NLS VC Sudhir Krishnaswamy one of 20 members of Facebook’s new oversight trust that is to cure its Content Problem

Sudhir Krishnaswamy to be one of 20 to assist Facebook with content moderation policies
Sudhir Krishnaswamy to be one of 20 to assist Facebook with content moderation policies

NLSIU Bangalore vice chancellor (VC) Prof Sudhir Krishnaswamy has been appointed to a novel Facebook content oversight board that seeks to help solve the US-based advertising behemoth festering content moderation problems, as first reported IANS.

Krishnaswamy commented to IANS:

Content moderation and content control has been a problem in most jurisdictions around the world, India being one of the most affected. Currently content is controlled either by private companies or the government.

“Creating this new mechanism for platform governance to oversee a private company is a radical reform; if this mechanism works, it provides us with a new institutional model for handling content moderation in the future. This is as important to the future of democracy as it is to the market.”

More of Krishnaswamy’s credentials for the role are set out in the IANS article, such as having co-founded the NGO Centre for Law and Policy Research (for advancing constitutional protections) been part of the founding team of the Bangalore-based NGO, Alternative Law Forum, and he has “cautioned on the importance of ensuring that regulatory frameworks governing content platforms are ‘consistent with our constitutional and political values of our democracy’ and that ‘excessive and dangerous discretion in the hands of regulating officers of the government’ could ‘lead to violation of basic human rights and constitutionally protected fundamental rights of citizens’“, according to IANS.

Other members of the board include other academics and senior NGO members and activists, Yemeni Nobel Peace Prize winner Tawakkol Karman, former Guardian editor-in-chief and Facebook critic Alan Rusbridger,

Notably, Facebook makes clear that the contract of the new members is with the Oversight Board and that they are not Facebook employees and can not be removed by Facebook.

We have reached out to Krishnaswamy asking about the time commitment and salary component of the role and will update this article later.

According to Facebook’s press release (which is bylined by Nick Clegg, the advertising giant’s VP of Global Affairs and Communications since 2018, who was previously also the Liberal Democrat Party deputy prime minister of the United Kingdom from 2010 until 2015 under its ill-fated coalition with the Tories):

The members announced today reflect a wide range of views and experiences. They have lived in over 27 countries, speak at least 29 languages and are all committed to the mission of the Oversight Board.

We expect them to make some decisions that we, at Facebook, will not always agree with – but that’s the point: they are truly autonomous in their exercise of independent judgment. We also expect that the board’s membership itself will face criticism. But its long-term success depends on it having members who bring different perspectives and expertise to bear.

Facebook has of course seen wide-ranging criticism over its content moderation policies (or lack thereof), having been blamed and/or hauled up by or before governments, parliamentary oversight committees and international bodies for a range of problems that covers nearly everything from allowing hate speech, censorship of minority views, rigging elections, as well as facilitating genocide and ethnic cleansing.

According to Clegg, part of the problem Facebook faces is its size, with which “comes a great deal of responsibility” (though Clegg fails to explicitly mention Facebook’s parallel overriding responsibility to grow as fast as possible (and formerly break things) in order to increase profitability for shareholders and its founder Mark Zuckerberg, who controls around 60% of voting stock in the company).

In any case, regarding content moderation, “most judgments do not have obvious, or uncontroversial, outcomes and yet many of them have significant implications for free expression,” noted Clegg in the press statement. “That’s why we have created and empowered a new group to exercise independent judgment over some of the most difficult and significant content decisions.”

This first group of members, including Krishnaswamy, came about after a “global consultation process” hosted by Facebook with workshops and roundtables including more than 650 individuals in 88 countries.

Now, as a result of this exercise, Facebook has constituted the oversight board trust, appointed its members and released the board’s final charter and bylaws.

The independent “Oversight Board Trust” was set up in October 2019 as a Delaware Limited Liability Company (LLC), functioning as a Non-Charitable Purpose Trust, according to the social media and advertising conglomerate.

(For trust documentation wonks, Facebook has even uploaded the Trust Agreement (pdf), and the LLC Operating Agreement (pdf), as well as amendment agreements on its website).

Comments

Guest3 7 May 2020, 10:45
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@kian, did you miss the former PM of Denmark as one of the trustees?
MaiJantaHun 7 May 2020, 11:00
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Congratulations to Prof. Krishnaswamy and NLS ! However, with his appointment I noticed a dangerous trend catching up among students of elite National Law Universities. They want to have a say in appointment of the Vice Chancellor. While such an interference by students should be welcomed and paid required attention, students themselves need to think through their demands.

Many a times the demand is to have a NLU graduate as VC, one with recognisable IV League associations. You need not be a genius to see merit in this demand. The issue is that students - while focusing on (or at times being impressed by) the optics, very often miss out of the other realities of law school administration. I am not sure how many of them enquire if the new VC would hire good law teachers on tenure, whats her/his plan for the University and its infrastructure, in short and long term. Not sure how many times they post on social media about work and living conditions for ad-hoc teachers in their University.

I am neither a law student or a law teacher at a NLU. I did graduate from one and I do feel for the state of legal education in India. I am not aware as to how many law teachers will read my comment or will like it. I would however want the students to appreciate it.
wait 7 May 2020, 11:51
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Sudhir's selection list is ready. Expect the hiring asap once Corona issues stabilises
ToGetBackOnCampus 7 May 2020, 12:23
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Dude, do you teach Public Law at Nalsar ? Just curious :)
Nalsarite 7 May 2020, 14:47
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Lol if you’re asking if he’s sidharth chauhan he probably isn’t - chauhan has clearly stated time and again that he doesn’t comment anonymously on LI
Guest 7 May 2020, 18:58
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Yes, but who has on that list? Who all are heading to bangalore?
Guest 8 May 2020, 06:17
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Nobody till lockdown is in operation, hopefully.
Guest3 8 May 2020, 07:35
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I haven't seen it myself, but I'm told the assistant professor grade cohort is exceptionally good. Even blew away the expectations of the admin. More senior positions were more or less solicited, so no real surprises there.
Perspectiva 7 May 2020, 18:45
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So this is really not the time or place to have this debate (again). A good VC should be able to do both administrative duties and also build a culture of rigorous research and study in a university. How many TLC VCs can do the latter? How many can set this kind of example for their colleagues and students?
And there is no proof that Sudhir hasn’t been a good manager thus far. Recruitment’s stalking because of coronavirus is hardly his fault.
Guest 8 May 2020, 06:19
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As much as I like Sudhir for his achievements and scholarship, I am still left to wonder where exactly any 'rigorous research' might be involved in a position like this, not that it isn't prestigious in its own right.
Perspectiva 8 May 2020, 14:13
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Did you look at how people were selected for this job? Part of the consideration was that they be recognised as experts in their field, that they be able to look at both sides of an issue and make a convincing argument to their fellow panelists, that they have a background in human rights work.
A part of being an expert is rigorous research which Sudhir has undoubtedly modeled. Besides every organisation he has been a part of - he has improved in that regard.
Guest 8 May 2020, 14:44
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@Perspectiva: I don't doubt Sudhir's qualification for the job. I meant that the job itself does not appear to require engaging in any kind of rigorous research.
Perspectiva 8 May 2020, 19:19
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I’m not sure about that. Sudhir was qualified for the job because of his history of rigorous research- that was atleast one of the criterion. I’m not sure what the job would entail in specifics- but from what I can glean there is judging and convincing panelist’s - but all of that is to be done with evidence and interpreting human rights law and Facebook’s user content policy . There’s also some talk of these panelist’s relying on testimonials from experts in various societies / jurisdictions. it seems to me that there is atleast some research and writing work involved in this project. And people chosen seem to have been chosen for their ability to follow through on that?
Guest 8 May 2020, 05:48
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A better choice would have someone more actively involved in free speech/cyber law issues. Not taking names to avoid attacks on those people.
Doubtful 8 May 2020, 14:16
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Well - when you look at how people were selected for the post - it seems doubtful that the “tech law” crowd in India could have made the cut.
There are benefits to specialising in one area of the law but there are also significant costs.
Guest 8 May 2020, 14:46
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Along with that, heading an organization with success for a few years might also have bolstered Sudhir's chances. There are some issues which require that kind of perspective too, apart from research skills.
Guest 8 May 2020, 05:50
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Kian, you owe us an update on NLSIU faculty appointment and NLUD VC selection. The TLC lobby is trying t hijack both. Don't you have high-level sources or do you only rely on student leaks?
Guest3 8 May 2020, 06:44
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Stop whining. The Law School faculty selection list is finalised. It was on the agenda to be placed before the EC meeting, before Corona crisis hit.
Guest 8 May 2020, 05:51
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Cost of private law school advertising aggressively to prove they are better than NLSIU: Rs 1 crore
Cost of Facebook recognising NLSIU as the best: Priceless.
Guest 8 May 2020, 06:58
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Facebook considering Sudhir as the best fit for this is equivalent to them having recognised Law School as the best? Wherever you've learnt logic from, mate, it sure isn't from Law School.
Guest3 8 May 2020, 07:32
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Its good publicity for law school, that's for sure. Next time Zuck might be in town meeting and greeting Modi, maybe Sudhir will get to go along. He can say "cohort" ad infinitum to Modi.
Guest 8 May 2020, 05:53
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I disagree with this choice. There are other candidates who were better.
Guest3 8 May 2020, 07:00
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You should complain to Zuck.
Guest 8 May 2020, 07:28
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But he hasn't put the 'dislike' button in place yet! Maybe Sudhir would make that happen if we ask him nicely.
Guest 8 May 2020, 08:49
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The new NLSIU hires are all top class. I can post the names but LI will censor.
Guest 8 May 2020, 10:43
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Have you been taught by them, or have read their publications then?
Guest 8 May 2020, 10:53
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There are ways to get around it. Use acronyms and give background (where did they study, what kind of work exp, subject area, where are they moving from, etc etc) rather than the names directly. Most people will be able to guess. There was so much speculation about faculty moving from other law schools to NLS. I am mostly interested in knowing if that is going to happen, and from where.
Guest 8 May 2020, 12:50
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I seriously doubt barring the occasional person, anybody would have left a permanent position at one of the older NLUs to shift to NLSIU without pay protection as the advertisement suggested. Of course, if they managed to negotiate better terms during the interview, then the NLSIU alum may at least consider coming back. So may people working at younger NLUs.
Guest1 8 May 2020, 19:25
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weren’t permanent positions also advertised? In addition to temporary ones? In that case I could see a fair number of asst prof level folks wanting to move - especially those who- for political reasons- haven’t been regularised at their current institutions.

Besides academics move for a lot of reasons and not just pay- if that were the case no one would ever leave a Jindal job. There’s just too many factors to take into account- whether someone is happy at their current job, whether university/ faculty politics is going their way, whether they think nls and Sudhir could offer better research/ teaching opportunities, whether the pay might be slightly higher, whether living is Bangalore is appealing- just so many things go into these decisions - it’s hardly A straightforward and easy thing to predict.
Unless folks who have been contacted and offered jobs come forward/ their names get announced there’s really no way to make a reliable guess about this stuff.
Guest 8 May 2020, 19:44
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Permanent positions, yes, but salary was entry level without pay protection as per the ad, which was a bit surprising. This meant an Assistant Professor having worked elsewhere for 2 years would have to start at entry level salary again unless they get an associate professor position. But as I said, that can be negotiated during interviews and your other points about differing motivations aren't wrong either.
CLAT noobie 8 May 2020, 19:44
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NLS domicile reservation bill has been signed into law by the governor "effective immediately " . Shouldn't the CLAT application forms be updated accordingly? Ironic if a law institute doesn't follow the law...
Guest 9 May 2020, 08:17
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I know of 2 people who have been hired by NLSIU, both college alumni. One is an associate prof at a law school who has been given professor rank. The other teaches as an assistant prof at another law school who has been given associate professor rank. One has degrees from the UK and the other from the US.
Guest 9 May 2020, 10:16
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Where they have degrees from matters less than how good they are as teachers or researchers. Dish some info on those fronts please.
Guest 9 May 2020, 12:09
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It is clear no one really knows who has been selected. It is not a state secret that people cant reveal it here if they do know it. For public university posts NOC is required from current employer. So for everyone who applied, their current employers know that they have applied. So that consideration for not revealing names is not present. Sudhir of course would have informed selected people that they have been selected if only to make sure that they don't join elsewhere. So the people on the list also know. Then the only reason left for not revealing names/details here is because people who claim to know, don't really know. They are making assumptions. Someone says AB is on the list, another says he was on the screening committee. Both can't be true at the same time.
Guests 9 May 2020, 15:53
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Maybe Sudhir hasn’t told people who are on the list? It’s hard to imagine that people have been informed and word hasn’t gotten out.
Guest 9 May 2020, 18:19
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That would be incredibly stupid of him. People won't wait around for an offer from him forever. They may join elsewhere, especially Jindal. I give him more credit than this. The people that he wants would have been sounded out. If not, it doesn't speak well for Sudhir as an administrator.
Guests 10 May 2020, 10:13
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Maybe it wasn’t all in his control- no one expected coronavirus and this kind of disruption- no one expected that recruitment’s would take so long.
Off with your head 9 May 2020, 10:17
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The EC meeting hasn't been held since and they have already been hired and given these posts? Is this Alice in Wonderland?
Guests 9 May 2020, 10:59
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Could you say more? Maybe the batch/ year they graduated?
Leak 9 May 2020, 10:15
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Have been duly informed that an NLS alum who has written a famous book dealing extensively in PIL has accepted a faculty position at NLS. Well done Sudhir! Looking forward to his courses at Nagarbhavi
Guests 9 May 2020, 10:58
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If this is who I think it is- well done for nls for courting the person ;)
Is he joining as a full professor?
Guest 9 May 2020, 12:02
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This person has joined Jindal. So if he was actually on the shortlist, NLS has lost him due to the delay. However it is very unlikely that he applied in the first place. He was being 'courted' by Jindal for sone time. Bigger question is why can't EC meeting be held online? If Sudhir is waiting for a in person EC meeting, that possibly won't happen before August - September. Which means, with notice etc, new profs won't join before December. Half of them will get snapped up by places like Jindal before that.
Nonsense 9 May 2020, 13:20
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This isn't true. So this tangential speculation hating on Law School is in bad faith.
Nonsense 9 May 2020, 11:20
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This person was on the screening panel for interviews. He appointed himself?
Guest 9 May 2020, 13:18
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The following are NLSIU alumni teaching at Jindal:

1) Anuj Bhuwania, PhD Columbia: Profesor rank
2) Mathew John, PhD Warwick: Associate professor rank
3) Faiz Tajuddin, LLM Columbia: Assistant profesor rank

You can guess who may be poached.
4th year 9 May 2020, 14:55
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With Sudhir's new hires, NLS will become the true Harvard of the east. We have the best students, placements, mooters and researchers! All other NLUs and colleges can take a hike!
Alumna 9 May 2020, 15:55
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This comment would be more worthy of a first year.
Academike 11 May 2020, 09:42
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If you do not like what @fourthyear is saying (which is objectively true by any yardstick), please go to a TLC or some other private college. Don't troll here
Guest 11 May 2020, 14:03
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I've got a stick. If I throw it, would you play fetch?
Alumna 11 May 2020, 18:52
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I never said it was untrue. I did go to law school. I just think we can aim a little higher than being better than some of these colleges - we did aim higher when we were students.
Nope 9 May 2020, 16:12
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Harvard will become NLS of the West. http://nlsquirks.in/notes-from-a-foreign-field/
Guest 9 May 2020, 17:24
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Chala machhar karne sheron ka shikar!
Guest 10 May 2020, 06:56
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4 of the new hires are from other NLUs, 2 are from JGLS. All are NLU alumni.
Guest 10 May 2020, 08:35
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Fake news.
Guests 10 May 2020, 10:12
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Why don’t you tell us names instead? It’s hard to believe without details?
Well 12 May 2020, 08:25
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I've heard a name on the list is quite something. I mean really shocking (but in a good way).
Guest 12 May 2020, 13:37
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Maybe it's Justice Scalia's ghost.