NLU Delhi places 15 students after Day Zero: Cyril (and probably Shardul) top recruiters, Khaitan, Luthra, Trilegal take 6 [CORRECTION]

NLU Delhi has placed 21 students graduating in 2017 after its Day Zero, reported Bar & Bench.

Correction: the NLU Delhi Rcc has confirmed that the total number of accepted offers was 15, not 21. We regret the error and have reached our for further clarification.

Bar & Bench reported that eight firms participated in Day Zero - Shardul Amarchand Mangaldas, Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas, Luthra and Luthra, Talwar Thakore & Associates, Jyoti Sagar & Associates, Khaitan & Co, Argus Partners and Trilegal – but did not provide a breakdown of hires from each.

According to data supplied by each firm, Cyril Amarchand hired five from NLU Delhi all in Day Zero interviews, while Khaitan & Co hired a total of three.

Shardul Amarchand was not able to confirm detailed figures for NLU Delhi recruitment at the time of going to press, but considering current trends in other Day Zeros, it would have picked up a similar number to Cyril Amarchand.

JSA was also not reachable to confirm detailed figures for NLU Delhi at the time of publication.

Legally India understands that Talwar Thakore did not participate in Day Zero but made a pre-placement offer (PPO) to an NLU Delhi student.

Allen & Overy and Herbert Smith Freehills respectively offered one and two vacation schemes, according to Bar & Bench.

Last year, NLU Delhi on its Day Zero had also sewn up 20 jobs and four vacation schemes.

This year’s Day Zeros:

To be updated with final figures. If an NLU Delhi RCC member or student reads this, please do get in touch to confirm final figures at

If any other law school RCCs would like to pro-actively share their Day Zero figures, please get in touch with us.

NLU Delhi Day Zero estimates

FirmPPODay 0Total
Cyril Amarchand55
Khaitan & Co3
Luthra & Luthra022
Trilegal011
Talwar Thakore1N/A1
Shardul Amarchand?
JSA?
Argus Partners?
Total confirmed12
Total (according to B&B)21

Source: Legally India and law firms

Also read: all our previous law school campus recruitment stories

Also read: Last year’s Day Zero figures at other law schools:

Nalsar Hyderabad got between 35-39 jobs on its Day Zero last year, NUJS Kolkata secured 40 jobs for its fourth years, NLSIU Bangalore’s Day Zero last year yielded 33 jobs and 4 vacation schemes, while NLU Delhi secured 20 jobs and 4 vacation schemes, NLIU Bhopal got around 22 jobs, GNLU Gandhinagar 24 jobs and NLU Jodhpur hauled in 31.

Comments

Anon1 9 Apr 2016, 13:55
+21 -1
Interesting that NLUD has better faculty than NLS, NALSAR and NUJS but trail behind them in placements. Doubly true for Jiggles. This means that the top 3 law schools are effectively like ships being steered by students, with faculty sleeping in the cabins. Even if you sack the faculty the placements will be good (probably better, LOL). The students of these law schools should now demand a a quota for alumni in the governing body and a chance to make representations before the governing body.
Star Student 10 Apr 2016, 04:03
+4 -10
If you believe that recruitments are purely based on merit, then you're living under a rock, my friend. Getting placed in Indian firms is as easy as learning a few tricks and then leaving it to the interviewer - who is extremely unlikely to reject you if you are from their law school. Not taking away anything from NLS and NUJS - and probably Nalsar students but they will get stellar placements because of their alumni. Something that NLU Delhi lacks.

Anyway, if it is quality legal education you want with your development, NLU Delhi/NLS/Nalsar (equal weight) it should be. Don't believe me, ask any such Tier 1 Law School student who have interacted with NLUD kids - they should be more than willing to vouch for their competence.
Star Student 10 Apr 2016, 06:22
+1 -0
Wow, tons of typos and syntactical errors. Please ignore. Thanks!
Lame excuse 10 Apr 2016, 06:40
+7 -1
Sorry, this is no reason. HNLU and GNLU are older than NLUD, but NLUD does better than them. Bhopal and Jodhpur are older than NUJS, but NUJS does better. NLUD has massive advantages: money, location, faculty. It ought to be the #1 NLU in terms of placements,but it is #4. NLUD is doing very well in placements, but considering the advantages they have they should be doing better. If you can just fix this problem, NLS's days as #1 are numbered. NLUD is ahead of NLS is every category expect placements (the most important one).
Star Student 10 Apr 2016, 13:45
+2 -1
Well, NUJS started getting its first partners since around 2010-11, if not earlier. At this stage, a lot of their alumni are in senior positions. So yes, I think your examples are a bit... problematic.

NLUD will get their first partners around 2020-21. So, 2023 should be a good year to test NLUD's "hype".
Sure thing, buddy. 23 Apr 2016, 14:36
+0 -0
Grapes are sour, I hear.
._. 9 Apr 2016, 13:58
+2 -0
bas? BAS???
AZB 9 Apr 2016, 14:01
+4 -0
How come AZB didn't participate?!
Confirmation 9 Apr 2016, 15:30
+1 -0
How can you publish recruitment figures based upon speculations?
kianganz 9 Apr 2016, 17:06
+1 -1
How can you publish comment without reading the article?

Seriously though, just kidding - which part is speculation?

All our figures are confirmed from the firms. The 21 figure we can't vouch for, since it's from B&B, but it could make sense if SAM hired 7 or 8. We'll get final figures in the coming days and will update.
50% of NUJS 9 Apr 2016, 16:40
+3 -3
Those who say that NLU Delhi will be as good as NUJS Kolkata in 2-3 years, can now work with a fact.

NUJS Day 0 placements were twice as good as NUJS Kolkata. And this is HUGE.

NUJS placed 41 students. NLU Delhi, just 21. NLU Delhi's placements thus would be comparable to the likes of GNLU and HNLU.
Lambi race ka ghoda 9 Apr 2016, 18:18
+0 -0
To quote kian- "The 21 figure we can't vouch for, since it's from B&B, but it could make sense if SAM hired 7 or 8. We'll get final figures in the coming days and will update."
Race abhi baaki hai mere dost.
66% of NUJS 10 Apr 2016, 04:04
+1 -0
Checked the number of people in the batch?
Ex Law Schoolite 10 Apr 2016, 10:02
+5 -0
Half the recruitment with 66% of the batch is still worse than NUJS. Checked your maths?
Anonymous 123 10 Apr 2016, 15:08
+2 -2
Since when did placements become such a strong indicator? Is the quality of law graduates judged by how many decide to mint money? Every college has its own unique culture, NLUD students might be more oriented towards other things.

Also. Being in the top 40 out of 150 is as difficult as being in the top 20 out of 80. So from an aspirant's view point, won't make much of a difference.
Anonymous123 9 Apr 2016, 18:31
+5 -0
How stupid are you? Please look at percentages instead of pure numbers. Compare batch sizes.
You are stupid 10 Apr 2016, 10:00
+1 -0
Day 0 recruitments have nothing to do with batch sizes.

If these top recruiters found 80 of 80 great students from NLSIU, they'd recruit them all.

The fact that 41 NUJS students got these top jobs, really shows that as far as recruitments go, NUJS is the best place to be in.

Also think from a CLAT aspirant's perspective. At NLU Delhi, if I am among the top 20, I'll get the top jobs. At NUJS Kolkata, if I am among the top 40, I'll get jobs.
Pewds 10 Apr 2016, 14:46
+2 -0
I have to agree with 6.1 here. The same people(almost) recruit from the colleges on day zeros. They couldn't give two hoots about recruiting with regard to batch size. They will recruit more if they like a college and less if they don't.
kianganz 10 Apr 2016, 14:58
+4 -1
Surely it's a bit more complicated.

1. An older college will likely have stronger internships and hence PPOs.

2. An older college is likely higher in the order of visiting, so in a later visit it's possible the quotas of some firms might be fuller already so they're more picky.

3. Batch size has an effect. If you have a sample of 1000 it's pretty likely you can find at least 10 geniuses. If you have a batch of 100, you'll probably only find 1, all else being equal.
Anony 11 Apr 2016, 07:45
+3 -0
Hi,

I think in addition to all factors listed above, there is also another fact that many people don't take into consideration while looking at the placement statistics of a college.

There are some students (and I am sure the number is actually increasing with every passing year) who are not sure what they want to do after graduating from law school - I am talking of students in their 4th or even 5th year, and this includes a considerable number of students with good CVs and CGPAs (and from what I have seen a good CGPA is not everything, but it definitely is an important factor during recruitment, especially at the stage of shortlisting before interviews). So when day zero happens some time in the 8th semester, a lot of students first apply for it, which process starts about 1-2 months prior to the actual day zero, and then start having second thoughts closer to the interview. A lot of them then sit for the interviews not with the mindset of trying to get through but with the mindset of evaluating whether they want to work at law firms at all. This sense of not being sure obviously gets conveyed to the interviewers as well, and hence these students don't get recruited - again not because they are not good enough, but because of the fact that they weren't sure and hence probably did not want to get recruited. Now some days after day zero, they become increasingly sure that they don't want to work at a law firm, and instead want to probably teach, or go for higher studies or maybe be engaged in policy work - thereby effectively ceasing to be a part of the recruitment batch. This brings down the size of the recruitment batch from the time of day zero till the time of graduation (a year later) - sometimes the number comes down from 58 to 48, for instance. Basically a difference of 10.

How does this get reflected in recruitment statistics? Because the recruitment batch size which is taken into account is the one disclosed to news platforms like legallyindia and barandbench during day zero. But by the time graduation comes, the recruitment batch size has decreased by 10 - and say all those 48 (as in the example above) get placed somewhere or the other - some through campus placements, some through PPOs, some by their own efforts. Would you say that the RCC was not able to place 10 students and hence the placement success rate was 83% (48 out of 58)? Or would you say that it was 100% because only that many students wanted to get recruited in the first place? The others wanted to pursue other goals in life. Would it then mean that a college which is able to place only a certain percentage of its students (and this number is less because lesser number of students want to get recruited at firms/companies) is less successful than a college which manages to place more number of students (because more number of students wanted to get placed at firms/companies)?

And this doesn't even take into account students who come to law schools, study for 5 years and at the end of it have absolutely no freaking clue what they want to do in life - and hence they just go back home and try and figure things out - does that reflect on the quality of the law school? Or does it reflect on the quality of the students?

Or does it just mean that some people take longer time in life to figure their shit out and hence no college or student should be put down for that? This basically ties in with the question of - are recruitment statistics everything for a college?

Thoughts please?

Thanks.
Anonymous 123 10 Apr 2016, 15:05
+1 -1
If the rcc batch does not comprise of 41 students, how do they place those many on day zero?
And when people say percentages are to be seen- it is because no batch will have all students who are recruitable. If Nujs takes in 150,odds mandate the number of students who are recruitable will be more. If gnlu despite taking in 150, can't place more than 15, it reflects badly, as the majority are not recruitable I.e. overall quality pool is low.
If two colleges, have 30% students who sit getting placed, their placements are the same. Quantity wise, yes, Nujs might have more kids who are recruitable. But that's because of the number they take in.
Anonymous 123 10 Apr 2016, 15:10
+2 -0
40 out of 150.
20 out of 80.

Assuming students are of the same quality, just as difficult.
If we assume that Nujs has a better crowd, it's tougher to get placed at Nujs as it's tougher to be in the top quarter if the minds are sharper :P
NUJS 12 Apr 2016, 10:27
+1 -0
We dont have 150 students. 125 is the maximum batch strength. So if you people want to cry about NUJS v. NLU-D atleast do it with the correct numbers. Also, see how many people are sitting for the placements rather than the whole batch.
Please 9 Apr 2016, 19:29
+17 -2
Please don't start hating on NLUD now. Honestly, we're just trying to get by and do the best we can. There is no need for putting us down for any reason. If you're from an another nlu, and you've placed many more kids this year, then great, well done, good for you. Half the time people start comparisons when honestly we really don't care about how well or how poorly the others are doing. We're just looking to do the best we can.
Guest. 10 Apr 2016, 03:19
+2 -4
Very disappointing and puzzling. NLUD has the best faculty among NLUs, the advantage of being located in Delhi, great infrastructure, and a lot of money. Many people thought NLUD would be poised to overtake the top NLUs, which have terrible faculty and admin, shortage of funds and collapsing infrastructure. I just cannot understand why this has happened. Is it that employers prefer CLAT rankers than AILET rankers? Is it that NLUD students get complacent because they get so many privileges and perks which other students don't --- like a mini-Jindal?

Anyway, instead of fighting students from law schools and demand that their universities be converted to national universities from state universities, and be unified like the IIMs and IITs. Why has this not happened?
kianganz 10 Apr 2016, 04:31
+5 -0
How's it disappointing? For a young law school, placing 21 by Day Zero with national law firms is impressive.

Remember, this college is younger than HNLU, CNLU and lots of other colleges.

The locational advantage helps, as does the budget for faculty, and the questionable choice, legally, to stay out of CLAT.

But the Day Zero numbers are hard to criticise, considering 3 years ago some older national law schools were saying NLU Delhi will never amount to anything...
Anon... 10 Apr 2016, 06:36
+5 -5
No one said NLUD will not amount to anything. On the contrary people had great expectations: it is the only NLU which has money! And the only NLUD with decent faculty. Something must have gone wrong.
COncerned Reader 10 Apr 2016, 16:22
+1 -0
What's there final tally?
15 or 21?
The corrected headline shows 15!
ILS & Symbi 11 Apr 2016, 10:17
+0 -1
Dear Kian, Please could you also share the placement statistics for ILS and Symbiosis? I ask as I am getting lured to join Symbi with its ads all over your pages - if its the only one that can advertise like the way it is, then probably its the best option. I have no family or friends to advise me on this. I am poor and live in a village.
Corp Jobs, really? 11 Apr 2016, 11:14
+3 -0
The great thing that NLUD faculty and alumni have been successful in doing is to take students away from this rat race of corporate firm jobs. NLUD is more than what these placement stats tell you about it, far bigger. What NLUD (or maybe even Jiggles) gets out of 5 years in law school hardly any other NLU in India can offer its students that.

It would be better to look at these stats from the perspective of how many students want to be sitting for law firm jobs anymore in NLUD - firms were disappointed that not many high ranking students were sitting for corp placement. That says a lot.
NLUD Vac Scheme 11 Apr 2016, 11:19
+3 -3
Consistent performance Vac Scheme Performance of NLUD. Last year it was 3, year before that was also 3 and this year its 4.

Day Zero is actually quite a lousy standard to be judging an NLU.