NLSIU sews up 39 jobs for 2020 after Day Zero, PPOs • Trend or fluke: No int’l vac schemes (yet?)

NLS RCC takes advantage of bullish law firms, places record number
NLS RCC takes advantage of bullish law firms, places record number

NLSIU Bangalore students have landed a record 44 jobs after Day Zero and Day One of recruitment for careers beginning in 2020, across most of the large law firms and companies.

A total of 58 students are taking part in recruitment activities this year, out of a total batch of 80, according to the Recruitment Coordination Committee (RCC).

The largest recruiter was L&L Partners, which hired 9 via pre-placement offers and another 3 from campus on Day Zero.

Shardul Amarchand Mangaldas and Trilegal both hired 7 each (with the majority via PPOs), while Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas picked up 6 students (of whom 5 came directly via campus Day Zero).

Khaitan & Co hired 3 students, followed by AZB & Partners with 2, and 1 each by S&R Associates and Talwar Thakore & Associates.

After Day Zero, another 5 offers have come in via campus interviews with Argus Law, ICICI Bank and French bank Societe Generale.

The recruitment committee said that the bank jobs could expect packages between Rs 12 - 16 lakh (while those at the top firms would get packages from Rs 15 to 18 lakh).

NLS’ result is numerically an improvement on last year’s Day Zero tally of 36 top domestic law firm jobs (excluding Day One recruiters such as ICICI, which brought the total to roughly the same as this year’s, at 46).

But unusually, compared to other top NLUs, the NLS RCC has not reported any high-paying foreign law firm vacation schemes so far this year.

No foreign jobs (yet?)

An RCC member explained that since foreign jobs were procured independently of the RCC, it could not make a comment or offer an accurate explanation on why there were no vacation schemes or training contracts in the batch so far. However, one student said that fewer NLS students may have applied for foreign jobs this year than in previous years, though they could not confirm exact numbers since most students applied for vacation schemes by themselves.

On the other hand, it’s possible NLS students were just unlucky this year in their overseas applications, though last year at the same time only one NLS student had secured a vacation scheme out of 46 jobs but was considering dropping this for a domestic job offer (the year before that, NLS had 3 vacation schemes by Day Zero).

If it is indeed becoming a trend that NLS graduates are becoming more interested in remaining in India rather than the traditional exodus of toppers abroad, it may only be possible to corroborate it by later in the recruitment season. If so, it would be an interesting - if surprising - sign that foreign jobs may be losing their lustre compared to a booming Indian market, despite near-starting at annual salaries of Rs 42 lakh.

The other Day Zero figures we have reported so far this year, have seen schools such as Nalsar Hyderabad pick up a record 8 foreign placements.

However, while at most RCCs those figures are generally reported as part of Day Zero, we understand that at most NLUs, foreign jobs are generally secured independently by students without much assistance from the RCCs (perhaps in part because foreign firms have their own streamlined online processes for applications).

And, at least anecdotally, compared to 10 years ago, it seems that toppers from the top NLUs have increasingly also considered careers at the bar, which may offer more interesting opportunities coupled with network effects from alumni who are doing rather well there.

RCC hopes placements will continue to diversify

The NLSIU recruitment committee consists of, as pictured above: Ashim Gupta, Samriddhi Shukla, Akash Jain (top row, l to r), and Neha Lodha, Niharika Sharma, Aishwarya Dixit, Dhanush Dinesh (front row).

“We are forever grateful to the Recruitment Class of 2020 for their continued faith in us, and hope that placements at the NLSIU continue to grow and diversify,” commented the committee in a statement. They added:

Credit must be given where it is due, and it goes without saying that these achievements would not be possible without the continued support of the Vice Chancellor of the University, our Internship and Placement Co-ordinator Dr. V. S. Elizabeth, and the other administrative staff, who made organising the respective recruitment days incredibly smooth. We continue to be grateful to our ever-growing alumni network, whose guidance and support has made NLSIU the institution that it is today. Additionally, we thank all the firms that participated in the recruitment process for their continued interest and co-operation.

The 22 students in the NLSIU batch of 80 who are not participating in the of RCC activities 22 are likely to go for a mix of LLMs, the bar, judiciary and civil services exams, said a campus source, though it was too early in the year to provide a full breakdown.

Other NLU days zero so far

NLS Day Zero & One figures

RecruiterPPOsDay ZeroDay OneTotal
AZB & Partners22
Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas156
Khaitan & Co123
L&L Partners9312
S&R Associates11
Shardul Amarchand Mangaldas527
Talwar Thakore & Associates11
Trilegal527
Argus Law11
ICICI Bank22
Société Générale22
Total2316544

Comments

Fake news 19 Apr 2019, 09:51
+6 -23
Kian, please do not report foreign offers for any law school until NLSIU and NUJS declare the figures. You are misleading people during the crucial CLAT season. Going by your reporting, the leaderboard so far is NALSAR>NLUJ>GNLUJ>NLSIU>NUJS, when the final "medal tally" is likely to be NLSIU>NALSAR>NUJS>NLUD>NLUJ>GNLU>NLIU. This is making coaching centres spread misinformation and also tampering with the "perception" score for the next NIRF in 2020.
René Higuita 19 Apr 2019, 10:02
+26 -0
Can't you count?? GNLU has more offers than nluj
René Higuita 19 Apr 2019, 10:15
+31 -2
Bhai, I'm sure you have better things to do than worry about what some weird coaching institutes and random aspirants think. NLS, Nalsar and nujs will always be the best. So why are you worrying so much? Calm down and finish that Corp law assignment before end sems.
Guest 19 Apr 2019, 09:57
+6 -29
Looks like no foreign law firms made offers. End of dominance for NLSIU. Rise of GNLU and NLUJ. This is new India. End of arrogance, entitlement and dynasty culture. Rewards for hard work and humble origins.
René Higuita 19 Apr 2019, 10:10
+19 -3
Excluding PPOs and offers from institutions like Robert half legal,Mzm, Desai and diwanji, ICICI, Nluj lands at 35 while all tier 1 recruitments at GNLU stand at 44. (+5 Indus Law at day 1) Nalsar and Gnlu have best placements so far.
Guest 19 Apr 2019, 10:01
+4 -5
NIRF must be made aware that NLSIU is NOT #1 in placements. A PIL must be filed seeking that NIRF is given accurate data vetted by an honest third party.
kianganz 19 Apr 2019, 10:25
+12 -1
I think placement figures are a useful metric, but there's honestly very little to tell the top half dozen or so NLUs apart in terms of Day Zero performance. Differences of 5 or 10 jobs here or there are really not any indication of recruitment strength, considering they have widely differing batch sizes also.

Days Zero alone (excluding Day One, excluding foreign jobs for NLS but including for others):
NLS: 39 out of 58 RCC subscribers already placed is basically 67% (or 49% of the total batch of 80).
GNLU: 44 out of 82 RCC members is about 54% (or 26% of the entire batch of 170ish).
NLU Jodhpur: 42 out of 60 subscribers is 70% (or 42% of entire batch of 101)
NUJS: Around 65 out of an unknown number of subscribers (or 54% of entire batch of 120)
Nalsar: 47 jobs out of 69 subscribers is 68% (or 41% out of batch of 113)

In short, all are in very similar ballparks, and any differences in absolute numbers are mostly balanced out by differing batch sizes, meaning that the opportunities available to individual students joining are very similar (and perhaps even a tad greater at NLS due to the smaller batch).

As regards foreign jobs, yes, it's worth taking these into account, though training contract and vac scheme sample sizes are smaller and can therefore fluctuate more year by year and are never guaranteed (nor do they have that much to do with the institution, unless it provides coaching or assistance with those applications).

Yes, I think Days Zero are a very useful indicator of performance and opportunities available to toppers, but the more important numbers for the typical students joining are what happens to the rest of a batch, including those who don't subscribe to the RCC, to build a picture of career opportunities available.

But then again, I generally don't believe much in the usefulness of absolute rankings in these scenarios.
Babu Bhaiya 19 Apr 2019, 17:15
+9 -2
Sorry for being judgmental but either you're so incompetent that you're wasting your life in a below average law school having not cleared CLAT to enter even TNNLS in your third attempt, wholly ignorant of how a PIL works or just very high on paint fumes.
For NLSIU 19 Apr 2019, 10:26
+7 -12
[img]https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/515tLb-Z-TL._SX425_.jpg[/img]
Get over 19 Apr 2019, 10:27
+7 -8
Legally India report looks like an apology for why NLSIU could not secure firang offers. LI is unable to digest the fact that the so called lower rung law schools like NLU J and GNLU could get foreign offers but not its blue eyed college. what a disgusting reportage this is. Shame
kianganz 19 Apr 2019, 10:41
+11 -3
Unlike what some may think, we're not actually getting our kicks from stoking unhealthy law school rivalries but we aim to provide transparency that will be useful for applicants and students and recruiters. Nor do we have any loyalties to NLS any more than any other law school, and I think our critical reporting of what goes on in the institution generally reflects that :)

However, I do personally think it's highly unlikely that student quality at NLS would have dropped so drastically that no foreign firm wanted to recruit from there (yet), considering NLS is still top in the CLAT preferences every year. So it's more likely that it's either that foreign firms are getting less popular (which is possible at NLS, though also seems unlikely) or that it's a random aberration. Would be keen if anyone from the 2020 batch has some insight on that...
NLS2020 19 Apr 2019, 11:12
+12 -1
I think placements depend a lot on the batch preferences too. A general observation was that Batch of 2020 is just less commercially inclined than NALSAR and NUJS, which makes vac schemes less likely. Domestically too, there was a dearth of firms offering disputes teams which was the majority preference. Most Tier I firms were offering jobs in General Corporate. A lot of people prefer civil services/public law research.
Guest 19 Apr 2019, 12:21
+2 -1
Just reveal the number of applicants for VS in the 2020 batch and that will speak for itself, I guess. At both NLSIU and NUJS, fewer people applied for VS from 2020 batch from what I know. In fact, A&O people have remarked about that.
Insider 19 Apr 2019, 11:37
+6 -0
It won't be correct to look at NLS placements (or any other law school placements door that matter) and say that the quality has fallen. It also means that people are now more open to considering alternative career paths instead of going to law firms, which is a strong indicator of what kind of academic environment that institution can offer to its students.
Visa L. 19 Apr 2019, 11:58
+4 -1
Kian, I do not know your motivation or have no intention to cast any aspersion, but purely from a technical perspective, by bundling vacation schemes with training contracts (as you are casually doing in case of NALSAR etc.), you are committing a mistake. Those get converted a lot less these days into TCs than they used to before. So till they do, NALSAR can be said at max to have 3 foreign placements, and NLUJ and GNLU one each. I know you have mentioned this in between lines, but the overall impression being given is quite different.
Also, I told you about the declining application for VS among tier one law schools' top students, remember? There's also another reason for NLSIU and NUJS RPC's reservation. Most students securing TCs join there one year after graduation and at least some of them like to spend that year working at a tier one indian firm. Thses firms tend to withdraw offers made if they know of this. Hence the students try to be as discreet as possible these days. Unless all the NALSAR, NLUJ and GNLU students having secured TCs have no interest in working for Indian firms like that, their RPCs actually missed a trick in revealing that info to you, because sure as hell domestic firms keep an eye out here.
Guest 19 Apr 2019, 14:03
+1 -3
Student quality is not the issue. The issue is whether a bright student is willing to work hard or just take life for granted by virtue of being admitted in an elite college and be arrogant and lazy. Merit is nothing without hard work, which is why nlsiu is dipping.
Guest 19 Apr 2019, 10:37
+19 -2
[img]https://i.imgflip.com/2yywlm.jpg[/img]
Guest 19 Apr 2019, 10:41
+2 -6
NLSIU placements are not as superior as they once were. In fact, it's completely feasible for NLSIU to lose its top slot in the long run, just as IIMB and IIMC lost theirs to IIMA.
Guest 19 Apr 2019, 10:45
+2 -11
I hope this makes NLSIU students come down to earth and agree to a joint #NationaliseNLUs protest. The #NationaliseNLUs movement has stalled because of the reluctance of NLSIU students to participate, out of a sense of superiority.


[img]https://i.imgur.com/9HZD02y.png[/img]
Babu Bhaiya 24 Apr 2019, 14:33
+7 -0
https://www.sci.gov.in/pdf/PublicationOther/proceeding_book051018.pdf
Guest 24 Apr 2019, 21:38
+0 -0
excellent source. thanks for sharing.
Noojie 19 Apr 2019, 10:45
+22 -1
Looking at the percentages rather than absolute numbers is a better metric. NLS, NUJS, Nalsar have similar percentages in that regard and thus stronger placements, even though NLUJ and GNLU come close in terms of absolute numbers.
Stats Expert 19 Apr 2019, 14:49
+7 -8
Kian, please clarify how you will do your placement ranking. In my view, you should use the following methodology for calculating the medals tally. You can also crowdsource for suggestions.


Gold medal status (15 points for each:
1 ) TCs
2) Rhodes, Felix, Chevening, Commonwealth and Gates scholarships.
3) Offers from MckInsey, Goldman, JP Morgan, Bain or Boston Consulting.

Silver medal (10 points for each)
1) Big 7
2) Big 4 accounting firms: PwC, Deloitte, EY and KPMG
3) Worldwide Fortune 1000 companies
4) Any scholarship at one of the world's top 10 law schools per QS, awarding 100% tuition + 100% living costs.

Bronze medal (5 points for each):
1) Fortune India 500 company
2) Any full or partial scholarship at one of the world's top 20 law schools per QS
3) A set of leading non-Big 7 firms

Non-medal points, tier 1 (2 points for each):
1) SC or HC judicial clerkship
2) Any Senior Advocate's chamber
3) Any full or partial scholarship at one of the world's top 100 law schools per QS
4) Any NGO
5) Any other law firm or company

Non-medal points, tier 2 (1 point for each):
1) Any other job
2) Any other placement or LLM offer with or without scholarship
Guest 19 Apr 2019, 15:50
+9 -2
There's going to be no placement ranking. Because barring a few obsessed people like you, nobody cares. And it achieves no positive purpose whatsoever. You seem to be the product of this unfortunate system who gets indigestion unless you can make a rank list with every passing breath. All the news about placements are there. Prospective students can make their decision from those. Nobody else cares.
Guest 19 Apr 2019, 16:38
+5 -2
Landing a high court JC and SC JC are not one and the same thing. The very point that you seem to believe that it is reveals your ignorance about the industry outside limited areas. Why should a job at HSF or Allen Overy be marked higher than someone who's doing a JC under judges like Chandrachud? The latter is giving back much more to the society and law in general compared to the former. And are you honestly comparing a Rhodes scholarship with a training contract or McKinsey job?
Old timer 21 Apr 2019, 07:16
+6 -1
It is really sad to see students or alumni from the various law schools attacking each other in this childish fashion. The inability of us Indians to appreciate others achievements and celebrate others successes is one of the reasons which prevents us from being more than the sum of our parts. We continue to enjoy pulling each other down and for some reason feel that if someone else is considered to be good, that makes you a failure or lesser than them. Doesn’t bode well for the future.
Guest 21 Apr 2019, 09:34
+2 -1
We are all crabby crabs. At least bulk of LI commentators are.
Guest 22 Apr 2019, 03:52
+0 -1
Kian, I am disappointed that you are not covering the RGNUl issue reported by Bar & Bench. Unprecedented and disturbing allegations have been raised against the de facto #2 of the college.
Guest 1 May 2019, 23:39
+1 -0
Kian any news of JGLS recruitment? It will be very helpful as those who cannot clear CLAT will have to take a call on whether paying 40 lakhs is worth it.
Guest 2 May 2019, 04:03
+1 -0
Students who are good can get internships from there, which can be converted into PPOs. That's how it has worked for most who have secured placements from there during the past few years. The admin there is actually the only admin among law schools to actively help in the placement process.