NLU D Prof Mrinal Satish’s Judicial Academy chairmanship writted: Not enough experience since 2001 NLS degree (unless Chief waives it)

Prima facie, the DJA rules were relaxed to appoint Mrinal Satish as chairman
Prima facie, the DJA rules were relaxed to appoint Mrinal Satish as chairman

The 20 December 2018 appointment of NLU Delhi Prof Mrinal Satish as chairperson of the Delhi Judicial Academy (DJA) has been challenged in the Delhi high court on around two weeks ago, by the NGO Agam An Initiative for Good Governance, claiming that he did not fulfil the minimum experience requirements of the role, according to The Hindu and Bar & Bench.

That may indeed be true, according to the DJA’s rules, which limits the post of chairpersons to either former judges below 70, or “distinguished academician[s]” with a minimum of 30 years teaching experience and at least 10 years as a professor of law.

Satish is a 2001 NLSIU Bangalore graduate (decorated with the Madhu Bhasin Noble Student Award for excellence in academics), with LLM and doctoral degrees from Yale Law School (the former under an Inlaks scholarship), who has taken the two year term appointment to head the DJA on full-time deputation from NLU Delhi, where he was professor of law. Between 2007 and 2009, he had joined the National Judicial Academy (NJA) Bhopal as an assistant professor, under then-chairperson Prof Mohan Gopal, and had previously also taught at NLSIU, under a Mahtma Gandhi National Law Teaching Fellowship.

Notwithstanding his academic achievements, his biography and undergraduate graduation in 2001 does probably make it physically impossible, as the petition suggests, for him to have had more than 30 years of teaching experience in the last 18 years (we were not able to confirm exactly how many years he has been a professor, though that is likely to also fall short of the required 10 years).

However, the crux of the matter will be whether the patron-in-chief of the DJA - in this case the Delhi high court’s chief justice - exercised his wide powers under its internal rules.

Notably, in respect of nearly all functions of the DJA, the chief justice enjoys nearly unfettered powers to relax the qualification requirements or other rules (screenshot below).

The matter came up before the Delhi high court chief justice Rajendra Menon on 12 April. Menon sensibly recused himself, since he can hardly rule on and give evidence of whether or not he had sanctioned Satish’s appointment, and fixed the matter for hearing today before Justice Ravindra Bhat.

Bhat issued notice, with the next hearing scheduled for August.

Ultimately, it does seem as though it’ll be a pretty straightforward case: either the chief is happy with Satish’s appointment, or not.

If it is the former, then even if the appointment wasn’t formally sanctioned by Menon (as he may or may not testify in an affidavit or witness statement before the court), the powers the CJ enjoys under the DJA rules might just mean he could wave a magic wand and cure the defect (perhaps even retrospectively), if no other impropriety is unearthed.

However, considering this also concerns the judiciary, that process could take longer than one might expect.

The DJA is a state judicial academy that was created to train mostly Delhi-based judges (though it is understood to sometimes also conduct training sessions for judges from other states). This is in contrast to the NJA in Bhopal, which exists to provide continuing legal and professional education to all judges in India.

Predecessors of Satish in the role are professors Ved Kumari, MP Singh and Bhushan Tilak Kaul.

Satish declined to comment when contacted.

It all boils down to: Did the Chief relax the requirements or not?
It all boils down to: Did the Chief relax the requirements or not?

Comments

Another NLS star 22 Apr 2019, 14:45
+12 -2
Over the last several weeks, Legally India has reported on several path-breaking achievements of a few brilliant NLS alum. This is yet another exceptional feat — a top Indian legal academic being recognised for his credentials and experience.

Of course, this means sour grapes for some who have filed this ridiculous petition (is it spite, jealousy or both?).

It is also telling that it took a court challenge for LegallyIndia to report on this fantastic achievement in academia whereas it reports instantly on all kinds of partner promotions in random law firms.

Congrats, Mrinal!
kianganz 22 Apr 2019, 14:50
+5 -0
Haha, we actually hadn't heard about it - it's been an appointment that's been kept fairly quiet...

In any case, law firm partners and what they get up to are LI's raison d'etre and something most of our readers come here for, so we'll keep primarily keep covering those (in addition to any other interesting developments in the legal market that pique our curiosity). Do let us know anytime we're missing something via the anonymous tip button on the top left or in a comment marked not for publication.
greenie 22 Apr 2019, 14:48
+18 -0
the most non-controversial boy in law school is in the centre of a supreme court controversy. in any case it is not his fault. and he is a good guy.
A great first! 22 Apr 2019, 14:55
+14 -0
NLS gets its first Vice Chancellor (DJA Chairperson is equivalent to a Central University VC)!

This is great news for all young Indian academics!

As for this challenge in the High Court, jealousy is a very dangerous thing...
Guest 22 Apr 2019, 15:15
+15 -1
Jealousy and all is fine, but the petitioner does have a point insofar as procedure is concerned, unless the CJ comes out and admits of having used his discretionary power. Satish is a deserving candidate by all means, so even if CJ did bend the law to get him in, that's still acceptable I guess.
Obvious 23 Apr 2019, 05:28
+1 -1
Does the Chief Justice really need to "come out and admit" he exercised his discretion. It is the Chief Justice of the Delhi High Court who appointed him and issued the final notification. Isn't it obvious then that the Chief Justice exercised his discretion in view of Professor Satish's exceptional qualifications and credentials?
Guest 23 Apr 2019, 06:25
+4 -0
Ideally there should be a record even when statutory discretion is being used. Otherwise it's extremely difficult to establish whether lack of EQ has simply skipped notice or been taken cognisance of but ignored or relaxed in lieu of other DQ.
Insider 23 May 2019, 10:29
+0 -0
Yup. The reasons for a decision in a government or judicial institution have to be made in writing- a basic procedural requirement.
Guest 22 Apr 2019, 15:27
+9 -1
Sudhir Krishnaswamy and other "young" VC aspirants will be watching this case very closely!
Guest 22 Apr 2019, 15:37
+15 -1
Let's hope Delhi HC rules that seniority can be waived for meritorious applicants, paving the way for NLU alumni to take over as VCs of NLUs. In fact, the NLU students consortium should fine an intervenor petition seeking younger academics as Vice Chancellors. Around 15 years of academic and industry experience, regardless of rank, should be enough. The early batches of NALSAR, NUJS and NLUJ grads should also be made eligible.

This is the only way to ensure "brain gain" over "brain drain" in academics. Hardly 10 to 15% of NLU faculty are alumni.
Awesome 22 Apr 2019, 15:40
+6 -3
If he can be appointed as DJA Director then Sudhir, Shamnad and Umakant should be appointed as VCs.
32 22 Apr 2019, 15:45
+8 -1
Why so many NLSIU grads in academics but so few from other NLUs?
Guest 22 Apr 2019, 18:12
+4 -0
All the people mentioned here have graduated from NLSIU when the other NLUs weren't in existence or had not produced grads beyond perhaps one batch at most. Compare the scene from 2005-06 onward and you may get a clearer picture. NLSIU will probably still be heading the list though.
Stellar 22 Apr 2019, 16:28
+12 -0
Mrinal has stellar credentials and experience, has a blemish free record, and is known to be a a humble, hardworking and good fella. I have known him for almost 19 years now including as his student at law school.

Writs of this nature are clearly indicative of how professional rivalry can take an ugly color, and how ppl with quantity (of years) don’t want ppl with quality (way beyond no of years) to come up.

Most of Indian education and legal education is suffering from lack of good leaders and it is time that archaic laws and qualifications are changed

Best of luck MS - I hope this case will open the doors for more meritorious “younger” professionals.
First NLS VC 22 Apr 2019, 16:36
+2 -0
Is an IAS officer (Arun?) in TN on deputation for 2 years at TNNNLS
kianganz 22 Apr 2019, 16:50
+1 -0
Truedat, he was and technically the first NLUite who's headed an NLU. But I think they've got a new VC now, right? https://www.legallyindia.com/lawschools/arun-roy-becomes-vc-nls-tamil-nadu-20150622-6170
Babu Bhaiya 23 Apr 2019, 08:50
+2 -0
Wasn't a deputation. And he held fort till a new VC was appointed.
Request 22 Apr 2019, 17:08
+3 -2
Kian, there has been a lot of debate on this site on which NLU has the most alumni teaching, and which has the fewest. Is it possible for you to contact the various student bodies and get a firm confirmation on the numbers and percentages?Also, which NLU is producing the most teachers? At places where the numbers are really low, we need to ask hard questions to the VCs concerned.
Guest 22 Apr 2019, 18:10
+9 -0
When in your entire life have you ever asked any question to any NLU VC exactly, let alone hard ones? [...]
Guest 22 Apr 2019, 22:01
+2 -13
Here are the rough nos from what I know and data on the website:

1. NLUD: 6-8
2. NLSIU:5-6
3. NALSAR: 4-6
4. GNLU, NLUJ and NLIU:: 3-4
5. NUJS: 2-3

NLU producing most teachers: NLSIU followed closely by NALSAR
Guest 23 Apr 2019, 06:10
+11 -3
What rubbish! NUJS alone has at least 15 LLB alumni teaching full-time all across the different law universities and colleges in the country and at least 3 abroad. 5 of them are teaching at NUJS itself. Stop peddling your sorry excuse of lies.
kianganz 23 Apr 2019, 06:37
+2 -0
Maybe the commenter at 11.2 means annually? Hard to say and establish actually, unless checking every one of 20-odd NLUs' and other major universities' websites (most of which are likely out of date).
Guest 23 Apr 2019, 07:38
+9 -0
If you know someone is commenting with made-up stats that can't possibly be verified, then why publish those comments to begin with? What possible purpose can they serve without confusing others needlessly?
kianganz 23 Apr 2019, 08:42
+0 -1
I don't know if the data is fake, we generally assume good faith when someone tries to do some research...
Guest 23 Apr 2019, 08:32
+1 -1
But Kian, can't you just call up the student presidents of each NLU and seek the data from them? That's kind of like an official confirmation and we can hold someone accountable if the data is fake.
kianganz 23 Apr 2019, 08:42
+3 -1
I don't know if student presidents would readily have that info - they have quite a lot on their plate, usually...
Guest 23 Apr 2019, 09:49
+7 -1
I assure you, at least the student presidents of the top 5-6 NLUs have that kind of data about their faculty. Even if they don't have it, they will readily get it for something like that.
Interesting idea 23 Apr 2019, 11:18
+2 -0
This would actually be very interesting Kian. But not as a d**k measuring contest. NLUs/public universities are generally not very hospitable spaces for well qualified faculty. The post MP Singh exodus from NUJS a few years back, how Sidharth Chauhan was treated at NLS, and the ongoing muck at NLUD (of which this petition is a part) clearly point to a larger problem. In these circumstances knowing which universities manage to attract and retain good faculty and why, would be a good story. Perhaps you could start with numbers and durations, and then also reach out confidentially to these faculty members to ask them about their experiences, both good and bad, teaching at NLUs. I know I am assuming that being a NLU alum = being a good faculty, but it is an indicator of overall faculty quality surely that a law school has a significant bunch of NLU alum.
Guest 23 Apr 2019, 15:15
+0 -0
Agree. Kian is being lazy!
Guest 25 Apr 2019, 06:27
+1 -0
Kian doesn't do a definitive piece on this because it will put an end to a lot of bickering in the comments section that attract invaluable traffic.
kianganz 25 Apr 2019, 06:31
+1 -0
I have a strong feeling that even if we did do a piece, and it does sound interesting, there'd still be the 'invaluable' bickering :)

But yes, also true, it'd require quite a bit of legwork but hopefully will get around to it some time...
Guest 25 Apr 2019, 07:52
+3 -0
Ten to twelve phone-calls, Kian. Just to the student body presidents. If someone doesn't get back to you, which I doubt on matters like this, you can always say that in your post like you do for placements. That itself will speak volumes, because unlike placements, there's no reason to keep this info hidden. Ask for a list of all current teaching faculty and the names of the NLU LLB alumni highlighted. That's it.
Guest 25 Apr 2019, 10:16
+0 -3
Kian, the NLSIU data is available from its NIRF submission, link below (note also that the university uses "Bengaluru", not "Bangalore").

https://nls.ac.in/resources/year2019/NIRF/facultydetails.pdf

https://nls.ac.in/resources/year2019/NIRF/sponsoredresearchprojects.pdf

https://nls.ac.in/resources/year2019/NIRF/consultancyprojects.pdf
Guest 25 Apr 2019, 10:57
+4 -0
This gives a list of people employed, but not from where they have graduated. I do not know if this list is inclusive of all the contractual teachers too.
Guest 23 Apr 2019, 06:12
+13 -0
NUJS currently has 5 full-time NLU LLB alumni teaching there as assistant professors and 3 in full-time contractual positions. I dare you to name the 6 NLU LLB alumni teaching at NLUD at present. Because there aren't that many. There are at the maximum 4, possibly 3. There are good teachers there no doubt, but not NLU LLB alumni.
Guest 23 Apr 2019, 06:35
+19 -1
To settle claims to the contrary, I'm even naming the NLU LLB alumni teaching at NUJS at present. Shameek Sen, Saurabh Bhattacharjee, Mahesh Menon, Souvik Guha and Agni dipto Tarafder are full time assistant professors and have graduated from NUJS, NALSAR, NUALS, NUJS and NUJS respectively. Kumarjit Roy, Paramita Dasgupta and Ruchika Ghosh are full-time contractual teachers and all have graduated from NUJS. Why don't the other claimants come up with the details of the NLU LLB alumni currently teaching at other law schools?
Guest 23 Apr 2019, 13:35
+13 -0
The moment actual info need to be shared, commentators like 11.1 run away tucking their tail underneath. There is a group of people frequenting LI comments section who almost seem to be paid to spread false propaganda in favour of certain universities and against others. This is yet another example of that.
Guest 23 Apr 2019, 13:36
+0 -0
^Apologies to 11.1. That remark had been directed at commentator 11.2, who seemed to bring out stats straight out of his hat.
Guest 23 Apr 2019, 15:00
+10 -0
To the best of my knowledge, NUJS currently employs the maximum number of NLU LLB alumni as teachers among all the NLUs. This is both in terms of absolute number (8) as well as overall percentage (around 25%) of all teachers employed. JGLS may be able to match that or exceed it by way of absolute numbers, since they have far many more teachers, but even they may not be able to match it percentage-wise.
Guest 24 Apr 2019, 16:03
+0 -7
Absolute lies. There is NO way the number can be as high as 25%. Please give proof such as the official website.
Guest 24 Apr 2019, 16:40
+6 -1
Are you daft or high? I just told you the names of the eight faculty members. NUJS at present does not have more than 32 teachers including social science teachers (actually, should be closer to 30 if we exclude the ones on lien right now). Do the math, genius! Everybody knows the university website is useless because of the admin issues. But the names are real ones, you can ask any student/employee of the university. Kian definitely has heard of them at least.
Guest 24 Apr 2019, 16:48
+6 -0
I can give you a list of all the teachers names on behalf of the students. Please feel free to share your email address here. The ones who are NLU LLB alumni have already been mentioned in the posts above. Please feel free to do your own calculations. I have not posted in this thread before, but can vouch for the numbers cited for NUJS. Why this kolaveri di? Nobody is saying we have all exceptional teachers. This was just a statement about NLU LLB alumni teaching at NLUs. The statement about NUJS having one fourth of its current faculty roster made of such people happens to be the fact. I am not going to say whether that's the highest of all NLUs because frankly, I don't know who all teach at other NLUs barring a few names. That's for their students to comment on.
Guest 10 24 Apr 2019, 05:45
+0 -0
You can add Tilothama Roy, Sampa Karmakar, Fisal Fasi, Anirban Mazumdar and Vijay Kishore who are alumni of NUJS and NLSIU respectively for their LL.M and Ph.D degrees.

Besides, you have Bikramjit De who has done Ph.D from Oxford and Anuradha Ghosh Who has done LL.M from Abroad and Pursuing Ph.D from NUJS

However, being an NLU alumni or foreign degree does not guarantee one to be a good teacher or researcher at law schools
Guest 24 Apr 2019, 06:27
+8 -0
I agree with your last paragraph. NLU degree is not a guarantee of quality, nor are foreign degrees unfortunately these days. But the main question was regarding NLU LLB alumni teaching at NUJS, so the other names you have mentioned won't qualify. A commentator claimed NUJS has the least number of such teachers among major NLUs, which is completely false when in reality it actually employs the highest number of such people. Hence my clarification. In any case, I've been taught by 6 of the eight people I mentioned and all of them were good, with at least three being very good teachers in my opinion.
Guest 25 Apr 2019, 03:59
+5 -0
Kian, now that someone from NUJS has actually shared the details of their NLU LLB alumni faculty, I request you not to publish any other false information by way of comment that claims NLUD or other NLUs have the highest number of NLU alumni teaching there, unless of course that comment contains the names and graduation details of such people. If you still do otherwise, your claim of good faith will not hold any longer.
Guest 23 Apr 2019, 09:04
+6 -0
Definitely wrong with respect to NLUD. NlUD has 2 NLU alum - Anoop and Aparna. Mrinal Satish has obviously left based on this story itself. Chinmayee has also left. She is doing something at Harvard (AFAIK). There are some researchers who are nlu alum, mostly in the research centres established / headed by these 4. But these researchers don't teach.
NLS ki baari 22 Apr 2019, 17:25
+4 -1
Sudhir had better watch out. This is what awaits him if and when he becomes NLS VC. They'll challenge his appointment on the ground that the advertisement couldn't have restricted eligibility to
Guest 22 Apr 2019, 22:04
+1 -2
Thanks to the dude who filed the case: you've just paved the way for alumni to become VCs, starting with Sudhir.
Guest 23 Apr 2019, 06:22
+3 -0
Not exactly. DJA has the CJ at the top having discretionary power to relax the qualification. For most universities, that's really difficult without being challenged as per UGC norms.
Deshi 23 Apr 2019, 15:03
+6 -0
Nothing new to DJA. Across NLUs theres a wave of resentment and jealousy by the old guard against young NLU-alumni teaching, who go out of their way to make life difficult for them. Whether NLSIU, NALSAR, NLUJ or NUJS the older generation of professors is doing their utmost to drive away alumni. Either it is rule based attacks (like Mrinal's case) or open hostility behind the scenes. On that count NLUD is much more forward (possibly because of MP Singh and Mrinal's seniority). Same for Jindal which is refreshingly free from these old bums.
Genuine 23 Apr 2019, 15:35
+0 -9
Dear Friends, I would like to settle the debate about the presence of NLU alumni as professors. We should agree on the following to not mislead the public:

1. In the absence of official website links or official confirmation, we cannot trust anyone claiming his or her college has X number of alumni teaching. Anyone can just spread lies and also pass off guest lecturers as faculty.

2. It also matters if alumni are from top NLUs per NIRF rankings + LLM and PhD graduates of good universities abroad.

3. Similarly, publications in good journals and research record also counts.

4. Experience also counts. People graduating in 2016 and teaching cannot be equated with senior people.

So please only trust official data with ALL the above information given.
Guest 23 Apr 2019, 16:25
+13 -0
You started with the topic of NLU alumni as teachers and veered off to other directions like publications and seniority. The two do not have anything in common. What you said are metrics of good teachers (not the seniority bit, that's mostly rubbish), while the discussion was about NLU LLB alumni as teachers. Even the stamp of a foreign university LLM isn't a guarantee of quality anymore these days. Almost every foreign university accepts even mediocre students if they are willing to pay. And good students and good teachers have rarely been synonymous. The NIRF process is mostly an eyewash till they actually start verifying the data submitted by the universities properly. It's useless counting on that ranking till then.
Guest 23 Apr 2019, 18:03
+3 -3
The real issue is why NLU alumni (young and old) are being opposed by the old guard to teach as faculty. They are deliberately discounting industry experience and imposing UGC NET.
Guest 24 Apr 2019, 02:43
+13 -0
Not only the old guard, these days a lot of students also seem to be obsessed with teachers having UGC qualifications rather than teaching ability and industry experience. At NUJS for example, students have formally raised the matter against senior alumni willing to teach. This is quite strange and inexplicable. In our times, we always thought UGC rules to be a nuisance that needs to be side-stepped.
Guest 24 Apr 2019, 05:44
+1 -3
Kian, we urge you to do a story on the under-hiring of NLU alumni as faculty in NLUs. Foul play is going on. Shitty people from shitty colleges are hired in preference to alumni.
Guest 24 Apr 2019, 10:19
+11 -0
Is there any proper evidence of multiple NLU alumni who are qualified including UGC qualification, applied to different NLUs, yet couldn't get jobs there? Because unless there are such instances, how can you even allege foul play is beyond my comprehension. Simply because other people are getting hired, one cannot conclude that there are NLU alumni who are qualified and interested to apply, but still not getting through. I mean, I'm willing to believe that, but only when some evidence to such effect is cited instead of mere conjectures.
Guest 24 Apr 2019, 10:50
+5 -0
Name 5 NLU alumni who applied for each NLU where you believe foul play is going on.

Also give year in which this application was made.

Finally, name who was recruited instead of such and such person in that round of recruitments.

Thank you
Guest 24 Apr 2019, 12:31
+7 -0
@17.2: That will require actual research instead of making wild anonymous insinuations, no? 17 seems to be the kind of guy who does the latter and not the former.
nepotism be damned 24 Apr 2019, 12:06
+8 -10
Merit does NOT substitute experience. All the Mrinal stooges commenting here need to understand that this is an administrative position, not an academic one. All the fancy things in his CV shouldn't have counted for shit. Not many here know but Dr. Mrinal's tenure at NLU-Delhi has also been writted in the Delhi HC and despite that he was appointed chairman because nobody really bothered about ethics and fairness. Dr. Mrinal is always given a pass at NLU-Delhi [...]. It's this unholy nexus he's in with the administration that students and faculty at NLUD hate the most. Nobody is entitled to special treatment, waivers or anything else from the Court simply because they studied at fancy institutions because these things are no indicators of anything. And basic knowledge of public law or even common sense will tell you that appointments cannot be retrospectively validated. Because that would violate every principle in the book. And relaxation under rule 11 can only be exercised by the CJ subject to fulfillment of basic qualifications. Or in a situation where none of the candidates are making the cut, which is certainly not the case here. Even to quantify 'Merit' there has to be something concrete. The problems with this appointment are very basic. Who even writes these asspull articles, Kian?
Guest 24 Apr 2019, 16:14
+1 -4
Unless we establish a practice where an NLSIU alum heads NLSIU, a NALSAR alum heads NALSAR and so forth, NLUs will be saddled with incompetent, dictatorial and mediocre VCs.
Guest 25 Apr 2019, 17:15
+2 -5
Regarding the debate over which NLU has most alumni faculty, I think the following should be kept in mind while doing a ranking:

1. Not all NLUs are of the same quality and can be lumped together. Just we have the Big 7 law firms we should have the Big 7 NLUs.
2. A separate list should be made of those with LLM/PhD degrees abroad, who may or may not be NLU grads.

Finally, it should be stated that graduating from a reputed university is OFTEN but not ALWAYS a guarantee of being a good teacher or researcher. While research quality can be gauged by looking at a list of journals, teaching quality is tricky as you need to speak to a broad range of students anonymously.
Guest 25 Apr 2019, 19:10
+6 -2
Most of what you said isn't relevant towards listing which NLU employs most NLU grads as teachers. The fact that you can't even realise that yourself bodes ill for whichever place you are studying in or have graduated from.
Guest 25 Apr 2019, 19:14
+7 -0
Dude, there's no debate about that. NUJS has the highest number of NLU LLB alumni teaching there at present. That's well established from posts above. However, nobody claims they also have the best quality faculty of all the NLUs. That's a different story altogether. You seem to have a personal vendetta with that university, so can't digest the truth.
Guest 1 May 2019, 01:41
+1 -0
Great Mrinal. Well deserved. Ignore the noise