NLU Delhi’s 2016 graduating batch has bagged 20 jobs from nearly all of India’s top firms after holding one of the first recruitment interview days out of all national law schools.
A total of eight firms’ offices made offers (see table below), with Khaitan & Co hiring the most with a total of six graduates accepting, including one pre-placement offer (PPO) to a student following an earlier internship. Luthra & Luthra and Trilegal respectively received four and three acceptances.
Amarchand Mangaldas Delhi and Mumbai regions each recruiting one student on Day Zero, and Delhi having made made one additional PPO.
AZB & Partners and Talwar Thakore and Associates also participated in Day Zero, while S&R Associates had already made one PPO.
A total of 45 students out of a batch of 72 batch are participating in the recruitment committee activities for 2016; 26 offers were made on Day Zero, with 16 acceptances.
Students have also bagged four coveted foreign law firm vacation scheme internships abroad, which often convert into jobs after graduation.
Linklaters has offered two vacation schemes, while Allen & Overy and Herbert Smith Freehills have each offered one internship.
One RCC member commented: “Obviously the relationship that our seniors have developed with firms have helped, but we have also been reaching out to new firms and corporations.
“Some firms have come for the first time to our college, like AZB & Partners, Talwar Thakore and Amarchand Mumbai.”
This batch’s Day Zero performance managed to double the performance of the college’s previous and third batch, which saw 10 accepted jobs in its 2014 Day Zero on 4 April.
| Name of the Firm | Number of Acceptances | Pre Placement Offers |
|---|---|---|
| Amarchand Delhi | 1 | 1 |
| Amarchand Mumbai | 1 | |
| Khaitan & Co | 5 | 1 |
| Trilegal | 3 | |
| Luthra & Luthra | 3 | 1 |
| Talwar Thakore and Associates | 1 | |
| AZB & Partners | 2 | |
| SNR Associates | 0 | 1 |
| Total | 16 | 4 |
The RCC members, consisting of Parul Sharma, Anuradha Godrey, Aroon Menon, Utkarsh Srivastava, Vaishali Singh, Kanwar Vivswan and Bharat Gupta, said in a joint statement:
We would like to thank our Vice Chancellor, Registrar, Faculty members and all our seniors, whose support and guidance have helped make the process a phenomenal success. That in a short span of time, the University has achieved such great success, is a result of the quality of education and diverse opportunities that the University provides. We are excited for the future placements as many recruiters have shown interest in participating in our recruitment process and we hope to secure placements for each of our members.
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JSA goes wherever it wants to and makes limited number of campus placements. As a policy, they hire more people via their interns. They went last year to NLUD and didn't go this year. Big deal!
Stop trying to sensationalize stuff unnecessarily.
About JSA confirming for NLS on day zero this year - let the day zero of NLS happen. We'll see then.
JSA nahin gaya NLSIU iss saal bhi? Awwwww! Or are you going to come back one year later and say that JSA actually did?
JSA went to NLSIU last year and you didn't tell Kian?! OMG! Reporting wrong facts to your own prejudice?
I am from a private non national law school, so not interested in your national law school v. national law school rivalry. But a little surprised.
Secondly, Anon didn't say that JSA recruits from NLUD via interns, he/she just said that they recruit through their interns. So whether they come for day zero or not, is not a reason to diss whatever NLUD has achieved. It may not be as good as some others, it may not be as good as YOU would expect, but it's good enough for them.
So just let them be.
JSA recruits through interns, you said? NO. A BIG NO. Read this, where LI reports how JSA rejigged its policy to put more emphasis on campus placements than PPOs
http://www.legallyindia.com/201008271233/Law-firms/jsa-rejigs-internships-to-level-playing-field-for-non-mumbai-law-school-interns
READ THIS! Stop arguing now, if you really believe Kian and LI.
JSA recruits through day zero. Agreed. But its majority recruitment still happens through interns. You can go count the number of 2014 graduates working at JSA - and ask them for yourself how many of them got recruited through day zero and how many through interns.
And if you can't or don't wish to verify that, then please stop arguing yourself.
I believe they've been ramping up a bit, to stay competitive, but if you compare to other big six firms, JSA recruits a lot fewer from campus directly than others, and still puts significant weight into internship / articles recruitments.
This spreadsheet doesn't tunnel down into PPO / non-PPO, but JSA only hired 9 from NLSes last year ( http://www.legallyindia.com/images/2013-14%20law%20school%20rankings%20raw%20data.xls from here: http://www.legallyindia.com/201410315253/Law-schools/law-schools-recruitment-power-rankings-2013-14 ) - by contrast the other big firms did a lot more.
Stands to reason JSA recruits a lot of its intake still from GLC, and maybe also DU and the like, as well as ILS, Symbi, etc...
If interested, do look through our previous year's recruitment coverage, and where it's broken down by PPO / direct recruitment, JSA will be leaning more strongly towards PPO.
Yes, we hired 9 from NLSs last year through Day 0, and about a total of 12 recruits will be joining us this year. So, just 3 final years have been hired from non NLSs.
Request you, Kian, not to make wild guesses, such as above. Get your facts right, please.
And there is no such thing as the ILS Placement Committee.
This current batch who is passing out? 4 AZB jobs with 2 more in the pipeline - final interview stage, 2 AMSS jobs, 4 Khaitan jobs, 3 Luthra jobs, 1 SNR job, 1 JSA job, 2 Trilegal jobs. - That's at least 18 jobs in the big law firms, along with 3 foreign law firm TCs.
And as you can see, 2016 batch has 20 jobs and 4 Vacschemes by April 1, when they graduate June 2016.
We have to be happy! We never have more than 45 people who want jobs, out of 75 students cause people prefer LLMs or policy work, or chamber lit. We have such an active campus culture and not a hardcore corpenvironment.
Pliss to acknowledge half the batch gets fancy placements at big-law firms and it has been steadily improving.
Cheers!
We do have good students, great faculty, a campus culture the last 1 year where we engage in discussions and deliberations and we're doing well as a college. Our performances in debates (winning NLS-D thrice), moots - winning redcross world, ICC, manlachs worlds etc, involvement in research projects like Death Penalty, admissions into Harvard, Oxford, Yale, Cambridge for our students all are inspiring. We are happy to be challenging the big guns in a small way. When our college is around 12 years old, we see ourselves challenging the big guns in all aspects. Or being a big gun. =)
Can we not do the "publicity stunt" thing. With some of the best faculty, best campus culture and great students we're happy. And we have the right to be!
Also when 24 out of the 45 people have jobs or foreign vac schemes, we thing it is a pretty good thing. More people have been offered assemsment internships at Big Law firms and further, Day 1 is always successful.
The current final year batch? We had 10 confirmed big law firm offers by day 0 including PPOs. In this one year we have had 3 accepted Luthra jobs, 4 accepted AZB jobs, 1 accepted Khaitan job, 1 accepted SNR job, 3 foreign accepted TCs and AZB is still processing 2 more jobs - along with placements in many other law firms and in-house areas like Wipro, TATA, ICICI, Star, Sahara among others.
Likewise the 2016 batch has time till June 2016 to place the rest. People who want jobs will get jobs. We think that's very successful for a college this young.
We don't need to "grow up". We'll celebrate like Ireland does at its wins, because we're fledging and we can only improve. :*
PS. 2016 batch - 16 accepted jobs on Day Zero in NLUD. NLS - 20 accepted day zero jobs. Of course we're happy! :D
LOL I need to stop seeking self-validation on LegallyIndia.
Kuch bhi?
Yay padyega http://www.legallyindia.com/Law-firms/nlu-jodhpur-s-day-zero-set-to-may-double-last-year-s-record-with-massive-ppo-haul-for-2016-batch :) Kuch bhi
Peace Out now :) Your law school is ossom. I know it. But, does not mean that my law school is bad.
Oh, and btw, don't even compare yourselves with us, the Tier 1 law schools.
I think this batch (graduating in 2016) is very lucky
At least 4 law schools in this country, with no such 'self proclaimed exposure' as yours, have atleast 14-16 PPOs. They are yet to conduct their Day Zero. So, just cool down. You and your publicity gimmicks! Tired already.
Yes, 120k * 12 = 14.4 + min of 150% of one month salary = 16.2 min. That's how was explained at NLS. This is WAY more than other firms where 13lacs or 14 lacs incl "aspirational" bonus!
Kian Sir and Prachi Ma'am, I would request you to please do a ranking of all law schools so that a neutral voice can verify this. This is especially important as CLAT is coming up.
NLU-Delhi is an extremely promising young law school, but it isn't as good as the top 3 law schools in the country.
Your final year students have not any job just try to learn something :-)
Fresher salary at KCO is now 16 Lakh?!
Kian, you've got to get a confirmation on this from the Firm. Can anyone tell what has the batch of 2015 been promised? As reported by LI last year - the batch of 2014 was at 13.2 + 2 = 15.2 L. So, has there been an increase from the 13.2 base this year?! Someone please confirm.
For the record, NLSIU's Batch of 2016 day zero numbers: 20 accepted offers among 30 people who sat for Day Zero. Further, 13 PPOs.
(The number of total Day Zero offers were 50-ish btw :) )
NLS - around since 1987 - 20 people placed on day zero.
Sweetie, we're the underdogs. Getting 16 people placed on day zero when NLS got 20 people placed is a huge thing. Also, um, why does total number of offers matter? People with jobs matter. Does it matter if NLS's top 5 ranks get some 7 offers each? =D Unlike NLUD who tries to maximise jobs, minimise clashes by ensuring a cap on the number of firms people can apply to.
Our alumni are 2nd year associates. In fact we don't have any alumni in JSA, Khaitan Bombay, Trilegal Bombay and AZB Mumbai. Think about all these disabilities. Please not CNLU, NLUO and other new law schools opened around the same time as us, or earlier as in the case of RML etc struggling for placements. For batch of 2016 to get 20 biglawjobs and 4 foreign firms for a "we want jobs" size of 45 students and overall batch strength of 75 students is insane.
We are not saying we are NLSIU. We're just saying, maybe we don't need to be around since 1987 with partners in every major firm to notch up um, 20 accepted offers on day zero. We can do 16 without that only. =)
But yay, congratulations! I am sure you're happy and all. Good job! Most of us are in NLUD cause we could not get into NLS. Seeing crappy, competitive comments like this makes us regret it less. :D
Peace out sab log, we're bhai-behen in this NLU game and may we all get the employment we deserve. ^_^
PS: "biglawjobs" doesn't look so nice as one word. One's mind sorta kinda goes elsewhere heuheu.
We do have good students, great faculty, a campus culture the last 1 year where we engage in discussions and deliberations and we're doing well as a college. Our performances in debates (winning NLS-D thrice), moots, involvement in research projects like Death Penalty, admissions into Harvard, Oxford, Yale, Cambridge for our students all are inspiring. We are happy to be challenging the big guns in a small way. Much like Ireland cricket team. When our college is around 12 years old, we see ourselves challenging the big guns in all aspects. Or being a big gun. =)
Can we not do the "publicity stunt" thing. With some of the best faculty, best campus culture and great students we're happy. And we have the right to be!
Undoubtedly. And I see this as opportunities for us all to learn and grow.
I think it's a fab job. Good luck to all the new employees.
There ARE passouts from NLUD working in Khaitan, JSA Delhi and Trilegal Bombay!
Khaitan had one graduate of 2013 batch from NLUD who left a year back.
JSA Delhi and Trilegal Bombay will be places with NLUD for the first time once the 2015 batch graduates.
If you know otherwise, name them.
Plus, even if there were - alumni who are second year associates are totally equal to alumni who are partners right? Did your brain go on vacation or something?
We apologize to you if our seniors hurt your sentiments. Please pardon them for they do not know what they speak. We will walk behind you following your footsteps and till our feet have the strength to outrun you.
We wish you to live long, but hear rumours of your suicidal tendencies. You comparing yourself to us speaks a lot to us. We hear your seniors never had anything like day1 as all got picked on dayO. As you falter, we grow. In the meantime, consult an institutional psychiatrist.
Two suggestions: Every year, post April you should also update the promotion of Associates and Senior Associates of the Law Firms. Second thing is revised salary structure for the next term. Since there is no applicability of RTI on these firms, it will really help us to negotiate with respective Partners or choose better place for next fiscal.
1. NLUD
2. NALSAR
3. NLSIU
4. NLUJ
5. NUJS
6. NLIU
7. GNLU
8. HNLU
9. RGNUL
10. RMLNLU
if you look up the true rankings, NLSIU had better placements than NLUD and NLIU had better placements than NLUJ. further considering the shittiest level of faculty at Jodhpur, GNLU will be better than Jodhpur anyday and NLIU being better than Jodhpur in all aspects is not debatable.
What more do you expect when a fourth year student from NLUJ says that Planning Commission is a constitutional Body!!
But guys, just let me say this once and for all: it's *not* called a publicity when a college tells us about their recruitment figures on Day Zero or otherwise, it's called transparency!
It's also what Legally India does: we write about achievements (and failures) of colleges and law firms. Get used to it.
Finally, stop bashing NLU Delhi, they've had a pretty impressive Day Zero for such a young law school and managed to be first out of the blocks too.
And just like you said it, we still gotta have our Day Zero in the coming days. Simple maths suggests: 13-16 PPOs+Day Zero jobs >>>NLU-D Final Day Zero figures.
This is publicity, generated by NLUD. Period. They really need to look at other biggies with whom they claim to compete.
When NLU Delhi:
1. shares the facts of its Day Zero,
2. has better Day Zero than it had in any batch ever,
3. had the first Day Zero out of all the NLSes,
4. performed pretty well on Day Zero, even when compared to the 'best' and 'oldest' NLS of them all,
then that's good news for NLU Delhi, there's no other way to look at it.
No one is claiming that NLU Delhi is the best law school in the country - neither LI, nor NLU Delhi's RCC - but the fact of the matter is that they're making strong headway into the top 3. and performing very well on issues such as recruitment, faculty and general student performance in such areas as mooting.
Period?
And you say, NLU Delhi is making a strong headway into the top 3. Not really. Don't be biased, Kian.
NUJS. Naam toh suna hi hoga, Kian?
What's your batch size though? 120 or so at the moment? Bigger numbers will obviously help a bit with absolute PPO figures... And NLS, for example, had 'only' 13 PPOs, if that's your sole metric.
Point is that when looking at trends, NLU Delhi will soon perform (or is arguably already performing) at-par in recruitments with the top 3 or top 5, give or take some.
The point is that as an individual student, if you're good, etc, the differences in job opportunity at each of these colleges are pretty equivalent. If you want an Amarchand job, for instance, you're likely to be able to get that at either of these colleges.
Have a look at our 'recruitment power ranking', for instance, for an indication of how well the average student in a law schools' batch can get a BigLaw job:
http://www.legallyindia.com/201410315253/Law-schools/law-schools-recruitment-power-rankings-2013-14
NLU D is ranked on-par with NUJS there. But again, these numbers aren't gospel, but they give a decent indication of what's actually going on, and the reality seems to be, the differences are already marginal...
Which is why, we say, that NLU Delhi has still a lot of spade work to do. It's still a baby in front of the Top 3.
We do hope that you 'report' news. Not biased news in favor of NLU-Delhi. We can understand that you are apparently 'awed' by NLU-Delhi, but that does not mean that you start 'manufacturing' bias in favor of NLU-Delhi.
Request you to keep yourself more updated and then argue. Please do justice to your job by not manufacturing news. Arnab Goswami isn't really liked by many, if he's your hero in that case.
You can't call it biased journalism when one of the parties is ready to disclose their figures and the other party isn't.
If there is any bias being 'manufactured' by anyone here, it's you. It's the lack of disclosure from NUJS that has led to this apparent manufactured bias. Don't blame LI or NLU Delhi for that.
C'mon Kian, don't be THAT biased. If I remember correctly, you even had the temerity to equate AMSS associates with TSG ones, LLMs with LPOs, and what not! For more, it would be wise enough to visit your own story's comments, www.legallyindia.com/201410315253/Law-schools/law-schools-recruitment-power-rankings-2013-14. Do favor to yourself, Kian.
Finally, after bungling figures, you discovered that NLU-D is catching up with Top 3.
Eureka, Kian? No.
I accept that the main problem with that power ranking is that it doesn't place enough 'value' in LLMs and non-BigLaw related careers, but NLU D suffered as much from that metric as NLS or anyone else.
No ranking is perfect but I don't think that majority of other 'criticisms' in the comments to that story are valid or have been supported by enough evidence.
The LPOs that are ranked highly, pay well or better than litigation and many law firm jobs, and getting a high-paying LPO job is not that easy.
As for AMSS and their TSG (transactional support group) - do you know the figures? I believe there's no transparency on that at present, so we have to work with the data that's available. Is there any difference in pay or how they recruit from campus for that group? Did everyone from NLU Delhi get 'shunted' into TSG?
Anyway, it's a bit of a pointless discussion. Rather than going on the attack, give some simple examples, why NLU Delhi is performing as poorly as you claim it is. Top law firms seem to be happily and repeatedly recruiting from NLU Delhi without complaints, they're consistently bagging good LLMs and foreign law firm jobs (arguably the toughest to get), have pretty good faculty (often with top NLU undergrad degrees and foreign LLMs), perform pretty fantastically at moots, have the locational advantage of being based in Delhi, and a very pragmatic VC.
The biggest criticism of NLU Delhi is that they still insist on being outside the CLAT, which has given them an unfair advantage over other new law schools though it's a shrewd (if potentially, legally dubious) move by its VC.
At the end of the day, I have no horse in this race and don't give a rat's arse which national law school is best.
But from where I stand, admittedly as an outsider but also as an impartial one, much of the evidence and figures point to NLU Delhi being a strong contender for at least the top 5 NLSes already.
Prove me wrong on each of the above facts with convincing data or arguments, if you can, and I'll be happy to revise my opinion.
You have a major horse in the race, the one which produces or rather 'manufactures' more hits on your website!
By coming up with a potentially wrong scandalous rankings and opinions, you ensure that students get enraged. Even more, what about those CLAT aspirants, who believe every word of this website? You really need to revise your lessons about the concept of 'public interest'.
Misguiding people serves against public interest. No matter how much freedom you have to commercialize this website, you really do not have the liberty to manufacture wrong news, misguide Indian law students and serve against public interest. Don't do this for some extra hits or a pack of extra bucks. This is appalling reporting, Kian.
Truth of the matter is, whatever we publish on law school performance would get hits. If we published data that NLU Delhi was doing poorly, NLU Delhi would outrage and others would gloat; if we publish data that NLU Delhi is doing great, others would similarly outrage. Fact is, we don't have to manufacture any outrage, because people like you will simply outrage regardless of facts. :)
Also, not that it should matter, but none of our advertisers pay us on the basis of our hits (and our rates have remained the same in past years despite hits increasing), so whatever horse I have in this race must be a very lame one...
That said, my dear friend, answer my question please or I'm done with this frankly ridiculous discussion:
[quote]Prove me wrong on each of the above facts with convincing data or arguments, if you can, and I'll be happy to revise my opinion.[/quote]
Or, if that is beyond you (as it clearly seems to be), please find a single word in the article above that is inaccurate or giving a wrong impression to aspirants or anyone else.
Didn't think so.
[/quote]
THAT was a good one!
1. What is your total batch size and what is your recruitment batch size? (NLUD's is 73 and 45 respectively)
2. How many batches have graduated from your university? (NLUD has had only two batches that has graduated)
Are you honestly so thick that you don't see the advantage of having alumni crawling across most offices and courts? You say NLUD isn't really making a strong headway into the top three - based on what???
What is more pathetic is that NUJS has been around for over a decade and it still isn't ever, even in passing, considered the best. Nor does anyone ever predict that NUJS will be the best. Really, what NLUD does or doesn't do shouldn't be your concern. If you think we're babies then don't spend your time abusing them dadu, it is very unbecoming. Like your acad block, your reputation continues to crumble and here you are squabbling with Kian. It's about time you did some damage control. You should conduct a survey as to how many in NLUD have rejected NUJS. In fact you should grateful towards the students sitting there cuz its more than likely you're in NUJS because they didn't want to be.
Naam toh suna hi hoga it seems.
Naam toh suna hi hoga it seems.[/quote]
Oooooooh...nice one. Especially the acad block part.
Having said this, congratulations guys for a great day zero! But please refrain from heralding your college as the next best thing to happen to legal education since the Socratic method! For placing 20 freshers does not really make an institution. Given the attrition rate, why don't you wait for your alumni to aggregate to a sizable number in the industry and prove their worth, before saying that your college is indisputably better than any other XYZ college.
Also, please, avoid NUJS in your glorious mud fest for supremacy. It is unpleasant to have such presumptuous judgments of quality from kids sitting in their hostel rooms.
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As someone said, NLU-Delhi is happy at the smaller pier. We are even happier at your appetite. Publicity stunt just went horribly wrong. :)
By saying NLS had a "larger pie", you're not proving that isn't evident before-hand. 1987 vs. 2008, du-uh. Please accept the fact that colleges can be happy even with lower Day Zero placements than NLS. Without it reflecting anywhere on the competition they may be.
1. NLSIU
2. NALSAR
3. NLUD/NUJS
4. NLUJ/NLIU
I acknowledge that faculty quality plays an important role and NLUD has got many alumni of NLUs in the faculty. I will even concede that NLUD faculty is better than NLSIU and NALSAR. But ultimately a university's success is shaped by quality of students. This is where NLUD lags. There are also rumours of students getting in through influence. Also if you only look at faculty then a college like Jindal (with CLAT rejects) will score highest, LOL.
Can you name these people, or refer me to the batches in which this happened?
If these kids are indeed so hateful towards NLUD then they shouldn't be wasting their time belittling them but rather be spending time ensuring that they retain their position because if one had to go by NLUD's track record then I just can't wait to see how things stand in 20 years.
Your observations are really devoid of logic.
[...] 33 jobs at NLS. Remember that. Always. Before you write a word here.
Kya samjhe?
Though, I personally know a co-intern from NUJS who has been given out a PPO at JSA, Bangalore.
According to an authoritative JSA source, the firm was still intending to go for Nalsar and NUJS day zero.
Nicely trolled guys...
The following line from the movie Guru gives the answer -
"Jab log tumhare khilaf bolne lage toh samajh lo tarakki kar rahe ho."
Keep up the good work NLU Delhi!