NLS Bangalore averts cash crisis & builds as NLUs lobby Moily, Sibal back into Rs 8 cr UGC funding

NLS: Budget bridged, now building boom
NLS: Budget bridged, now building boom
Exclusive: NLSIU Bangalore has launched a host of new construction in its academic block, hostels and basketball courts while NLU Delhi has decided to renegotiate the pay of its foreign-educated faculty, after both law schools were sanctioned close to Rs 8 crore by the University Grants Commission (UGC) in November 2012.

A similar grant of between Rs 7.5 and 9 crore was also extended by the UGC to the other 12 national law schools (NLU) late last year under the eleventh five-year plan, after their vice chancellors (VC) lobbied aggressively against excluding the law schools from central funding.

NLU Delhi VC Ranbir Singh told Legally India that law schools were struck out of the purview of the grant around three years ago when the UGC’s former vice chairman “wrote on a file, [I] don’t know in which mood”, that NLUs belonged to the self-funded category of institutions.

Singh said that this administrative act of the UGC came to light when the VCs’ mentioned the dearth of funds during their discussions with former law minister Veerappa Moily, after he had announced his second generation reforms in legal education in 2010.

“[We brought to his attention] that we haven’t been getting grants. For some reason the grants have been stopped,” said Singh, and added: “Our condition was that all institutes are making money through self-financed courses. So stop everybody’s funding. Why should the IITs and IIMs get [Rs] 200-300 crores when here [in law schools] we are not even getting [Rs] 10 crores?”

In April 2012, after analysis of college financial accounts, NLSIU Bangalore was facing a Rs 2 crore funding gap in the 2012-13 financial year with the Karnataka government having also halved its grant from Rs 4 crore, Legally India had reported in Mint at the time.

On the other hand, the Delhi government had extended another Rs 15 crore to the five-year-old NLU Delhi in that financial year.

Both Singh and NLSIU vice-chancellor R Venkata Rao said VCs had been writing to the UGC for more than a year before June 2012 to get the funding back, without eliciting a response. Between June and August 2012 over 10 meetings were convened with the college heads, Moily and then human resource development (HRD) minister Kapil Sibal. According to Singh and Rao, they were sympathetic to the plight of the law schools.

“Hats off to Veerappa Moily for giving us such a patient hearing,” said Rao.

Rao said that the Rs 7.6 crore approved for NLSIU, in addition to the Rs 1 crore approved by the Karnataka government for the April 2012 to March 2013 financial year, will be used toward the construction of a new academic block, additional girls’ hostels, an “international training centre” with 212 “world-class” classrooms, new conference rooms, eight new basketball courts, and a “big examination room with improved acoustics”.

“The examination room will be ready for use when the college reopens next on 10 March 2013,” he added.

Singh said: “One thing we got approved from our academic council is that probably in the case of highly qualified people [in the faculty], such as from the Ivy League, Cambridge, Oxford we will renegotiate their salaries. Unfortunately when everyone remains in [the present pay] scale, some people will go off to the private institutes where there are worse-off students.”

In April 2012, NLSIU registrar V Nagaraj had told Legally India that attracting highly skilled lawyers to teaching remained a problem for the 15-year-old law school.

Last week Bangalore dismissed its 2008 alum and visiting faculty Sidharth Chauhan from service without reasons, as first reported by Legally India, after he had openly protested the administration’s imposition of a 9pm curfew in campus after an alleged rape near campus.

Rao yesterday reiterated that he wished to make no further comment on the decision aside from it having been an executive council decision, which he stood by.

Comments

Old News 7 Feb 2013, 09:24
+4 -4
This is pretty old news! Other NLUs had got this amount long back and most of it has already been spent also.
Kishen Murali 7 Feb 2013, 20:12
+6 -2
"Unfortunately when everyone remains in [the present pay] scale, some people will go off to the private institutes where there are worse-off students.”

Cheap shot at Jindal and Amity.
tut tut 7 Feb 2013, 09:45
+3 -3
212 classrooms! really!!
fixit 7 Feb 2013, 09:49
+3 -2
What's the point re NLU D?? [...] NLS has made such a wide outlay with their 7.5 crore of funding. However, NLU will do squat with double that amount and say that allof it was spent on "increased pay" for "foreign faculty" who'll probably take three classes entire semester.
Law Student 7 Feb 2013, 12:13
+14 -4
Honestly, rather than some fancy new overpriced construction, I think law schools would much rather have good faculty. People come to learn the law, not to avail of some 'international training centre' (he's referring to an extra floor being built) or some multiple basketball courts. Why the hell do 500 odd people need 8 basketball courts?
At a time when NLS is undergoing a major faculty crunch and is being unable to attract even decent academic talent, Ranbir Singh's statements are to be lauded while Rao's are to be seen with an extremely perplexed expression.
fixit 7 Feb 2013, 13:02
+3 -2
Faculty change is understandable and obviously takes priority over infrastructure. However, the change is merely on paper, they get professors who are on the college's rosters but hardly take any classes and neverfail tp collect their paychecks
Fixit?? 7 Feb 2013, 17:15
+2 -0
I don't know what 'on paper' you are talking about.

He got Mrinal Satish and Aparna Chandra from YLS
Anup Surendranath from Oxford
Chinmayi Arun LSE
Nawneet Vibhaw from Lewis & Clark Law School
RA's from Geaorge Washington, SOAS, Harvard

So get you facts right boy.
Murali 8 Feb 2013, 04:58
+5 -1
Who gives a [...] about Lewis & Clark?? WTF!
NLS Alum 8 Feb 2013, 10:33
+3 -1
[quote name="Murali"]Who gives a [...] about Lewis & Clark?? WTF![/quote]

It's the best Environmental Law Program in the world. Which is what Nawneet went there to study. Which is his field of interest.
Observer 8 Feb 2013, 15:42
+0 -0
All of these people are taking classes regularly and are responsible for some of the main law courses. I don't know the situation in other colleges, but it definitely is not the situation in NLUD.
Dazed and Confused 7 Feb 2013, 10:10
+7 -4
Prachi - This is an improvement in your enterprise type articles. It taps into a trend and looks for a hook.

You need a far more focused lead, however. Why is this news? Why do we care? If your lead graph cites a November '12 funding allocation and some on-campus digging, it's not clear what the urgency or focus of the story is. Just ask yourself, where is the news in this?

As it is, it looks a little as if NLSIU is using a stale PR release about construction to paper over the sorry discussion of the political wrangling at the school.

Your lead should have been: "NLSIU on building spree with renewed funding committment from Centre." If you're trying to make some other point, it was lost.

But better effort, and your written English is improving. That is a genuine compliment, no snickering or irony from anyone out there!
Prachishrivastava 7 Feb 2013, 10:45
+5 -0
Hi D&C,

Thanks again for your feedback, glad you liked the story.

The news-hook admittedly is not that fresh, but surprisingly this has not been reported anywhere yet. It was also a direct follow-up to our Mint feature of April 2012.

We couldn't have missed reporting this important development, even if a bit late.

Best wishes,
Prachi
Zed 7 Feb 2013, 10:51
+8 -2
@Dazed and Confused

Why not join the LI team if you think you're such an excellent journalist? Also, you sound exactly like one of those self-satisfied shmucks that abound in law school. Grow up and stop picking on PS.
Dazed and Confused 7 Feb 2013, 11:41
+16 -3
[quote name="Zed"]@Dazed and Confused

Why not join the LI team if you think you're such an excellent journalist? Also, you sound exactly like one of those self-satisfied shmucks that abound in law school. Grow up and stop picking on PS.[/quote]

A blog is a cooperative effort, and your and my roles are to contribute quality comments.

Prachi "buried the lead" in her story, but her effort deserved recognition. I recognized it. She was hammered on a story a couple of weeks ago and has stepped up her game.

As for qulaifications to comment - I have an M.A. in journalism from one of the top U.S. journalism schools, worked for years as a deadline journalist for one of the top ten newspapers in the U.S., have three law degrees (including one from NLSIU) and practiced with two major international law firms.

Oh, and "schmuck" is spelled with a "c." Schmuck!
BBBBBBB 7 Feb 2013, 22:29
+1 -1
[quote name="Dazed and Confused"][quote name="Zed"]@Dazed and Confused

Why not join the LI team if you think you're such an excellent journalist? Also, you sound exactly like one of those self-satisfied shmucks that abound in law school. Grow up and stop picking on PS.[/quote]

A blog is a cooperative effort, and your and my roles are to contribute quality comments.

Prachi "buried the lead" in her story, but her effort deserved recognition. I recognized it. She was hammered on a story a couple of weeks ago and has stepped up her game.

As for qulaifications to comment - I have an M.A. in journalism from one of the top U.S. journalism schools, worked for years as a deadline journalist for one of the top ten newspapers in the U.S., have three law degrees (including one from NLSIU) and practiced with two major international law firms.

Oh, and "schmuck" is spelled with a "c." Schmuck![/quote]

BUUUURRRN!
Meh 8 Feb 2013, 10:41
+2 -1
...and with all of these qualifications, your masterpiece, your signature work, the apotheosis of your intellectual development, is giving Prachi a hard time in the Legally India comments section?

Go do work. With all those "qulaifications" you should really be trying to get somewhere in life.

@Prachi - Don't take crap from randoms! Chin chin!
Pacman 7 Feb 2013, 11:22
+20 -1
“big examination room with improved acoustics”

Finally when my friend from 3 rows away screams an answer I can probably hear it much better this time!

I really owe to the NLSIU admin for this generous consideration.
lawschoolite 7 Feb 2013, 11:56
+14 -1
In the name of getting world class classrooms, FIVE ACs are fitted in every classroom which is entirely unnecessary considering that it is never too hot in bangalore. the ACs are almost never used, and in any case two or three at max would have sufficed.

So while NLSIU keeps making wasteful expenditures, NLU Delhi renegotiates salaries for good faculty. Thus, Mrinal Sathish, an alumnus of law school , who was denied a post at NLS goes and teaches at NLU Delhi. Way to go Venkata Rao. By the end of your tenure, NLS' indisputable run as the top law school would have definitely come to an end.
no action 11 Feb 2013, 08:42
+0 -0
Mr.Lawschoolite.. thanks. who will BELL the cat...???? Time alone ! LI !! RTI !! PIL ??????
Well Wisher 7 Feb 2013, 12:06
+1 -6
1. Follow up of an April 2012 article in February 2013?

2. Terming 'Dazed and Confused' as 'D&C' was sarcasm. As an editor, please refrain.

3. 212 classrooms for? Are they planning to increase their intake? If no, we need to know the reason. Plus where did they get so much space to do so?

All the Best
Not a NLUIte 7 Feb 2013, 13:35
+0 -1
"some people will go off to the private institutes where there are [b]worse-off [/b]students."
As a VC of a reputed institute the least he could do is not speak bu****it without any evidence rather than talking s**t. The Non NLU student already face a tough competition from NLUites in terms of internship/placement etc and these kind of academician are only making the situation worse by making loose comments .
NALSARite 7 Feb 2013, 15:15
+4 -5
Well, if you worked just that little bit harder, you could have landed yourself a seat in an NLU and you wouldn't have any of the problems you speak of! :)
Not a NLUIte 8 Feb 2013, 17:46
+2 -1
[quote name="NALSARite"]Well, if you worked just that little bit harder, you could have landed yourself a seat in an NLU and you wouldn't have any of the problems you speak of! :)[/quote]
Well I did not make it to a NLU but it may be hardwork or it maybe bad luck as CLAT really wont be the best example for a fair and objective test where there is no negative marking, syllabus given is not adhered to, paper gets leaked etc etc but the point is the way Mr. Singh puts it makes it look like that every Non NLU student is an idiot and I highly doubt thats the case. My father is a HC judge and he did his education from a Non NLU college but yeah thats make him a fool I guess.
Dazed and Confused 7 Feb 2013, 15:43
+12 -1
In defense of NLSIU, the canteen coffee is still pretty good while the coffee at NLU Delhi sucks. Let's keep our priorities straight, friends.
lawschoolite 7 Feb 2013, 17:54
+4 -1
Chetta FTW.
Guest 7 Feb 2013, 17:02
+6 -0
AAh construction ! what an original idea to use this money --- [...] - now everybody can benefit from awarding construction contracts to shoddy contractors and take a cut from - complete repeat of the time the library was built and the roof fell off 6 months later and the canteen contract was awarded to some random relatives [...]. Good job [...]. I graduated a few years ago but I see nothing has changed. Focus will still be on shiny new facilities to entertain random ias officers for [...] law courses taught by the very competent "[...]" rather than recruiting credible faculty.
abhi 8 Feb 2013, 05:20
+0 -1
cool dude
Concerned 8 Feb 2013, 06:01
+2 -0
There is too much construction going on not to be fishy, and now more construction. There should be a special audit. The insitution should spend more of its money on its faculty and less on continuous constrution. That grant was necessary at any rate.
Indian2012 9 Feb 2013, 05:31
+0 -0
hmmmm....Kian just checkout workdone infra and facultywise and making NLU-J debt free by its present VC. I guess you will like it.
Herb 9 Feb 2013, 07:38
+2 -0
I am generally a fierce critic of Ranbir SIngh- what with his dictatorial way of running NLUD. However, seeing Professors such as Aparna Chandra, Mrinal Sathish, Anup Surendranath, Babu Matthew and others arrive on campus I have to doff my hat.

The library timings have become reasonable too.
All in all, I'm impressed.
aaa 9 Feb 2013, 11:50
+0 -0
Kian pls file an RTI at NUJS to know about misuse of funds.
Guest 12 Feb 2013, 09:12
+2 -0
if the entire teaching faculty consisted of those of the rank of professor, all you need for their pay would be 2 crores with quite a few lakhs to spare. the fees is large enough for that and all the attendant expenses. But unfortunately it is not enough for ego trips, including for cavorting in foreign lands, for 6 months at least, on various excuses. As an alumni of the NLSIU, had the privelege of being taught by quite a few of the awardees of the NR Madhva Menon best law teachers, and can say with a certainty that most of them, including Prof. Singh, were an apology for a teacher. It is mutual backscratching. Even among the Alumni, you must be the one who never questioned or was perceived to have it in you to question to get the breakin as faculty. Pygmies love pygmies or those who treat them as giants. No wonder the research output at most NLU's is pathetic with the best being behind their appointmentment. NLUD is fully built up and 7cr means that they are thinking in terms of adding at the minimum something in the region of 50,000 sq.ft. conservatively. Never heard anyone saying that much was required.