NLSIU exec council postpones VC decision, Rao to leave by month-end

Rao to leave NLSIU, but no new permanent VC yet
Rao to leave NLSIU, but no new permanent VC yet

NLSIU Bangalore’s executive council (EC) has today decided to delay the decision to select the next vice chancellor (VC), we understand from two authoritative sources.

It is understood that current VC, Prof Venkata Rao, has requested that his term should end by the end of this month.

The EC have scheduled another meeting for 23 July to decide on next steps, or possibly to finalise one name amongst the three shortlisted final candidates, but we have not been able to authoritatively confirm the exact next steps at the time of publication.

Supreme Court Justices SA Bobde, Mohan M Shantanagoudar and Bar Council of India (BCI) chairman Manan Kumar Mishra will be making a final determination on the process then.

The EC had been expected to make a decision today, with students having made a wish list in a letter yesterday for their ideal VC.

To be updated.

Comments

Guest 6 Jul 2019, 09:50
+5 -11
This was because of the student petition, which has been taken note of by senior members in the committee and frustrated the plan of the anti-Sudhir lobby. Well done to the students for fighting hard!
Suds? 6 Jul 2019, 15:04
+8 -0
Except everyone knows Sudhir isn't coming as VC it's actually going to be __________. The birds are a'twittin about this.
Guest 6 Jul 2019, 10:01
+4 -4
Yesterday's budget speech mentioned the following priorities:

" overall research eco-system in the country is strengthened"

- "concerted efforts to improve" performance in QS and Times London rankings

- "a programme, ‘Study in India’, that will focus on bringing foreign students to study in our higher educational institutions."

This is in line with the SBA proposals and Sudhir's international credentials, and so the new VC MUST be Sudhir according to our government's own priorities.

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/economy/budget-2019-text-of-fm-nirmala-sitharamans-speech-4174871.html
Waah guest ji waah 6 Jul 2019, 18:10
+9 -1
I just hope that you have not passed more than 3 trimester. I like the naiveness in you millenial.
Guest 6 Jul 2019, 12:26
+9 -5
"Lathi goli khayenge, Sudhir to VC banayenge" - SBA battlecry
Guest 6 Jul 2019, 13:08
+12 -7
From his office being pelted by students with firecrackers to this, Sudhir's journey as an academic has been a chequered one.
Guest 6 Jul 2019, 14:18
+22 -6
The only difference is that this sloganeering is from students who haven't actually had any experience with him, which means they are probably jumping the gun. The firecrackers were from students whom he had actually been teaching for a couple of years.
guest1 7 Jul 2019, 14:58
+4 -0
In any case, the fact that they put firecrackers in his room speaks volumes about the ability of these students to reason and logically present their arguments no? Surely thats not acceptable behavior in any university setting.

And its not like only students who did this know Sudhir, he has in his short but illustrious career worked with so many people in Indian academia, and so many students. And they all have good things to say about him. He taught Sidharth Chauhan at NLS and now the latter is his biggest cheerleader.
Guest 7 Jul 2019, 16:58
+5 -1
Sorry to say this. I've nothing against Sudhir as a legal scholar and researcher. Highly intelligent and able. But I've been his student in a classroom setting. Distinctly underwhelming. Even that's okay, because good teachers tend to mature with experience. But he just lacked empathy for even genuine student problems and struggling students. I actually like teachers who prefer to have high standards, maintain discipline etc. I believe it does a lot of students a whole lot of good later even if they can't realise it immediately. Yet the points that I mentioned would continue to be held against Sudhir strictly as a teacher. I'm not sure about firecracker episode or something like that though. Yet the point here isn't about whether he's a good admin, right? That's yet to be established. Give him some time. He doesn't need all this adulation and weight of expectations from students who know very little about him personally. If he fails, that doesn't prove law school alum don't make good admin. Just that maybe this person isn't ready for it yet. If he succeeds, we'd have NLS reach new heights, which is great for legal education in the country I'd say.
YY 7 Jul 2019, 18:05
+4 -4
Have you heard of the Biblical expression casting pearls before swine? That explains why Sid Chauhan supports Sudhir and the morons who burst firecrackers don't. I wish Sudhir had failed the ungrateful students at your college and not merely given them a low grade.
Guest 7 Jul 2019, 18:30
+4 -1
@YY: Okay. Missed your meds again, have you? No more late nights for you. I'm happy to know SidChau supports Sudhir. Doubtless he'd come back to NLSIU then in case Sudhir is at the helm of affairs. Or is that reason he's supporting Sudhir? Who knows? Haven't seen him talking about the problematic points mentioned about Sudhir anywhere though. Only about his academic credentials. Which are excellent. If you have been one of Sudhir's students and believe that whenever someone criticises a teacher, that person is a swine and when someone expresses adulation about a teacher, then everything must be hunky-dory about the teacher, then it goes to show that your education leaves a lot to be desired. Which of course isn't a reflection on your teacher alone.
Guest 7 Jul 2019, 18:34
+2 -1
Dude, we get it. You love Sudhir. [...] If you have nothing more to add about him, positive or negative, then let others speak without bullying them. I believe some of the points mentioned here are quite pertinent about a potential VC candidate and relevant to the extent of being discussed. Clearly you don't. [...] Sheesh!
guest1 7 Jul 2019, 18:23
+7 -0
So I have been in his classes also. He did his job well, had a carefully prepared lesson plan, an intelligently prepared syllabus and had reasonable expectations from his students. He's not one for long passionate lectures- he seems to prefer discussions and rigorous analysis.
I have seen him be fairly empathetic to students- I have seen him make exceptions for students who genuinely are struggling with mental health issues or family problems, and I have seen him inconvenience himself to go out of his way to help them. This is not to say that he is always kind. He can often be harsh, and quick to judgment, and kind of catty. But atleast he is open to being questioned and challenged which is more than can be said for any of the other dinosaurs who are up for the VC job.
And as for his skills as an administrator- speaking with his colleagues at APU or CLPR , who would have had a chance to work with him more recently, would provide a better measure than people who knew him almost a decade ago when he was just starting his work.
Wasp 8 Jul 2019, 11:26
+4 -0
Sudhir was the Director of the School for Policy and Governance (which offers two courses- MA in Public Policy and an LLM) at Azim Premiji University while I was pursuing Masters there. Won't get into his method of teaching etc. cos honestly that's pretty well established and he is a Professor par excellence. As for his administrative skills, he was very receptive of students' concerns. We'd have a couple of open houses every semester which he would oversee to understand particular issues. He's acted on most of the feedback he had receive from us. His biggest struggle while at APU was dealing with a pretty shitty management- the University administration, which also finally led to him stepping down. For the most part he's stood by students, even during protests against the University. Just to be clear, none of us at the School for Policy and Governance were happy with the way the University handled a lot of things and we sorely missed his presence as the Director during the crucial Placement season.

APU caters to students belonging to marginalized backgrounds and if you have attended his classes, you would know he is very accommodating of students who struggle with language barriers. Of course he can be unkind and strict with evaluation but not with any sense of condescension. Much less condescension than what I see in the comments section here, anyway!

Also, guys, firecrackers, really? So much for logical reasoning and deliberative democracy! Good luck with whoever your new VC is. APU clearly lost an asset.
Bowman 8 Jul 2019, 12:41
+4 -1
The Sudhir you are referring to from his APU stint seems very different from the one during his NUJS stint, because that's when I'd met him last. Without any intention to cast negative aspersion, if age and experience have helped him mature into a better academic, administrator [...], that's a positive development, right? This disproves neither someone's contention that he might have left a lot to be desired during his NUJS stint, nor that he might have learnt his lesson and gone on to better himself. That's the mark of a promising teacher, after all.
Guest 9 Jul 2019, 07:22
+0 -2
Dude, stop shitposting repeatedly on this. You were a mediocre student and a got a low grade. Stop bearing a grudge for life.
Guest 9 Jul 2019, 10:44
+2 -0
Actually, he'd marked me fairly and rather well. I've got no issues against his grading or evaluation at all. If that's the takeaway that you've got from my comments, then you are a bigger fool than you give yourself credit for.
Burn 6 Jul 2019, 14:42
+12 -13
Not really. The students who pelted his office were zeroes from a tier 2 NLU unaccustomed to high standards and strict evaluation. Here we are talking about the country's premier law school. It is instead better to compare NLSIU students with Sudhir's students at Columbia.
Guest 6 Jul 2019, 15:48
+9 -5
Keep saying that if that's what makes you happy. The people who actually know about the incident know better than that.
Boita 6 Jul 2019, 17:49
+12 -4
You are referring to the incident where NUJSs 5th year students jeered sudhir after a harsh paper evaluation
Guest 7 Jul 2019, 03:15
+2 -5
It had nothing to do with paper evaluation, harsh or otherwise. Half knowledge is a dangerous thing.
Guest 7 Jul 2019, 04:57
+5 -3
Are you seriously comparing an average NLSIU grad with an average Columbia grad? Please disclose the quality of the weed that you've been smoking, seems highly potent.
Guest 6 Jul 2019, 14:47
+5 -0
Kian, Bar & Bench has the updated info:

[i]Sources also indicate that Prof V Nagaraj will take over as acting Vice-Chancellor. He previously served as Registrar of NLSIU from 2008 to 2013. He also served a stint as Vice-Chancellor of National Law University, Odisha from 2013 to 2014.

In the Executive Council meeting held today, names proposed for the new NLSIU VC have been rejected. It is understood that a fresh search will be undertaken.

The search for the NLSIU VC was chaired by former NUJS Director MP Singh, Attorney General KK Venugopal and Senior Advocate Arvind Datar.

It is understood that former NLSIU student and faculty at Azim Premji University Sudhir Krishnaswamy and Symbiosis Law School Director Dr. Shashikala Gurpur were amongst the candidates who had applied for the post of Vice-Chancellor. With the conduct of a fresh search, new names are likely to be considered.[/i]

https://barandbench.com/nlsiu-to-get-new-vice-chancellor-dr-venkata-rao-to-leave-end-of-this-month/
Guest 6 Jul 2019, 15:49
+4 -2
Why is B&B so directorial? Prof. Singh was the VC of NUJS, not its director.
Guest 6 Jul 2019, 16:33
+4 -0
This is a fairly big insult to the search committee members, if true. Does this mean they are going to refuse to be part of this new search?
Insider 6 Jul 2019, 16:35
+7 -0
History repeats itself. In 2008, the EC rejected the panel of 3 candidates for VCship. Thereafter, even the the search committee was scrapped. Sheer politics. A new search committee was formed. That new search committee recommended a panel of 3 new candidates which included the present incumbent Prof R Venkata Rao. Nobody knows what is now in the store.
Acha 6 Jul 2019, 18:12
+4 -6
Legally India got it right. Bar and Bench has reported incorrectly - such a shame. The list has not been scrapped and Prof. VNR is not going to make incharge VC. Sudhir is first on the list for now.
kianganz 7 Jul 2019, 05:13
+4 -1
We had also heard the V Nagaraj rumour, but haven't been able to confirm this sufficiently for publication. I believe Nagaraj's name may have mentioned in the EC, but I don't think a formal decision on interim VC has been made yet.

Early rumours floating around had also indicated that the entire list had been scrapped, but we understood that this was not what would be recorded in the minutes and is currently mere speculation, hence we did not publish it.
Babbar 7 Jul 2019, 08:56
+3 -2
Kians gossip sourced from unreliable sources: News, Scoops, Journalism

Someone else's gossip sourced from unreliable sources: Speculation
kianganz 7 Jul 2019, 10:36
+1 -1
Well, since you asked (sorta)... Journalism is in large part simply about following good procedure and I think our record regarding the accuracy of stories based on unnamed sources over the years should speak for itself. In the overwhelming majority of cases, as required by most credible media outlets, we require at least two independent authoritative sources confirming the same facts before running with a story based solely on off-the-record sourcing. After all, with respect to facts, it's better to be safe than sorry.

In this case, cutting a long story short, one authoritative source had confirmed Dr Nagaraj's appointment as interim VC to us off-record, but a second authoritative source directly and unequivocally contradicted this off-the-record. We therefore didn't run with the angle of his appointment. Also, the first source later confirmed that they had been been mistaken in their initial version of events.

It seems that Nagaraj is probably the front-runner for becoming interim VC if that position is not filled by month-end (and in light of his administrative experience as registrar and former NLUO VC this makes sense). However, we understand that no formal decision has been made yet on that front.

Regarding the scrapping of the shortlist, we had also heard this from a source but this had again been contradicted by a second source (though it remains an option after the 23rd meeting).

Hope that clarifies...
Chamcha 8 Jul 2019, 01:22
+1 -0
How can you say it would not be recorded as such in minutes? Anything to the contrary, if the EC had decided to scrap the list, would be manipulation of minutes.
Erroneous Reporting 7 Jul 2019, 18:31
+2 -1
The Bar and Bench report has got some facts wrong. In that sense, it is better that Kian Ganz is waiting for corroboration of what happened inside the NLSIU EC on July 6, 2019. I have directly heard from at least two attendees at the meeting. When the discussion on the Vice-Chancellor appointment was taken up, Justice Uday Umesh Lalit came out strongly in support of the High-Level Committee's recommendations which had placed Sudhir Krishnaswamy's name first, Shashikala Gurpur second and Srikrishna Deva Rao third. When the floor was opened for discussion, the faculty representatives raised some objections. One was about the applicant pool being limited to people below 60 years of age as opposed to the norm of 65 years. This can be easily answered by clarifying that the NLSIU Service Regulations contemplate a common age of retirement for the Vice-Chancellors and Professors, which is 65 years. Hence, it is rational to only consider applicants below the age of 60 years so that they can serve at least one full-term.

After this, some members raised pointed objections against Sudhir Krishnaswamy and Shashikala Gurpur. As described in one of the comments below, questions were asked about Sudhir's direct appointment as Professor at NUJS in February 2009 and Shashikala Gurpur's suitability for the role was also indirectly questioned. Given these objections, the internal faculty representatives argued that they did not have sufficient knowledge of the present capacities of the three candidates. Thereafter, the EC resolved to set-up another sub-committee to interview the 3 shortlisted candidates again in New Delhi on July 23, 2019. This is an unprecedented step, since it amounts to re-examining the High-Level Committee's recommendations. It remains to be seen whether the CJI will accept such a broad exercise of powers by the NLSIU Executive Council (EC). Given that Senior SC Judges such as Justice S.A. Bobde and Justice U.U. Lalit were in attendance, we cannot reasonably predict what might happen next.
Guest 6 Jul 2019, 16:33
+2 -0
In the meantime, the Congress-JDS govt is falling and BJP will take over. So new members likely in EC. BJP is also unlikely to impose domicile quota.
@Guest23 7 Jul 2019, 15:31
+2 -0
How do you know all this? Are you a soothsayer? These demands are same throughtout india irrespective of political parties.
Patrakar 6 Jul 2019, 18:04
+13 -0
Update from what happened today: the anti-Sudhir lobby said the ad for VC itself was flawed as those above 60 years were banned. Other NLUs have the limit at 65 and even that is given as a "preferable" limit. Thus, the whole selection process can be challenged. There was also a view expressed that Symbiosis is a private law school that is poorly regarded. Furthermore, some argued that MP Singh promoted Sudhir wrongly from Assistant Prof directly to Professor, without 6-7 years as Associate professor, and it was also not clear if Sudhir had 10 years as a professor. The EC then said the ad will be reissued with 65 as a "soft limit".

Sudhir, Gurpur and Rao will probably all reapply, but a few new entrants above 60 may come in, such as:

- Ved Kumari and Kamala Shankaran (DU background, well known and respected in Delhi circles)
- VC Vivekanandan (non-threatening to the establishment and technically an alum)
- Bharat Desai of JNU (impressive CV, but may not want to leave JNU)
- Some NLSIU profs themselves

This will make things a bit hard for Sudhir and he may not make the top 3 shortlist.
Guest 7 Jul 2019, 04:00
+3 -0
VCV will be a good choice.
Guest 7 Jul 2019, 04:55
+2 -0
Let me tell you the UGC rules about professorship. An assistant professor can get promoted to associate professorship in 12 years and to professorship in another 3 years. Alternatively, he can apply for associate professorship/professorship directly when a position is vacant provided he has put in 8/10 years already. So nobody has to be associate professor for 5-6 years before becoming a professor. The main issues about Sudhir would be whether he had 10 or even 8 years of experience when MP Singh made him a professor (for which he would have to start at around 24 or 26, which is probably not possible, since he started teaching in India full time only after getting his doctorate) and whether since his resignation from NUJS, he has been continuously working in his capacity as a full time professor in an educational institute so as to fulfil the criterion of having been a professor for 10 years in order to become a VC (which he probably has been).
@Guest11 7 Jul 2019, 15:34
+1 -0
My teacher started law teaching in 2011 ,now he is associate prof and HoD. so you need to recheck the latest rules and exceptions in them .
Guest 7 Jul 2019, 16:50
+3 -0
If he started in 2011, then he's eligible to have applied in 2019 for Associate Professor on open selection (even internal candidates can apply for it when there's a vacancy) provided he's finished his PhD meanwhile. That's the UGC rule. Some NLU VCs like Prof. MP Singh have been known to play fast and loose with those rules purportedly for the overall institutional benefit, using their discretionary power to relax minimum eligibility requirements, since the top NLUs didn't really use to care about UGC rules much even 6-7 years before. I'm not opining whether that's right or wrong, just reporting facts. The only loophole in the rules is that certain kind of academic research experience approved by the UGC can be shown for years of experience too, like Research Associate positions.
Guest 7 Jul 2019, 04:10
+3 -0
The names of Anurag Agarwal (IIMA), VK Unni (IIMC) and Bharat Desai (JNU) have come up before, but who will leave a pampered central university for an underfunded state run one? At best they can follow BS Chimni, who took leave from JNU to head NUJS for 3 years and then returned to JNU, but the EC will not want this and require a longer commitment. I would bet on Nagaraj, Mahesh, Ramakrishna, Ved Kumari, Kamala Sankaran, Manoj Sinha or VC Vivekanandan.
Guest 7 Jul 2019, 05:32
+2 -0
Kian, I am surprised that you are not reporting on the campus protests.
Guest 7 Jul 2019, 06:07
+8 -1
Maybe Shamnad Basheer could apply? He is quite ambitious and kept his academic CV active after leaving NUJS, through an honorary professorship at Nirma.
Guest 7 Jul 2019, 06:46
+1 -0
He's at Penn U now for over a year. Doubt he'd even apply.
legalese2 7 Jul 2019, 09:46
+16 -0
From what I hear, his health has been quite bad. And he's too committed to IDIA now. So not likely to apply. Else, he would made an excellent choice. Impressive academic credentials, visionary and a very good leader.
student guest 9 Jul 2019, 07:23
+7 -1
Prof Basheer is a wonderful human being! Has his heart in the right place and brings out the best in people. I was his student and found him to be one of the most lively and innovative teachers. A very committed institution builder too. See what he has done with IDIA in this short time. Pity about his health though. Guess this is god's way of not giving it all to one person!
Guest 7 Jul 2019, 06:11
+3 -5
Ignore rumours. Sudhir is still very much the overwhelming favourite, if not a certainty. The bigwigs in the EC are behind him and the small-minded nobodies have no real power. Sudhir WILL be the VC, so chill.
Guest 7 Jul 2019, 06:49
+4 -0
Why do you keep saying that? If things were that easy and simple, then why on earth isn't he the VC yet despite almost 8 months having passed since the opening announcement?
Hah! 8 Jul 2019, 12:27
+1 -0
Sudhir has excellent credentials but nowhere near enough pull. Dr. Kala was the EC favourite but now I'm hearing additional names are being added to the search committee's list. Sudhir does [b]not[/b] have the job in the bag, no matter what diehards claim on this site.
Guest 7 Jul 2019, 09:40
+2 -0
The secrecy and lack of inside information is annoying. On top of that LI and Bar & Bench are speaking to different sources and giving contradictory leaks. We want to know if Sudhir is ruled out or not!
Guest 5 7 Jul 2019, 09:46
+6 -0
After professor NL Mitra, NLS has struggled to find a good VC.
Guest 7 Jul 2019, 11:49
+1 -3
You fools, this is all related to the ongoing political crisis and impending establishment of a BJP govt. Sudhir is a left-leaning intellectual and unacceptable to the BJP. Manan Mishra is a BJP member and will seek a pro-BJP person.
Guest 7 Jul 2019, 12:24
+3 -0
When has Sudhir openly criticised the current government? There are several others in the legal scholar community who do so, like Prabhash, Shamnad etc. Sudhir isn't one of them.
guest1 7 Jul 2019, 14:52
+2 -0
Well he did write an opinion editorial for the New York Times titled "Mr. Modi Please Dont Patent Cow Urine" which critiqued the Modi governments IPR policy. So it would be inaccurate to say he hasnt taken public political stances.
Guest 7 Jul 2019, 17:00
+1 -0
Didn't know that, thanks for pointing it out. I'd have thought such a piece would be highlighted by Indian media more compared to NYT though in terms of sheer relevance!
Chamcha 8 Jul 2019, 01:36
+3 -3
Shows the depth of knowledge and understanding in IPR an NLSIU graduate and Oxford alumni, a Rhodes scholar to boot, could possess.
What? 8 Jul 2019, 14:26
+1 -1
Yeah - you can assume that it wasn’t a well written article - or you could read it to understand how the Modi government with its unscientific and dogmatic views was harming India’s interests with its IPR policy. Your choice
Chamcha 8 Jul 2019, 19:44
+3 -2
What has scientific view got to do with award of patent? Where is the human intervention in urine, human or cow for it to be patented. Known uses of cow urine can be classified as traditional knowledge to prevent someone claiming exclusivity. Anyway Indian patent regime is far more rigorous than the US one. Classification as traditional knowledge is to prevent future appropriation.
Indicates who funded the Columbia trips and for what. Intellectual dishonesty and on top of it we are dealing with an intellectual dwarf.
IPR Girl 9 Jul 2019, 05:13
+5 -1
Just read the NY Times opinion by Sudhir. Lazy writing and searches hard to find a devil in the Indian government's policy (when there is none). To be clear, there is no inconsistency between having a tough patentability threshold, granting fewer patents and the government seeking to patent what it perceives as TK, IPR. Hard to understand why Mr. Rhodes Scholar is getting so angsty about. A classic case of an academic manufacturing an imaginary enemy to rail against. No wonder Shamnad (a more incisive IPR scholar) has nothing to say on this issue, despite no love lost for the same government. Ironically the likes of Sudhir will write such opinions yet bemoan the fact that TK like turmeric, herbs are lost to MNCs because the Indian government did not protect them in time.
Guest 9 Jul 2019, 06:47
+1 -1
Correct. You cannot patent merely cow urine as it occurs naturally. If Sudhir has indeed said that, I am shocked that an NLSIU-Oxford graduate can make such an elementary mistake.
Oh wow! 9 Jul 2019, 15:21
+0 -1
Talk about missing the forest for the trees!
Clearly by that article Sudhir didn’t mean to argue that Modi was personally trying to patent cow urine! If this is the level of reading comprehension perhaps Sudhir is better off at APU!
The argument clearly is that India’s rigorous parenting regime which has done this country and the global south a lot of good is being undermined by political bull crap from the ruling party. Sorry to burst any bubbles but cow urine doesn’t cure cancer- or any of the other diseases it claims to. And spending taxpayer money on researching and protecting cow urine is unconscionable and it undermines what is otherwise a standard IPR policy that has been in written and rewritten by both congress and bjp governments. Sudhir is speaking truth to power hear and you would hear it if you could critically examine claims of “Hindu science”

Nowhere in the article does he say that the actual parenting standards need to be lowered - to the contrary he applauds India’s parenting policy (from before Modi came to power) for making life saving medicines accessible to the global south. Half baked knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Let’s not resort to calling people intellectual dwarfs at least until we have proven ourselves comparable scholars. This kind of bullshit is why the country is going to dwarves. I’m sure there would be less opprobrium from that section if Ramdev or sadhguru were to become the VC instead. Cause they’re such scholars.
Guest 9 Jul 2019, 16:07
+0 -0
@Oh Wow: Bhai, let it go. It's obvious the guy didn't even bother reading the actual piece, let alone try comprehending it.
Guest 7 Jul 2019, 18:08
+1 -0
Amidst this BJP-Cong talk, it is interesting to note that Ishwara Bhat has been speaking at ABVP events and is generally known to be a religious, conservative guy. Imagine if the BJP gets him appointed to NLSIU!
monday 8 Jul 2019, 07:15
+2 -0
Bro, law universities are mainly run by HC/SC judges. They are either Chancellor/Visitor or both. Even the composition of Executive Councils of these Nlu will hardly have 1-2politician as representative mostly Minister of Higher Education/Law of the state. Though Law universities are state universities they are not governed by your typical Govt. Univ structure. Ofcourse there are exceptio s check Lucknow and Sonipat
Guest 8 Jul 2019, 10:55
+0 -5
Good news for NLSIU: JDS collapsing tonight and BJP set to return to power. The BJP has a track record in investing more money in universities and a nationalist vision (as opposed to the populist regional vision of JDS). This can be seen in Modi's emphasis on rankings and increased budget allocation for education. NLSIU may nougat INI status, even Eminence status.
Guest 8 Jul 2019, 12:32
+5 -2
Which university has ever been given a greater amount of money (adjusting for inflation) under the BJP Rule exactly? On the contrary, hundreds of fellowships and research schemes have been cancelled. The government even proposes to only fund research projects that's acceptable to the powers-that-be. During its last five years, what exactly has the central government notably done for education, let alone legal education, barring awarding greenfield IOE status to non-existing Jio university? No government would ever go against domicile policies etc. if it plans to retain state level power. Education implies questioning. Government doesn't want the public to question its policies, plain and simple.
NLSIU Alumnus 1995 8 Jul 2019, 13:40
+5 -1
We need to recognise what is going on here. This is not just any other Vice-Chancellor appointment. The institution is at the cusp of a generational change in leadership. However, a few Senior Professors simply do not want to work under a former student/junior colleague. To add to the complications, the outgoing VC Prof. R. Venkat Rao has retained a large number of younger teachers in ad-hoc positions and understandably most of them fear for their jobs under a new Vice-Chancellor. Perhaps that is why many existing faculty members at NLSIU would prefer a status quoist candidate like Srikrishna Deva Rao who is known to be mild and non-confrontational in his approach.

At this stage, we can only appeal to the long-term interests of the institution as the SBA has done in its statement released a few days ago. Sudhir Krishnaswamy is by the far the best candidate among the three shortlisted names, especially in terms of his own academic qualifications, teaching ability and published scholarship. As mentioned above, he has now accumulated significant institution-building experience at the Azim Premji University. Hence, there is no surprise in learning that the High-Level Committee consisting of Prof. Mahendra Pal Singh, Mr. K.K. Venugopal and Mr. Arvind Datar had put Sudhir's name on top in their list of recommendations.

Ordinarily, the Executive Council (EC) chooses one of the three recommended names. If it has serious objections against all the candidates, then those reasons need to be communicated back to the Chancellor (Chief Justice of India in the case of NLSIU). This step of setting up another sub-committee to interview the three shortlisted candidates again (on July 23, 2019) is without precedent and highly irregular. It also directly undermines the role of the High-Level Committee which had interviewed the candidates earlier (on May 8, 2019). It could possibly lead to litigation from the candidates who miss the bus. We hope that the SC Judges in the NLSIU Executive Council take note of this point and stand by the recommendations of the High-Level Committee.
Guest 8 Jul 2019, 19:52
+5 -2
A very good and sensible post. I agree that the old generation resents Sudhir because of jealousy and insecurity. Same reason why Shamnad faced hostility. Unfortunately, this hostility towards young alumni is pushing people towards NLUD, Azim Premji and Jindal. Teaching at Jindal is a loss for the faculty as they have to teach students of lower quality and a loss for NLU students as they lose good faculty
Guest 9 Jul 2019, 05:30
+2 -0
They heady days of NLUD being a welcoming place for NLU alum are over unfortunately. As RS comes to the end of his term and his power declines, and the traditional university faculty get more entrenched, it has become difficult for the university to recruit NLU alum. So many people wanted to follow the footsteps of the first set of NLU alum that joined nlud, but the university administration has become so wary because of incessant troublemaking by people within the faculty, that they have turned all these people away or offered them very junior positions. Most have gone on to Jindal or Azim Premji. They are now going after the existing NLU alum faculty, and already their efforts are bearing fruit. Let's see whether the next VC can turn things around, but RS seems to have given up and just wait out his time till retirement.
TSB 9 Jul 2019, 14:12
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It's not just the old generation. In fact many of Sudhir's fellow NLS alumni currently teaching at NLS would not want to see him there as they consider him as a maverick who received undue favours from MPS and outshines them all. That actually embodies a fundamental fact of NLU alumni in teaching profession. On one hand are those who followed the traditional approach parroting the same BS for years becoming part of the system, and ticking off the UGC requirements one by one. Then you have Sudhir, Shamnad who are also practitioners, refused to toe the insider line and stuck to their guns. There is no way the first category of NLU teachers will want the likes of Sudhir or Shamnad to enter NLUs, much less become a VC
Guest 9 Jul 2019, 14:41
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Sudhir has industry experience? Any further details about that? I know Shamnad had worked for Anand and is still consulted by multiple clients with IP issues.
NLS 9 Jul 2019, 15:44
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Most fellow NLS alumni who are currently teaching would support Sudhir (or for that matter anyone else) who has a vision.
TSB 10 Jul 2019, 15:39
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NLS alumni in other law schools support Sudhir. The ones at NLS I doubt they really want him. I bet they will cite some UGC rule or the other to keep him out
Guest 11 Jul 2019, 00:56
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This TSB fellow appears to be a highly jobless troll, who keeps commenting on multiple posts spreading misinformation and hate and claiming to know insider information about multiple NLUs.
Blabla 11 Jul 2019, 06:08
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Actually the post by TSB draws attention to a very relevant point, that many EC members have put the spotlight on Sudhir's technical lack of UGC requirements. Not only is the promotion to Professor by MP Singh very questionable (as per rules only, on merit Sudhir is a rock star) but Sudhir's doctorate degree has not been evaluated by the Association of Indian Universities for equivalence with Indian PhD degree. That is a critical step without which Sudhir's CV lacks the minimum qualification to be VC. Under UGC norms foreign doctorate holders are NOT automatically at par with Indian doctorates.
Guest 11 Jul 2019, 07:25
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Is this true? If so, none of the foreign doctorate holders are qualified to be teaching (at Associate Prof level and up) in public universities, right? On my count, that includes Shamnad Basheer (though he is not teaching at a public university at the moment) Rahul Singh, Mrinal Satish, Aparna Chandra, Sidharth Chauhan, Anup Surendranath, Arul Scaria. Anyone else? Do UGC rules apply to South Asian University? If so, Prabhash Ranjan. If the EC takes this interpretation then all their jobs will be in jeopardy. Wow! (Also the Jindal VC will rub his hands in glee...)
Blabla 11 Jul 2019, 12:18
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Yes, it is a badly kept secret. For many of those with such degrees who are currently teaching atm they may well face this issue when it comes to competition for senior positions when a writ can be filed (already Mrinal Satish is facing this). I do not support this but that is the dark underbelly of Indian academic service. AIU equivalence is the official requirement as per UGC itself.
Guest 11 Jul 2019, 16:17
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Stop spreading fake news! The govt has passed a law saying that if you have a PhD from a foreign university ranked in the world's top 500 then you do not need to pass UGC NET, equivalence requirements etc. Questions can only be raised if you do a PhD from a foreign university not in the world's top 500 (I am struggling to think of examples).

http://www.pib.nic.in/Pressreleaseshare.aspx?PRID=1541801
NLS 11 Jul 2019, 11:53
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In spite of your relentless (trolling) efforts, NLS alumni at ‘the law school’ fully stand in solidarity with Sudhir.
Guest 9 Jul 2019, 14:45
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AP's biggest issue is that it doesn't have an undergrad law programme yet, only postgrad ones. Teaching the younger kids can be really fun and a very rewarding experience!
Guest 9 Jul 2019, 17:57
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I think it's very simplistic and convenient to say that ineffective admin or jealous faculty colleagues are keeping people like Sudhir away from NLUs. If this firecracker pelting story is true (can someone confirm? And was any action taken against the students?) then we need to look at the role of students in driving away good faculty. I am not from NUJS, so wasnt aware of this history. I assumed that Sudhir was part of the exodus that took place because of Bhat. But now it appears that he left because of students? I've also heard from many law schools that students are attacking otherwise good faculty (or are being weaponized to do so) for not meeting technical UGC requirements. If this is indeed the case, then I am sorry but students are as much, if not a bigger part, of the problem, as compared to the VC or faculty in NLUs. Time we looked within.
Guest 10 Jul 2019, 01:50
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The firecracker thing is being shown here blown out of proportions. I was a student at NUJS when it happened. Sudhir taught us. Wasn't very happy with his teaching and some other things, but can't complain about his fairness or evaluation or knowledge of the subject. All of those were sound enough. This was a prank committed by one or two unknown idiots who had lobbed a single firecracker into his room while he was not inside. I doubt whether they even figured out it was his room while doing so. Nobody got caught, otherwise action would certainly have been taken against them. That's it. Sudhir didn't seem to have any particular issue with the students as such. Bulk of them could appreciate the asset he was and could turn into for the university and he was actually visibly improving even during his short time here as more and more responsibilities were entrusted to him. His leaving the place was unfortunate and mostly to do with admin issues I believe. However, I do agree with you generally about students playing a significant role these days in such events. But I don't think that was how it was during Sudhir's departure.
Request 9 Jul 2019, 06:59
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Kian, you have been silent on the many discussions regarding NLU alumni faculty and the latest post alleging that even NLUD may become hostile to hiring alumni once Ranbir Singh leaves. I hope you understand this is a very important issue and write a well-researched report on it. The following needs to be verified by an impartial website like LI:

- Is it correct that some NLUs are hostile towards hiring young alumni as faculty? Is there a "traditional lobby" that does not welcome such people as faculty?

- Does this hostility also extend to NLU alumni teaching short courses as guest lecturers?

- Do the NLU alumni faculty currently teaching find themselves being discriminated against, such as large teaching workloads, hostility from older colleagues etc?

- Is is true that all NLU alumni join JGLS purely for money, as is commonly alleged? Or could there be other reasons like academic freedom and support from admin?
StarryBucks 9 Jul 2019, 12:55
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Close to 90% of NLU faculty teachers are directly or indirectly hostile to any NLU alum who joins their ranks whether to teach a short course or long course. This includes the few NLU alum who are already employed by the NLUs. The latter are usually mediocre students and are threatened by smarter peers / juniors / seniors coming to their law schools, sometimes with excellent CVs and experience. No wonder they sabotage such short courses whenever they get the chance, pass snide remarks and try their best to prevent NLU alum from joining. The VCs with exception of ppl like MP Singh and Faizan are also happy to oblige as they prefer to keep the faculty happy and not upset status quo.
Darkseid 9 Jul 2019, 14:34
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Wouldn't disagree with StarryBucks entirely. There are a rare handful NLU alumni who are currently working at NLUs now and who actually want and encourage other alumni to join and help improve the situation from within, but most of these people are too junior to have much of a say in the decision-making process. Majority (NLU alumni or not) behave the way StarryBucks mentioned. Same works with short courses. Another recent addition is the inexplicable inclination of students towards UGC Rules. In my time, we would have been overjoyed to see people with industry coming over and teaching us, with nary a care about their UGC credentials. Just happy to be taught and right and good stuff for a change. Even the students who wouldn't attend regular classes would turn up for those. Nowadays, extra attendance needs to be promised to students to even turn up for lectures given by outsiders including NLU alumni. The bulk of the students appear distinctly uninterested regardless of how relevant or well-designed a course is. Combined with institutional apathy and the jealousy and sabotage mentioned before, this acts as a fairly big discouraging factor.
Discrimination bit is also true. Mostly resulting from same jealousy, administrative efforts to please the old-timers etc. One of my friends just ended up quitting an NLU for that very reason.
As for JGLS, the money is definitely a point of attraction, but the additional incentives for research including monetary consideration for SCOPUS publication, greater funds etc. don't hurt either. That doesn't mean JGLS faculty are all top quality. Plenty of bad apples are there too, armed with a foreign degree and little else. But there are some very good people down there too, including NLU alum.
Bystander 11 Jul 2019, 13:31
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@Darkseid, You know quite a lot of the NLU system. Are you a current faculty or student? I have just finished my LLB from NLUJ and am looking to become a teacher but there are so many stories coming out from NLUS (mostly RNLU, NUJS and RGNLU) about how teachrs are being targeted and assaulted by students there. Would want to read more of your opinions more about why the existing techers are so hostile.
Darkseid 11 Jul 2019, 15:47
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@Bystander: Neither at present, although I have graduated from an NLU and have occasionally offered a credit course or two at some too. I am close friends with several faculty members from several NLUs and private law universities though, some of whom are NLU alum too and my job requires me to be in touch with several NLU students on a regular basis. Most of what I am aware of, I pick up from them.
Regarding your point about existing teachers' hostility, I won't presume to generalise or cast negative aspersion on the lot, but it's like StarryBucks mentioned before. Senior faculty in law schools on getting entrenched, can become quite power-hungry. A lot of them tend to perceive young and bright NLU alum desirous of joining academia as threats to their power base and are too set in their own ways to respond favourably to the changes these new people may try to bring. Of course, even young non-NLU alum can bring in such changes, but usually NLU alum are familiar with the system already, so they can figure out the problem areas sooner than others. Especially those alum who join their own alma mater. They either are expected to join existing coteries or at least pay homage to one, unless they are so incompetent (and some NLU alum actually are when it comes to teaching, just like non-NLU alum) that they aren't seen as a threat at all. The alum also tend to be more outspoken when it comes to protesting against the existing high-handedness or general inefficiency prevailing in most of the NLUs administratively and that's also a source of concern for many people who have grown accustomed to less work, shoddy performance and relatively good salary.
Guest 9 Jul 2019, 07:16
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Friends, I wish to share some news that has been censored by LI and Bar & Bench so as not to embarrass NLSIU. The news is that there were protests and slogan shouting on campus. I am sharing links and photos from other news websites. It is important that the public know this, because LI and Bar & Bench are happy to publish news about protests at other NLUs and portray them as chaotic institutions, but NLSIU is somehow a holy cow. This hypocrisy from LI and Bar & Bench must stop.

[img]https://www.newsclick.in/sites/default/files/2019-07/NLUB%20protest.jpg[/img]
https://www.newsclick.in/Bengaluru-National-Law-University-Protest-25%25-Fee-Hike

[img]https://images.indianexpress.com/2019/07/nlsiu-students-protest-fee-hike-college-july-6-759.jpeg[/img]
https://indianexpress.com/article/education/bengalurus-national-law-school-students-protest-steep-fee-hike-decide-not-to-pay-fee-5818726/

https://www.deccanherald.com/sites/dh/files/styles/article_detail/public/article_images/2019/07/07/file763pny8gtj719jkfsj7p-1562477196.jpg?itok=cKhb6Afq

[img]https://images.assettype.com/thequint%2F2019-07%2F5307b06b-fb0f-411f-8f7a-b22990b1af6e%2FWhatsApp_Image_2019_07_06_at_2_24_12_PM.jpeg [/img]
https://www.thequint.com/news/india/nlsiu-students-protest-25-percent-fee-hike
Fact Check 9 Jul 2019, 15:15
+0 -0
As someone who was present there, I can assure you there wasn't any sloganeering. Plus, it wasn't a protest but only a silent stand of solidarity to show the EC how gravely the student body has been affected by the fee hike.
Guest 9 Jul 2019, 16:04
+1 -0
Why would a peaceful show of protest by law students against an admin decision that affects them adversely reflect badly on the institution anyway? Our parliamentarians engage in hooliganism inside the parliament when their allowances are not increased!
Babbar 10 Jul 2019, 04:20
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The protests were peaceful and organized.everyone sat or stood quietly and did not create a ruckus. If you're trying to equate this with the videos of NLIU Ranchi or WBNUJS Kolkata students screaming or throwing slogans during some protest last year then sorry to disappoint you but that didn't happen.
Guest 9 Jul 2019, 13:40
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Sasikala Gurpur is the only Kannadiga from the 3 names. Maybe she will win?
Guest 9 Jul 2019, 14:53
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I just saw that Dr. Krishnaswamy is also the founder of CLPR and a partner at Ashira Law. Which is making me wonder, is there a loophole in the existing BCI regulations that allow him to be so while working as a full-time faculty member at a law school (APU in this case)? This is an honest question, I have got absolutely no issue with him working on multiple fronts. In fact, that's actually a better scene, as the US examples prove. Would appreciate any insight from those who know about this matter. I believe Dr. Basheer has recently sought leave for similar matter from the BCI in an application for all legal academics?
Guest 10 Jul 2019, 03:39
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See what Rao has told the media:

[b]NLSIU is all-inclusive institution: Prof R Venkata Rao [/b]

[i]“Our two-year programme on public policy has been hailed as better than Harvard Kennedy school.
[/i]

This is how NLSIU earned the "Harvard of the East" tag... the gave it to themselves!

https://www.deccanherald.com/state/nlsiu-is-all-inclusive-institution-prof-r-venkata-rao-745885.html
Guest 10 Jul 2019, 08:29
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This just in: there is a divide in the EC between two options:

1. Readvertisment of VC position with 65 as age limit
Arguments for: followed by other NLUs, under 60 limit narrows pool, may be challenged legally
Arguments against: Young blood is good, readvertising will be a lot of effort and also make NLSIU look bad.

2. Confirm search committee's recommendation of Sudhir
Arguments for: will not disrupt the process, Sudhir is the best possibly candidate anyway.
Arguments against: Sudhir has less work experience, unprecedented for a person below 50 to be VC, questions over eligibility in view of MP Singh's fast track promotion.

One of these options will be decided.
Erroneous Reporting 10 Jul 2019, 19:29
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Kindly stop spreading disinformation. As things stand, the position is not going to be re-advertised. All the three shortlisted candidates, namely (1) Sudhir Krishnaswamy, (2) Shashikala Gurpur and (3) Srikrishna Deva Rao, have been asked to attend a second round of interviews before a selected group of NLSIU Executive Council (EC) members in New Delhi on July 23, 2019. Since the High-Level Committee has put Sudhir Krishnaswamy's name on top, it will now be very difficult for the EC to disregard their recommendations.
Blabla 11 Jul 2019, 05:12
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Does this mean Sudhir will be interviewed by Sarasu and Rahul Singh (who are on the EC). Wont that be a bit embarrassing for Sudhir since he is senior to them both and also a more eminent scholar? Its a bad move to ask the EC to interview him further. The only thing worse than this is to ask Sudhir and the other candidates to appear before a panel of SBA office bearers.
Erroneous Reporting 11 Jul 2019, 08:04
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Dr. Sarasu Thomas and Dr. Rahul Singh are not in the NLSIU EC this year. The internal faculty representatives are Dr. V.S. Elizabeth, Ashok Patil and A. Nagarathna in addition to the incumbent VC and Registrar. The sub-committee appointed by the EC is likely to have representation from all the stakeholders, namely Judges, Bar Councils, State Government and Internal Faculty. The word is that V.S. Elizabeth (being the senior-most faculty representative in the EC) will be part of this sub-committee that will interview the three shortlisted candidates again.
Guest 11 Jul 2019, 13:35
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A faculty member is going to interview their potential next boss? How's that even regular?
Guest 17 Jul 2019, 10:38
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It is as simple as students interviewing a faculty for his/her appointment
Guest 18 Jul 2019, 03:34
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And that's irregular too. Students can at best ask for demo lectures to provide feedback on the faculty, that's all.
Guest 10 Jul 2019, 21:15
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[img]https://mrunal.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/cse15-air462-chandan-pandey.jpg[/img]

[quote]My primary reason to enter into the field of competitive exams is to get a government job so that I can have a secure career and an opportunity to give it back to the society.
[/quote]


https://mrunal.org/2016/05/upsc-topper-chandan-law-optional-patna-bihar.html
Guest 11 Jul 2019, 05:46
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Sudhir WILL be the VC. The EC CANNOT overrule the high-level committee. The position will NOT be readvertised. Bar & Bench is spreading fake news planted by reactionary admin members.
News source 11 Jul 2019, 06:43
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The political developments in Karnataka will directly impact the VC appointment. If the BJP comes to power by Monday or so, there will be enough time for them to interfere and see that Congress/left sympathisers in the shortlist are removed and a pro-BJP person in the list is appointed.
Guest 11 Jul 2019, 09:03
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Everyone, keep your eyes glued to the TV to see how quickly the Karnataka govt falls and who the new law minister is. This will hold the key, and may see a peculiar alliance of convenience involving a secular feminist and an RSS person.
Guest 11 Jul 2019, 16:09
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Kian, please stop these "my faculty is better than your faculty" NLU fights. The best way to put an end to it is to make it clear who is teaching at which NLU.
Guest 11 Jul 2019, 16:30
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I agree with you about the need to stop this senseless bickering. However, anonymous commentators on LI seem to take a particularly perverse pleasure out of badmouthing teachers, whether from their own NLUs or others. Passing negative comments at another person when the latter isn't around to defend themselves is always a tasteless action. To be fair though, your suggestion while certainly a start, may not be foolproof either, since there's no way anyone else other than students taught by a certain faculty can gauge how good a teacher that person is. Publication record etc. can reveal god research capability, which is only a part of being a good teacher, though not a necessary one. That's the only part that can at present be objectively determined. And if a student cannot use official channels to provide feedback to a faculty while remaining a student, the least he can do while dishing out such criticism after graduation is to reveal his identity. Otherwise nobody having a good taste ought to take such 'comments' seriously as it's perfectly possible for one student to have a grudge against one or more faculty.
Arbitrator 11 Jul 2019, 18:34
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The faculty arguments can be resolved if an objective source compiles the faculty info. It should be based on NIRF and the official university websites ONLY, but the same can be vetted by the university student body presidents.
Guest 12 Jul 2019, 07:57
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Is it possible to find out the full list of people who applied for NLSIU and NUJS VC and their full CVs, or least the list of publications?
Fake News 12 Jul 2019, 07:57
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Most people posting here have agendas and are peddling fake news to push their candidate of choice. LI and Bar & Bench are also being fed fake news by people with agendas.
Guest 21 Jul 2019, 08:48
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The SBA is exchanging tweets with Bengaluru South BJP MP Tejasvi Surya, who opposed the fee hike. They have invited him to campus. Tejasvi is a law grad himself.

https://twitter.com/SBAnlsiu/status/1151434631687761920

Other NLUs should follow NLSIU and similarly invite their local BJP MPs.
Guest 23 Jul 2019, 06:04
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Any updates? Will the impending fall of the Congress govt have an impact?
Guest 23 Jul 2019, 22:44
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https://theleaflet.in/nlsui-llm-2018-batch-students-allege-loss-of-job-opportunities-as-university-delays-exam-results/#
Conspiracy Theories 24 Jul 2019, 21:45
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https://barandbench.com/student-protests-nlu-odisha-maladministration-fee-hike/

You know what this means? Was it organic, manufactured or instigated or all of the three?

https://theleaflet.in/nlsui-llm-2018-batch-students-allege-loss-of-job-opportunities-as-university-delays-exam-results/#

Will someone still get a smooth exit? What about the others who allowed such a situation to precipitate? Will new blood necessarily change things?
Erroneous Reporting 25 Jul 2019, 06:55
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It is done. Sudhir Krishnaswamy has been recommended for the NLS VC position. A second panel consisting of Justice S.A. Bobde, Justice Shantanagoudar and Retired Justice Gopal Gowda has endorsed the High-Level Committee's recommendations. The appointment order may only be issued in August since NLSIU EC members have to formally communicate their recommendation to the various stakeholders. All our speculation can end now.
Guest 25 Jul 2019, 08:45
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Kian can u confirm this? Your website seems dead for the past couple of weeks.
kianganz 26 Jul 2019, 13:09
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Sorry, on a bit of a summer break at the moment so it's been a bit slow...

Have not been able to authoritatively confirm new VC yet from multiple sources, but the committee did meet candidates and it's possible has recommended something.
Kian MIA 27 Jul 2019, 20:23
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96 hours and nothing from Kian https://www.livemint.com/news/india/national-law-university-odisha-students-continue-protest-for-fourth-straight-day-1564237699464.html

Yes, everyone deserves a break. But is Kian telling us that LI is now a single-person outfit? That's not a great business model. You found time to "break" a random story on some law firm fellow but nothing about the s**t going down at NLUO?

Do you even know that this completely scuppered the chances of KDR and SK is pretty much a done deal now? Worse KDR who is pretty much over at NLUO is now out of NLUD race and may not even find place in HNLU and CNLU? Maybe MNLU Aurangabad by a long shot.

If SK makes it NLSIU, expect major changes in the VC play a NLUD. There is a good chance it will also go to a young Turk unless RK intervenes on behalf of GSB since PJ is pretty much out. PJ is actually stuck and may continue at RGNUL. The students squandered their opportunity to evict PJ.

If young Turks take over NLSIU and NLUD, the new VC at NUJS may have the same lifetime as the state govt there since he is rumoured to have started the old ways of returning and currying favours.
Who dem turks? 28 Jul 2019, 08:47
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Out of curiosity, who are these Young Turks exactly? For instance, which Young Turk is in contention (informally, or otherwise) for NLUD?
Guest 28 Jul 2019, 15:00
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Sudhir is a done deal at nlsiu. Calls have been made. Everyone has been informed. Everyone knows. If Kian really doesn't have any confirmation at this point, he should think hard about his news sourcing policy.
I am also interested in knowing which Young Turk is in contention for NLUD? I thought no one except Sudhir was qualified to become a VC? Now that the NLS VCship is settled NLUD will be a play between FM (NALSAR) and SKD (NLUO). It'll be one or the other. SKD will definitely apply. FM might. Dark horse will be some professor from DU. These DU people have a lot of connections with judges and people in government. It won't be Ved Kumari because of her health don't think she will apply. Whoever it is, it won't be any Young Turk for sure.
Guest of Guest 29 Jul 2019, 03:12
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Shamnad is definitely eligible right, for NLUD? Especially if their search-committee follows what NLS did and sets it at 10 years experience as professor and under 60?
Guest 29 Jul 2019, 08:43
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No. He hasn't been a professor formally for ten years unlike Sudhir. He only has had visiting positions following his stint at NUJS. He also suffers from multiple health issues unfortunately, otherwise he might have been a good candidate for the position.
Guest 29 Jul 2019, 04:28
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Yes, LI is operated by 1 person.
Guest 29 Jul 2019, 04:26
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Is LI closing down? For the past couple of weeks it has done only 3 or 4 stories, while Bar & Bench and LiveLaw do 6-7 stories a day. There are so many stories LI has missed, which are easy to report as mainstream media has reported them:

1. #NationaliseNLUs discussed in Parliament
2. Sudhir next NLSIU VC
3. New developments on NLSIU domicile quota
4. NLUO protests
Guest 29 Jul 2019, 14:35
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Mainstream media have reported Sudhir having been selected as the NLSIU VC? When and where? I thought the official communication is yet to take place?
Guest 3 Aug 2019, 19:12
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Sharing a public Facebook post by Prof VS Elizabeth

https://www.facebook.com/vselizabeth

[quote]Today, God willing, is the beginning of a new phase in the history of NLSIU. Prof. Venkat Rao has handed over charge to Prof. M.K. Ramesh as the Full-time additional Charge Vice Chancellor. However, long or short this tenure might be I hope it is the harbinger of things to come. We, as faculty, welcome Prof. Ramesh. Hopefully, it will restore for however, short a period it might be the character of NLSIU as a faculty run institution which was undermined over the last fifteen years, so much so that neither the students nor the university governing bodies understand the role that the faculty played in making NLSIU what it is today. So it is a good day and the sun actually came out after a long time in Bangalore.
[/quote]