (see full minutes below).

It is understood that the EC had in its previous meeting decided it would accept whatever recommendation the committee would circulate, with his appointment now only being subject to sign off by the Chief Justice of India (CJI), as chancellor of NLSIU.

Krishnaswamy is a 1998 NLSIU graduate, who also holds a BCL and Doctor of Philosophy from Oxford University.

Last month the EC had decided to delay the decision to pick a VC, despite the search committee having made a clear recommendation.

Contrary to rumours that the search would restart from scratch, however, the committee talked to the three candidates again later in July and has now reiterated its recommendation.

Besides Krishnaswamy, the three finalists in the VC race were SLS Pune director Prof Sashikala Gurpur and NLU Odisha VC Prof Srikrishna Deva Rao.

While it is theoretically possible, it is highly unlikely that the CJI will delay the VC appointment process further, which had begun in February 2019.

Since 1 August, professor of environmental law, Dr MK Ramesh took over as interim VC of NLSIU after Prof R Venkat Rao’s term formally ended on 31 July 2019.

The committee recommends, signalling end of drawn-out VC selection process
The committee recommends, signalling end of drawn-out VC selection process

Comments

NLIU Bhopal 4 Aug 2019, 11:26
+12 -12
Just like NLUs took over the Law Firms and is slowly taking over the bar. There will be a day when NLU Kids will take over the academia from archaic traditional law university graduates. The islands of excellence dream can probably then be a reality. Hope to see someone from NLIU Bhopal becoming a VC in the future.
Guest 13 Aug 2019, 17:54
+2 -1
Umm, NLU kids taking over the Bar? Really now?
asterix 4 Aug 2019, 11:36
+14 -0
good luck sudheer be fair and good
Guest 4 Aug 2019, 12:00
+4 -5
Or else the sky would surely fall down on your head?
BhopaliCharra 4 Aug 2019, 11:44
+3 -12
NLIU Bhopal being the second oldest law school will definitely make a splash in this sector very soon...
NLIU Bhopal 4 Aug 2019, 11:57
+1 -4
Any names in mind?
Guest 4 Aug 2019, 12:20
+5 -4
Which NLIU alumnus is a senior academic in India or abroad?
Second Oldest Really? 4 Aug 2019, 15:23
+8 -8
NALSAR sunna hai ?
@Second oldest really? 5 Aug 2019, 22:50
+4 -0
Bhai @Second oldest really? nalsar tune suna hai..sabne suna hai..par Jara act dekh le kab kisska pehle bana hai Bhopal ka nalsar ka..
Nliu act 1997 me bana tha jisne Bhopal establish Kiya tha

Nalsar act 1998 me bana tha..uski act dekh Lena...bas sunna jaruri nahi..seeing is believing....
Fact check 6 Aug 2019, 13:48
+1 -0
The Act being older does not make it the older NLU (effectively at least, I suppose). Both of them started courses in the same academic year. For reference, CLAT was conducted by universities in order of seniority and NALSAR went second.
Guest 4 Aug 2019, 11:48
+31 -6
NLSIU students are going to get a jolt for the better soon enough. Which would be good to shake them from the stupor of complacency. Law school students in general have gotten way too used to compromised standards and admin freebies. Only young and dynamic people with foresight in charge can change that.
NLS 2024 4 Aug 2019, 11:58
+5 -4
Look forward to your guidance for next five years, sir!
Rajneesh Deka 4 Aug 2019, 12:20
+11 -20
[comment deleted, due to someone impersonating the above]
Guest 4 Aug 2019, 13:27
+22 -2
Yes, because the current 'everything goes in the name of flexibility and freedom' is producing so many unparallel gems every year! Some strictness and academic discipline can do entitled students a whole lot of good everywhere, not only at NLSIU.
Alumnus 6 Aug 2019, 07:04
+5 -0
Having studied two courses (one compulsory and another seminar course), I can safely say his mindset is anything but draconian. He did expect us to come prepared for classes and tried to introduce marks for participating in class rather than for just being physically present. If that's being strict and authoritative, it's high time we had someone as strict and authoritative, as our V-C.
The Real Rajneesh Deka 12 Aug 2019, 09:46
+2 -0
This is not my comment and someone has impersonated me and tried to vent their own feelings. I have nothing but the best wishes for Mr. Krishnaswamy. Whoever was the idiot who tried to do this should care to grow a spine and post with their own name.
The Real Rajneesh Deka 12 Aug 2019, 10:20
+2 -0
And for the great "Guest" and "Alumnus" who posted without their names. My suggestion would be, please post with your (real) name so that the world knows that you stand by what you say. More importantly, apply your mind when you are engaging on social media or atleast do some basic Due D to ensure that you are not contributing to brainless controversy. Unless, one of you started the controversy. If nothing, I can atleast call you to say that I am not the cause for your anguish! Have a great day!! :)
Guest 12 Aug 2019, 13:13
+1 -0
Dude, the entire LI comments section consists of nothing but brainless controversy! Everyone knows that by now.
NLSIU Student 4 Aug 2019, 12:29
+2 -0
Any guesses on when he will take the charge?
NLSIU student 6 Aug 2019, 10:11
+0 -0
Can someone please reply to me?
Erroneous Reporting 6 Aug 2019, 12:18
+0 -0
Dear NLSIU student,
It might take a few more weeks before Sudhir Krishnaswamy joins office. At the moment, the EC resolution recommending his name as the next NLSIU Vice-Chancellor (dated August 2, 2019 - partially extracted in the main story here) has been circulated to all the members. Once all the EC members acknowledge the receipt of this document, the Registrar (Prof. O.V. Nandimath) has to inform the Chief Justice of India (CJI). After this, the CJI's office has to send a written instruction to the Registrar clearing the recommended name. The appointment order can then be issued by the Registrar. Hopefully these procedural formalities will be completed within the month of August so that Sudhir Krishnaswamy can join by the start of September.
Observer 4 Aug 2019, 13:56
+7 -1
Sudhir may in an academic par excellence, but only time will tell his ability as an institution builder. Let's not forget Prof. Jayagovind, an excellent academic with his heart in the right place, failed as the V-C.
NLS, at this crucial juncture, needed a person with a strong character like Prof. Menon more than someone with academic credentials.
All the best to Sudhir. May the force be with him.
Guest 4 Aug 2019, 14:27
+7 -4
Good fortune of NLS to have Sudhir as VC. Have been taught by Sudhir and know that he is a terrific teacher and a leader.
Practically 4 Aug 2019, 14:58
+16 -2
Would it not be hard for the same professors who taught him once upon a time to report to him now? There also seems to be at least 1 alumni from a senior batch who is also teaching at NLS. Young VCs would always face this problem, but perhaps it will be more pronounced in his case.
Live the truth 4 Aug 2019, 15:58
+28 -2
Sarasu is senior. Rahul Singh, Kunal are junior. But Sarasu is less likely to have an ego about this. The non-Law School faculty on the other hand... Chintu (shortest VC ever) and Shortsgate Nagaraj would certain feel jilted, they were the ones with VC ambitions. Ramakrishna seems above this, and Nandimath will certainly not upset his chair as Registrar. If that means playing ball with the new VC, he will. Hegde's reaction would be interesting as well. But you will see that I left one name out of this, for that would be the true sight to see.

The other question to be asked is, what will happen to the new faculty, the ad hocs, etc? And will Siddharth Chauhan make a grand return to Nags? Because he was at the forefront of this Sudhir-for-VC campaign in the alumni circle
SidCTruther 4 Aug 2019, 16:45
+5 -2
I strongly feel SidC will return to the Nags. He has not only vehmently supported Sudhir K, he has also been in contact with the current SBA and helped them through protests against fee hikes etc. My personal differences aside, I feel that NLS will gain with him as one of the professors especially when current state of faculty in NLS is such a shame.

@Chauhan, I am sure you are following this post closely. Can you please tell us if you intend to come to NLS, if given a chance? If your current academic commitments does not allow you to teach at your alma mater, consider offering an elective in the second or the third trimester in which case you can manage your time between NLS and NALSAR.

I am not sure whether after how NLS as an institution treated you whether NLS deserves you, but I am sure NLS needs you. But then, so much does NALSAR.
SidCTruther 6 Aug 2019, 10:09
+0 -1
Kian, why was my second comment not published?
Guest 4 Aug 2019, 16:33
+7 -4
This is a MASSIVE game changer. The gap between NLSIU and other NLUs (which was becoming close) will now steeply increase Not a single other VC has his educational qualifications, research record, international experience and social skills. Expect the following to happen now:

1. MoU between NLSIU and Oxford/Columbia.
2.Stress on quality publications and research.
3. Lots of alumni as guest faculty, some as council members.
4. Eventually a place in the world rankings.

Others NLUs will now become insecure, but the positive thing to do is also demand alumni as VC. NUJS and GNLU have squandered their opportunity, while NALSAR is stuck with FM till some time. However, is NLUD is up next and can cite Sudhir's precedent to appoint Mrinal.
Haha 5 Aug 2019, 04:31
+4 -1
All under the assumption that being from an NLU automatically makes a candidate better than others? As an old school NLU alum I have seen my lot and I wouldn't trust some of them to run an omelette stand. You can't run a university on research cred alone. Sudhir's a great chap but whether he can run a whole university is to be seen. People who've been taught by him tell a story of a great scholar but strict administrator.
Guest 4 Aug 2019, 16:37
+6 -2
We need to stop giving preference to seniority. JGLS VC Rajkumar and Sudhir received the Rhodes scholarship the same year, but Rajkumar was appointed JGLS VC 10 years ago. If anything, Sudhir's appointment is overdue.
Guest 4 Aug 2019, 16:38
+13 -4
Next up: Mrinal Satish NLUD VC. Both NLSIU and NLUD are moving on to another league now. Other NLUs watch out!
Guest 4 Aug 2019, 16:41
+7 -4
Why is comment 1 downvoted? All NLUs must eventually be taken over by alumni, from NLSIU right down to NLU Assam, Ranchi and Jabalpur. Do you want the village idiots currently in charge to continue? 90% of them misuse funds, indulge in moral policing, have never published a decent paper, and cannot speak a word on English.
Guest 4 Aug 2019, 16:45
+12 -2
NALSAR, NUJS and NLUD right now....

[img]https://tifca.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Yeah-im-jealous-meme-36317.jpg[/img]
Guest 4 Aug 2019, 16:48
+0 -0
Kian, please update on domicile quota issue!!!
Guest 4 Aug 2019, 16:49
+3 -0
Sudhir will now lobby for Institution of National importance status, joint degree with Oxford and death to Karnataka reservation bill.
Guest 4 Aug 2019, 16:50
+20 -2
Tight slap for a certain prof who tried to scuttle his appointment and posted BS on Facebook.
Guest 4 Aug 2019, 16:53
+1 -5
Now NLSIU will truly become the Harvard of the East.
Bhai 5 Aug 2019, 01:49
+8 -0
Wasn't KIIT Law School that?
Guest 4 Aug 2019, 16:56
+1 -0
Sudhir is already in talks with alumni!
Guest 4 Aug 2019, 16:56
+23 -1
LMAO at the prof who posted on Facebook praising Chintu and saying NLSIU is faculty run no student run!!
Guest 4 Aug 2019, 16:58
+18 -0
The person to thank is MP Singh. He bypassed UGC rules and appointed Sudhir and Shamnad as professor 10 years ahead of time, then set an age limit of below 60 in the VC ad.
Guest 4 Aug 2019, 17:01
+7 -2
Kian, please cover the scam of the Modi govt in openly rejecting National status for NLUs in Parliament but giving eminence status to JGLS. The Congress attacked the Eminence status to Jio, but is silent about Jindal as Naveen Jindal is a Congress MP.
Guest 4 Aug 2019, 17:12
+3 -0
Any chance of a Nalsar alum becoming VC of Nasar? Who has the best chance? Anup?
Guest 4 Aug 2019, 18:08
+1 -0
Anup isn't professor yet. Infact, other than Sudhir, only 3 other NLU grads are (were) profs at various NLUs - Shamnad, Sarasu, and Mrinal. The latter two do not meet the Prof+10 criteria (not for another 7/8 years), while Shamnad is too unwell to seriously overhaul any place.
Saddd 8 Aug 2019, 13:06
+1 -1
RIP Shamnad :(((
Guest 4 Aug 2019, 19:14
+8 -2
Sudhir's priority will be faculty recruitment. The legacy of Venkat Rao has been ad hoc appointments. That means except for the absolute old bunch, Sudhir has a lot of room to weed out non performers and fill the place with alum. Expect following people to return to NLS within one year (remember you heard it here first!!!) : Sid C, Mrinal Satish, Aparna Chandra, Arun Thiruvengadam. All have also taught at NLS before and are on good terms with Sudhir. If Nigam had not become Dean at BML, he would definitely have been regularized at NLS. I don't know Shamnad's equation with Sudhir but if it is halfway decent, expect him to join as well.
Angry Profs 4 Aug 2019, 21:02
+4 -1
Yep I think someone should develop such a game soon. Will be a hit. Any entrepreneurs in NLUs?

Anyway quite a few had pointed out that MP Singh gave out of turning promotions to Sudhir (as also Shamnad) at NUJS. Sudhir who was then a contractual Asst Prof at NLS was zoomed into Prof position at NUJS. It now appears that Prof Singh did quite a few out-of-turn stuff at NUJS. Some were even reversed by its EC. Some say he was trying to shake things for better. Others say that he was actually pursuing petty goals under the garb of being a maverick.

Whatever the truth, the NUJS records does pose questions to the elevated (possibly exaggerated) status of MP Singh. I am all for "breaking" arcane rules and for that Prof Singh should certainly be congratulated. But what if the rules are broken, bent and applied in a selective manner?

So, will the Angry Profs now litigate on how Sudhir became a Prof. Were the existing rules then (selectively) followed, which allowed Sudhir to steal a long march over Sarasu, Nandimath etc? Did the rules allow for an Asst Prof (contractual) to be directly elevated as Prof?

We may not like certain or many rules. Those rules could have ruled out such game changing appointments. But shouldn't the rules be changed first and not used in a manner which is patent with personal bias in favour of a certain person? Because a precedent for cherry picking can and will come back to bite us.

Also, I find it interesting that while Prof MP Singh and Supreme Court judges are being feted for staring down the VC mafia, no questions are being asked about how Prof Ishwara Bhat (previously) and now Prof NKC were appointed in NUJS. In both instances Prof MP Singh (and even Prof Menon before his untimely demise) lobbied intensely for Prof Bhat and NKC. Or how MP Singh was party to an atrocious, poorly drafted and moralistic URC Report on NLSIU. And where were these kindred souls when various NLUs including NUJS erupted in protests or when state encroachment was being facilitated by Justice Amit Talukdar and now by Prof NKC? What explains the differential treatment. Shouldn't it worry us why someone has suddenly gone so benevolent on us or may do it at NLUD too but maintain a curious silence elsewhere?

Can we expect the SC judges (at least those occupying EC positions in NLUs) to become more active in NLU governance? Despite various protests by students and administrative changes in NLUs, significant change has been elusive.

By the way someone must be drawing some cold comfort for having lost out the Registrar position previously.
Guest 5 Aug 2019, 00:17
+5 -0
Sudhir and Shamnad are on very bad terms. They had an ugly spat in public (see link below). Sudhir wrote in TOI accusing Shamnad of taking money from a foreign industry group and writing a dressed up report to suit them (this is when Shamnad used to be very pro-business, long time ago). Shamnad then slammed Sudhir and called him "desperate" on his Spicy IP blog. See this link.

https://spicyip.com/2007/03/mashelkar-committee-report-and-industry.html
Noojie 23 Aug 2019, 07:49
+0 -0
I remember this controversy. Shamnad was nicer to students. Sudhir expected everyone to adult overnight. Wonder if this will degenerate into some bootcamp bob v. sensitive snowflake narrative.
Guest 5 Aug 2019, 00:28
+5 -0
Sudhir was eyeing this post for a very, very long time. His ultimate ambition is an SC judgeship in the eminent persons quota in 15 years, for which the efforts will start now. He will probably start a big legal aid project at NLSIU with Columbia and build a visible media profile.
kbc 5 Aug 2019, 09:28
+1 -0
All these fights are only till such time as it suits them to make up because both parties have things to gain.
Guest 5 Aug 2019, 00:31
+6 -0
Expect NLUD students to draft a similar petition as the SBA and demand a VC with international credentials and research record...code for saying they want Mrinal.
NLUD Truth 8 Aug 2019, 08:04
+1 -1
Sadly, NLUD students are disenchanted with Mrinal at the moment.
Guest 8 Aug 2019, 09:43
+5 -0
Hopefully he is equally disenchanted with the students and decides to head back to NLS! Easily one of the best profs I had in law school.
NLUD Truth 8 Aug 2019, 15:05
+2 -1
He's at DJA, and would most likely complete his term. Aparna, I'm told, is also irritated with the student culture at NLUD and may leave soon. Big loss for NLUD, and a big gain for wherever they decide to go. Both are absolute gems. I just hope this doesn't start a trend of good teachers leaving; even as things stand, many good teachers (Anup, Yogesh, Dany, Aparna) have stopped teaching and are focusing on their own research.
NLUD Lie 9 Aug 2019, 21:06
+3 -2
People make up all sorts of lies to bad mouth an institution that is doing well. Mrinal Satish has gone on deputation and will be back once it is over. Aparna is on official leave for some personal reasons and even despite that she is continuing with all her research assignments at her centre. Dany is going to the Supreme Court to work for the CJI which is a very prestigious assignment and he will be back once that is over. Yogehs Pai is finishing his PhD and that is why he hasn't been around too much. Chinmayi has gone abroad on a fellowship and is fully expected to return. And Anup is very much teaching his legal methods course. He doesn't teach anything else because of all his duties at Project 39A. So there is no crisis- no good teachers leaving, nothing. It is just a coincidence that for various reasons a lot of people are not around.
Follow up 10 Aug 2019, 08:59
+2 -0
No one apart from the individuals themselves know the entire truth but based on what's heard in NLU corridors:

1. Aparna is on leave and will probably keep extending it for a while, she's supposed to be going to Ashoka soon
2. Mrinal is at DJA and will join whatever institution Aparna is at after his deputation is over
3. Chinmayi is doing an LLM at Harvard this year, and is unlikely to return to NLU Delhi

Stuff about Dany, Pai and Anup is correct.
Ok 11 Aug 2019, 06:51
+1 -4
Relax, there are enough fine professors with NLU-D. One or two leaving won't create a void, as such .
Great to hear, but 11 Aug 2019, 12:40
+6 -0
Care to mention who are the other fine professors apart from the ones mentioned and Arul? And if half of the good ones are leaving, its a major cause of concern.
Guest 11 Aug 2019, 18:31
+2 -0
I don't know about the corridors of NLUD, but I can tell you what I overheard in the stairwell recently. 3 of our professors were discussing Prof. Sudhir's appointment and were complaining how he got an unfair advantage because of an illegal appointment done by Prof. M. P. Singh. And now that illegality was being compounded because Prof. M. P. Singh appointed him as VC at NLS on the basis of the first illegal appointment. They were also complaining about Shamnad Sir's appointment - saying that this appointment was also completely illegal (this conversation took place before he died). And when the next VC tried to bring these illegalities to light, Shamnad Sir stirred up protest against him. And he goes around preaching about reforming NLUs when his own appointment was shady. Then they discussed Mrinal, Anup and Aparna's appointments here, which was made possible only because all these three had Ranbir Singh as their godfather and that he has already given Mrinal Sir an illegal promotion and will do the same for Anup and Aparna before he retires. And something about how both of them act as is they are full professors already and don't give respect to seniors and will publically disagree with senior professors, etc etc. Some committee that Aparna is on where there are more senior people but she is heading the committee. And they are getting higher salaries, and heading centres which have lots of money, etc.... They were talking about rumours that Aparna is leaving and whether this is true - all three of them did not know for certain. They started discussing who the next VC will be. But one of them got a call at that time and started walking down where I was sitting, so I quickly got up and left. But I just wanted to say that there is a lot of opposition to these people within the faculty. I don't know if they are right or wrong on the law, but this is what some of them at least feel.
Guest 12 Aug 2019, 02:41
+1 -0
No matter how much the faculty belonging to this young crowd preach about transparency and accountability, they won't refuse any advantage that they personally get because of VC's discretionary power at the NLUs. Nobody would. The world is like that only. Not that I'm saying Sudhir, Shamnad, Mrinal et al lacked the competence. They didn't. But the procedure wasn't proper, that's also true. You get a good VC to cut corners, you can't prevent a bad one from doing the same either.
Guest 5 Aug 2019, 00:34
+6 -1
2 minutes silence for the prof who tried to block Sudhir. Will u resign now?
Guest 5 Aug 2019, 03:25
+0 -0
There is a buzz in the corridors of a certain North Indian NLU that litigation is coming. The challenge will be to Sudhir's appointment as Prof at nujs, some issue about whether he actually meets the 10 year criteria, and the ad that excludes people over the age of 60. Also something about him having fewer publications than others (not sure about this one - it may mean he doesn't have stipulated number of publications or just less than the other two on the shortlist). They are attempting to make a case that MPS did multiple out of turn favours for Sudhir to get him where he is. RTIs are being filed with nls and nujs to get the needed info before the case is filed.
Ok 5 Aug 2019, 11:31
+6 -0
Yeah right. The search committee was headed by the next CJI and the decision will be signed off and ratified by the current CJI. Good luck with any litigation.
Good riddance. 5 Aug 2019, 08:33
+4 -0
Moments like this I am glad I am done with this place.
Angry Profs 5 Aug 2019, 12:18
+1 -1
Good luck with RTIs to NUJS. They are adept at evading and frustrating the requests. Although the EC directed an inquiry against the PIO and Registrar (Acting) on this issue, it is still business-as-usual. Also in some cases depending on who makes the request, tailor-made (but misleading) RTI responses are given, such as when Prof Menon had to save his acolyte in ILI who then went to Law Comm and has come back only to see that the Director position is still elusive.

Quite a bit of Prof MP Singh's "game changing" (or as some would say gaming the system) stuff including Sudhir's professorial appointment is available in the EC, AC etc records that were released following twin pressures from ex-SJA President Arjun Agarwal and the SJA itself. Have a look there.

Speaking of Shamnad. As with Sudhir his credentials were sparkling when he had applied for the IPR Chair position at NUJS. But how did a "Chair Professor" become a full Professor beats me. Chair positions are mostly honorary in India because it also allows industry professionals to be appointed. Therefore, SC/HC judges, senior advocates, bureaucrats etc. These individuals do not have PhDs but there experience etc makes them eligible for Chair positions.

Some interesting nuggets on Shamnad's appointment as IPR Chair in NUJS. Publicly available records suggest that he was the sole applicant but unclear if the position was even properly advertised or the CV came through via "channels"; Shamnad didn't have a PhD (then) and the appointment happened as soon as the Mashelkar wrinkle got ironed. Kapil Sibal was the MHRD. Savvy?

Shamnad received his PhD in 2012/2013. Both Sudhir and Shamnad not only stole a long march over their peers and seniors but also "Professored" for 4 to 5 years due to talent-spotting by Prof MP Singh (and hence the halo of greatness). However, Prof Singh threw the UGC rule book at many others who did not come duly "referenced". When it became difficult to give such out-of-turn promotions, Prof Singh would give out-of-turn increments or have his acolytes (all with brilliant CVs) made "permanent" who would almost immediately go abroad.

Many will say that the brilliant folks who went West deserved such exceptional treatment. Maybe. But then why did Prof Singh give questionable promotions to a trio - AKP and his amigos? It is said that their affinity to Justice Talukdar ensured that they survived the scathing legal opinion by Justice Shyamal Sen, which was quietly tucked away. An EC dominated by friends of Justice Talukdar could care less.

Back to Prof MP Singh. It is fabled that once the EC started scrutinizing out-of-turn appointments and increments to a cherry picked few; making faculty and staff permanent in a questionable manner etc, Prof Singh played victim (hence the deliberately sympathetic portrayal by his acolytes that Prof Singh was wronged by a "system" that he wanted changed for better) . But the EC had enough of his chicanery (and financial jugglery). And when denied a full five year extension, he hit back with Prof Ishwara Bhat. The rest is history, which is conveniently forgotten.

Whatever the supposed frictions between Sudhir and Shamnad, there is a convergence of interests right now. Lots of air kissing waiting to happen among tons of former foes till the night of long knives comes along.

As with Sudhir's appointment, NUJS again holds the key to the planned litigation against Sudhir. It has all the records which could rock the boat. Then again rats could have always selectively eaten those papers/files.
More deeets please! 5 Aug 2019, 14:38
+0 -0
Where exactly should we be looking to see this information on Sudhir-MP Singh nexus, in the AC/EC minutes? Any idea, which years/months that would be. Trawling through them one at a time would be brutal.
GuestOne 5 Aug 2019, 12:26
+5 -9
[b]Just In[/b]: The [...], along with a [i][b]few[/b][/i] faculty members, urgently convened a meeting (4:30 pm today) with the SBA and Student Committees asking them to support the administration's decision to divest the VC of all his powers and consolidate authority in the Registrar.

NLS adminstration is so archaic that they still prefer seniority over merit. So much to scuttle the chances of a prospectively bright leader. Their worthless ego is so high that they don't want to take instructions from Sudhir. At least give him a chance for God's sake.
NLS student 6 Aug 2019, 10:10
+3 -4
This is completely false and in bad taste. LI, please start moderating misinformation.
AnotherGuest 6 Aug 2019, 16:52
+0 -0
Are you sure? I've heard similar stuff from multiple people in Co-Co
Utter lies 7 Aug 2019, 09:39
+5 -0
I was in CoCo. This is not what was said. What was said, was a reiteration of interim VC's earlier instructions to approach the relevant authorities first: Exam Dept/UGC for academic matters, Registrar for campus matters etc. Nowhere was anything like this said. It is so absurd. Like the interim VC and his supporters (who are not liked by students anyway) who want to keep Sudhit out would trust CoCo/SBA to support them in this. It would leak and blowback on them in unimaginable ways.
The interim VC just wanted to restate that he is not open to direct requests/emails on every issue, unlike Venkata Rao who always had an open door policy.
These people (geriatric brigade, anti-Sudhir etc) have a lot of faults. But there's not daft enough to try this.
370 5 Aug 2019, 15:34
+1 -0
A source close to Sudhir is saying that he wants to propose a dual degree arrangement with Columbia, based on the current programme that Columbia has with some colleges in Europe. It will be HUGE if that works out.

https://www.law.columbia.edu/international-programs/study-abroad-programs/international-joint-degrees
Guest 5 Aug 2019, 20:30
+1 -7
I am afraid there can be serious objection to Professor Sudhir. First of all there is issue regarding seniority. Then one can object to a person who is opposing domicile quota despite law being there. Professor Gurpur would have been the best candidate as she has a lot of experience and is reputed. She is also Kannada and daughter of the soil. PIL may be filed challenging the appointment.
Refresh 6 Aug 2019, 01:25
+3 -1
You the kind of morons who will doom any country
Guest1 6 Aug 2019, 02:19
+3 -0
Are you sure about Sudhir opposing domicile quota? Also - Sudhir was born and raised in Bangalore and has worked there most of his life. As much a son of the soil as anyone.
Guest 6 Aug 2019, 08:59
+5 -6
NALSAR and NLUD need not worry. Sudhir is a leftist who is more likely to make NLSIU like JNU than IIT or IIM. At least Shamnad is pragmatic and happy to align with big business sometimes, but Sudhir is a pure leftist.
Really dude? 6 Aug 2019, 12:11
+6 -2
I don't know if Sudhir is a leftist, but I do know this post is pure bullshit.
Angry Profs 6 Aug 2019, 20:23
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Apologies but I cannot be spoon feeding folks looking to salivate on salacious stuff. I have no quarrels with Sudhir's academic credential and personal interactions have been civil. I cannot really single him out for being what many are, myself included - the tendency to give elevated attention, pursuit etc to the "connected" or do strategic "bleeding heart". Many of his peers and seniors, inside and outside academia do it.

Sudhir did what he had to get this position. Gurpur and KDR too pandered to various other interests. They lost. And these contests always run zigzag. As with other VCs, Sudhir too will be returning favours, "forgetting", "remembering" and "inventing" some in the process.

My post was about something else. It was about whether cherry picking is to be encouraged just because it arguably produced a 'good" outcome. Have the who, when, what and hows of cherry-picking been considered? Do short-term or sporadic gains (disputed) trump long-term consequences?

I doubt that those serious about taking Sudhir to court are waiting for me to provide details. [Moderated because no details provided]

On the point about Justice Bobde swinging it for Sudhir and hence going to courts will be stupid. Yes, whoever made that point, is probably right. As the saying goes, there is a difference between knowing the law and knowing the judge.

Then again some "fool" in HNLU went to the Raipur HC because the VC of HNLU had been given an illegal extension by the Chancellor - the CJ of the same Court. This extension was given by the EC, which had an SC judge, AG of the State and other worthies and signed off by a Chancellor who is now in the SC. And yet despite the twists, the miracle happened. The VC was ejected although the SC kinda gave him the elbow room to return. That's where the students came in. And we known the rest.

Unfortunately, as with NUJS, NUSRL, CNLU etc here too the students got sold short by a cabal of worthies including the high priests of justice, law and other such hollow things. Maybe there is more than a cautionary tale in all of these episodes.
Veni Vidi ViCi 6 Aug 2019, 21:41
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There are fables of how VCs are actually chosen. MoGo was pushed by the then CJI despite the objections of the then Law Minister. Venkat Rao dethroned a Prof Menon favourite. This "unkind" cut was made by a doyen (now deceased) of the SC Bar who otherwise had excellent relations with Prof Menon but was shocked by how certain inconvenient details were left out while seeking his support. Prof Menon lobbied for this candidate in another well-known NLU but was thwarted by a former SC judge and some others who did not want to be taken on a ride again. To avoid another MoGo run, NLS elevated one of its internal candidates as an interim VC and then regularized it. In NUJS, it is said that the new VC was so scared that an NLIU may happen to him that he rushed to take charge within two/three days of the CJI sign off coming in. This guy couldn't believe that his lobbying which had come undone for NLU Lucknow, NUSRL and MNLU Mumbai and even NUJS previously, worked this time. Things may have played very differently if the process were to take place after the recent Lok Sabha results. The Bengal govt wanted a "Bengali" just like MNLU Mumbai wanted a "Marathi". On domicile quota it is said that they want to mimic MNLU as well.

The NLIU VC thing is actually instructive. Students came to know that politicking had ensured that VK was upstaged by someone really sad. So they agitated and that compelled the necessary change.

The rules require the EC to forward the name or names to the CJI. Nothing suggests that EC must agree with the choice of the Search Committee although a divergence will of course need solid reasons. So yes, Sudhir is mostly in Yes terrain.

However, if the majority of the EC or certain worthies or even the state government (formally or through other channels) were to raise red flags, especially the "Professor" appointment issue at NUJS with proper records and clearly show the conflict-of-interest with Prof MP Singh (and whether he disclosed all material particulars in the search comm meetings) that may disrupt or prolong the appointment.

It ain't over, till it's over.
Reservation in Coming 7 Aug 2019, 00:08
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https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/kannadiga-tweak-in-push-for-reservation/cid/1696066?ref=india_home-template
Guest 7 Aug 2019, 02:02
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MoUs with Oxford and Columbia coming up!
Guest 7 Aug 2019, 14:52
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NEWS FLASH: Govt has passed a bill declaring National Institute of Design campuses as Institute of national Importance. Yet NLSIU is excluded. Is Sudhir gonna do something?

https://www.indiatoday.in/education-today/news/story/rajya-sabha-passes-bill-on-national-institutes-of-design-nids-in-four-states-1578122-2019-08-07
Simply? 8 Aug 2019, 05:27
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Are you asking for the sake of it? Firstly, do you know what an Institute of National Importance envisages and whether any other entity that is created by an act of State Legislature (National Law School of India University Act is an Act of the Karnataka Legislature) has been so designated?

Secondly, as of now Sudhir is a Dean in the Azim Premji University. What do you want him to do? Why do you troll for no reason?
Guest 8 Aug 2019, 11:00
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Check tour facts. Jadavpur and Anna University have ben declared IOE despite being state universities. In the private category, JGLS got selected but it is the product of a Haryana govt statute.
Guest 8 Aug 2019, 12:23
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Actually, JU and AU's status are subject to the respective state governments coughing up their share of the financial support. It's not a done deal yet. Jindal is easier, since it is not being given any funds, just the status and autonomy (latter it mostly had on a lot of matters being private).
Guest 11 Aug 2019, 13:47
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The allegation of Sudhir against Shamnad has been responded to by Spicy IP today.

https://spicyip.com/2019/08/shamnad-basheer-1976-2019-the-man-the-academic-and-the-friend.html
Angry Profs 11 Aug 2019, 23:54
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Responding to a commentator who overheard stuff. Yes, there will be a lot more of these conversations happening and will likely continue in the near term. My question to the Profs and those unhappy with Sudhir's appointment is this - why grumble when there is evidence to rumble? Either do what needs to be done or suck up. But this nagging really needs to stop.
Guest 12 Aug 2019, 20:15
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Guys, Sudhir has been overheard telling people that he is in talks with Oxford for a dual degree arrangement and pushing it through alumni teaching there!
Guest 13 Aug 2019, 08:14
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Sudhir should really invest in some means to ensure his personal privacy. So many people end up overhearing him speaking about so many issues these days!
Guest 18 Aug 2019, 00:27
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Hi, I don't know who to ask so here goes, Kian if you have any advice on this and don't want to post this, that'd be amazing too-

I'm in the 3rd year of Law School (Private law school in Mumbai, very strict attendance no scope for interning all year.), I have taken the CLAT before.

I want to prepare for the CLAT again and not all my reasons are academic in nature (but a portion of them certainly are)

If this did work out, I'd be joining an NLU at the age of 21 with a 4 year gap between when I passed out of school and joined college. I really want to sit for the CLAT again and do well, I don't have a problem with graduating at 26 if it's from a good place but it's important for me to understand if this gap will negatively affect me in terms of recruitment and LLM applications so that I can make an informed decision on whether the trade off is worth devoting my time towards getting a better law school instead of internships/publications/studying DPC

I'm very confused about this and would be glad to have suggestions.
I'd only go if I got NLS/NALSAR, my question is if I did graduate from one of these two, will the 4-year gap hurt me from getting a job and/or LLM acceptance?
Because if that's the case I'll just stay here, where my job and/or LLM prospects are bad anyway.
Guest 18 Aug 2019, 13:08
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My thoughts

- The crowd is getting older at NLUs
- Age generally does not matter in the legal profession
- As you have studied law for 3 years, you should do well appearing for the same papers (although first year has socio, pol science etc, and the standard at NLUs is much higher)
- It's silly of you to just aim for NLSIU/NALSAR and exclude NLUD,NUJS, as placements are at par.

However, my own view is that you should complete your course at try for LLM CLAT instead. The competition at NLUs is fierce, and you will regret it if you end up in the bottom of the batch.
Dadaji 19 Aug 2019, 10:03
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The value of a top tier NLU law degree will easily outweigh the loss of time you may suffer. A career in law is a long distance marathon and a loss a few years can easily be made up with the advantage of a tier 1 NLU law degree. I would further advise that its not really worth doing an LLM in India once you graduate from an NLS or Nalsar. If you are keen on a career in academics, it would be worthwhile pursuing an LLM in an ivy league school in the US. If you want to get into practice (either transactional or litigation), you are really wasting your time doing an LLM. Jump into practice right after your degree. Your age is unlikely to be a disadvantage. Even if you do not get recruited by a law firm of your choice because of your age, the foundation that your studies would have laid will stand you in good stead throughout your career. For all you know, the India legal market would have opened up to foreign law firms by then, and assuming that you are otherwise competent, an employer would be very foolish to reject a candidate because of his/her age.

Go for it.
Advisor 20 Aug 2019, 10:46
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My two bits on your query:

1. Personally, I am not in favour of wasting 3 years to start law afresh at one of the NLUs you outlined in your post. You could easily cover up the gap by working a little hard in initial years of profession;
2. While age should not be a relevant criteria for recruitments, it certainly is a criteria for many scholarships for international studies, so you need to weigh the pros and cons carefully

Whatever you decide, put your heart and soul into it and I'm sure you'll do great !!
Thank you! 6 Apr 2020, 00:15
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You're all incredibly nice. Thank you for advising me about this, end sems got cancelled and internals are getting scaled up and because of the lockdown I can't intern so I'm taking the CLAT. I'll make a decision once I have a result. Genuinely, thank you!
Worried 24 Aug 2019, 11:21
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The Registrar has been unduly delaying the appointment. He hasn't sent out the appointment letter still. God help NLS.
Guest 25 Aug 2019, 07:53
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Two NLSIU alumni have just made history and been appointed as professors at Oxford! It is now very likely that a partnership agreement between NSLIU and Oxford will be signed and NSLIU will individually be awarded Institution of National Importance Status. 2020 will be a historic year.
Guest 25 Aug 2019, 14:26
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There's a third too, not at Oxford, but at another top European university.
Guest 25 Aug 2019, 17:02
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Which university?
Guest 25 Aug 2019, 17:15
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3 alums appointed profs at Oxford, 1 at EUI Florence and Sudhir as VC. Two minutes silence for the prof who hates alumni so much that the prof tried to scuttle Sudhir's appointment and suggested on Facebook that alumni and students should not run the college.
Sudhir Bhakt 6 Sept 2019, 12:14
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Any news of his joining date?
Guest 6 Sept 2019, 18:43
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The plan is to delay the appointment till all the RTI replies come in, a case can be filed against the appointment and appointment can be stayed by the court. Don't know if they will succeed but that's the plan. Don't expect Krishnaswamy to take over anytime soon.
Guest 7 Sept 2019, 02:24
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Sudhir's plans include applying for National Importance status, inviting alumni teaching abroad to become visiting professors, a tie-up with Oxford, fund-raising from private sources and a research focus. Who will want to oppose such a progressive vision? Her Royal Highness and her minions.
Guest 7 Sept 2019, 07:55
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Yes, Oxford is just waiting to be summoned for a tie-up with NLSIU. The sheer level of delusion of Indian law schools and their students about their 'quality' beggars belief these days.