NLU Delhi starts 50% Delhi state domicile reservations, following wider NLU balkanisation trend

Wednesday, 15 January 2020 By Legally India Law schools

Flavour of the season: 50% state reservations in 2020 NLU Delhi
Flavour of the season: 50% state reservations in 2020 NLU Delhi

As the latest national law school (NLU) to make major concessions to its state government, NLU Delhi is introducing a 50% state domicile reservation for the upcoming applications, held via the All India Law Entrance Test (AILET) on 3 May 2020.

According to the notification of the AILET (see above), out of the 110 undergraduate standard merit seats, “50% seats are reserved for students of Delhi”. Another 10 seats for “direct admission… on merit”, split evenly between foreign nationals and Overseas Citizens of India (OCI), are presumably not subject to this reservation.

That 50% horizontal reservation will also apply equally to the incoming up-to 70 one-year LLM students, and will apply horizontally across all other reserved categories (SC/ST/OBC/EWS/Persons with Disabilities).

We have reached out to NLU Delhi for comment and further clarification.

Something in the air…

NLU Delhi is the latest NLU to go for state domicile reservations (though the exact shape NLU Delhi’s will take and who will qualify as a Delhi resident is not yet clear), and considering that most younger law schools have started with state reservations, it may have been the only one left without them (please let us know in the comments if there are any NLUs without state reservations).

Update 14:12: As pointed out in the comments, eligibility for NLU Delhi’s state reservation is as follows, according to the prospectus:

Delhi Region Seats: Candidates passing the qualifying examination from a recognized School/ College/ Institute located within the National Capital Territory (NCT) of Delhi only will be eligible to apply for seats reserved for Delhi Region. In case distance education students, If the centre of examination/ study centre is located in the N.C.T. of Delhi, the candidate shall be considered under the Delhi Region and if the centre of examination/ study centre is located outside N.C.T. of Delhi, he/ she shall be considered under the All India Level seats.

Current statuses of other NLUs that had originally been founded without state domicile reservations:

Former NUJS student president Arjun Agarwal has argued that domicile quotas would reduce the national character of law schools and

2019 AILET admissions did not have state reservations

According to last year’s AILET admissions announcement (see below), NLU Delhi has previously not had any state reservations.

However, practically, around 15% of NLU Delhi undergraduates have been Delhi-ites: according to National Institutional Ranking Framework (NIRF) figures supplied by NLU Delhi in 2019, only 64 out of a total of its 411 undergraduate students across all batches come from within the Delhi state.

The one-year postgraduate had been more heavily dominated by Delhi-ites, making up 13 out of 23 LLM students (56%).

In 2019, NLU Delhi had no state reservation
In 2019, NLU Delhi had no state reservation

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Comments

Mandore Express 15 Jan 2020, 08:12
+8 -3
NLUJ doesn't have a state reservation yet. The students fought tooth and nail against it and had succeeded so far. But the future looks bleak now.
Correct 15 Jan 2020, 10:41
+2 -1
Kian, Comment 1 is factually correct. There have been rumours since a long time about state reservation at NLUJ, but it hasn't been introduced yet.
kianganz 15 Jan 2020, 10:52
+0 -0
Yes, thanks, a correction had been made in the story.
Guest 15 Jan 2020, 14:19
+14 -2
Whose teeth did they break and whose ass did they nail to the wall? Never heard of any actual protest happening at NLUJ barring the mini-demo last year before Saxena. Didn't it get covered here or anywhere else?
Guest 15 Jan 2020, 19:19
+0 -0
[img]https://media3.giphy.com/media/113YkW9oWdtFlu/200.gif[/img]
Criteria stated hai 15 Jan 2020, 08:26
+1 -1
The crtieria as to who is a delhi domcile person is stated in their admisson brochure. It is any student who has passed school from delhi
Guest 15 Jan 2020, 08:26
+6 -0
@Kian - your story doesn't mention but NLUD has also increased seats from 80 to 120. Means more students - impact on placement, more teaching load - impact on research quality and quantity, and additional load on already limited infrastructure.
Guest 15 Jan 2020, 14:22
+13 -0
This is very true and unfortunately, quite sad. I was just speaking to a faculty member from NLUD, who expressed the same concern.
Death of NLUD 15 Jan 2020, 08:26
+6 -0
Would this hamper NLUD's growth, looks like so
Tauji 15 Jan 2020, 08:36
+1 -0
This is the entire breakdown of the seats and who qualifies as a Delhi student:

https://nludelhi.ac.in/download/ailet-2020/BA.LLB(Hons)%202020.pdf
2.8 15 Jan 2020, 08:42
+0 -0
Nalsar Hyderabad has had 50% since 2017?

Is this factually correct?
Ex Nalsar 15 Jan 2020, 08:47
+5 -1
Nalsar does not have 50 per cent domicile reservation. It has 20 per cent since 2010.
kianganz 15 Jan 2020, 09:07
+1 -0
Many thanks @6 & @7 for pointing out, now corrected. Looks like it's still 20%.
Eh 15 Jan 2020, 12:17
+11 -1
This is terrible news. And a bad trend. Having said that, hilarious is retrospect at the NLUD trolls saying NLS is finished due to the proposed 25% (which hasn't even been introduced in the assembly, let alone accepted by the EC/GC or notified in the admissions advert); and that NLUD will be left as the only pan-India law university. Karma.
Guest 15 Jan 2020, 14:09
+16 -3
Law School's Karma just ran over NLUD's dogma.
Guest 15 Jan 2020, 14:24
+17 -3
Yeah, the trolls have been dissing Law School, NALSAR and NUJS about this for quite some time now. What goes around, comes around.
Guest 15 Jan 2020, 12:49
+2 -1
Serves you right for not joining the #NationaliseNLUs fight despite requests, as you considered some of these NLUs two be "lower" than you.
Guest 16 Jan 2020, 04:34
+19 -3
Dude, NLUD is like that loan shark that has been sucking the blood of law school aspirants for over a decade by holding a separate entrance exam under the guise of a technicality. Just for the sake of making more money. What else can be expected of them anyway? I have zero sympathy for this law school.
Guest 15 Jan 2020, 12:50
+1 -20
This will not change the NIRF ranking and NLUD will continue to remain #2. Reason is that student quality from Delhi is inherently better than other cities + ranking looks at faculty, infra and research output, where NLUD is ahead.
Guest 15 Jan 2020, 14:14
+20 -3
Bwahaha! Is this why NLUD batches till date never had more than 15% students from Delhi? That's as per the official data they have provided to NIRF etc. So you are admitting that so far NLUD only had majority inferior students and their reign of superiority is starting from now? As for research, isn't the quality of publications of your faculty actually lower than that of NLSIU, NALSAR and NUJS? Again, NIRF scores are saying that, not me. Finally, you do realise that with sudden increase of student strength by 50% from 80 to 120, teachers are now going to have far more teaching workload, usually at the cost of their research time, don't you? Actually, scratch that last question, you clearly don't have any clue about how it actually works.
Guest 15 Jan 2020, 14:28
+21 -3
FYI, all law school demographic data support that students from the South Indian states and Bengal usually do much better academically compared to others. Delhi having 'inherently better' students, that's a laugh! Wait, by better, did you mean they party harder? Then you are not much off the mark, probably.
Source 16 Jan 2020, 11:03
+2 -5
Wow can you source the "data" you used to make that assertion.
Guest 16 Jan 2020, 11:31
+8 -3
Check the Rhodes scholars, scholarship winners or even batch toppers from the top tier NLUs across the country and you'd figure it out yourself. Even the list of NLU alumni academics in India and abroad.
Bill Carson 13 Feb 2020, 12:59
+0 -0
Not a Delhiite (or from closeby) and also from a top tier NLU- academics is not restricted to "topping batch" only. As a matter of fact, the topper of my batch made it to the law school on 2nd attempt and that too was on the waiting list in the second attempt. Also know many people who did well in law school despite not having great marks in school. Marks in law school do provide a head start but little beyond. The person who has had the best professional life from my batch is not even into law but has transitioned to management. [i][b]This is not to say that the person who claimed students from Delhi are better was right or anywhere close to that.[/b][/i]
Guest 13 Feb 2020, 14:05
+3 -0
@Bill Carson: I agree with you. However, if you want to gauge the academic bent of mind of a law student, and are looking for some sort of objective metric, then his academic performance in law school has to be a significant metric till something better can be found. Regarding your point about professional success, academic performance need not be the only factor involved in it and I agree with you on that. However, I'm fairly certain that if you look into the career trajectory of all the batch toppers from your NLU over the years, most of them would have also done reasonably well in life later. Therefore, in law at least, academic performance may indicate diligence and sincerity which if continued in professional life, are also likely to produce success. That doesn't mean a person with a low CGPA can't have other qualities that later help him gain equal success professionally, but that's not the original point being discussed here.
Guest 15 Jan 2020, 12:51
+2 -10
Populist student by Kejriwal and AAP before Delhi elections. Hope these idiots lose.
Anonymous11 16 Jan 2020, 12:48
+12 -3
It's not Kejrwal's or the AAP govt.'s doing. Read up before you speak out of your ass, troll.
Guest 16 Jan 2020, 14:47
+10 -1
Since when has reading been a troll's strong point anyway?
Guest 15 Jan 2020, 12:55
+1 -7
NALSAR is getting 85% reservation very soon. Please read the papers in local languages instead of English, which have covered these issues.
Fake News 15 Jan 2020, 14:13
+7 -1
This is inaccurate, certain political parties demanded the reservation. But the State Government has absolutely no plans to implement them.
Guest 15 Jan 2020, 15:12
+12 -4
NALSAR already has a huge horizontal reservation for women of 50%. Now, both they and NLSIU like to show that they have higher general category seats, so they don't mention these reservations directly, apart from as separate disclaimer-like mentions. But they do exist. The actual all-India general seats on offer at both these places are much lesser in number than what their brochures claim.
Fake News 16 Jan 2020, 11:46
+6 -7
Again no,
Nalsar has a 30% horizontal reservation for women that is hardly ever used as the incoming batch size almost always has 30% women in it.
Guest 16 Jan 2020, 12:14
+9 -3
The point isn't that. All horizontal reservations are like that only, including PWD. The point is if in any year the CLAT rank list holders are mostly male, then the horizontal reservation would definitely come into effect and all of them won't get the seats despite having scored higher. So to call those seats as All-India general seats is a misnomer. By that logic, all NLUs having any form of horizontal reservations and showing those properly actually have more 'general' seats than they are being given credit for. NALSAR probably doesn't even show the PWD seats separately, because that reservation is horizontal too according to them. Again, the same issue can occur if there is no pwd candidate in the first 150 rank holders. Obviously you'd have to take a person with lower rank.
Guest 16 Jan 2020, 12:17
+6 -3
If it is capable of being used even once for a single seat in the years since the reservation has been put into effect, calling those seats all India general seats is still misrepresentation. You should know at least that much law by now.
Guest 15 Jan 2020, 12:56
+2 -3
Nationalise NLUs now!!! It is unacceptable that JGLS gets IOE status while NLUs get second class treatment.
Guest 15 Jan 2020, 14:28
+11 -3
They are second class. State universities. With less resources and less autonomy. Objectively speaking. It's just that they get better students.
Guest 15 Jan 2020, 12:58
+2 -1
Parting gift by Ranbir Singh and challenge faced by next VC (prob Srividhya).
Guest 15 Jan 2020, 15:13
+15 -0
Srividhya, unfortunately, is not going to be the NLUD VC. You read it here first. Don't get me wrong, I really wish she would have made it!
Kaun hoga phir 16 Jan 2020, 07:55
+2 -0
Kaun hi hoga phir, ye bata do
PSJ 16 Jan 2020, 14:50
+7 -0
Mooch nahin toh kuchh nahin!
Guest 15 Jan 2020, 18:51
+3 -1
LMAO...NLUD students who were trolling NLSIU and NUJS after domicile quota in these colleges. You now have greater domicile quota than them.
Indeed 16 Jan 2020, 03:54
+2 -0
NLS still doesn't have domicile. It's a proposed bill in the assembly, and in any case can't apply for this year. Giving the admin, students and alumni time to oppose it. On the other hand, NLUD admin (and not the NCT govt) has taken the initiative on their own to completely dilute any semblance of national character.
Guest 15 Jan 2020, 20:53
+1 -6
Kian, I think Arjun Agarwal made a more nuanced argument in the article that you hyperlinked. He argued that domicile quotas in NLU are not only populist measures lacking credible evidence or transparency in data collection but also measures that do not ensure the touted "social justice goals". There is a strong urban bias and VCs and others willingly agree to secure their hot seats.

Mostly quotas (among other measures) by state govts are mostly "have power, will (mis)use"
Guest 16 Jan 2020, 06:35
+3 -2
Does he back it with data? How 'strong' is the 'strong urban bias'? Is there 'some' benefit nonetheless? Once almost every state has its own 'National' law university can we still continue to refer to them as 'national' because of the name? Would accepting them as largely 'state institutions' help boost the state's legal education capacity by a small fraction? Would having quota of 2 (Gen) + 1 (SC) + 1 (ST) seats for each state in each 'national' law school be a better system of providing opportunity for student's from all states to get into a national law university, while furthering diversity (with horizontal EWS and women's reservations, and a +'x' PWD, and a +'y' FN quota)?
Guest 16 Jan 2020, 11:26
+9 -1
Heh, you think the author has actually bothered with data collection, interpretation or analysis? It's all his 'personal opinion', based on his 'years of experience'.
Jaaneman 16 Jan 2020, 04:46
+2 -6
I am done screaming for nationalisation of NLUs. Would’ve been sorted if I joined Jindal on that scholarship, they are killing it out there
Guest 16 Jan 2020, 05:15
+16 -5
Killing what exactly? Can you please provide a list of the achievements made by the Jindal graduates over the last decade and compare it with any of the top 4-5 NLUs? I would be really interested to see that. The final measure of a university would always be what its graduates achieve out in the world, not the number of faculty having foreign degrees or the number of expensive exchange programmes that it provides for. Even when it comes to research projects etc., how many meaningful projects have emerged from Jindal so far? I am not saying the NLUs are better on the front either, but this hype without any substance behind it is tiring. I would admit that Jindal has the best infra of all law schools in India. But then, if the NLUs start charging that much from the students and have 500 plus students in every batch, they would be able to afford such infra too! You may argue that Jindal has better faculty on pen and paper (mostly because of foreign degrees rather than anything else), but most of the good ones don't get to teach bulk of the students anyway and even when they do, if they are not being able to train the students better, then what good is their personal CV anyway?
Guest 365365 22 Jan 2020, 07:59
+0 -3
Well, unlike most NLU's, Jindal is yet to up its publication game showcasing its students achievements. If you are still so interested to find out it's 'achievements', you may reach out to the CPD of Jindal or it's alumni association. To use your phrase, it is unfair to 'comment without substance'. Most of those who are making the headlines (especially on this magazine) are all those who graduated prior to 2010. But this 'oH WheRe ArE GrAdUAte AchIvEmenTs' has to stop. They don't owe you anything. If you're so interested, look beyond these magazines and do some ground research.
Guest 22 Jan 2020, 08:21
+3 -0
They don't owe me anything, which is true. But you who is making random claims about its superiority, do need to substantiate such claims or else you would get called out just like you have been now. If one needs to ask a university what its graduates have done, instead of simply knowing about the graduates out in the real world and identifying those with the university, that alone goes to show that the achievement column is not as full as you might be claiming. graduate achievements are the primary metric of how good a university is, whether you like that or not is irrelevant. How good a teacher is would also always be measured by how good their students have become, not by how many degrees they possess. I don't have to go to NLSIU, NALSAR or NUJS' alumni association to find out how their alumni have been doing, not even NLUD's.
Guest 365365 22 Jan 2020, 10:11
+0 -4
Por favor. I never claimed it had 'superior achievements'. All I said was the admin doesn't do a good job of highlighting student achievements. The admin does go on length to highlight its foreign faculty and other such achievements, but when it comes to it's own students, that's where it falls short. If achievements are to be characterized in terms of scholarship holders or job placements, I'll have you know that graduates do fairly well on that count. Again, I'd give you proof, unfortunately Jindal doesn't even put it up on it's own website other than a passing mention that students who graduate from there do well (you can find the placement figures on the website that aren't that bad, considering that it's just a fraction of students who actually end up sitting for placements). As someone who attended that college for a year and dropped it for NUALS, I can attest to the fact that the admin focuses a lot more on faculty achievement than student achievements. The point of having foreign degrees don't necessarily make you the best teachers is correct. But that isn't to say that all those who have foreign degrees and who teach in Jindal are bad. There are some stellar ones who did teach me during my time there. Further, where is the question of 'achievements columns being full'? I haven't mentioned anything of the sort in my comment. Further, it's quite difficult to have and retain a large number of foreign collaborations if your foreign partners aren't assured of graduate quality. Employers wouldn't hire graduates from Jindal if they thought their applicants were so bad. There are achievements, albeit a small number when you pit it against the top few NLUs given barely a few batches have graduated. If you still aren't convinced, then I have nothing more to say. Good day.
Guest 22 Jan 2020, 10:58
+2 -0
The original comment was about how all the NLUs are going down while Jindal was 'killing it'. All subsequent replies have to be seen in the light of that claim. If you don't believe that to be the case, then we are talking at cross-purposes here. As for your other comments, some are seriously lacking in factual basis, such as foreign universities having to be sure about graduate outcomes before signing MoUs (sorry to say that you have no idea how these MoUs happen), employers gathering en masse to hire from Jindal etc. Nor was Jindal compared to only older NLUs (the original comment did and dubbed it better), but also to NLUD, which is more or less contemporary. Apart from infra and being the very best paymaster for faculty in the country, as of now Jindal cannot lay claim to being the best or even near that in any metric. Maybe one day it would. But that day hasn't come yet.
Guest 365365 26 Jan 2020, 14:16
+0 -1
Yes, the killing it phrase seems exaggerated, not going to deny that, and it's unclear about killing it vis a vis whom. Is it NLUD or the other NLU's? Even NLUD's graduates are fairly small in number compared to the other established NLU's, and I don't think every graduate from these colleges are 'killing it' and certainly not JGLS. Well, I don't know about recruiters hiring en masse but this report by LI and what's there on the JGLS website seem to tally

https://www.legallyindia.com/lawschools/jgls-wins-solid-2019-placements-with-60-firm-corp-jobs-29-go-biglaw-23-lit-94-rcc-strike-rate-total-batch-of-395-20190518-10314. Unless of course we say that it's false and LI and JGLS are fooling the general public.

I'm not trying to say Jindal graduates are the best or that they beat all other graduates. But to homogenise narratives and say that there aren't any achievements is plain unfair to those who are actually doing good work. It's difficult to say how graduates stack up against others in the absence of data. But yes, Jindal grads are far from being 'the best', but no college can stake claim to the fact that their graduates are the best.
Guest 27 Jan 2020, 01:23
+2 -0
So out of a batch of 500 plus, 29 secure tier one law firm jobs and that's supposed to be a big deal? That's not even 10% of the batch! Places like Symbi, Nirma and KIIT also have that kind of stats.
Guest 22 Jan 2020, 08:27
+3 -0
'Upping its publication game'? Don't make me laugh. Jindal admin would publish and showcase the smallest of things that they can and create a fanfare about it, that's always been their policy and they actually have paid employees for that purpose. Not that there is anything wrong with that. However, in the past, they have even published half-truths and had to eat crow later, such as when they claimed best recruitment stats among all Indian law schools in one year. Never even issued an apology after they had been called out for that, just surreptitiously withdrew the piece. So if they aren't publishing or showcasing student achievements, it's because there hasn't been much to publish so far. Plain and simple. Their faculty even write and publish about meetings that they have with school students and parents to 'educate' them about legal education (in reality, all those people hear about is Jinda;'s supposed 'greatness' and canvassing in those meetings), so this 'media-shy' profile that you are trying to project is a figment of your imagination!
Guest 365365 22 Jan 2020, 10:19
+0 -2
Yeah well too bad you never studied there or know what it's like on the inside either. It doesn't help that Jindal students don't vociferously defend their college on this forum either. All I am giving you is a perspective as an ex insider. Take it as you will. Cheers.
Guest 22 Jan 2020, 11:04
+2 -0
You seem to make very strange assumptions during your arguments, which maybe caused by lack of maturity. What made you think that simply because one hasn't spent 12 months in Jindal like you did one fine year, that person would be lacking in insider contacts? Nor are any of our discussions referring to any such knowledge either, they were mostly about information that the university makes public or outsiders get to know about university's graduates when they work in real life. Again, good universities don't have to beat the trumpets of their graduates. The latter shine enough by themselves in the real world to attract attention. So far that's not happened in Jindal's case, so obviously questions about graduate outcome would be raised. There's no metric greater to establish credentials of any university. Neither MoUs signed with foreign universities so that rich students can spend semesters or summers up there, nor how may foreign LLMs the faculty have, can be substitutes of that, no matter how much you protest otherwise. The fact that you chose NUALS after spending one year at Jindal itself speaks volumes about the place.
Guest 365365 26 Jan 2020, 13:42
+0 -2
Ever considered the possibility of switching colleges due to financial pressure at home before coming to hasty judgements about how the college is? I guess not. Yes, I am definitely privileged, but not every privileged or rich student is spoilt or god for nothing. Before you comment on my 'lack of maturity' again, let me remind you again that this was my perspective being an ex student. It was never meant to be compared to anyone else or your 'insider contacts'. So again, a different perspective. You are right in saying good universities don't beat their own trumpets about their graduates. In my internships at least (2 in think tanks and one in a tier 1 corporate firm), the Jindal interns do pretty well for themselves, and among the associates and the partners, there seems to be general goodwill for the college. Again, you can refute this by giving dozens of instances of how they're terrible. I'm not trying to say Jindal graduates are the best (really, is there any college's graduates in the world that are the 'best'?) or that they beat all other graduates. But to homogenise narratives and say that there aren't any achievements is plain unfair to those who are actually doing good work.
Guest 26 Jan 2020, 15:03
+2 -0
What good work? Your perspective is that of a self-confessed student and hence it is highly unlikely for you to be aware of even what doing good work actually means. That much is obvious from the way you cite internships as indicators of achievements, especially when you are not the person under whom those whom you mentioned have been doing their internships, but just a co-intern yourself. Perspective as an 'ex-student' doesn't count for anything unless you can actually cite objective examples of the achievements about which outsiders lack knowledge. So far, despite writing long comments, you have failed to cite a single such instance. Show me Jindal graduates getting Rhodes, Chevening, Fulbright, Commonwealth scholarships, regularly cracking Civils, sizable percentages of the batch (comparable with top NLUs) getting recruited by law firms every year, entrepreneurs floating start-ups, people joining academia in India or abroad and doing good research, and only then all the claims that you are making would get substantiated. So far, you have singularly failed to do that. Again, you avoided taking into consideration the fact that all this had started with the original claim of Jindal grads 'killing it'. Even assuming that individual students at Jindal are doing the same things as students as NLU students do in general, that doesn't make the graduate outcome of the institution anywhere near the top NLUs. Such individual achievements can also be found across other private universities. As of now, graduate outcome-wise, Jindal is nowhere even close to the top NLUs (not even its contemporary NLUD) and regardless of how much you keep expounding, that will remain a fact until evidence to the contrary has been submitted.
Guest 16 Jan 2020, 05:28
+10 -1
When and where and how loud did you scream? Did you get onto the street? Write editorials or even blog posts? Wrote to the minister concerned? The CJI? Basically, done anything at all apart from venting anonymously on these fora? Try improving the law school that you are in, why don't you?
Guest 16 Jan 2020, 10:21
+0 -4
We need an SC PIL challenging the grant of Eminence status to Jindal and discrimination against NLUs. This is crony capitalism.
Guest 16 Jan 2020, 11:29
+11 -0
It would get rejected at the first opportunity. Apart from NALSAR, no other NLU is multi disciplinary unlike JGU. Even NALSAR's MBA programme is definitely a shoddy one. No unidisciplinary institution has been granted IoE status till date. INI they can get at the max.
Guest 16 Jan 2020, 10:26
+0 -7
Please remember NIRF parameters before jumping to conclusions. As much as 40% essentially depends on faculty (e.g. research publications, consultancy projects, faculty ratio etc). Another 10% depends on number of PhD students and completed PhDs. Only 10% or so depends on state-wise diversity. At best NLUD's score may come down by 2 or 3 points. Others NLUs will also drop by the same points.
Guest 16 Jan 2020, 11:30
+11 -0
Faculty ratio is also coming down. NLUD has increased student strength from 80 to 120 all of a sudden. Over the next 5 years, they would have 200 more students than they do now.
Guest 16 Jan 2020, 16:42
+1 -0
Srividhya is visiting NLUD on behalf of her college to have collaboration. A sign that she is not getting the post?

https://twitter.com/Ahdieology/status/1216966104939212802
Guest 16 Jan 2020, 17:26
+9 -0
Yes. In the end, she lacked the political pull necessary to swing it in her favour despite having all the qualifications necessary. We don't really deserve capable candidates here.
Oh? 17 Jan 2020, 12:53
+0 -0
Is this just speculation or is she actually out of the running?
Guest 17 Jan 2020, 13:21
+4 -0
Based on insider information.
Anonymous 2002 17 Jan 2020, 12:19
+4 -1
They are simply making the students who don't have good law school in their states suffer. The competition has become so tough for them and they might have turned out to be better lawyers than the people getting domicile. At the end these are 'national' law Universities not 'State'. Law Universities
Guest 17 Jan 2020, 13:18
+6 -0
What is stopping the respective state governments from building good law schools in the state? Or investing in the ones that are already there? Barring the NE states, all other states in the country has at least one NLU now (even Kashmir is coming up with one soon). Moreover, the domicile quota doesn't mean students from other states cannot join at all, just in lesser numbers. If state government funds/supports the NLUs, logic dictates that they would want something in return. If Centre wants domicile quotas to go away, it should nationalise all NLUs and provide funding. Although this government and especially this law minister is highly unlikely to do that.
Guest 17 Jan 2020, 12:30
+0 -0
Any chance of a Nationalise NLUs protest now?
Guest 17 Jan 2020, 13:21
+4 -0
No.
Guest 17 Jan 2020, 12:34
+1 -3
MNLU will overtake NLUD now.
Guest 17 Jan 2020, 13:20
+10 -0
Let it do better than GLC first. So far, it has not produced even a single batch of graduates and singing paeans of it seems rather premature. Maharashtra already has as many as 3 NLUs, which is in itself a joke!
Guest 17 Jan 2020, 14:48
+0 -0
Does anybody have any idea why NLUD VC selection is taking so long?
I know 17 Jan 2020, 16:35
+0 -4
I know, but LI will censor my comment if I give the details. All I can say is that there is a conspiracy involving the highest levels of government.
Guest 18 Jan 2020, 02:59
+6 -0
Why is there a need for conspiracy at all? The people who are the decision makers here actually have all the power to take any decision and colour it as a legitimate one!
Guest 17 Jan 2020, 18:13
+0 -5
Trust me: we are literally just days away from NALSAR getting a 50% Telangana quota.
Guest 18 Jan 2020, 04:45
+9 -0
How many days?
Guest 18 Jan 2020, 05:26
+8 -0
Technically, everything that isn't happening during the next 24 hours is literally just days away from us. Even interstellar travel.
Guest 18 Jan 2020, 12:48
+0 -1
NLUD VC selection is stuck as there is a split with the committee. One member is saying merit should get priority over seniority, so SR should be VC. Others are saying the reverse and saying it should be PSJ or SKDR.
Guest 18 Jan 2020, 14:32
+10 -0
Does SR have any prior admin experience?
Guest 18 Jan 2020, 14:35
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Does Srividhya's better academic credentials make her necessarily more meritorious for the VC position, which is essentially an admin post? Sudhir had that sort of experience too, remember, during his stint at APU. I do not think an academic without any form of admin experience should be made the VC of an NLU no matter how good an academic that person may be. Of course, if she has already acquired that sort of experience, then she's the right person for that job. In any case, she is better than PSJ any day!
Guest 19 Jan 2020, 03:53
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Admin work is the domain of the Registrar, accounts officer etc. A VC needs to be a respected academician first and foremost, whose concern should be to improve the quality of teaching and research. After that, he/she should be an ambassador for the college and build connections with government, industry and universities abroad.
Guest 19 Jan 2020, 06:24
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How 'respected' an academician was RS? He's the one who did all what you are saying and made NLUD the way it is today within a decade, so much so that academics from abroad are actually applying to be its VC now. In order to improve quality of teaching, research, networking etc., one does not need to have a host of publications himself, nor teach at Ivy League universities abroad. Even Madhava Menon himself had none of that in his favour. One can always appoint good quality researchers and teachers as Deans to take care of teaching and research issues.
Guest 19 Jan 2020, 06:41
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@26.2.1: You are quibbling about terminology. Whether you call the VC's job to be an administrative one or not, it also requires experience of similar nature. Every leadership job does. That's why professors become departmental heads first, then deans and then directors, VCs etc. Regardless of whatever work the VC is supposed to do, teaching or doing research himself isn't part of it. So no matter how good a candidate's teaching or research record is, it cannot be the sole determinant for a job like this. Certainly it is an important factor. But so is experience in handling similar if lesser positions. TBF to SR, I don't really know about her work experience in detail. It's quite possible that she too has had such experience before.
Guest 19 Jan 2020, 03:44
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It is a three-member committee. That's what voting is for. Nowhere does it mandate that the members have to be unanimous in their choice.
Guest 19 Jan 2020, 06:26
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NLUD students are quietly lobbying against the "frontrunner", avoiding publicity from LI and BB. They have already filed a petition saying track record in present NLUs and protests against candidates must be taken into account. They wish to do a repeat of the coup at NLSIU that brought in Sudhir.
Guest 19 Jan 2020, 07:09
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While I applaud the initiative, one must also remember the role played by the more progressive members of the NLSIU search committee. Let's face it, had MP Singh not been in it, Sudhir probably wouldn't have made it. I do not see such people in the NLUD search committee, but keeping fingers crossed. Only good, young, progressive leadership can save the NLUs at this point, they are facing a lot of obstacles as it is.
Lawyer100 19 Jan 2020, 15:52
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Jindal is now only top law school which has no quota. This is going to better its position vis-a-vis NLUs.
Guest 20 Jan 2020, 00:42
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It does have a quota. It's called the Richie Rich/Veronica Lodge quota. Didn't you know?
Guest 20 Jan 2020, 16:18
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Rubbish! JGLS has a 15% Haryana quota where they pay no fee. And the quota mostly goes to Gurgaon residents with surnames like [...], [...] etc
Guest 21 Jan 2020, 03:54
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Can you please refer to the brochure or any official communication that says students availing of the Haryana quota won't have to pay any fees for the whole 5 years? Because I couldn't find anything to that effect.
Insider 25 Jan 2020, 20:35
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There is no quota for Haryana or anybody in Jindal. No NRI quota or management quota. Even Mr. Jindal doesn't have any seat. Only LSAT exam cutoff considered for admission.
Guest 26 Jan 2020, 04:28
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Yeah, no obvious or official quota. Although I've known of a few cases where students scoring very low in LSAT have eventually made it in, that too after the semester is well in motion. But that sort of thing is expected at any private university.
Guest 20 Jan 2020, 16:14
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NLUD VC will be chosen after the Delhi election. AAP law minister Kailash Gahlot (if he retains his ministry) will decide everything. He is a Jat and DU candidate, so he will either go with compatriot Ranbir's choice (Srividhya?) or favour a North Indian.
Guest 20 Jan 2020, 16:30
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SR isn't RS' choice. Are you mad! He can't possibly stop her from investigating into all the irregularities committed during his regime. He's got nothing on her, unlike the other two.
Guest 20 Jan 2020, 16:16
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WTF do colleges still have a J&K quota?? Hopefully this will stop after NLU J&K is set up.
Guest 20 Jan 2020, 16:28
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Because the government hasn't got around to abolishing the quota yet. Nor has it restored communication to the valley, but that's a discussion for another day I guess.
Guest 21 Jan 2020, 04:57
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NEWS FLASH: Congress reiterates 85% quota demand at NALSAR.

https://www.thehansindia.com/telangana/congress-demands-implementation-of-ncbc-decision-on-obc-quota-in-law-universities-598540
Guest 21 Jan 2020, 06:00
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So long as they are in the opposition, how's this relevant?
Guest 21 Jan 2020, 08:45
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Relevant for 2 reasons: 1) NCBC has found NALSAR prima facie in violation fo quotas and 2) increases pressure on Jagan Reddy, who is anyway a populist CM. If not 85% then at least 50 to 60% can be expected.
Guest 21 Jan 2020, 14:13
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NCBC has not passed any interim order like the piece mentioned.
Guest 21 Jan 2020, 17:20
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Kian, can you find out if the new report is correct and if an order was passed asking Nalsar to increase the quota? Why is Faizan Mustafa keeping everyone in the dark about what transpired? There are two demands sign made: increase in OBC quota + 85% horizontal Telengana quota, e.g. 85% if the merit list must be from Telangana and 85% of the reserved list must also be from Telangana.
Guest 21 Jan 2020, 17:22
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Just in: TOI report on NALSAR quota. It's gonna happen for sure.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/make-obc-quota-must-in-all-law-varsities-congress/articleshow/73470043.cms
Guest 21 Jan 2020, 17:28
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Media is reporting that Congress met with Telangana CM KC Rao last week demanding 85% NALSAR quota.

[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOyEo1CVAAEOY74.jpg:large[/img]
Guest 21 Jan 2020, 17:29
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[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOxqnZNUEAEBvPV.jpg[/img]
Guest 26 Jan 2020, 07:03
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No such official order has been passed issuing a stay on admission. These reporters probably write such stuff when under the influence of something or another.
Breaking News 26 Jan 2020, 05:10
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Srividhya has apparently dropped out of the VC race for NLUD! This is from an insider who was very sanguine about the news. Looks like the final is going to be between PSJ and Rao. Damn, I was hoping she'd make it through to the VC position, just like Sudhir did. Would have done NLUD a world of good in the long run.
Guest 27 Jan 2020, 04:17
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NLUD would probably introduce a 50% domicile quota in faculty too soon enough. SR won't even qualify under those circumstances.
Guest 26 Jan 2020, 05:12
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Who said JGLS has no Haryana quota? It is obliged under state govt laws to give a 25% quota and certain students also study for free. It's just that the Jindal PR team gives an impression of no quota.

http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/quota-for-domicile-candidates-now-10-/435049/
Guest 26 Jan 2020, 07:01
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Again, can you specify where in the official university website or brochure is this mentioned? Random newspaper articles don't count, since we all know how inaccurate mainstream media can be when it comes to anything to do with law, including law schools. No student studies for free based on quota either, although there are several scholarships based on Lsat performance.
Guest 26 Jan 2020, 12:45
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@35: You don't even read the stuff that you yourself share with others, do you? Even the piece that you shared said that the domicile reservation across all state universities has been reduced to 10% from the erstwhile 25% and the fee waiver provision has been amended. Plus, there's no indication in official brochure and website of JGLS of such a quota ever having been implemented there. As an IoE, it may even be exempted from such rules.
Guest 26 Jan 2020, 15:24
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JGLS does not mention Haryana reservation in the brochure to protect its image. If you do not know that JGLS has Haryana reservation then you are ignorant.
Guest 27 Jan 2020, 01:19
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In the absence of any official confirmation of the quota, we can't take simply your anonymous word from it. There's no proof that you're telling the truth.
Job offer 26 Jan 2020, 19:31
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Reservation is good for nlud. Delhi chaps are smarter tha the rest....
Guest 27 Jan 2020, 01:19
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Joke of the year!
Guest 27 Jan 2020, 03:30
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Keep saying it and you may end up believing it too one day.
Nlu shimla 26 Jan 2020, 19:32
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Whether with or without reservation, we will go past nlud in an year !!
Guest 27 Jan 2020, 02:28
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Just chill. Without Netflix.
Guest 27 Jan 2020, 09:49
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Shame on Legally India for blacking out negative news about NLUD (student protest against domicile quota + sacking of cleaning staff).
Guest 27 Jan 2020, 10:04
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https://www.barandbench.com/news/lawschools/nlu-delhi-students-open-letter-to-delhi-hc-against-50-domicile-reservation
Guest 11 Feb 2020, 09:57
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Now that the Delhi elections are over the VC will be chosen soon: by early March definitely. AAP is basically a party of North Indian Hindi wallahs (Kejriwal never speaks in English) so a North Indian Hindi speaker will be chosen. This eliminates Srividhya and SKD Rao.
Guest 11 Feb 2020, 13:20
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You do know Kejriwal himself is from IIT, right? And he has people in his team with excellent academic credentials like Atishi too. Basically, people who aren't afraid to show the proof of their educational qualification.
Guest 11 Feb 2020, 11:04
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Manish Sisodia (Delhi Deputy CM, Education Minister and mastermind behind NLUD quota) has won his seat by a narrow margin. This is a big setback for NLUD. This guy will now ram through the domicile quota and appoint a stooge as VC.
Guest 11 Feb 2020, 13:21
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Good. Why should Delhites miss out on the fun?
Guest 13 Feb 2020, 10:53
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The dirtiest of games are being played to deny Prof Srividhya VCship and instead hand it to a known incompetent and autocratic person. We demand that merit is given priority over seniority!
Guest 13 Feb 2020, 12:18
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So go ahead and demand it. Who's stopping you? How do you think posting anon comments up here is going to help your cause? Write letters to the CJI, CJ of Del HC, EC members, the press.
Guest 14 Feb 2020, 05:03
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If she can't play along and beat these people in their own game, then probably she shouldn't try leading the institution at this stage. because she'd have to keep dealing with such people and their games even after she would take charge.
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