At least 10 national law university LLB graduates have made the cut at the Union Public Service Commission (UPSC) Mains exam for 2013, with a Nalsar Hyderabad graduate in the top 10 rankers and four others in the top 100.
Two law graduates from Symbiosis Pune and IP University Delhi have also cleared the Mains of the exam which is touted as one of the most competitive in the world, with a success rate of under 0.02%.
Nalsar’s 2012 batch gold medalist Sakshi Sawhney secured rank six out of 1,122 candidates who cleared the Mains. Sawhney ties with NLSIU Bangalore graduate and now Indian Foreign Services diplomat Gitanjali Brandon, for securing the highest UPSC rank ever for any national law school graduate.
GNLU 2012 graduate Manisha Khatri obtained rank 35, and 2011 graduate Prashant Mishra came in at 64.
Symbiosis’ LLB holder and NLSIU Bangalore 2011 LLM dropout Rituraj Raghuvanshi secured rank 67. This was the fourth attempt at clearing this exam for the Indian Railway Traffic Services employee.
NLU Jodhpur 2009 graduate Chakravarty Singh Rathore secured rank 85 and NLIU Bhopal 2010 graduate Ankit Asthana secured rank 91.
Other than the top 100, NLSIU Bangalore’s Kalrav Mishra was at 439, NLU Delhi’s John Sebastian was at 309 and Paramveer Singh at 619, HNLU Raipur’s Arvind Vijayan came in at 246, NUJS Kolkata’s Ashutosh Kumar was at 356, NLU Jodhpur’s Nishant Kumar came in at 416 and Gaurav Singh at 825 and IP University’s Deepika Singh was at 452.
An NLU Jodhpur 2011 LLM holder Avi Prasad secured rank 13.
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It would be interesting to do an analysis of those who appear in UPSC and those who get selected considering how most of the law school show a number of candidates taking 'Preparing for UPSC' as an option.
(http://www.nlujodhpur.ac.in/news_detail.php?newsid=244)
It would be nice if you put people whose names/ranks are available in order of merit.
Thank you for your comment.
Listing in order of ranks .. that's what the UPSC list is for! We have here not a reproduction of the list but a story leading with which national law school "graduates" made it - a sample we observe each year because of the relative "novelty" of graduating from a national law school, and not because of its "superiority".
Best wishes,
Prachi
You did not grasp the spirit of my comment! I was only saying that it is strange to see rank 13 reported in the end (as if as an afterthought) – it has nothing to do with any lawschool or "superiority". It is natural to discuss top 25 (or 100) ranks first in a story like this, because it is "novel" indeed for us to read about the UPSC toppers who are lawyers. Of course, it is your story and it is your prerogative to not report it in a manner that does not appeal to you, regardless of whether it makes sense. I almost missed the last line, which is bigger news for me than reading about ones who secured below rank 100.
Rest assured, I was only giving you honest feedback about how the story reads, or should ideally read.
Peace.
That's [u][b]with [/b][/u]the reservation. For General candidates the cut off is much higher.
Damn! I think your comment just resulted in a 10-pt plunge in the nation's avg IQ! Do you even know what responsibilities entail an IRTS officer? A tyro IRTS officer starts out as an Area Officer/Manager in the railways commands a 1000-strong staff and is responsible for the ops of all trains (goods included) traversing his jurisdiction, coupled with the HR role he/she discharges with the looming threat of militant trade unionism. All this with a retinue of servants at his beck and call and a quaint, cozy bungalow to reside in! This is just one leaf out of a bulging book. Imagine, then, what it takes to run an entire zone, or for that matter, the entire railway ministry. My father's a senior IRTS officer and is currently the DRM of a division. He is responsible for all railway functions in his jurisdiction spanning 2000 km and has about 20k people reporting to him. He is on-duty 24x7 and puts in 12 hours even on a Saturday, when he could be teeing-off with officers from "better" services, who are putting in time as, say one of the CGMs of the State Sheep Wool Development Corporation. And if this is tantamount to a meaningless sinecure, involving someone "signing away their lives", I have bad news for you. Please have yourself tested.
Also, posts encadred to the Indian Telecom Service don't fall under the purview of the Civil Services Exam. You are probably confusing it with the Indian Trade Service (another group discharging critical economic functions).
So kid, do yourself and the whole world a favour by enlightening yourself before spewing vitriol on "these jobs" that probably mean the world to someone. And from the looks of it, you'd fail to make even a clerk's grade in the railways, leave aside the Indian Railway Service (IRS).
Damn! I think your comment just resulted in a 10-pt plunge in the nation's avg IQ! Do you even know what responsibilities entail an IRTS officer? A tyro IRTS officer starts out as an Area Officer/Manager in the railways commands a 1000-strong staff and is responsible for the ops of all trains (goods included) traversing his jurisdiction, coupled with the HR role he/she discharges with the looming threat of militant trade unionism. All this with a retinue of servants at his beck and call and a quaint, cozy bungalow to reside in! This is just one leaf out of a bulging book. Imagine, then, what it takes to run an entire zone, or for that matter, the entire railway ministry. My father's a senior IRTS officer and is currently the DRM of a division. He is responsible for all railway functions in his jurisdiction spanning 2000 km and has about 20k people reporting to him. He is on-duty 24x7 and puts in 12 hours even on a Saturday, when he could be teeing-off with officers from "better" services, who are putting in time as, say one of the CGMs of the State Sheep Wool Development Corporation. And if this is tantamount to a meaningless sinecure, involving someone "signing away their lives", I have bad news for you. Please have yourself tested.
Also, posts encadred to the Indian Telecom Service don't fall under the purview of the Civil Services Exam. You are probably confusing it with the Indian Trade Service (another group discharging critical economic functions).
So kid, do yourself and the whole world a favour by enlightening yourself before spewing vitriol on "these jobs" that probably mean the world to someone. And from the looks of it, you'd fail to make even a clerk's grade in the railways, leave aside the Indian Railway Service (IRS).[/quote]
Hahaha No need to get so defensive about your dad's career choice. In our parents time there were few jobs available other than sarkari jobs. Thats not the case today and after five years in a top notch law school with so many good options available its ridiculous and laughable to join something like 'Indian Railways Traffic Service'. At least the AMSS slave is doing something he gave up 5 years of his life to learn (and getting paid well enough to retire early)
Maybe you are being sarcastic by boasting of an IRTS officer's ability to command 1,000 railwaymen. That's a very poor yardstick in this day and age. The question should be whether he is able to do anything useful in that position, is the job profile an intellectual challenge and finally how good a service it is compared to the IFS and IAS.
The unfortunate truth about central services is that other than the IAS and IFS (where I agree that to an extent one has the power to touch lives), the other services have an extremely mundane work profile, In addition the pay is low and if you're not willing to put in the minimum 16 years that it takes to earn a pension the retiral prospects are bleak (actually even with a pension the retiral scene is very average). Scratch that -- even with the pension retirals are not much. The hierarchy is stifling, protocol suffocating and your whole career can be flushed down the toilet if some low level boss writes a couple of adverse annual review reports.
Evan the so-called "perks" are petty. Having a 'big bungalow' is a myth unless you're posted in a rural area or are super-senior in service (read 35+ years). Even in metros like Delhi secretary level officers from the IAS (which 99% of railway officers will never reach due to the poor treatment they get) do not have bungalows. Even the bungalow-wallas get it for 2-4 years before retirement after which they have to go house-hunting at the age of 60.
On the other hand work if you are a lawyer from a top law school go work as a lawyer at a good firm, slog it out for 7-8 years, talk in person to the top solicitors, the top counsels, become a partner in 10 yrs (which is not too hard) and buy your own bungalow with the money you earn. Get a nice car, maybe buy a second home in a hill station, go for a nice holiday every quarter. Have a high quality of life and retire at 40!
Work profile is another very important consideration. Barring the IFS and IAS none of the other services has a really intellectually challenging profile. Usually their domains are very narrow and specialised and unless you fall in the small minority of those who love their jobs (such as being a tax officer or a railway manager) it can be miserable. Getting out is a big problem as finding a private sector job after losing out 5-8 years of seniority is tough. In general these are "safe" jobs with not much risk of failing.
As far as career progression is concerned these services (including the railway service) have very slow promotions compared to the IAS and IFS which can be very frustrating. As an example, out of the entire railway traffic signal officer cadre only 1 or 2 make it to a secretary-level position (as members of the railway board). The rest stagnate and have to eat crow while their service batchmates from the IFS and IAS get ahead. There's a whole volume of info about this on the internet that you can read this excellent account of the second-class treatment that non-IAS and non-IFS cadres get written by a serving Revenue Service officer http://www.babusofindia.com/2013/02/a-department-4200-irs-officers-ias-boss.html
For all the nonsense you've typed out, I'm certain even your dad wouldn't want you to follow in his footsteps as a Railway Traffic officer (assuming you were all set to graduate with a law degree from a good university).
Thank you for your comment and congratulations on the good show. Who are the other six?
Best wishes,
Prachi
I hope you appreciate that such coverage will make your reports more inclusive and encourage the students who don't manage to make it to the so called national law universities.
I am not sure whether your reporters are aware of the disparity in the Indian society and the fact that those who make it to these good institutes are only a miniscule number of the talented students. I also hope you realize that not all who make it to the coveted services are students of these institutes.
So don't you think it will be best in the interest of all your readers to have a comprehensive coverage when you're giving information about such important events. We already have enough half baked news sources. Your websites addition to that list will be disappointing.
I hope you appreciate that such coverage will make your reports more inclusive and encourage the students who don't manage to make it to the so called national law universities.
I am not sure whether your reporters are aware of the disparity in the Indian society and the fact that those who make it to these good institutes are only a miniscule number of the talented students. I also hope you realize that not all who make it to the coveted services are students of these institutes.
So don't you think it will be best in the interest of all your readers to have a comprehensive coverage when you're giving information about such important events. We already have enough half baked news sources. Your websites addition to that list will be disappointing.[/quote]
While I quite commend Enlightenment's thought, it may be worthwhile to note that this is "Legally India" - a website with a target audience of lawyers, budding aspirants, people who are generally looking for some entertainment and what have you.
As an add-on, it is true that usually the "lucky ones" crack competitive examinations. Having said that, I don't mean to undermine the hard-work and dedication of the candidates mentioned above considering I personally know a few and vouch for their merit and the fact that he/ she very much deserved this achievement. But yes, be it the MCQ in CLAT or the essay in the mains, if you know, you know and most often than not, if you are lucky, it is your day and your paper. In fact, you may just be lucky if you have revised that particular set of notes and those very topics appear in a school examination! Quite naturally, luck follows the hard-working in most cases; in a few that it doesn't: too bad, life's unfair, try harder.
Anyway, kudos to the achievers! Fantastic feat!
And your logic in the second paragraph has no connection with what I had written. Seems like you forgot the old adage that "Fortune favours the bold."
Eds., Please could you update and put up more comprehensive info. May be, the no. of attempts in which the successful candidates cracked the exam, their career paths post law school, in case the IAS was not always on their immediate list of priorities, the coaching institutes they went to (in case they did!) and the like.
Will surely help a lot of other aspirants.
Thanks! And a big congrats to all those who made the cut this year.
hahaha... ya right!!