NUJS Day Zero: 41 jobs for 2012 grads from foreign, domestic recruiters

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Exclusive: At least 41 final year NUJS Kolkata students in a 2012 graduating batch of around 95 have secured office-based jobs, including three training contracts abroad and numerous offers from Amarchand, Trilegal, Luthra and AZB and Bharucha.

Law firms and recruiters first began visiting NUJS campus in late June as part of the Campus Recruitment Committee (CRC) while others had made pre-placement offers (PPOs) to students.

Three students were offered training contracts with foreign law firms Linklaters and CMS Cameron McKenna and one other training contract offer was still expected, said members of the CRC.

As in the 2011 graduating batch at NUJS, this year too saw Amarchand Mangaldas leading the recruiter tally hiring 10 law graduates from the college.

Other law firms like Trilegal (7), Luthra & Luthra (6) AZB & Partners (3) and J Sagar Associates (JSA) (2) also hired multiple students from NUJS (see table).

In-house legal giant ICICI Bank hired three students while non-governmental research organisation PRS Legislative Research also recruited one student.

CRC student coordinator Kumar Ashutosh commented: “Though we were approached by law firms to conduct day zero recruitments earlier we made a conscious decision to delay the recruitment process until June-end so as to not affect students’ internships.”

“We are pleased with the recruitments made so far as recruiters have hired students having a diverse academic record and [recruiters] have not necessarily hired students on the basis of their grades.”

CRC coordinator Ankit Thakur added that the CRC had “evolved a comprehensive strategy” and was on track to place the maximum number of students this year.

In April of this year 29 students each at NLSIU Bangalore and Nalsar Hyderabad secured job offers to start in 2012.

Name of recruiterNumber of 2012 batch NUJS students recruited
Amarachand Mangaldas10 (of which 2 were PPOs)
Trilegal7 (all PPOs)
Luthra & Luthra6 (all PPOs)
AZB & Partners3
Bharucha & Partners3
ICICI Bank3
J Sagar Associates (JSA)2
Tuli & Co1
Economic Laws Practice (ELP)1
PRS Legislative Research1
Majmudar & Co1
CMS Cameron McKenna (TC)2
Linklaters (TC)1

Comments

kolkata rockz..!!! 21 Jul 2011, 09:40
+1 -0
way to go NUJS .. thsi tyme we will get 100% placement .. cheers.!!
BS 21 Jul 2011, 18:01
+13 -1
"We are pleased with the recruitments made so far as recruiters have hired students having a diverse academic record and [recruiters] have not necessarily hired students on the basis of their grades"

Stop beating around the bush. If after 13 recruiters your top rankers (actual ranks or "RCC ranks") are still left, it probably means that they stink. Did they not apply for the same 28 campus jobs after they failed to get the 13 PPOs you're claiming?

"the CRC had 'evolved a comprehensive strategy'.."

That does not even make any sense. There's nothing path breaking which is being done here with the 'day zero' concept or in sending applications to the recruiters which recruit from most good campuses every year. Chances are, the recruiters would themselves be approaching these committees.

Besides, if I'm not mistaken, the NUJS CRC is just blindly following the system which NLS / NALSAR implemented earlier this year which I read about in one of the comments.

LI - From what I understand, ELP doesn't usually visit campuses (or they weren't the regular visitors in my time). An offer from a Legislative Research organization on campus is quite a remarkable feat to my mind because it's more common to see students join law firms first and then look at policy work and almost no organizations offering policy experience visited campuses. There I commend the CRC. I think LI should focus on more such stories and encourage students from all law universities in the process.

Tuli is not a job worth boasting about, so I won't bother going into that. (It's not a job students from top colleges compete for.)

Wasn't Khaitan & Co also visiting campuses early this year after their stupendous salary hike in the year before?
nailer 21 Jul 2011, 19:09
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Sour grapes, Mr/Ms. BS?

PRS did not visit campus and does fantastic work. ELP does the best trade law work in India and Tuli is the leading insurance law firm. Its all about what a student wishes to pursue. You probably dont have the same freedom in the rubbish college you belong to.

You have nothing but your ignorance to blame for such comments. Not everything is about an AMSS.
hammered 21 Jul 2011, 19:28
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[quote name="nailer"]Sour grapes, Mr/Ms. BS?

PRS did not visit campus and does fantastic work. ELP does the best trade law work in India and Tuli is the leading insurance law firm. Its all about what a student wishes to pursue. You probably dont have the same freedom in the rubbish college you belong to.

You have nothing but your ignorance to blame for such comments. Not everything is about an AMSS.[/quote]


Are you blind or just stupid?

Mr/Ms BS said "PRS.. remarkable feat... There I commend the CRC"..

"ELP doesn't usually visit campuses... IN MY TIME"

PS - you must be psychic to know that BS is from AMSS considering he didn't mention it.. the bias makes one think - Sour grapes, Mr Nailer?

PPS - so you can't comprehend plain English, and you didn't address any of his points. some funny 'nailer' you are.
day zero concept 22 Jul 2011, 05:22
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[quote name="BS"]"Besides, if I'm not mistaken, the NUJS CRC is just blindly following the system which NLS / NALSAR implemented earlier this year which I read about in one of the comments.[/quote]

After the 'rolling recruitment' process implemented by NUJS in the years before, NUJS was the first to host more than just 2 firms on campus on the same day in the last couple of years. Great, successful experiment, which paid off last year (reported on LI and other websites too). Believe me, coordinating and keeping all firms equally interested requires strong organization. But, I don't think hosting 6 firms on the same day is a good idea for any college.
jacky 23 Jul 2011, 11:55
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Khaitan was not invited because they went back on their word with previous recruits. the batch protested and refrained from a firm that cannot make commitments. [...]
? 23 Jul 2011, 13:26
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KHAITAN WAS invited on first day at NUJS.. They canceled on day of visit itself.. We hope they will still come.. There is NO protest at all here.. The dispute over office location is isolated incident between the recruit and the firm..
idiot 26 Jul 2011, 07:12
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idiot, thats what you are.

since last year NUJS has been having better recruitment than NLS and NALSAR (only edge NLS had over nujs was in international recruitment.) thats result of a smart strategy - your dumb head wont comprehend i suppose. it involves, strategically planning internships from 4th year, for example. also involves handling student expectations and firms in a smart way.

toppers without jobs? did it occur to you that they may be waiting for something better? maybe some of them just prefer PSU jobs, or they'd like to be general counsels? dont judge everyone by your own standards, they are not really that high.
and if you want to express doubts about superior recruitment of NUJS, please compare last years reports. Kian, when r u coming out with the recruitment comparison table?
fool 26 Jul 2011, 19:12
+1 -0
can you as a MATTER OF FACT state that the toppers from this batch did not apply to the top firms? I PERSONALLY KNOW AT LEAST 3 who did and who told me about others.

PPOs after internship are a matter of good work PLUS GOOD LUCK and depends on firms own recruitment strategy for that plan.

APART FROM THAT same recruiters go to all top n-colleges. i heard KOTAK, IDBI, HDFC and 1 more bank will go to most colleges soon including NUJS.

you are right that some amount of good strategy helps get good placement. getting a job in 9-10 firms mentioned in the report is textbook stuff - 1 internship and get PPO or wait for 1st day of internship or go for VS. what extraordinary strategy is needed?

i will judge everyone by my standard. i went through this process. i have seen this process up close in a college ranked higher than urs and got a job that your topper friends did not get.

this year is EASY 100% recruitment for any good college.. its about who can finish first and get better quality recruiters. considering capability of ur toppers i think nujs will be after nls and nalsar.
matter of fact 26 Jul 2011, 21:39
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As a matter of fact there are certain people who do not sit for recruitment even after getting good rank. One one of the TOPPERS of 2011 batch himself opted for litigation, and not for recruitment and in the same manner many others do.

Just because someone of your batch didnt sit doesnt mean that others do not sit. Before last year, one pass out didnt sit for placement. Instead he started hi own LPO, and along with him few opted out for LLM course.

And, do let us know the name of that Big Firm where NUJS students have not been recruited till now, and you are working there.

There are other places too to show frustration.
a sad noojie 27 Jul 2011, 01:30
+0 -0
you had to say this


"considering capability of ur toppers i think nujs will be after nls and nalsar"....!!!!!!

Making me sadder !!
D 21 Jul 2011, 10:42
+2 -0
100% again!
suspicious 21 Jul 2011, 11:18
+2 -0
LI please check all these claims. NALSAR and NUJS placement committes are the biggest liars. None of these colleges have 100% recruitment. Many people do not get jobs and this is covered up by saying that they are joining the bar or giving the IAS exam. LOL! That way all colleges have 100% recruitment! Also how come NUJS has a graduating batch of 95 when it takes 150 students each year? daal mein kuchh kaala hai!
check your facts 21 Jul 2011, 11:26
+2 -0
It seems that you are NLS student, but I would request you to do a bit research. Current batch of NUJS is of 95 students. Latter batches have 125 students barring this year batch whose strength was increased because of the buffer concept.Dnt be jealous.
time for self-introspection 21 Jul 2011, 12:27
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well I do understand that there are rivalry among the colleges at the top, but I would request you guys not to comment in a manner which gives advantage to a fourth college{other than NLS,NALSAR and NUJS}. Many a times,these comments are made in a way to make u believe that a student of rivalry college has commented but the fact is that there are other colleges which take advantage of our fight.......


I am a NALSARite and it has been a long time that we have been fighting with each other,let's come together and take the standard of legal education beyond running after these petty firm jobs,,,,
Guest, Bangalore 21 Jul 2011, 15:33
+3 -0
NUJS ROCKS!!!
Le 21 Jul 2011, 18:52
+1 -0
Until CLAT started avg NUJS batch size was around 85-95, after CLAT it was 120-130, this year its 139 (with 4% buffer). So the figure of 150 is fallacious (pls do basic googling before posting, though at the rate of increase in the seats at NUJS, your figure will be true in 5-7 years ;)
Anon 23 Jul 2011, 11:07
+0 -0
While I agree to the need for verification of all the statistics, the fact remains that NUJS pre-CLAT batches are of far lower numerical strength compared to post-CLAT ones. And NUJS has never in its entire history admitted 150 LL.B. students, so you mention definite figures, may as well check them out yourself first :)
Alum 21 Jul 2011, 11:28
+0 -0
Well done
india today for idiots 21 Jul 2011, 12:49
+2 -0
hilarious, in fact - kian, do you hire these guys to comment and entertain the audience?

when it comes to recruitment, it is becoming impossible to beat NUJS :)
AU alum... 21 Jul 2011, 14:09
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Nujs,nalsar n nlas students please grow up kids....its amazing to see students of the elite colleges claiming thre superiority on the basis of placements...here i would like to mention be you all of you guys are among 1,2 & 3 postns...but when it comes to IAS,PCS other civil services examz...the traditional universites students always have an upper hand than you morons....y dont u'll get this stored in yr brains...this is the reason y unioversities like AU,BHU ,LU have occupied rankings in top 25 law colleges of india....and an IAS or PCS or a PCS(j) is always one step ahead than you morons...irrespective of what you are earning n things of those sort....nd in 10 more years they'll be at power wth the elite law colleges of india/./// mark those linee.....uurrrrggghhhhhh
idiot 21 Jul 2011, 17:20
+6 -0
where did you learn this english? at AU?
Quixote 21 Jul 2011, 18:12
+0 -0
First: What is the language that you are using? I can only presume that it is English. And do you think that atrocious grammar is forgiven in the face of the usage of unparliamentary language?

Are you not guilty of making a rather tautological argument when you say that the top law schools are juvenile in their attempt to establish their pedigree via placements while you have tried to justify the greatness of your alma mater in terms of the success rate at the civils. Why are you trying to create a divide which essentially reads: NLUs for firms and University Law Departments for civils? This, dear sir is a most ill - informed divide to draw. Your comment reeks of a certain disdain for three things: your alama mater, National Law Schools and the Civils themselves when you say that "an IAS or PCS or a PCS(j) is always one step ahead than you morons". You are directly abetting the misuse of position held by the deserving candidates who clear the exam, regardless of their educational origins.

This report is simply one about recruitment figures and not about starting a senseless debate about which is better: NLUs or University Legal Departments. Read and understand the context my friend.

Good Luck with your civils preparations my friend and may the lord grant some passable English and common sense to you.
NLUs Sucks 22 Jul 2011, 19:58
+0 -0
Hey even i agree with the AU alum.Though i am not from a legal background but i have observed the facts quite closely. NLU students mostly prefer to be placed in desk jobs than a goverment one. The traditional Universities are far far better off when it comes to Civil Services.
Can anyone explain the reason?????
raju 21 Jul 2011, 14:19
+2 -0
Go Ashutosh go. Legendary coordinator. Nothing is impossible for this guy.
deepak 25 Jul 2011, 18:35
+1 -0
[quote name="raju"]Go Ashutosh go. Legendary coordinator. Nothing is impossible for this guy.[/quote]

What's this guy done that makes him legendary? It seems that each of the 3 top n-schools have had (more or less) the same regular recruiters. Getting a job in today's market for an average student at these law universities is a cake walk. Market is expanding. There are hardly any firms which would not recruit. 2009 - recession year. Getting a job - hard. 2010 - also hit by recession. 2011 - recession over, but apart from top firms, cautious hiring by others. 2012 - boom year, every one will hire. mark these words. 100% recruitment months before the year ends.
CG 21 Jul 2011, 15:08
+1 -0
I second that Raju!
noojies 21 Jul 2011, 15:56
+6 -0
NALSAR with just 6 firms has 29 and they with 9 has 34...great going NALSAR..deserve to be No. 1 and yes keep washing plates kids
HM 23 Jul 2011, 17:01
+0 -0
"keep washing plates"

hahaha
jacky 23 Jul 2011, 18:06
+0 -0
chew on this... nujs 2012 batch...21 PPOs. 4 TCs and 1 more coming from allen and overy.
and 20 MORE jobs since jun 28,2011...

which other college can claim this record?
Congrats! 21 Jul 2011, 16:50
+1 -0
NUJS (on the) ROCKS!!! :D
Spoil sport 21 Jul 2011, 18:14
+0 -0
whats the big deal yaar..even symbiosis and ils also places around the same number of students or probably even more, every year, in the so called 'big' firms/places (except probably amarchand coz its already full of nujs fellows and is consequently biased towards them).these 'national' fellows are real braggarts yaar..tche!
@ LI 21 Jul 2011, 18:57
+0 -0
a comparison table of 2012 early recruitment stats between NLS, NUJS and NALSAR like (between NALSAR & NLS) at http://www.legallyindia.com/201104262047/Law-schools/nalsars-super-early-recruitment-day-zero-bags-29-law-firm-jobs-for-4th-years would be great
Ex-NUJS CRC Co-ordinator 21 Jul 2011, 21:04
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Very happy with NUJS recruitment performance. Do keep up the good work. For the rest, this is not a competition between NLS/NALSAR or other colleges. I am sure other colleges will have good recruitments as well. The past years have shown that. Your first job is not the last job but it is important because (i) the college support in terms of infrastructure, and (ii) student initiative, goes a long way in serving as a launch pad. Ultimately, if you are good, you will shine through irrespective of where you come from. And please disregard any immature comment alluding to any bias created by NUJSites in top law firms towards hiring from NUJS. I work in one of these 'top' law firms and have been in the profession for five years. I will think 10 times before influencing the management to blindly take students from NUJS. The same goes for students from NLS/NALSAR or any other college. The firms pays hard cash and student selection therefore is always a cold objective process. One last comment - it is clear that no matter what India Today claims about their objectivity and methodology, the top recruiters' estimation of NUJS is thankfully completely at variance, as is reflected from the recruitment stats available till now. That is not to say that NALSAR is not deservingly no. 1, but simply that India Today is not in touch with the pulse of the legal industry.
... 22 Jul 2011, 05:18
+1 -0
Good going CRC of Batch 2012. [...]. Good stuff
Nujsite 22 Jul 2011, 05:32
+0 -0
Congrats batch of 2012
Lacoste 22 Jul 2011, 05:36
+1 -0
I think it's a bit too early to flash your recruitment record. the challenge lies in getting the low rankers placed (preferably with a non-LPO job), I am not trying to cast any aspersion on your ability to achieve that elusive figure of 100%, I hope you guys attain that. It is definitely not a pleasant experience for the students to graduate without a a job in hand after having bled so much of cash and hard-work for five years.
From my past experience in "some" RCC, I would advice you guys to hedge your options, call as many law firms and companies as possible and do go for mid-sized and boutiques.

Hope
? 22 Jul 2011, 05:48
+1 -0
Ha !

Dude, the odd 34 placed include hell lot of low rankers !
Good Effort 22 Jul 2011, 05:46
+5 -0
Good work CRC 2012. The 3 top law schools have done a fantastic job as usual. But keep the momentum up and don't get complacent. The famous NUJS CRC 2011 worked hard till the last day and never gave up hope thereby, giving NUJS arguably the best domestic placements for 2010-11.
Wish all the law students graduating from the class of 2012 all the very best for their future
huh? 22 Jul 2011, 09:24
+0 -0
[quote name="Good Effort"]Good work CRC 2012. The famous NUJS CRC 2011 worked hard till the last day and never gave up hope thereby, giving NUJS arguably the best domestic placements for 2010-11.

Famous??? What is that supposed to mean?
nailer 22 Jul 2011, 11:48
+6 -0
You wouldn't know. Seems like the CRC in your college is infamous! :P
The myth of 100% recruitment 22 Jul 2011, 12:05
+0 -0
Over the years law schools have fallen over one another to claim '100% recruitment'. But it seems that this title of 100% recruitment is a misnomer. Every batch would have some students who prefer academic studies or law practice over jobs at law firm (or dont get any job). Unfortunately most people (including legal websites like LI and B&B) consider jobs at the law firm as the 'only form of recruitment', we need to change this attitude and instead of declaring '100% recruitment' claims we should try to show the career path chosen by students to aid in creating a transparent viewpoint for law school aspirants.
Ex-NUJS CRC Co-ordinator 22 Jul 2011, 12:24
+1 -0
That is but obvious and thats how the calculations are done. You are not brreaking new ground here.
NLS Alum 23 Jul 2011, 11:54
+1 -0
It is extremely surprising to see so many NUJS students opting to work for Trilegal - especially since most NUJS students I know/ met recently have quit in a year or so. Surprising to see such few students opting to work for Luthra.
truth 23 Jul 2011, 12:13
+0 -0
How many NUJS grads have become partners in big law firms?
Answer: NONE

says it all.
truth? 23 Jul 2011, 13:36
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How many NLS grad 2005 onwards have become partners? hardly one or two or may be NONE. NUJS first batch was passed out in the year 2005, and not in 1994.
. 23 Jul 2011, 17:00
+0 -0
nujs first batch= 2003
Mystery 23 Jul 2011, 18:40
+2 -0
Are you idiot?

NUJS started in the year 2000, and it was based on 5 yr LLB degree program.

Either improve you research skills or calculation skills. But, I dont think your college has failed to do so.

Yes, 2003 was the year when NUJS Vienna Moot Court.
Time factor 24 Jul 2011, 14:01
+0 -0
[quote name="truth"]How many NUJS grads have become partners in big law firms?
Answer: NONE

says it all.[/quote]

NUJS is only 6 years old, so hopefully you should wait for a year or two to see NUJS Alum hitting partnership in the big law firms...
anon 23 Jul 2011, 13:40
+1 -0
Kian, the link put for the NUJS 2011 stats is actually for your story on their 2010 stats.
? 23 Jul 2011, 13:51
+3 -0
ILS PUNE Placements have started. The fact is NUJS never had any campus placements. All offers were made through PPOs.
jacky 23 Jul 2011, 17:57
+2 -0
Wonder where you get your news of recruitment from. Assuming your information is correct on the PPO thing, 41 PPOs makes NUJS look like a real rockstar! It means that half the batch got jobs before starting class! Which law school in India can boast of such a thing?

And who cares if ILS placements have started? Hardly a college that matters...
A SAD NOOJIE 24 Jul 2011, 06:33
+2 -0
Eh, Why would you need a job before your classes start? I mean what will you do with that job. So that is not even an argument.

I am only stating a fact. This year lot of not-so-deserving students got placed in big law firms on Day0/PPOs. Those placed in [...] include flunkers in Banking Law. Lol.

A lot of top ranked students have not got placed despite having the grades, moots and papers.

Middle Rankers are also hanging in the air.

This is not a good signal the way firms recruit students. It is all based on contacts. For instance, a non-male student at NUJS got a tier-1 firm (name withheld) only because she stated in her group interviews that her dad is a big shot (name withheld).
cherry 24 Jul 2011, 07:43
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Law firms are business houses. If they think that hiring a girl with an influential father is good for business, why shouldn't they go ahead and hire her? This is definitely nothing new. Especially for a particular B'bay centered, non-family dominated, highly visible firm.

At the same time, law firms also need the hard working and more capable lawyers like you and I to do the dirty work. Once a client comes to them, who will do all the work?

SO if a top ranking student is truly as 'deserving' as you think he or she is, they would have gotten placed at one of the big firms as well. If they haven't been, then they truly need to introspect and be prepared to overcome whatever is their shortcoming to be able to perform better in other interviews instead of just blaming someone who got placed!

While they are at it, they should go slap the genius who came up with the idea of 6 simultaneous interviews (ref comment 1.1) to 'kick' start the recruitment.
A SAD NOOJIE 24 Jul 2011, 15:27
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Point well taken dude. Why come to campus and interview kids if you were to take big shots' kids eventually? Hypocrisy in language of profit making? If profit making is right, why not publicly solicit students who are born with a silver spoon? Do they really need to be pretentious?

Well, apart from the ill-functioning CRC that we have, there are certain snakes who disclosed other firms about day0 recruitment (no wonder they got several offers too)..

putting all these together, it pains me to say that nujs might have had good mooters and debaters but when it comes to a good person, none could be counted in.
le 25 Jul 2011, 11:58
+0 -0
if there were indeed 6 simultaneous interviews is the stat of 41 - number of offers or total number of students who got jobs!!!!
leeeeee 25 Jul 2011, 15:15
+0 -0
it would not been tough for person to read the very first line of the article. 41 STUDENTS.
cherry 25 Jul 2011, 18:24
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[quote name="A SAD NOOJIE"]there are certain snakes who disclosed other firms about day0 recruitment (no wonder they got several offers too)..[/quote]

could you elaborate?
NUJS alum 26 Jul 2011, 08:43
+2 -0
Dear sad noojie - i personally hate that name. I am one of your seniors and i work in one of the so called big law firms.

As explained above, if a firm believes that it makes sense to recruit someone with contacts.. they bloody well should.. who are you to say anything..

An where i agree that every year a few jobs are given on that basis - 95% on the bais of ur ablities. And please understand that the grades you get is not indicative of that.. the same logic might apply to the high rankers.. by having a good relationship with the faculty some undeserving candita might have got better grades than a more deserving person.. so stop this case of sour grapes and try to get a good job.

i have met quite a few guys whose grades may be good but they are not the sorts we want working in a client facing job.. where some ppl who have low grades (even the so called flunkies) who are perfectly suited for the job...thats the reality and you have to deal with it
Sad Noojie 26 Jul 2011, 14:33
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dear nujs alumni,

So why do you all have these "Only Top-Rankers-Apply" policy for internships?

You have to defend your point, and you will, no matter how viable the argument is?

And could you please give an explanation, why would certain law firm hire on contacts? Well, they should hire someone who deserves it? Who can deserve it more who had toiled 4 years and scored rank 7 or 8? Your rank is the best proof of your suitable candidacy?
seems 26 Jul 2011, 17:42
+2 -0
u seem like a mugger who has mugged all shit throughout 5 years to get grades, and now crying
anushka Manjan 25 Jul 2011, 19:56
+3 -0
is Baba Ramdev coming to campus this year, cos last year he did??
? 26 Jul 2011, 14:35
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Dear anushka,

Ramdev is not coming to campus. He is conducting a written test. The topic is "Corruption in Law Schools"