NUJS 2020 batch sees up to 65 students already placed after Day Zero, with Trilegal making 21 offers

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Friday, 12 April 2019 By Legally India Law schools

NUJS Kolkata’s 2020 graduating batch has seen a stonking so-called Day Zero of recruitments so far, which has seen between 33 to 35 students secure pre-placement offers (PPOs) and at least around 30 students accepted around 40 offers to start in 2020, after recruiters’ campus interviews.

While, in now time-honoured tradition, the NUJS recruitment committee declined to comment or confirm figures, citing policy, we understand from sources that the above numbers are an accurate reflection.

The NUJS 2020 graduating batch has a strength of around 120. The PPOs have skyrocketed since last year’s Day Zero, when there were at least 20 PPOs in the bag by this time, though last year around 84 job offers had been made, resulting in a total of around 60 acceptances.

These figures do not include any training contracts or vacation schemes.

NUJS students saw a huge number of offers made this year by domestic law firms, led by Trilegal, which made a grand total of 21 offers (though we are not sure how many of those were accepted).

Approximate breakdown of the 40-odd Day Zero offers made, below:

Trilegal: 21 offers
Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas: 8 offers
Shardul Amarchand Mangaldas: 2 offers
AZB & Partners: 7 offers
L&L Partners: 2 offers

Accepted offers, including via PPOs include:

Khaitan & Co: 4 accepted offers
TT&A: 1
Indus: 4
Argus: 1
Desai & Diwanji: 2

ICICI Bank is expected to interview on campus on 15 April.

We ran the above figures past the campus recruitment committee, which declined to comment.

Thanks to all NUJS students who (secretly) assisted us with collating these numbers.

Comments

NALSAR RPC 12 Apr 2019, 16:12

+4 -22

Seems impressive. But guess who got the vac schemes?

NUJS RPC 13 Apr 2019, 17:37

+7 -0

Wait and watch :)

V 12 Apr 2019, 16:36

+17 -2

Hi Kian.
Sorry to tell you but your numbers are wrong.
Cheers,
V ( Noojie).

V 12 Apr 2019, 16:39

+11 -0

You're reporting significantly lower than it is.

Advice 12 Apr 2019, 17:08

+5 -1

Friends, once again, please remember that placements are only one measure to rank a law school (be it NIRF or QS). Equal weightage is given to teaching quality and faculty research. Points are also awarded for grants, tie ups with foreign universities etc. Beyond official rankings, a university will be a very demotivating experience for a student if the physical infrastructure is bad, the admin is corrupt, the faculty do not inspire you, there are no opportunities for student exchange, etc etc.

Rankings ? Who cares ? 14 Apr 2019, 03:56

+4 -0

The rankings may be relevant for someone who does not have insight into the industry to make a choice. In this age , everyone can reach independent opinion on each of those parameters. Also , some parameters like research maybe completely irrelevant to some candidates. If it’s jobs that I people want after 5 years , no need to look at the rankings , just go to with the conventional wisdom and stick to NLSIU , NALSAR, NUJS as first pics

Guest 12 Apr 2019, 17:14

+14 -2

Reposting the NIRF salary rankings below. Joint 2nd is already very high and it is enough if this is retained, but reaching 1 will certainly help.

1. NLSIU: 15.2 lakhs
2. NALSAR and NUJS: 15 lakhs (joint 2nd)
4. NLUJ: 14.5 lakhs
5. NLUD: 13.8 lakhs
6. Symbiosis: 9.75 lakhs
7. NLIU: 9.2 lakhs
8 RNGUL: 7.5 lakhs
9. IIT: 7.4 lakhs
10. GNLU: 6 lakhs
11. RMLNLU: 4.8 lakhs
12. ILI: 4.4 lakhs
13. KIIT: 3.9 lakhs
14. Ambedkar: 2.2 lakhs
15. Jamia: 0

spaceboy 12 Apr 2019, 17:16

+7 -1

Sounds impressive, but remember that recruitment will nosedive unless the domicile quota is resisted by the new VC, which means a new one must be appointed ASAP.

NALSAR 13 Apr 2019, 03:49

+2 -1

Well, at least at NALSAR it hasn't. People who got in under the domicile quota are routinely hired in large numbers. In 2019, almost every domicile person who subscribed for placements has been placed, mostly with the big firms (in larger proportion than three general category). Similarly, people who did well in CLAT did not necessarily end up getting more jobs or doing better at academics.

I'll venture a guess and say that domicile reservation may not automatically tank placements. I guess the caveat is that historically people don't sit for placements in the same numbers or proportion as NUJS.

NUJS memer 12 Apr 2019, 17:43

+25 -0

[img]https://i.imgur.com/iyWgqLE.png[/img]

good meme 13 Apr 2019, 03:27

+2 -5

replace did's phot with our faulty's face and you get a more accurate meme. Did does not give damn about NUJS.

Guest 12 Apr 2019, 17:49

+7 -16

NALSAR had 8 foreign offers. Can't see any here.

Fact Check 13 Apr 2019, 18:27

+9 -2

Vacation schemes does not mean offers. It's an internship.

NALSAR has to put them at this stage because they could get only 40 people placed so far.

Their figures are the same as last year's even though this was their first batch of 120 students instead of 80.

Batch increase 80%, placements increase 0%.

Guest 14 Apr 2019, 03:54

+6 -1

Batch goes from 80 to 120, and your maths skills tell you that it is a 80% increase?

It is 50%. Rest of the point remains valid but you suck at math (like most law students).

Fact check 2 15 Apr 2019, 19:37

+0 -0

Fact checking you
Though there has been an increase in batch size,the amount of students that opted for placements is in the mid-60’s.
Clearly placing nearly 50 students(in top 6 or foreign firms) out of 65 odd students who sat for placements at day 0 shows the great recruitment season Nalsar has had.

Legal Reporter 12 Apr 2019, 17:55

+26 -0

It is an iteration of the fact that regardless of how bad the institutional leadership may be, NUJS lives on through its students!

They literally recorded the highest placement across all NLUs without a proper VC and Registrar. I'm told that the 'Acting' VC was on leave the entire month of March and April.

High time students from other NLUs wake up, take a cue and seize control of their Universities instead of sucking up to their 'VC sir' like the NLS SBA.

NALSAR 13 Apr 2019, 03:50

+5 -0

Couldn't agree more, mate. I wish here were more proactive in challenging administrative abuse of power.

Particularly 12 Apr 2019, 17:59

+13 -4

It's time the faculty members in NUJS introspect, think and realise how the students of NUJS have flourished despite any help from their faculty and administration.

All that they're still intended on is running the institution to the ground. If all you can do is make things worse, at least don't stop the students from making the best.

NUJS 2020 13 Apr 2019, 06:35

+7 -0

Fully agree, with the caveat that a rare handful of those still try to help us as much as they can, but are being hindered in even that by faulty et al. That number can and should be much higher though.

Sikha Sen 12 Apr 2019, 18:02

+14 -0

I'm told that the NUJS administration did not bother to even register for NIRF rankings this year. It was the students who took it upon to themselves to get the institution registered after the deadline, compiled the data meticulously and ensured NUJS gets an accurate representation of its potential. Kudos!

NUJS Forever 12 Apr 2019, 18:07

+32 -2

Record breaking placements, 3 admission offers from Harvard and NYU each, 3 from Oxford, 4 from Cambridge and 2 into UPSC. This is besides the insane number of alumni partner promotions.

Could the year get any better for NUJS after all they have gone through!

Guest 12 Apr 2019, 20:31

+2 -0

But for rankings you need other stuff --- for example student exchange with colleges abroad and publications in their journals, rather than just LLM offers from them.

Guest 13 Apr 2019, 06:36

+3 -0

FYI, a considerable number of NUJS students have publications in international journals of great repute including those hosted by Oxford etc. It's just that there's no central repository collating all that info. That's going to change soon though as per SJA plans.

still 13 Apr 2019, 16:59

+0 -0

we need the faculty to publish. thats whats considered by the ranking agencies.

Oxbridge Grad 14 Apr 2019, 07:20

+3 -1

Commendable! However, I would not put cash guzzling NYU at part with Harvard, Oxbridge, and UPSC.

Guest 14 Apr 2019, 07:39

+1 -0

What does UPSC have to do with higher studies?

Oxbridge Grad 14 Apr 2019, 10:47

+4 -1

You need certain mettle to get into Harvard/Yale/Oxbridge/UPSC Do you need to be good to get into NYU, yes, but let's just say NYU plays ball better when money rolls.

Guest 14 Apr 2019, 11:18

+9 -4

UPSC isn't a test of skill, it's a test of your ability to memorise thousands of pages of information and regurgitate. Typical of current trend of higher education in India. The services may be a good way to contribute to the society, but the entrance examination is certainly not a good judge of ability or quality.

Oxbridge Grad 16 Apr 2019, 09:06

+3 -0

Agreed, UPSC is quite one dimensional in many aspects. However, so are LLM admissions to a large extent. Academic excellence meant memorising 100s of case law before the exam, at least at my law school it meant the same. While SoP does leave an option for one to make a case beyond academia, but most of the time it is a combination of the law review, moot, and some random society.

Guest 14 Apr 2019, 09:54

+4 -4

You've got to be joking! It's the UK colleges that are desperate for cash and lower standards. The US law schools are far superior in research, infrastructure and faculty accomplishments. Beyond Harvard and Yale, the likes of NYU, Duke, Chicago, Berkeley and Northwestern are superior to Oxbridge.

Oxbridge Grad 14 Apr 2019, 10:55

+5 -1

Better PR doesn't equate to better or superior research.

Guest 12 Apr 2019, 18:11

+15 -0

Congratulations NUJS for this brilliant streak!

(Though I don't understand why their RCC refuses to disclose the figures. They have been recording more placements than NLS and NALSAR combined since the last two years.)

NALSAR 13 Apr 2019, 03:53

+3 -0

That's why they don't do it. So recruiters for the remaining pool don't find out that most of the class is placed.

Arvind Kejri 12 Apr 2019, 18:44

+6 -1

Dear Momta Didi,
I won't ask for proof from NUJS students anymore. Now i am convinced that NUJS should be ranked 3rd. Therefore, I request NLU-D trolls to keep calm and wait for Batch of 2019 official recruitment figure.

Regards,
Orvind

Guest 12 Apr 2019, 19:27

+1 -5

But what about the TCs/vac schemes??? Those are the real blockbuster offers. Where there ZERO??? That would be shocking!

Guest 13 Apr 2019, 06:37

+2 -0

No, there are such offers. But they are being kept quiet because domestic firms don't like to hear that.

Guest 12 Apr 2019, 19:28

+4 -0

Why is there STILL no VC appointment? How can Taluk hold the chair for over a year? A protest to kick him out PIB-style must happen NOW!

Guest 12 Apr 2019, 19:52

+6 -0

Lawn needs fresh grass, building needs fresh paint, college needs fresh VC.

Guest 12 Apr 2019, 20:28

+19 -1

[img][img]https://i.imgur.com/7KMbASo.png[/img][/img]

Guest 12 Apr 2019, 20:38

+8 -1

Placement done. Now get off your ass and protest. #NationaliseNLUs #JointNLUProtest

Sheyal 12 Apr 2019, 22:20

+10 -20

Any placement statistic where a firm like Trilegal is responsible for 30% of the recruitment can never be called good news. In the end SAM and AZB recruited many more people from NALSAR / NLS than WBNUJS (which seems to be a backup to fill the empty seats).

wrong 13 Apr 2019, 03:34

+19 -8

trilegal is one of the youngest, most professionally run firms. Unline CAM and other family establishments, they actually give you an opportunity to work hard and rise. Congratulations to NUJS students who got into trilegal. you will all go far in life.

? 15 Apr 2019, 04:22

+0 -2

Clearly you've never seen the inside of Trilegal. Professionally run, oh my.

Guest 13 Apr 2019, 07:54

+9 -0

Dude, AZB had recruited 20 students from NUJS last year. This year too including PPOs the number goes into double digits. I get your frustration, but at least don't let it degenerate into delusion.

NUJS 13 Apr 2019, 17:41

+2 -0

Hi, but then how do you respond to the fact that AZB gave 20 offers to NUJS last year? Also, Trilegal is part of the big six firms... where have you been living?

Mia 13 Apr 2019, 00:49

+1 -1

In another good news, TRC has joined CCI as Deputy Director (Law) on deputation. Expect more funding for moots. Yay. But what about classes?

Guest 13 Apr 2019, 06:39

+2 -0

Fake news. She has not. Show a single piece of official document that says otherwise. I doubt she has even said that out loud.

Momta 13 Apr 2019, 00:59

+3 -0

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/something-serious-on-in-bengal-supreme-court/article26823618.ece?homepage=true

And something is definitely rotten in NUJS - Taluk & Sen, Faulty, Overpaid DEOs

Guest 13 Apr 2019, 09:50

+9 -2

I'll tell you what NUJS needs: a good website to highlight its achievements and raise the Perception parameter score in NIRF. That alone will take it to #2 in the rankings. After that, raise the research Parameter score and it can genuinely aim for the top spot.

agreed but 13 Apr 2019, 16:54

+2 -1

raising the research parameter score is next to impossible. they have rather particulars with competition law book review kind of scholarship. most of the faulty there are a bunch of useless chaps, no good for any job. the half decent ones leave within a few years.

Guest 13 Apr 2019, 18:24

+2 -1

There are also people there who have published on international journals of repute including SCOPUS ranked ones and books published by OUP etc. Just because students like to cosy up to rather particular for easy grades doesn't mean there aren't other good people in. And good ones also leave because students realise they would make them to do actual work and hence rebel against them.

really 14 Apr 2019, 01:41

+1 -0

pray sir/madam, please tell us who are these persons? Please tell us the titles or provide the references. Or tell me what sort of research has been done in the past few years.

In the past we had such faculty (shamnad, sudhir, prabhash, preetam etc.) - they have all left. Now we have faulty and a handful of good teachers who are constantly on the look out for an opportunity to move out. its not just the students to be blamed for this- what has the admin done to make them stay?? We dont have even a single professor who has published anything worth mentioning anywhere. Almost all out them publish in the journals run by rather particular. Infact, show me one issue of those journals without at least one article from our faulty.

NUJS survives almost entirely on student efforts (and a small number of faculty who supports them). As someone pointed out earlier- this stands as a testimony to their talent, persistence and efforts. If they had some better admin support and a few more good faculty members (and not more of faulty) NUJS can very well climb to the top.

Guest 14 Apr 2019, 05:30

+4 -1

Don't disagree with you regarding the admin. Re the references, do your research and you will find it. At least one of the professors has multiple international publications and another has book published by Springer. Several of the Assistant Professors have publications in OUP, journals hosted by Columbia Law School, EPW etc. Don't be lazy and look beyond Rather Particular's negative influence. I don't disagree that plenty more needs to be done though and that with a good admin and more good teachers, there is no limit to what the students can achieve. And it is absolutely correct that institutionally, what is achieved by NUJS is all because of the students.

Intervenor 14 Apr 2019, 06:17

+3 -1

There is a simple solution to this problem:

1. Invite good profs from other law schools in India, especially those publishing a lot, for guest lectures and short courses.

2. The ones likely to come are those who are alumni, or those who have family in Kolkata, or those who used to teach at NUJS and have goodwill towards the place.

3. In addition to teaching, propose an arrangement where NUJS students can jointly author publications with them, or some other type of arrangement where NUJS can share credit for research.

The NIRF research score was shockingly low. Even a minor increase can push NUJS to #2 overall.

Guest 14 Apr 2019, 06:55

+3 -1

When good people come from outside, students have to be promised extra attendance just to turn up in acceptable numbers. Why should the top faculty from other colleges use NUJS students to do research for them when they can use their own students? The sad truth is also a lack of reliability of students which prevents people in general to trust them with research or similar work, though exceptions are there. That's a problem across all NLUs, but the lack of institutional accountability at NUJS has further worsened the scene. There's no dearth of talent among students, just one of sincerity, responsibility etc. Can't blame them entirely, there are very few role models there before them among faculty or admin exhibiting such features.

Guest 14 Apr 2019, 06:58

+1 -0

Research score was especially low because students who prepared the report has to rely on useless annual reports prepared by incompetent admin staff for the data. They couldn't be expected to go to individual faculty and ask for their research etc. Most faculty don't even bother to submit records these days given the anarchy there.

but then 14 Apr 2019, 09:57

+0 -0

research score was low because of low scores on faulty publications - and this is something that NIRF independently checks and not based on what is submitted.

sorry 14 Apr 2019, 09:55

+0 -0

I can see that we are broadly in agreement about many things and please do not misunderstand me that I intend to pick a fight with you. But then, I have to make this point. I did my search and I cannot see much of quality publications by NUJS professors. the only ones I could spot are some articles by Dr. S. Bhat. The others were by people who no longer work there. There are of course publications by students.

What I mean to point out again is the lack of faculty publications (except in some rather particular kind of journals) and overlooking that is not easy.

have a re look 16 Apr 2019, 06:03

+1 -0

Dear brother, kindly have a re look on the details of NUJS faculties and professors. There are professors who have published books from Oxford, Lexis Nexis, Sage and such other international publishers and well members of international organizations and international fellowships and invitations. just check their profiles on the websites and also else where if possible, kindly do not underplay NUJS professors. I agree those who left NUJS are very good researchers but you cannot ignore those who are good too present in the university

damn funny 16 Apr 2019, 08:12

+0 -2

damn funny that there is a repeated claims about professors who have publications , but no one can name them. Please name and provide the title or citation of these books and articles.

And dont give me the response that you will find them if you look for them. I looked and I saw nothing much. There are Journal Articles by S. Bhat and an OUP book by Dr. Srinivasulu (someone below pointed this out - thank you to him/her). Im not counting lexis nexis into this - they are not much of a great academic publisher (they publish works aimed at practitioners or they publish guide books).

So stop beating around the bush and state the specifics.

Guest 16 Apr 2019, 09:24

+2 -0

You make an official request stating your name and designation and a copy of the same will be provided to you. Why are you that scared of doing it in your own name? It just reflects your shoddy research skills that you can't find things online. For instance, you missed out on Prof. Anirban Mazumder's Database Law book published by Springer, which is the only book on that subject in India at present. There can be many more instances cited, but nobody owes it to you to do your research for you. As for your critique of Lexis, how many books have you written that's been published by them or anybody better?

Guest 16 Apr 2019, 09:30

+2 -0

FYI, Lexis has published DD Basu's books on Constitutional Law and Comparative Constitutional Law and ML Tannan's definitive works on Banking Law. The fact that you are unaware of these and claim they don't publish academic works is probably indicative of the reason why you fail to unearth publications in course of your research. TLDR, your research skills need to be improved.

Guest 2 16 Apr 2019, 06:07

+1 -0

At NUJS, infact, there are professors who are having multiple international publications ranging from Oxford, Springier, LexisNexis to American, European, Asian Journals. Besides, there are professors who have done their work silently with commendable achievements including international fellowships and membership in international organizations. Please look beyond what is generally mentioned else where

name them 16 Apr 2019, 08:15

+0 -2

please name them!! Its so funny that people repeat how there are multiple professors, but cant name them. Since you put it on the table, please state the international fellowships and membership in international organisations that the professors have.

So far as I understand, NUJS faculty sucks big time. The place has a name only because of the brilliant students and their hard work, despite these odds.

Guest 16 Apr 2019, 09:53

+1 -0

@Name them: I've got some sad news for you, Bro. That's the scene in all NLUs. They are famous because of their students. Not their teachers. If you say that there are amazing teachers elsewhere and they still produce students who are in general more or less of the same calibre as NUJS students, then those teachers can't possibly be all that good, no?

OUP 16 Apr 2019, 06:11

+0 -0

To mention at least one as you asked, have a look at the book titled "Law relating to Biotechnology" published by Oxford University Press and also "law relating to intellectual property" published from LexisNexis authored by one of NUJS professors and check his profile on NUJS website and also on linkedin for details about his academic and research work

the only one 16 Apr 2019, 08:13

+0 -3

Thank you. So theres one - where are the "multiple" faculty members??

Guest 16 Apr 2019, 09:47

+6 -0

Human Rights and Development and Law relating to IP both written by Prof. Sreenivasulu and published by Penguin Partridge. Database Law by Prof. Anirban Mazumder published by Springer. Cartel Regulation by Prof. Lovely Dasgupta published by Cambridge University Press. A book on Sports Law in India by Prof. Dasgupta and Prof. Shameek Sen published by Sage. I found this by Google search in about 2-3 minutes. I'm not even going into book chapters or journal papers. You should brush up your research skills, man.

ha ha 22 Apr 2019, 02:12

+1 -2

partridge is a self-publication platform - which means you pay them and they will publish. The academic standards of the place are self-evident now.

Guest 22 Apr 2019, 10:40

+2 -2

So are CUP, SAGE and Springer I'm sure. We bow to your superior academic scholarship and wisdom.

Guest 22 Apr 2019, 10:53

+4 -0

Actually, Penguins-Partridge does mainly serve as a self-publishing platform as ha ha has mentioned. It was also launched as one. However, over the last few years, it has also done independent publishing on its own. I have no clue though whether the publications referred to here earlier are self-publications or otherwise. However, I have read Prof. Mazumdar's book on database law. That's decent enough on the subject.

Guest 14 Apr 2019, 03:57

+0 -0

NIRF doesn't look at the website! There is a set form that the institute has to fill in and send.

Sceptic 13 Apr 2019, 10:02

+5 -18

These placements are not that great. Neither are the Harvard-Oxford offers (even Jindal and Symbi students make it without scholarship). We can see that NUJS ranks well below NLSIU, NLUD and NALSAR if you look at macro level criteria (infrastructure, corporate funding and chairs, mooting etc).

I will give you an example: Afghanistan's Rashid Khan may be a better bowler than someone like Umesh Yadav. But India will still thrash Afghanistan in any match.

Guest 13 Apr 2019, 11:43

+13 -1

Whatever floats your boat, bro. Know this though, both Rashid and Umesh can get your wicket every over. Chew that over your daily dose of macro-level perception.

Guest 13 Apr 2019, 11:49

+14 -2

NALSAR's infrastructure hundreds of km away from civilisation is still unable to assure good young faculty to go down there because they are uncertain about what to do in medical emergencies. NLUD's infra is in Delhi, where parents from other states still hesitate to send their girls to and given the frequent instances of sexual harassment and complaints within the campus, perhaps rightly too. Every place has its problems. As for scholarships, someone from NUJS has just won the Gates Cambridge scholarship. Google it if you haven't heard the name. There have been several Rhodes scholars too, though NLSIU definitely leads on that front. You just seem a frustrated sort who frequent LI comments section spitting on other people's achievements. Get yourself some therapy.

2016 14 Apr 2019, 03:24

+2 -0

Yeah bro JeeZ. Delhi crime is next level that is why no nujs grad has ever accepted a firm job in Delhi.

Guest 14 Apr 2019, 05:24

+0 -0

@2016: Great logical skills, Bro, if that's the takeaway you got from 24.2.

Guest 13 Apr 2019, 10:04

+1 -0

PIB declined offers from many reputed foreign universities for student exchange programmes. Taimur has not even made the effort to acknowledge recent emails from other universities. I wonder what the SJA is going to do about this.

Guest 13 Apr 2019, 11:44

+1 -1

Go on vacation. As soon as their exams are over.

Guest 13 Apr 2019, 12:43

+1 -0

Please update the NUJS website with all this info. It is only there on an unofficial site and Facebook group.

Best placements! 13 Apr 2019, 13:27

+9 -1

NUJS clearly has had the BEST placements in the country since the last 3 years (including this) now. Better than NLSIU. Better than NALSAR. NLUD doesn't even hold a candle.

The reason? NUJS' committees and societies which are managed by the students teach them the ropes of 'getting things done' from a very young age.

Another 'related' reason? The student body at NUJS is strong and backed by liberal provisions in the constitution.

Guest 13 Apr 2019, 13:37

+2 -0

Any news about the new VC? When will the announcement come? Who are shortlisted?

Guest 13 Apr 2019, 13:57

+1 -0

Not yet. Expected sometime next week. Ini, Minnie, Miny and Moe.

W 13 Apr 2019, 16:47

+2 -0

The timing is suspicious since it coincides with holidays. It better be the ex-Nalsar/IIT prof and not one of the two TMC chelas being rumoured. These people should know that you don't need to be on campus to submit a student-alumni resolution rejecting the new VC (like CNLU did) or to file a PIL seeking that a fresh selection meeting takes place with the new Cal HC CJ.

Guest 13 Apr 2019, 17:18

+2 -0

Nothing suspicious about it. It's being deliberately done that way. The powers-that-be have made it clear they don't care about any student demand regarding the new VC. Considering the students have shown no protest over the last year, one can see why the authorities would think like that. I can give you a guarantee that no student-alumni petition is going see light of the day.

july 13 Apr 2019, 16:55

+2 -0

it will be announced only after elections.

Guest 13 Apr 2019, 17:00

+4 -3

Kian, we desperately need a database (not a ranking) which compares all NLU graduates, who have graduated post 2014, on the following:

1. Placements and current employment status
2. UPSC performance
3. Judicial service exam performance
4. AOR exam
5. LLM/PhD admissions and scholarships
6. Selection for IIMs
7. Prestigious scholarships: Rhodes, Gates, Chevening, Fulbright, DAAD etc

This will help someone which NLU in the best based on current data (as opposed to past legacy). We can determine whether NALSAR, NUJS and NLUD are waaaay behind NLSIU (which CLAT preferences suggest), or at par.

Guest 13 Apr 2019, 18:25

+10 -1

Who's the we? Who needs it exactly? Apart from pandering to vanity and already mountain sized ego of some NLU students, it does no good to anybody else.

Guest 13 Apr 2019, 21:58

+0 -0

Why are details of most faculty members not available on the site? Whey are there no details of research publications? WTF is this??

Guest 14 Apr 2019, 09:51

+3 -0

Here is a suggestion: the SJA can make a 20 page brochure about the college, with 4-6 pages profiling the star graduates of the college in different areas + info about scholarships awarded, publications etc + profiles of the profs who are good. This will be sufficient for clueless law aspirants guided by hearsay and uninformed coaching centres.

NUJS Family 14 Apr 2019, 13:00

+10 -0

Taluk Uncle wants a 2 year term. Trinamul Aunty wants an extension. Particular Chacha wants to be Registrar. BJP Bhabhi, Sulu Dada and Itihas Bhaiya want to be Deans. Mysore Mamus want a promotion.

Guest 14 Apr 2019, 13:43

+11 -1

PA Chachi wants to control VC. Competitive Didi doesn't want to do anything at all.

Guest 15 Apr 2019, 00:25

+1 -0

Heard from a top source: The VC appointment is deadlocked coz Mamata's man on the panel is insisting on a chela, but the Chancellor has asked for a relook.

Guest 15 Apr 2019, 14:36

+0 -2

Has NLUJ has squashed NUJS in placements?

Guest 15 Apr 2019, 15:49

+5 -0

Nobody has squashed or tennised anybody pal. Both NLUs have had good placements, courtesy their students and RPC. Why don't you go and join the party and let all the negativity take a hike for a change?

Guest 15 Apr 2019, 17:25

+0 -0

Pls reveal how many foreign offers.

Guest 15 Apr 2019, 17:36

+1 -0

You people must understand that recruitment offers are not enough to claim top 3 NLU status. You need research publications. Below is a list of people who left NUJS under PIB. All are good researchers and would have increased the NIRF research parameter. NUJS needs a set of replacements who are as good as them, or poach them back by giving them fast-track promotions to professor (which PIB did for Shamnad, Sudhir and Manoj Sinha)

1. Sudhir Krishnaswamy (Azim Premji, soon NLSIU VC)
2. Shamnad Basheer
3. Vishwas Devaiah (JGLS)
4. Pritam Baruah (JGLS)
5. Prabhash Ranjan (NLUJ, then South Asian University)
6. Chinmayi Arun (NLUD)
7. Daniel Matthew (NLUD)
8. Manoj SInha (ILI)

Guest 15 Apr 2019, 17:51

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Apart from Chinmayi and Daniel, both of whom are rather young to have substantial research publications anyway, the rest haven't managed to stay at any other NLU either, strangely. Does this mean NLUs are nowadays unable to retain good researchers as faculty? Should be an interesting study. Mind you, barring a rare few, none of the top NLUs have faculty well-known for research either, no matter how much people try to claim to the contrary.

good point 16 Apr 2019, 01:55

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Barring perhaps NLUD, most NLUs have lagged behind in research. The reasons for this are several, especially the emphasis on undergraduate teaching - which takes away a lot of time from the hands of faculty.

h@sh 15 Apr 2019, 19:07

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If your yardstick is seniority, then even Sudhir and Shamnad have not conducted ground-breaking research. Shamnad's contribution in IP has been more that of an activist and he has not published even one authored book. As for Sudhir, he is very knowledgable and speaks well, but his bio on the APU website shows just one authored book and articles in newspapers (not journals).

On the other hand, Prabhash Ranjan, despite being only Assistant Professor rank, has published in a whole bunch of international journals.

On could argue about quality over quantity, but a ranking like NIRF needs to be objective. Thus, the best way to rank research is just go by the number of publications is a pre-determined list of journals (or simply journals listed in JSTOR, Westlaw and HeinOnline) plus a list of top publishers.

Guest 16 Apr 2019, 01:24

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Shamnad does have at least one authored book to his name. His doctoral thesis from Oxford.

Guest 16 Apr 2019, 04:31

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Prabhash is now a full-time professor at SAU. So is Vishwas at JGLS.

Guest 15 Apr 2019, 22:37

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Let me explain why NUJS placements rank behind NLSIU, NALSAR, NLUD and NLUJ. In the Olympics a team winning 4 golds and 2 silvers ranks higher than a team winning 0 golds, 4 silvers and 2 bronzes. Similarly, vacation schemes should be treated as golds, Big 7 Indian firms as silvers and other firms as bronzes. So NUJS drops in the ranks because quality matters more than quantity.

Guest 16 Apr 2019, 06:09

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You are making several assumptions, such as that foreign firms are a better judge of quality during interviews (remember that vacation schemes are given out even without having seen the student at work), that a good young law graduate will always prefer a foreign firm placement over an Indian one (this used to be the case pre-2012, but no longer always so because of UK tax regime etc., which is why several students return to India after the TC) and most importantly, that NUJS hasn't scored any VS for 2020 Batch (remember, Kian got this info from his personal contacts and not an official CRC rep., which means it is incomplete still).
Further, do remember that a university's purpose is to cater to all its students and not only the best ones. Going by your logic, if a student from GLC Mumbai manages to score a VS (which has happened in the past at least once), then that alone is enough to put GLC ahead of most NLUs in terms of placement. That is simply not logical. That's why your Olympic analogy was not an apt one.

Another Guest 16 Apr 2019, 10:36

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FYI Felicitation Ceremony of Olympics doesn't starts until match official sends the final results.

NUJS CRC will release Batch of 2019 recruitment figure soon. Then you could start preparing the medal tally for all the NLU's.

NUJS 2019 16 Apr 2019, 08:16

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Can't speak for faculty research or publications myself, since I don't have the needed info. But speaking as someone who's gonna graduate from this place, I can vouch for the teaching I've got in contracts, consti, corp, labour and IP at least. Good people all and have truly made me interested in those subjects, which is what having a good teacher can do. Not been taught by teachers from other law schools though, so can't do any comparison. But if these people keep staying here and teaching these subs, future students can expect to get solid basics at the very least.

R1 16 Apr 2019, 13:32

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Friends, here is the CLAT preference advised by Rajneesh Singh Sir on his Facebook page. It seems to follow NIRF except for HNLU getting rank 7. Sir has also put CNLU above NUALS and given "Excellent" rating to AMU. Kindly share the list given by your coaching centre also for everyones benefit. Thanks.

1. NLSIU
2. NALSAR
3. NUJS
4.NLUJ
5. NLIU
6. GNLU
7. HNLU
8. RGNUL
9. RMLNLU
10. NLUO
11. MNLU- M
12. CNLU
13. NUALS
14. NUSRL
15 NLUJA (Assam)

https://www.facebook.com/RSCMforCLAT/

Guest 16 Apr 2019, 14:04

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If perception includes media coverage and fame, then for 2018-19 at least, NUJS should rank way over other NLUs on account of their Harry Potter course. I had to google the name once and got hit with dozens of global stories about it, ranging from the BBC to Guardian and what not. Now that's something the faculty there should probably get at least part of the credit for.
Disclaimer: Not from NUJS. Not even a fan of JK Rowling. Not even sure what the course is all about.

Guest 16 Apr 2019, 15:12

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Here is visual evidence that Taluk skipped key CLAT meeting. This is bad news.

https://barandbench.com/clat-2019-postponed-to-may-26-in-view-of-lok-sabha-elections/

Guest 16 Apr 2019, 15:32

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He's not been to any NLU meetings throughout his tenure. This is nothing new.

Guest 16 Apr 2019, 17:48

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Yet he stretched his tenure to over a year and now wants to stick around till December.

Guest 17 Apr 2019, 08:49

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Students want to wait for 7 years before they protest. Like they did for PIB.

Useless SJA 17 Apr 2019, 13:15

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Well said! He will still be around in 2025, when the student will launch a 12-hour protest ---- and then proudly boast when he resigns and claim a victory.

because 18 Apr 2019, 01:48

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and thats because the regime wants to take NUJS out of CLAT and make the admissions based on Board marks.

Guest 18 Apr 2019, 09:48

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Can't understand why the students are not protesting. It's very clear that the delay in appointing the VC, in violation fo instructions from the CJI, is deliberate so that the good candidates get impatient and join GNLU or another NLU, while the pro-TMC stooges move up the preference list.

Guest 18 Apr 2019, 10:16

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Because students don't care? They are only happy to score inflated grades, additional attendance, no year back policy and day zero jobs. Which they are entitled be, of course.

Guest 18 Apr 2019, 12:04

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NLUJ and GNLU have scored more training contracts than NUJS. The farce of inflated grades is being realised by the outside world. Many firms are also giving importance to the type of electives offered and quality of faculty. I hope alarm bells are ringing.

Guest 18 Apr 2019, 13:38

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A. NUJS hasn't released its figures yet. You are relying on Kian's contacts or lack thereof in this case. If you want to compare, please do so with 2019 batch recruitment figures.
B. Didn't know firms these days are looking into elective natures and faculty CV along with students'? Which firms will these be and when did their HRs started doing this from?
That said, I agree with the inflated grade problem, but that's there in most NLUs these days. Even Kian's incomplete figures clearly say in terms of Day Zero, far more students got placed from NUJS than from anywhere else. Counter that with numbers. TCs can't be used as a comparison metric for a batch since only 5% of a batch apply for and 1% get those.

Guest 18 Apr 2019, 13:59

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NLUJ and GNLU have scored one TC each. NUJS hasn't released its figures yet. Takes a genius like you to do the comparison.

Visa L. 18 Apr 2019, 13:45

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Kian, this is an interesting figure that you may use. While at one time, majority batch toppers from law schools used to at least apply for vacation schemes, only 3 out of the top 10 from NUJS 2020 batch applied this year. At least one has scored it too that I am aware of. But it reveals an interesting picture in terms of foreign firms not being on the first order of priority, though not sure why. Perhaps the stifling UK tax regime and Brexit related issues are having their toll, perhaps something else. If you are considering overall number of students who sat for placements to contextualise Day Zero offer numbers, then you should definitely try to get the number of foreign firm applicants from each NLU for Vac Schemes. May reveal some interesting stuff.

Guest 19 Apr 2019, 00:09

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Zero TCs for NUJS = zero gold medals = #6 in the medals tally.

Guest 19 Apr 2019, 04:47

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Who's giving away the medals? You? Also, read that as "Zero TCs for NUJS that Kian could ferret out". It's strange that Kian spends this much time trying to find out Day Zero results, but loses steam when it comes to publishing the overall batch placement once a batch graduates. I wonder why that is. Take the 2019 batch for example. Why not publish a full report for all law schools and see how the placement scene has been? I doubt any RPC will withhold info for that batch now. And if it does, that in itself will be saying a lot.

Guest 19 Apr 2019, 16:27

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Why is NUJS not doing thing like NALSAR?

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/more-foreign-law-cos-snap-up-nalsar-grads/articleshow/68947134.cms

Guest 20 Apr 2019, 00:24

+3 -1

Do what? Feed misleading info to the media of showing 3 actual jobs as 8? No thanks, NALSAR can have such dubious honours. It tried to pull off similar stunts with NIRF data last year too and got red-faced when caught.

Guest 20 Apr 2019, 07:32

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Last time, Sid Chauhan had the decency to at least come down here and admit that it was a lapse of the admin machinery during NIRF. This time around, they will say they have written 3 only, but Toi couldn't read their handwriting and thought it's 8 instead.

Guest 20 Apr 2019, 12:09

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Lost in jungle (rather than in translation) this time around. LOL! One wonders why NALSAR became so desperate as to give a TOI bite when TC and VS are nothing new to the place for more than a decade and a half now! It's like CLAT Committee saying that a CLAT fiasco has suddenly become newsworthy. It's commonplace, man!

Guest 20 Apr 2019, 22:14

+1 -0

The Gogoi scandal now means the VC appointment will get delayed further. Taluk stays on till December, the top applicant to NUJS heads to another NLU, and in January the TMC chela formally takes over. Well done SJA!

Guest 27 Apr 2019, 10:50

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A Bengali newspaper has reported on the VC appointment. Translation: The state forwarded the name of Prof SS Chatterji and it is expected to be confirmed after the election. A new campus will also be set up in Asansol.

Guest 27 Apr 2019, 12:39

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Which newspaper? Whatsapp forward daily?

Guest 27 Apr 2019, 17:50

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I am the person who saw the newspaper report. The newspaper is called Ganashakti.
http://bangla.ganashakti.co.in

I was waiting at a furniture shop for a friend. I saw a loose page on a bench and read it from a distance.. There was a small report in the side, just 3-4 lines. I do not know the date, but it could have been a bit old. I did not take the page, it was a dirty scrap page. I am from West Bengal but not NUJS, but I am appearing for LLM CLAT.

I cannot remember now if it said state has proposed the name for Asansol campus of NUJS or Kolkata campus.

Guest 28 Apr 2019, 03:21

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That paper is a Left mouthpiece that has rarely cared about actual accuracy of reports. In the present case, it very well may be true, but then again, it equally well may not be. There's no indication of an Asansol campus being considered by the EC yet, though I won't be surprised if that happens soon given the student inaction. What students of RGNUL, NUSRL etc. did actually takes guts, which tier one NLU students sorely lack.

Ambareesh 28 Apr 2019, 18:39

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Shamnad Basheer is going to be the next VC of NUJS!

Guest 28 Apr 2019, 19:21

+1 -0

Ghanta!

Ghantadaar 29 Apr 2019, 06:41

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Kian, I've decided to comment 'Ghanta' as a reply to every single piece of comment trying to spread fake news here from now on. Hope you won't object or censor those. I promise that I will only do it if I've personal knowledge of the news being fake.

kianganz 29 Apr 2019, 06:46

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Fair enough, we thank you for your service! ;)

Guest 29 Apr 2019, 07:29

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The whole country is watching with horror at the murderous fascist tactics being employed by Hitler Didi to rig elections. This power hungry monster wants to control anything and everything, which is why she is refusing to appoint the new VC of NUJS and making Taluk continue.

Guest 29 Apr 2019, 13:10

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It's mostly her minions, not her. NUJS isn't important enough to be on her radar. The faculty factions engaged in petty politics and the students who are completely apathetic to their own welfare compound problems further.

Guest 30 Apr 2019, 05:23

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NKC is the new VC! Both the government and the HC feel that he is the least harmful of available options and can best accommodate all the vested interests. The decision has been taken and will be announced during the next EC meeting in mid-May right after elections.

kianganz 30 Apr 2019, 05:29

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Ghanta?

Ghantadaar 30 Apr 2019, 05:59

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Not sure, Kian. I have heard rumours to such effect too, but couldn't get anything confirmed yet. I told you before that I would only do this when I'm certain that the news is a fake one, not otherwise. Can't dilute the sonic boom of the Ghanta!

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