NLSIU sends 9 faculty offer letters to 8 star alumni, incl NLU-D & JGU profs, and a Jessup winner [CORRECTION]

NLU Delhi profs Mrinal Satish (left), Aparna Chandra to become NLS prof, assoc. prof as part of round of 9 hires
NLU Delhi profs Mrinal Satish (left), Aparna Chandra to become NLS prof, assoc. prof as part of round of 9 hires

NLSIU Bangalore’s executive council (EC) on Saturday signed off on its permanent faculty recruitments, which had been long-pending due to the EC having been repeatedly postponed due to Covid-19 after interviews had been carried out.

These would also be NLSIU’s first permanent teacher recruitments in 12 years, following a notification for 13 positions, including two professors, one associate professor and 10 assistant professors (including two in social sciences).

Of course, the below names are just offers at this point and it does not necessarily mean that they will be accepted. Nevertheless, the fact that eight out of nine are graduates from NLS will likely make both students and the alumni network happy.

The notice for the positions were issued on 1 February, as we had first reported.

However, the process (as so many national law university processes do) had also attracted a writ petition and an ex parte stay order in February 2020, from an applicant for the post of assistant professor in law. It is understood that the stay was set aside, with certain conditions.

We have reached out to NLSIU vice-chancellor (VC) Prof Sudhir Krishnaswamy for comment.

All those who received offers whom we have contacted, either declined to comment or were unreachable for comment.

Offer for new NLS professor wings its way to NLU Delhi

NLSIU had been looking for two professors in its call for applicants, but we have not been able to authoritatively confirm whether a second professor appointment was made.

However, we understand from several sources with knowledge of the process, that NLU Delhi criminal law professor Mrinal Satish (a 2001 NLS LLB graduate and 2007 Yale University LLM).

According to his university profile, he teaches “criminal law, including advanced courses to students of the undergraduate and postgraduate programmes”, with his research interests including “sentencing, gender and the law, medical jurisprudence, empirical analysis of law, reproductive justice, excessive undertrial and pre-trial detention, and studying the impact of the criminal justice system in its interface with vulnerable and disempowered groups”.

Satish had returned to NLU Delhi in November 2019 after a year at the Delhi Judicial Academy (DJA).

Before that, he was executive director of NLU Delhi’s Centre for Constitutional Law, Policy and Governance since 2014.

NLS associate professor offers also goes to NLU D

For the associate professor position, we reliably understand that NLSIU has made an offer to NLU Delhi assistant prof Aparna Chandra.

She is a 2006 NLS LLB, 2007 Yale Law School LLM, and 2013 JSD also from Yale, and is research director of NLU Delhi’s Centre for Constitutional Law, Policy and Governance.

She teaches and researches on constitutional law, human rights, legal theory, gender and the law, and judicial process reform.

Lateral assistant professor offers:

We understand from sources with knowledge of the hires, that offers have been made to for at least four academics who are currently not teaching at NLSIU, to join its faculty:

  • Jindal School of Liberal Arts & Humanities, which is part of JGLS Sonepat’s umbrella body associate professor Atreyee Majumder (NLS LLB 2006, 2014 Yale University PhD, at JGLS since January 2019).
  • Shreya Shree, currently an independent researcher after nearly two years at NLU Delhi’s Centre for Constitutional Law, Policy and Governance (2015 NLS LLB, 2018 NLU Delhi LLM).
  • Azim Premji University’s (APU) Sushmita Pati, who teaches law and governance there, as political science assistant professor (holding a BA in political science from Lady Shriram College of Delhi University, MA and MPhil in political studies from Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU) Delhi.
  • Raag Yadava, who is a 2013 NLSIU LLB graduate and also famously its 2013 Jessup winner, and a Rhodes scholar to boot).

Clarification 9 July 2020: We understand that at least two of the candidates, Yadava and Chowhury, have both been offered positions on contract, rather than permanent positions.

Ad hoc NLS assistant professors to get contract

Another two ad hoc assistant professors, whose tenures had never been made permanent due to the long NLS permanent faculty hiring freeze, have also been made offers to become permanent assistant professors, with one having been made an offer on contract:

  • NLS assistant professor of law (ad hoc) Sanyukta Chowdhury (2005 NLS LLB, National University Singapore (NUS) LLM) to join on contract.
  • NLS assistant professor Kunal Ambasta (2012 NLS LLB, 2013 Berkeley LLM).
  • NLS assistant professor of law (ad hoc) Rashmi Venkatesan (2007 NLS graduate, 2015 SOAS LLM).

Correction 9 July 2020: Contrary to our initial report and as pointed out in the comments, we understand that Chowdhury has been made an offer to join on contract, not as permanent faculty.

A formal hat-tip to all readers who have shared information with us regarding the recruitments.

Comments

Guest 29 Jun 2020, 18:58
Contested
+2 -1
The ad-hocs getting finalised was kind of expected. Sudhir did well in getting Mrinal and Aparna to join. I am not sure about this 'offer' business though. Surely all these people had applied during the recruitment process? So why won't they accept the letter of offer? Unless they have joined other jobs since then and are happy with it. Not that many on the financial/commercial law side, are there? I don't know what Raag teaches at Jindal though, the other new joiners seem to be all from public law mostly.
Guest 1 Jul 2020, 04:31
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Well done Sudhir! 29 Jun 2020, 19:35
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And this is what most folks who argue against an academic VC don’t get. All these brilliant folks applied to nls because of Sudhir K. He’s worked with several of them intimately before. And this is a small subset of the number of people he has mentored through the years. And they follow him because they trust that he will build a good academic institution and nurture that culture.
Guest 30 Jun 2020, 05:33
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Sudhir is a rockstar! 99.9% of students and alumni stand with him. The haters on LI are his enemies in the faculty posing as students, or maybe jealous students of other NLUs.
Backpedal 30 Jun 2020, 09:45
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Sudhir is a great academician, but we should really refrain from putting him on a pedestal and calling him a "rockstar". It is a dangerous trend seeping into academia, leading to people pretending an administrative head cannot have any flaws. At the end of the day, Sudhir is accountable to us and not immune from scrutiny.
Notagain! 30 Jun 2020, 10:29
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Who is saying don’t hold him accountable? We’re just appreciating that he knocked this out of the park. There’s holding someone accountable and then there is hoping they fail and begrudging them their successes.
Backpedal 30 Jun 2020, 15:51
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"Sudhir is a rockstar!" came off as a blanket statement. I do appreciate his efforts in this direction, as a direct beneficiary, but I want to be cautious seeing his actual performance vs the LI hype in the days leading up to his appointment.
Guest 1 Jul 2020, 13:28
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Rockstars can be held accountable.
oooohhhh 10 Sept 2020, 05:39
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"[i]Intimately[/i]" ah?
Guest 29 Jun 2020, 19:39
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Great list of people. Honestly curious about the 'offer'. Is Sudhir dangling the professorship/associate professorship in front of Mrinal and Aparna without them having made an application? Would be a very aggressive method of getting them to make the difficult decision to refuse a homecoming if that's what it is.
lol 30 Jun 2020, 03:32
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What are you even saying? The official list has not been notified to public. Kian seems to have jumped the gun with rumours. There are more names pending. Further, the recruitment process requires applications and interviews. So obviously the NLUD profs actively applied. So much for NLUD is on the rise...
Guest 30 Jun 2020, 04:57
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I know the process, but was merely speculating due to LI's statement: "the below names are just offers at this point and it does not necessarily mean that they will be accepted." Why does LI think these people might not accept? If they applied and have been selected, then they ought to join. That creates confusion, at least for me, that they might not have applied. Just guess work of an uninformed but interested individual.
Guest 99 29 Jun 2020, 20:04
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Kian, why have they declined to comment? Are your sources not reliable?
Guest 5 Jul 2020, 12:18
+0 -0
Perhaps because they don't want to comment?

Lol.
Xjdjdl 29 Jun 2020, 21:36
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This is so huge. Nls is bound to increase its lead over others with these recruitments. If you include all the eminent people who are already taking seminar courses, I believe nls' faculty is better than even Jindal.
Good&Bad 29 Jun 2020, 22:12
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While the academic pedigree of the prospective hires certainly is excellent, it is somewhat disappointing to see so many appointments for positions for just criminal law, gender law, and other such, with no efforts (assuming any to have been made) having culminated in offers being made to practitioners in corporate law, dispute resolution and other practice areas which one would fairly assume that a vast majority of the batch would want to pursue, upon graduation.

We really don't need more professors harping on so called human rights, gender and law, etc. Nothing against the subjects, even though they are often extremely one-sided, not intellectually rigorous, and don't really help one with lucrative career opportunities - which is an extremely important consideration for most of the students of law school. It would be great if colleges tried to proactively recruit former law firm partners, former officers of the SEBI/RBI, etc.
ugly 30 Jun 2020, 03:33
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You should know before talking. Some of them are for commercial courses as well.
Rigourraj 30 Jun 2020, 05:27
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I think it’s worthwhile to ask if people from that kind of private practice background even want to teach / apply to teach.

Obviously Sudhir will do best in his world- half of these people he has worked with before.

And academy everywhere usually has a liberal bent- but I don’t think one should turn away good professors because they work on public law
Lol 30 Jun 2020, 06:39
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So, you are implying that corporate law and finance are more "intellectually rigorous" than these subjects? There is a difference between being a mindless clerk who can sift through heaps of forms and technocratic regulations, and intellectual rigour. Any random law graduate can pursue corporate law, and perhaps that's a reason why there are so many corporate slaves already.

Lol. The only people who find corporate law intellectually rigorous are those into it -- that is, those incapable of other finer disciplines.
Guest 30 Jun 2020, 07:06
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You are confusing Corporate Law or financial laws as subjects with what firms make A0s or interns do. I assure you that the disciplines do have a lot of scope for intellectual pursuit and stimuli. There are stalwarts like Bainbridge, Bebchuk and many others. Even Umakanth does fine work. Having said that, I do agree that public law subjects are by no means 'inferior' or 'intellectually less rigorous' either. Any subject with proper training, research and application can become intellectually stimulating.
Pfft 30 Jun 2020, 10:33
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That’s a very small group of people who do that in academia though- and a smaller group even in India.

Intellectual rigor and all is debatable- I would say that to rise in the public law academic world takes a lot more intellectual rigor because there are so many people doing it.
Good&Bad 3 Jul 2020, 19:54
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I think he's also woefully unaware of the day to day work even at a junior level, at good law firms. Even junior associates in corporate law often work extensively on advisory (which often involves having to examine a complex web of interconnected legal frameworks, with multiple interpretive ambiguities) and in structuring, among others - which again requires both a very thorough grounding in applicable laws, and the ability to improvise. If as an associate one is only sifting through forms, one really needs to ask the question: how competent is he/she that no better work is delegated to him/her?

Also, if "any random law graduate" can pursue corporate law, why are so many unable to get in? It's not as easy as you may think; it requires a lot of hard work, a fair bit of astuteness and mental sharpness, and attention to detail. It's not for everyone; in fact, precisely because of this (though there are other contributing factors at play), most grads can't last in corporate practice long enough to make a career out of it. It's not easy, and it's not for everyone. But any person can mug up a bunch of UN conventions and blame all of the world's ills on "oppression" and other Marxist and post-modernist jibber jabber.
Guest 4 Jul 2020, 05:04
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Was totally with you, till you added the last part.
Bro 4 Jul 2020, 11:55
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I've worked at "good law firms". I don't think the work handled by junior associates (year 4 and below) requires a very "thorough grounding in law". Even a good junior associate wouldn't know their arse from their elbow in structuring transactions and - that's fine - that's not what is expected from them. The ability to grind it out is the highest virtue in a junior associate.

I know several senior associates (year 10 and below) and partners who are mediocre at best and I don't say this with derision. Their understanding of their practice area is anecdotal and not based on a "thorough grounding in law". They have survived the life as other have quit for one reason or the other and surely they must be compensated for having lived / living a bad work-life balance. A large part of transactional law (in terms of time spent and value addition) is transaction management and risk reduction and, for that: common sense, appreciation of business risks / imperatives, and being able to say "sure you'll have that by tomorrow AM" at 10.30pm, is more critical than knowledge of legal principles.

Having said this, working in a law firm is never easy. The hardest part is the tedious nature of work and since there is a great diminishing marginal return on legal advise, mistakes are not acceptable. Not at 1pm or 1am or after having worked for 24hrs straight. This makes working in a firm particularly difficult. It also doesn't help that there is a self-selection of people who having nothing else in their life except work, which usually makes them toxic to deal with.
Guest 21 1 Jul 2020, 08:56
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@6.3- A corporate lawyers day to day operation may be boring but teaching them requires some mettle. Public law subjects like constitution, criminal and many more are inherently interesting but creating interest in banking and insolvency code, SEBI, company law etc. is very difficult. One needs to be very very imaginative. There is always a great dearth of teachers in these areas.
Guest 1 Jul 2020, 13:32
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The typical law schoolite doesn't need to be spoonfed laws by a teacher.

The rigors of the course prepare him for the rigors of any job.

The fact that you consider non corporate courses 'not intellectually rigorous' clearly shows you haven't been to law school.
Good&Bad 3 Jul 2020, 19:48
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Well, I'm certainly not a "law-schoolite" (is that even a word? Please educate yourself).

But I did go to Law School, and work at one of the Big-4 law firms, so it would be good if you checked your presumptuousness.

Having said that, please do read the actual comment. My comment wasn't that "non-corporate courses" aren't intellectually rigorous, but that the specific subjects referred to are *often* not rigorous, and more problematically, do not help one obtain a lucrative career. There are plenty of subjects which are not corporate law that are extremely rigorous!

By the way friend, attention to detail is extremely important in any aspiring lawywer, as is the ability to not jump to conclusions without anything to back one up. I suggest you take a step back and assess where you stand on those fronts.
Guest 5 Jul 2020, 12:21
+1 -7
The fact that you aren't familiar with the term law schoolite shows you didn't go to Blr.
Guest 5 Jul 2020, 12:24
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I read what you had to say and don't agree with it. Doing 2 corporate law courses is not going to get you a job in a corporate law firm. If I interviewed some one who had such reductive assumptions I would laugh them out of the interview room.
Narayan20 29 Jun 2020, 23:05
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Congratulations to Sudhir and his team, I believe this is a very dynamic and bold strategy to attract talent and develop a nucleus of well-diversified and experienced alumni who can guide NLS for the next twenty years. Considering how similar Satish and Sudhir's backgrounds are, it seems like a big-hearted decision to offer and also accept a place at NLS.

This is what Indian legal academia needs in the short run. In the long run more structural changes will be needed to make law schools productive and vaguely similar to the Western models. This is also an example of the right way to get alumni to their alma mater which is the norm in the West. All these alumni have completed their academic research, thesis and post-docs beyond NLS and proven their mettle and earned their experience outside, their return offers fresh perspective in scholarship as well as administration. This contrasts with the NUJS where entire cohorts of faculty are educated and groomed internally only to be appointed to tenure as a matter of course, often sitting on each others doctoral committees - a serious deficiency and breakdown of both ethics and propriety.
Janop 1 Jul 2020, 05:52
+0 -0
What do you mean by "sitting on each others doctoral committees"?
Guest 1 Jul 2020, 09:32
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He got a bit carried away. A faculty can't sit in the doctoral committee unless they have got their PhD already. So this quid pro quo that he seems to be hinting at doesn't work that way. If it is an issue with one's senior colleague sitting in the committee, then that's different. However, the PhDs are reviewed by external experts before they are awarded, so even there I don't really see any malafide issue as such.
Narayan20 1 Jul 2020, 22:26
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In small universities or departments all (or a large fraction of) faculty members with a doctorate are named onto the doctoral committee that has varying powers of supervision over progress and grant of degrees to Ph.D. candidates. If a large number of faculty are concurrently doctoral candidates this might result in some very interesting outcomes. Firstly, their colleagues would be on their doctoral committees. This creates an environment antithetic to academic integrity and potential for all kinds of conflicts is created. These are exacerbated in small departments where the faculty know each other individually. Secondly, an individual with very little difference in rank and seniority may precede her colleague into the doctoral committee simply by completing her Ph.D. a year or two ahead. Since the time taken for defence of a thesis is usually quite standard this results in faculty of a particular Ph.D. cohort getting a leg-up over their peers who for various reasons enrolled into the doctoral program a year later.

In either case I cannot emphasize enough, the power that faculty so enshrined onto the doctoral committee can wield on her colleagues. This could manifest in delays of a year or more in progression of a candidate. Personal grievances can spill over and result in unfavorable reviews that can cause loss of face and time to the affected faculty. Alternatively a poor candidate might get preferential treatment because of her friends (also colleagues) on the committee.

As an analogy, this is somewhat similar to the process of judicial appointments in India where judges selecting judges has come under criticism for its propensity to favor nepotism and breed inequality. Once again, such a system (for selection of judges) is frowned upon and does not exist in developed countries (the U.K. has an independent commission headed by a Professor of Medicine that does the selections).

As I have posted here before, this is one of many reasons why universities in Europe and the Americas do not permit faculty to enrol in their own degree programs (much less doctoral programs) while continuing as faculty. It has come as something of a surprise to me that readers of this newspaper believe there is nothing of concern in this arrangement.
Guest 29 Jun 2020, 23:28
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Guest 29 Jun 2020, 23:28
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And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why Sudhir is a good VC and other NLUs need alumni VCs.
Guest 29 Jun 2020, 23:32
+8 -10
Next year NIRF faculty rankings:

1. NLSIU
2. Don't bother
3. Don't bother.
4. OK, maybe Nalsar.
Guest 29 Jun 2020, 23:36
+5 -1
This begs the question: Why are VCs of other NLUs not hiring star alumni, or even ANY alumni? Why is the TLC mafia always allowed to get away by hiring their cronies? Among certain VCs, why is there opposition to even guest lecturers? Time to overthrow these corrupt tyrants!
Guest 29 Jun 2020, 23:44
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wut 18 Jul 2020, 02:32
+0 -1
This comment did not age well...
Guest 18 Jul 2020, 04:31
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Because the only people who are leaving JGU for NLSIU are relatively junior people?
Guest 29 Jun 2020, 23:47
Contested
+9 -8
NLUD people: If y'all fight for Srividhya Raghavan you too will get many alumni as faculty. Get the others in and you are doomed. Don't believe in the myth of NLUD's location advantage. NLUD is in a shady part of Delhi and the city is generally not good for living (pollution, cries against women etc). Bengaluru is better in these ways.
Dwarka 2020 30 Jun 2020, 04:45
+8 -6
If you stil l believe that Dwarka is shady and a distant part of Delhi in 2020, probably just take try to take the metro once. Don't perpetuate shit you'd heard in 2013.
Bet Dwarka 2020 30 Jun 2020, 06:58
+4 -2
I was there 6 months ago, not much has changed from when I was there in 2012.
Guest 1 Jul 2020, 01:22
+3 -0
Dwarka is the armpit of Delhi. And those not from Delhi should know that it takes over 60 mins to reach central Delhi from there. I just hate Dwarka, to be honest. NLUD should relocate to a better area.
DelhiBoi 1 Jul 2020, 06:07
+3 -0
All this Dwarka hate really kills the vibe :(
(Btw takes 25-30 odd mins to reach Dwarka from CP on the Airport Express)
Guest 30 Jun 2020, 03:17
+1 -1
Just saying:

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/covid-19-pandemic-is-not-even-close-to-being-over-says-who-chief-2254208?pfrom=home-topscroll

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/new-swine-flu-with-pandemic-potential-discovered-in-china-2254227?pfrom=home-topscroll
lol 30 Jun 2020, 03:30
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Now that is a list. Sources have been saying "Mrinal and Aparna" for months, only for anon trolls to claim to have spoken to them and been assured they aren't leaving. The assistant professor cohort looks impressive as well. Pleasantly surprised by the Jessup Rhodie, any insight on his career trajectory till now?
Realness 30 Jun 2020, 03:35
Troll
+4 -1
Law School has come to play. This recruitment cycle is like the air charter of migrant worker charity. Other colleges might have been trying prior to this, but when we do anything, it's leagues ahead of the competition.
Woah? 30 Jun 2020, 04:04
+5 -0
Aatreyee Majumder is an Associate Professor at Jindal. She's leaving that to become Assistant Professor at Law School?
Guest 30 Jun 2020, 05:36
+13 -1
Yes, not everyone sells out for money.
Minor correction 30 Jun 2020, 04:29
+3 -0
Kian, Raag is from the 2013 batch and not 2014
kianganz 30 Jun 2020, 09:55
+0 -0
Thanks, have corrected.
Guest 30 Jun 2020, 05:24
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Let's check the rumours being posted about NLSIU on LI in recent times:

1. Sudhir will hire alumni: TRUE
2. Faculty will be leaving NLUD and JGLS: TRUE
3. Lizzie will run off to another NLU: TRUE
4. NLSIU will not implement domicile quota this year despite the govt order: TRUE
5. NLSIU alumni and students may mount a challenge against the quota: UNPROVEN
6. NLSIU is lobbying with Karnataka to apply for National Importance status: UNPROVEN
Guest 30 Jun 2020, 05:31
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Other NLUs should not be jealous. Instead, they should try to work out a visiting professor arrangement with alumni. At least 6 to 8 other NLUs have alumni who are well established in law firms, academia, court practice, UPSC etc.
Guest 30 Jun 2020, 05:39
+2 -0
Are we allowed to name and shame VCs of other NLUs who rejected alumni and hired their mediocre TLC chelas as faculty? Or will LI censor the names?
Guest 30 Jun 2020, 05:41
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Ok boys, let's have a comparison of which NLU has the most star alumni as faculty. I openly challenge NLUD, NALSAR, NUJS and the rest to come out with facts instead of fakery.
Guest 30 Jun 2020, 14:18
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What is star alumni? Those who have got starfish like appendages? A foreign degree doth not a good teacher make. Not that I am casting any aspersion on the likes of Mrinal. He is definitely very good.
Guest 30 Jun 2020, 05:44
+1 -0
Tight slap to TLC lobby.
Guest 30 Jun 2020, 06:56
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After this, NLUD will have only 1 NLU alum teaching (Anoop Surendranath), yet their PR machine has convinced law aspirants that they have 8 to 10 alum teaching.
Guest 1 Jul 2020, 09:47
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NLUD never had since 2008 as many as 8-10 NLU LLB Alumni teaching there full-time. Anybody who claims otherwise is just lying.
Guest 30 Jun 2020, 07:01
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Sudhir + Sarasu + plus 8 names here = 10 NLSIU alumni faculty. More than JGLS, which has mostly from other NLUs.
Guest2 30 Jun 2020, 08:14
+24 -0
Why do people forget "no vehicle shall enter the park"?
Guest 30 Jun 2020, 08:27
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Plus Rahul Singh
Guest 30 Jun 2020, 07:02
+1 -0
A further 5-6 hires will happen as some profs are past retirement age: Nagaraj, Ramesh, Ramakrishna etc.
Pragmatic View 30 Jun 2020, 10:33
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Given the tight budgetary situation at NLSIU, the next round of permanent hires will likely happen after 2-3 years. Dr. M.K. Ramesh and Dr. T. Ramakrishna are due to retire in 2021, while Dr. V. Nagaraj will retire in 2023. So there is still some time before that. Others such as Dr. O.V. Nandimath, Ashok Patil and Govindraj Hegde have service periods that will run well into the 2030s. For now, let us wait for an official statement from Sudhir/Sarasu on who all are finally joining the positions that were advertised in February 2020.

Kian seems to have jumped the gun and pre-emptively carried this report. It might have put candidates already working at other institutions in a tight spot vis-a-vis their current employers. The decent thing to do would have been to wait for an official statement.
Guest 30 Jun 2020, 22:25
+3 -0
Isn't Ramakrishna over 65 already? His bio says he started as a lecturer at Mysore University in 1979. What's the retirement age then?
Guest 99 30 Jun 2020, 10:11
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Will they also poach Nigam? Sudhir must do so. There is no point running BML Munjal
Username 30 Jun 2020, 10:37
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I mean he has been unhappy staying outside of Bangalore- but he also does seem to enjoy making a new thing on his own and building that institution.
Guest 99 30 Jun 2020, 16:11
+0 -1
He has been unhappy outside bangalore and yet wants to build an institution outside Bangalore? Are you a troll?
Username 30 Jun 2020, 17:40
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No - I just know that a person can feel fulfilled in their professional life and yet miss their home town.
Guest 30 Jun 2020, 10:12
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Kian, why does this article have photos of only Mrinal and Aparna? Have you not been able to find photos of the others?
Guest 30 Jun 2020, 12:05
+0 -0
Maybe because they are the ones coming in for the senior positions - professor and associate professor respectively? Anyways, that's my guess.
Bhaibhatijawaad 30 Jun 2020, 14:12
+10 -5
This is similar to how TLC hired it cronies. Sudhir is also following in the same path. I mean, if being the alumni is the eligibility criteria, why term the faculty recruitment notification a public notification rather than alumni notification and make a mockery of law. Over time, all nepotism comes to an end, so shall this one
Guest 30 Jun 2020, 14:50
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It's just that Sudhir's cronies, at least some in this case, are simply of a better class?
Anyone 30 Jun 2020, 17:43
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Dyou have any proof that otherwise worthy candidates were overlooked?
The problem with the older lot of administrators was that they deliberately overlooked candidates who wouldn’t serve their political interests/ weren’t from the same community etc- is there any proof or even rumour of Sudhir having done the same?
Guest 30 Jun 2020, 14:17
+1 -4
Please motivate future law graduates to leave corporate jobs. It's not worth it. Education must be used to fight for the rights of poor and the like. Devoting their life for such a purpose will give meaning to life. Corporate jobs make you a slave and hardly pay. It's really not worth it.
NLUD students have already realised this. It's high time others follow.
M ji 30 Jun 2020, 14:31
+7 -2
And I hope you are doing it
Guest 30 Jun 2020, 17:11
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Kian, your story is kind of incomplete because Sudhir is also appointing a heavy-duty list of alumni visiting profs.
Guest 30 Jun 2020, 18:04
+1 -1
Why aren't there many NALSAR alumni teaching at NALSAR? There are many brilliant alumni doing teaching and research within India itself. Why can't they be offered teaching positions?
Nalsarite 30 Jun 2020, 23:32
+1 -2
There are plenty from the llm and one or two from the llb. Educate yourself.
Guest 30 Jun 2020, 22:20
+1 -0
If you think this is impressive, wait till you see the visiting faculty Sudhir has lined up.
Newsfollower 30 Jun 2020, 22:35
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So the world has come a full circle for the angry tribe of law schoolites. After complaining about caste-based and community-based nepotism and sycophancy in appointments for years, they get one crack at VC-ship and unsurprisingly perpetuate a wave of alumni-based nepotism.

If 8 out of 9 offers are indeed law school alumni the whole appointment process is pretty much a sham and Sudhir is in the same mould as RVR. It is not only unfair to non-law schoolities but ironically is unfair to aspiring teachers who have graduated from other NLUS since this effectively closes the doors on their entry to law school for the next few years.

Speaking as a lawyer I do not believe this appointment will stand scrutiny by a court. For all his scholarship Sudhir has been careless in achieving his desire to get alumni, ignoring basic tenets of probity and bitten off more than he can chew.
Pragmatic View 1 Jul 2020, 10:58
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@ NewsFollower:
I strongly disagree with your questioning of the legality of the selection process, simply because most of the selected candidates happen to be NLSIU alumni. If any of the unsuccessful applicants in this round do decide to file a writ (probably in Karnataka HC), then it will fail, because there are really no formal legal objections that can be mounted here.

Let us first consider the selection process. The vacancies were advertised on February 1, 2020 and the shortlisted candidates were interviewed later that month (February 18, 19, 20 if I recall correctly). The shortlisting for the interviews was done on the basis of criteria laid down in the applicable UGC Regulations. There is nothing to suggest that there was anything amiss in the interviews. In fact, the Selection Committee for the Law positions consisted of credible external members such as Dr. N.S. Gopalakrishnan, Dr. Kamala Sankaran and Dr. Poonam Saxena. It stands to reason that the Selection Committee would have recorded its reasons for prioritising certain candidates. Usually, such selection committees are asked to award scores under the applicable criterion. The recommendations made by the Selection Committee in February 2020 have now been considered and approved by the NLSIU Executive Council (EC) in its meeting held on June 27, 2020. So even if a judicial challenge is instituted, what do you expect the court to do? No sensible judge/bench is going to scrutinise the full record and second-guess the selections, since the laid down processes have been followed to the letter.

Even if one looks at the names and profiles of the candidates mentioned in this story, all of them have credible qualifications and track-records. There might in fact be some more names which have not been picked up by the whisper networks. As I had said in another comment in this thread, Kian Ganz should have waited for an official statement from NLSIU before publishing these names.

Have you considered the possibility that the selected candidates may have simply been picked because they have stronger records in teaching and research when compared to their competitors? This list is definitely far better than the very large pool of incompetent ad-hoc teachers accumulated during the RVR years. Most of them were there simply by virtue of personal proximity to a few Senior Professors or through servility shown at the right times. I gathered that several of them have already left for other institutions since Sudhir Krishnaswamy joined as Vice-Chancellor in September 2019. A few others applied in this selection process and finally faced serious scrutiny after several years of receiving bad feedback from students and publishing in predatory journals. So the length of experience as an ad-hoc teacher does not mean that they have an automatic right to permanent positions. Their annual contacts say so in explicit terms. The few good ones (at least the 3 names mentioned here) have been suitably given better service-conditions. So Sudhir is actually cleaning up the mess left by his predecessor.

If any of the unsuccessful applicants are reading these comments, please do not make the mistake of filing frivolous cases against this selection process. You will only be wasting your own time and money, which is better spent in looking for jobs at other institutions. I say this as someone who has seen these selection processes (both as an applicant and an interviewer) for nearly two decades.
Guest 1 Jul 2020, 11:47
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Bhai, don't feed the troll. Everybody knows litigation won't do any good in this case.
Guest 1 Jul 2020, 12:12
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True. But what I think some of the posters are objecting to is that the entire list, or at least a large majority, happen to be from the same institution as both the VC and Registrar. That means that prima facie something seems off.

That said, given that the institution in question is NLSIU, such posters need to rethink whether the 'in-breeding' might just be due to competence.

Again, that said, I hope the entire list isn't people from NLSIU as the optics would be bad. Any perceived bias in favour of in-house candidates may turn away genuinely good people, who aren't alumni, from applying in the future. And that would lead towards real 'in-breeding' warned about in the books quoted above.
Nothingtohide 1 Jul 2020, 17:05
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If they have nothing to hide then they shouldn’t be afraid of legal scrutiny.
Narayan20 1 Jul 2020, 22:29
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@Newsfollower

Interesting Comment. If these numbers are accurate, superficially at least the appointment process seems prone to be set aside. It is a fit example of an act lacking the appearance of fairness and that in itself is sufficient for annulment.
Guest 2 Jul 2020, 05:00
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But I thought you said earlier that it is an excellent initiative that NLSIU is recruiting alumni after they have worked/studied elsewhere! Now I'm confused.
Guest 1 Jul 2020, 01:27
Troll
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I want to know if the people who are being hired without PhD have cleared UGC NET? If not, then they are not allowed to teach and a case can be filed. Also, if senior applicants have been overruled then a case can also be filed. Prima facie it seems like an [...] appointment that can be quashed.
Guest 2 Jul 2020, 12:47
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UGC NET is not a requirement as per BCI legal education regulations
Logical View 2 Jul 2020, 16:13
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All the applicants who have been offered permanent positions have either cleared UGC-NET or completed their PhD. Two candidates have only been offered contractual/ad-hoc positions which can be done for those without NET. The report makes a mistake by claiming that all offers are for permanent positions.
Guest 1 Jul 2020, 01:30
Troll
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Please be careful of Mr Kian Ganz. He has been influencing protests at various NLUs behind the scenes. He is now strategically leaking confidential info on faculty appointments to cause trouble. It seems the intention may be to pressure VCs to hire alumni as faculty.
Guest 1 Jul 2020, 02:53
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Whether Mrinal and Aparna leave NLUD will depend on who the next VC is. If Srividhya, they stay. If a TLC candidate, they leave.
Cassandra 1 Jul 2020, 07:15
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And what soothsayer told you that?
Guest 1 Jul 2020, 09:28
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Octopus Paul. I heard he makes occasional guest appearances in the comments section here.
Guest 1 Jul 2020, 02:57
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Apart from being NLSIU alumni, they are also alumni of top international universities: Yale, Oxford, Berkeley, SOAS and NUS Singapore. Very impressive!
Guest 1 Jul 2020, 05:00
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High time Faizan Mustafa follows suit. There are plenty of star NALSAR alumni who are teaching within India, at NLUD, JGLS, NUJS and elsewhere.
Student 2 1 Jul 2020, 06:24
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Those complaining that they aren't enough commercial law teachers, sudhir has convinced lot of alumni from litigation and corporate law firms to come down and teach, Karan and Rahul from trilegal will be teaching next trimester. Prashant from AZB, Promod Nair and the other peeps from Bangalore law firms are on board. So yeah teaching is the one area we don't have complaints against Sudhir :P
Voice from law school 1 Jul 2020, 07:37
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We want Nigam!!!
Guest 1 Jul 2020, 08:45
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Have patience everyone: many more alumni will be joining both as permanent and guest faculty.
Guest 1 Jul 2020, 10:03
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For what it's worth, I'm also happy to see a more balanced gender ratio in the people recruited/confirmed.
guesttt 1 Jul 2020, 18:46
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so from among all who applied , only NLS grads were found meritorious !!!
Guestttt 2 Jul 2020, 03:51
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@guesttt (44): res ipsa loquitor.
Guest 1 Jul 2020, 22:57
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Not only has Sudhir hired star faculty but also ensured regional diversity. Jaygo and Rao were very regionalist and only hired profs from the South and their own communities.
Stats Guru 1 Jul 2020, 23:50
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Below is an audit of the top 5 law NLUs in terms of alumni faculty. This is meant to guide law aspirants and the data is based on official website data. Corrections are welcome.

1) NLSIU: Names given above + Sudhir and Sarasu.

Verdict: Gold medal. Undisputed #1, no contest.

2) NALSAR: Only Sid Chauhan from NLSIU is a tier 1 NLU grad. Others are from lesser NLUs, such as NUJS (1 person), NLIU (1 person) and NLUJ (1 person). One is from HNLU, which is not even top 10 these days. However, the NUJS and NLUJ profs can possibly be upgraded to tier 1 status, since one has was worked in a top firm and has an LLM from a good UK university, while another has an LLM and PhD from a good European university.

Verdict: Good relative to other NLUs and possibly 3 profs with tier 1 status, but still below NLSIU. Deserves silver medal, but a distant #2.

3) NLUJ: 2 NLUJ alum, 1 GNLU alum and 2 HNLU alum, one of whom has an LLM with distinction from a good UK university.

Verdict: Bronze, but can easily bridge the gap with NALSAR with a few strategic hires.

4) NLUD: Lots of misleading propaganda posted by students. Website also seems to have incorrect info. It seems only 1 NLU grad teaches there as of now (Anoop Surendranath from NALSAR).

Verdict: Disqualified for cheating.

5) NUJS: What a joke! Former faculty are still listed as teaching and bios of most faculty are missing. Only Saurabh Bhattacharya seems to be a tier 1 NLU grad (NALSAR), while rest have done LLB, LLM and PhD all from NUJS, which is not at all a positive sign.

Verdict: Disqualified for cheating and incomplete info.

Based on the above, law aspirants should place NLSIU>NALSAR>NLUJ>NLUD>NUJS as their preference list in terms of faculty.
Guest 2 Jul 2020, 05:03
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Irctc ranking troll is back, judging tiers of law schools and positive signs about degrees while lacking qualification himself. The only joke here is firmly on you. You aren't qualified to judge any faculty quality.
Guest 2 Jul 2020, 06:00
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Your comment goes on to show how deficient you are in terms of actual knowledge about law schools. There is so much misinformation that I can't possibly address all of those. I will just give one illustrative example. Most of the LLB alumni currently teaching at NUJS who you cavalierly dismiss as tier two (without of course knowing anything at all about them, but since when have trolls needed research anyway?) had graduated from NUJS when it had been under the stewardship of Menon, Chimni or M.P. Singh. Even trolls who are more informed, and naysayers agree that in those days NUJS used to be one of the best places to study in. As for your comment, "while rest have done LLB, LLM and PhD all from NUJS," not that it means anything, but at present there is exactly one such person who has done thus and another who would possibly be shortly finished. As I said before, this is what happens when ignoramus people try to give 'advice' to law students without having any idea what they are talking about. As for those two people, anybody can ask their students what sort of teachers they are, or look up what sort of research they have done. As an alumnus who has been taught by both, I have found one of them to be good in what he does, and the other excellent. Your anonymous 'opinion' about their worth or anybody else's therefore counts for jack. By the way, Sarasu has also done all her degrees from the same place where she is teaching now. By your standards, that makes her incompetent too probably. You should just give it a rest and actually try looking for a job in real life.
Guest 2 Jul 2020, 07:54
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You may be right 46.2, but the website is not updated so it is confusing.
Guest 2 Jul 2020, 07:53
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Anup is not the only NLU grad teaching at NLUD. What rubbish and fake news! There are tons more -- Daniel (NLSIU), Chinmayi, Ankita and Arul (NALSAR), Neeraj (HNLU)... I can go on. And I am not even counting the countless guest lecturers. NLUD remains at the top in terms of faculty qualifications.
Huh? 2 Jul 2020, 11:39
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When most people use the term alum on these comments, they refer to LLB alum. Rightly, or wrongly. So you are moving the goalpost when you start including llm alum. Let us look at your list :

Daniel - NLS LL.M alum, though undoubtedly very good.
Chinmayi - has been away for more than 2 years. Latest news is she is doing her PhD abroad. Isn't likely to come back anytime soon. Was on contract anyway so it isn't likely that she still holds or will hold a position at nlud after that length of time.
Anikta - doesn't teach, at least not independently. [...]
Arul - NALSAR LL. M and Max Planck PhD. Is very good.
Neeraj - is not from HNLU. Did his LL. M from ILI. Doesn't have a PhD.

So no, NLUD does not remain at the top in terms of faculty qualifications. That said, it does have some very good faculty, who are very good even if they don't have fancy degrees. But the number of good faculty are dwindling, and have been for some time. In my time, nlud had babu Mathew, sitharam, Mrinal, Aparna, Akila, Chinmayi, and Neha in addition to the ones there now. All of them have now left. Chinmayi left for higher studies and it is in the nature of the field that such attrition takes place. But for all others - nlud couldn't retain them. I don't know why Mrinal and Aparna are leaving. Sure Sudhir might be exciting, but RS seems to have given them a fairly free hand in doing their own thing at NLUD too. I know some of the ones remaining are also considering moving. Instead of burying our heads in the sand, we should be asking why people don't want to stay. I suspect the answer will be as uncomfortable for the current lot of students as it will be for the admin.
anon2020 8 Jul 2020, 16:11
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Adding to what I said earlier, while I do not know where they got their degrees from, Arul and YP are phenomenal.
Guest 8 Jul 2020, 16:22
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Oh, here people don't really care about how good a teacher an individual actually is, didn't you know? It's all about NLUs and pedigrees and foreign LLMs.
Guest 2 Jul 2020, 12:26
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Don't forget Ruhi Paul and Sophy Joseph
Guest 3 Jul 2020, 17:28
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Ruhi is not an LLB graduate from any NLU. Sophy has done her LLM from NALSAR, but not sure where her LLB is from.
anon2020 8 Jul 2020, 16:09
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Sophy had a stint at NLS, probably LLM/ one of the other masters they offer.
Guest 3 Jul 2020, 17:26
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Daniel is not an NLSIU LLB Grad. He's done his LLM from there. Chinmayi does not teach at NLUD at present. Arul has not done his LLB from NALSAR either. Can you give it a rest with the fake news? At least check their profiles before making ridiculous claims!
anon2020 8 Jul 2020, 16:08
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Hi, While Danny and Punj take the juris course together, Danny does not teach, but only handles projects (in both semesters). He does not teach arbitration anymore. While he did offer one seminar last semester, it did not have enough takers (I think, the course never happened effectively). Chinmayi is not part of college I think, and she has not taught courses in the last 4-5 years anyway.
Guest 2 Jul 2020, 11:33
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https://theprint.in/opinion/one-look-at-allahabad-university-will-show-academic-inbreeding-is-ruining-india/451092/?fbclid=IwAR3-tz1Wuva6hW8JqjpljO2DC5VoTBnuXh9qqoRcXBiyQAkI-O06ccVrCkY
Guest 2 Jul 2020, 15:46
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YouTube is full of videos on how to cheat during online exams. Kian, here is how you can do to the story of the century: watch these videos for tips, then register yourself and a friend for the exam, then cheat together, then show it to the world.
Guest 4 Jul 2020, 11:40
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NLUD is still #1 in faculty if visiting professors and guest lecturers are included. I request LI to give the true picture by highlighting the stellar individuals who have taught short courses and given one-time guest lectures in the past 2 years. NLSIU and NALSAR will not match up as most their short courses are in human rights and constitutional law.
anon2020 5 Jul 2020, 08:41
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Hi,
It is true that we have fantastic people offering seminar courses to the fourth and fifth years. But hardly any good teachers in the first 3 years apart from Anup, Sophy, Neeraj (pretty decent). And there is no point talking about one time guest lectures, it is as good as a YouTube lecture. Plus we really have not had more than maybe 3 good lectures in the last 2 years Even when SY Qureshi or Gopal Subramaniam came, not more than 50 and 100 (for the latter) students turned up.
I enjoyed my time at NLUD, but let us not beef up irrelevant information. If you were to say that we have fantastic people like YP, Arul, AK Rai, I understand.
Legally Namaste 4 Jul 2020, 13:09
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What NLSIU is doing is blatantly illegal and unconstitutional. A write petition in KHC should be able to stop this recruitment.

NLSIU is an autonomous but State Government owned Law School, So all Government rules for recruitment including reservations (50%) must apply. NLSIU should not be able to prefer thier own alumni with top degrees from abroad or worked at top places over local LLM students. (In any way they cannot prefer)

Since the University comes under the definition of (State) they should only be allowed to recruit via proper procedures. It's not a Private Law School and more than that these are for permanent jobs not contractual ones.

If you see the list, it's full of people who have foreign degrees and Top 6 NLU UG degrees. It's okay for a private University to prefer a Top NLU LLB/FOREIGN LLM degree candidate. But NLSIU cannot, as it will be arbitrary. Equal opportunity in recruitment is a must, especially in a Government job.

A local LLM guy may not be preferred when it comes to Jindal. But in NLSIU LLM Guy's should be = to Foreign LLM Grads. Recruitment to a Government job is not a joke. And it cannot be based on arbitrary criterion.
Pragmatic View 4 Jul 2020, 14:04
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@ Legally Namaste: There was a reason behind constituting NLSIU under a separate enactment passed in 1986. Even though it has the legal character of a State University, the statutory objective was to ensure a national profile in the composition of its faculty, students and staff. In that sense, it is different from the larger State Universities that come under the Government of Karnataka. The NLSIU Executive Council (EC) includes the Law Secretary and Higher Education Secretary from the State Government apart from several serving and retired SC and HC Judges. If they have approved the faculty appointments, they must have applied their mind to this issue.

NLSIU is under no obligation to reserve faculty positions for applicants who have done their LL.M. or Ph.D. in Karnataka. Why should the institution not recruit the best possible pool? Even if you want regional representation for symbolic reasons, please examine the names mentioned in this report.

At least 4 out of these 9 people have been born in Karnataka and pursued most of their education (upto B.A., LL.B.) in the same State, before going outside for higher education and professional opportunities. At least 2 others have now lived in Karnataka for more than 10+ years and would be eligible under the ordinary domicile rules. Only 3 names (who are all NLSIU LL.B. graduates and have spent at least five years in Karnataka) come from other States. So the principle of regional representation has been respected in spirit and substance.
Legaaallly Namaste 4 Jul 2020, 19:04
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It's not about reserving faculty seats for people from Karnataka. It's about following proper Government guidelines on conducting a permanent recruitment.

To give offer letters this is not a private law firm where if the management feels a person is good, he can be selected. This is a job in a state owned body. So, proper guidelines should be followed.

A person who studied LLM in Harvard or Oxford can be prefered over someone who studied in Rizvi Law College by Jindal or such private school.

But when it comes to NLSIU or any NLU autonomous or not, it's illegal to give preference for college. In NLSIU recruitment a guy from Rizviv(LLM) should be equal = Harvard. Because there cannot be any arbitrary factor when it comes to permanent appointment for a Government job. This list shows that they preferred some of thier graduates to others, even that is illegal.

Any permanent job vacancy should be advertised to the public and everyone should have equal access to the appointment. Brownie points cannot be given for studying in a Top 3 NLU/ Ivy League LLM or even winning the Jessup. It's a Government recruitment. Maybe in a private set up these can be criteria. Not for a Government job.

A Writ petition is more than enough to stop this elitist appointment.

I hope you understood.
Pragmatic View 4 Jul 2020, 23:11
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These positions were advertised publicly (on February 1, 2020) through official channels and the applicants were shortlisted and interviewed as per UGC norms on February 18, 19 and 20. The Selection Committees consisted of credible external members and the usual criteria laid down in the applicable UGC Regulations (latest notification was in July 2018) was followed. Points are given to candidates as per the prescribed parameters (academic qualifications, teaching/research experience, publications in credible peer-reviewed journals, involvement in research projects, conference participation and the like). Performance in the interview is only one sub-category.

So if candidates have been selected after following the established procedures, I don't really understand your objections. It seems that you are trying to encourage unsuccessful applicants to initiate frivolous litigation against the University. Under the present circumstances, that is very bad advice. In any case you seem to be unaware of both the law and facts that are in issue.
Guest 5 Jul 2020, 11:40
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How hard it is to understand - these types were all followed in the past as well; if in one such scenarios everyone turned out to be from University X, the same place from which the VC and registrar came. Would people object? That is exactly what are grudge (at NALSAR) was - all Kakatiya.

Justice should not only be done, but all be seen to be done wali baat hai. Ab jo samajhna chahta hai, woh samajh gaya hai. Not saying it is definitely wrong, but it sure seems so. Plus, in-breeding issues as highlighted previously.
Practical View 5 Jul 2020, 15:33
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In-breeding is nothing more than a quibble. Yes, maybe long term strategies should minimise that in the quest for a robust academic culture. But that in no way holds any water for the legality of a public recruitment exercise. For instance, a batch of the Indian Foreign Service in the 1970s or 1980s would have had an overwhelming majority of recruits from St Stephens. Will you challenge that?
Guest 6 Jul 2020, 01:21
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No. I won't challenge that or this. Doesn't mean I can't have a conversation about it.
Guest 5 Jul 2020, 11:43
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Plus, Raag's inclusion, in a permanent position, really causes concerns around fairness. I know won Jessup and got Rhodes, but neither by itself is a substitute for experience. A move into academics could have been initiated through a contract to begin with.
Why? 5 Jul 2020, 14:24
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The list of qualifications for Assistant Professor does not require one to show full time teaching experience. It would be a total Catch-22 if it did - "you need experience to be an entry-level professor, but only way you can gain experience is by being an entry-level professor". As long as Raag has the requisite eligibility (ie LLM + UGC-NET or a PhD in lieu of UGC-NET), he is eligible to be appointed to an Assistant Professor-level permanent post. In any case, I'm sure he has some teaching experience already - most DPhil/PhD courses have a teaching requirement that they must fulfill.
Guest 5 Jul 2020, 15:38
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Eligibility, yes. Comparative superiority over more experienced candidates, no.
well indeed 6 Jul 2020, 04:09
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He's eligible. Where does it say that his profile was given preference over someone who has been teaching for 3 years at some TLC? They are both treated at par in the objective points based system. Raag evidently performed better in the interview, so cumulatively, his scores have ranked him higher. Hence, he has been selected.
Guest 6 Jul 2020, 05:31
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What is this objective point based system? How exactly does teaching experience fare in it vis a vis say, publications, or Rhodes?
Practical View 6 Jul 2020, 07:30
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Please see the previous comments on this very thread about the objective points-based system that is followed (UGC guidelines, in fact). If teaching experience is a relevant metric for the grade of Assistant Professor, then all applicants will be marked on that. It doesn't matter if Raag was conducting tutorials at Oxford for BCL/BA in Jurisprudence students, he would get the same points as some other applicant teaching on contract basis at Christ Law for the same duration. I doubt there are any provisions for marking Rhodes or Jessup. These objective metrics are very easy to score. The differentiation will be in the interview.
Guest 6 Jul 2020, 08:45
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UGC doesn't award points for any kind of contractual teaching unless the person did so under the nomenclature of Assistant Professor or above or equivalent thereof. Even if such teaching has taken place in Oxbridge.
Practical View 6 Jul 2020, 12:31
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Then Raag would not be awarded points for that, if he has no such experience. Perhaps his interview was outstanding that he ended up scoring so well on it, that it pushed up his overall marks to outrank a competing applicant.
Sigh 6 Jul 2020, 13:59
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You do understand these interviews were 5 -10 minutes long?
Guest 6 Jul 2020, 14:13
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Then it would be no different from many others who ended up getting into government jobs based on miraculously high scores in interviews. And you can guess what such inductees are called.
Oho 7 Jul 2020, 02:56
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Please do tell me where credible government recruitment involved "miraculously high scores", presumably to indulge in favouratism/nepotism, as you seem to be insinuating? Some Class 4 staff recruitment by Govt of UP sort of thing, notwithstanding.
Guest 5 Jul 2020, 00:34
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Bechara TLC.
Guest 5 Jul 2020, 06:53
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Fancy words from someone who asks how high every time a TLC judge asks him to jump.
Practical View 5 Jul 2020, 14:28
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Where is it that NLS has given any preference to alumni or which college they got their LLMs from? LLM from Allahabad University and LLM from Cambridge amount to the same - equal weightage will be given. This list has the people who topped the points-tally after being interviewed by a mixed panel of internal and external subject experts. Just because LegallyIndia touts the Jessup or Rhodes background of a candidate, doesn't mean that those were the deciding criteria. Only the objective criteria laid down in advance - the points-based system which includes the interview component will be used for consideration. It does not follow, that people from a similar academic profile have been arbitrarily preferred. The interview score-sheets will reflect this.
Guest 5 Jul 2020, 15:39
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Which are not going to be released anyway, so there is no way to conclusively determine whether nepotism has really played a role or not.
Guest 6 Jul 2020, 01:22
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True. But it definitely seems to have.
Practical View 6 Jul 2020, 03:19
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So you're claim is "I know illegal things are being done, but I don't have the evidence to back up my claim. This lack of evidence with me proves the illegality of what happened.". This is textbook tautology. In any case, this information can be obtained through a simple RTI request, especially if you are a candidate.
Guest 6 Jul 2020, 05:29
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Actually, the lack of evidence doesn't prove that, but the fact that almost all the selected candidates have a common alma mater with the VC and the Registrar is certainly prima facie indication of irregularity. Of course it is not conclusive proof. It is not tautology at all.
Not really 6 Jul 2020, 07:04
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I’m not OP, but I don’t think that’s a fair characterisation of his argument. To prove any allegation you’ll need adequate discovery right? And he has no way of getting that information unless law school makes it public. And law school has decided to not make any information about these hires public yet. It is fair to point out that in the absence of that information - the pattern with all those hired seems to be that they are law school alumni- and that might be biased.
And as things stand law schools are not the most transparent bodies that provide all this information on who scores how much at what criterion. So it’s not exactly unfair criticism. It’s perhaps a little hasty- but it’s not unfair.

I know other NLU alumni who applied who haven’t heard back - and they were plenty qualified so one does have to wonder if [...] just went with people [...] knew.
Guest 6 Jul 2020, 06:32
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Nice to see the TLC mafia send its keyboard hitmen on this board.