Congrats to Kian, ambasta , Chauhan and others.

While the sentiment expressed here is admirable, it's highly misleading to suggest that the NLS students and alumni were petitioning for a good VC and going on strike to achieve Sudhur's appointment.

The appointment was made by a sub-committee constituted by the executive council of NLS in which neither students nor alumni had any representation.

The strike and back channel efforts by alumni were purely directed at taking the appointment to its logical conclusion and counter measures to suppress / delay the appointment. While it is moot whether students and alumni would have made similar efforts had the candidate been someone else, it's a mischaracterisation to say that the Sudhir was chosen VC through a vox populi vote.

Hmmm, may be try not telling him what and how he should be doing his job?

There is a document doing the rounds of NLS whatapp groups with Sudhir's presentation (probably to the selection committee) which has a flowchart of his proposal for revitalizing NLS. It says that for faculty hiring NLS will do targeted, search based hiring of faculty at Assoc/Prof/Chair Prof levels. So it is quite likely that he will reach out to specific people and hire them. I am guessing his first port of call will be alum and other NLU grads teaching in India - perhaps Mrinal (Prof. of Criminal Law) and Aparna (Prof. of Constitutional Law) from NLUD, Chauhan (Prof. of Jurisprudence and Political Theory) from NALSAR, and relatively senior alum from other NLUs teaching in India? These are the people most likely to move to NLS. People located abroad will not relocate that easily. I hope he manages to pull this off!

HPNLU students should go back to their classes, make their institution equivalent to NLS and then make merry !!

"Resign" perhaps too strong?

So long as a university is known for the achievements of its students, NUJS would always keep doing well. Rest you can continue bickering about, doesn't really matter one way or another. Haters gonna hate.

If he actually has to do even a fraction of what everybody expects him to do at NLSIU during his tenure, he won't have any time to attend meetings of other governing bodies.

NLUD the latest news is there is a dark horse emerging for VCship, someone outside the law school system is being considered , that person is very close the present VC and was his right hand man during his NALSAR days he left NALSAR in 2009 and is Prof in a prestigious institution( not any law school) he is highly respected amongst the NALSAR student community where he taught two very important law courses until he left, In JuLy (2019) he met the VC at NLUD and the grapevine is that later on they met the Chancellor -CJ and he was introduced by Prof RS , one thing about him is that he is much younger than PSJ and has lot of global connections

As an NLU Alum myself I'm not sure why being an alumnus of an NLU would make me distinctly better as an administrative head. I've known batchmates unfit to head a tour group, much less an NLU, so I strongly disagree with the contention that only NLU alumni should head NLUs

Arushi!!! Isn't she like 2013 batch?

Saurabh Bhattacharjee from NALSAR. Hardest working and most caring of all the NLU grads currently working in Indian academia. All his students love him and he hasn't had to lower standards for that either.

Shubhankar Dam, Arjyabir Mazumder, Arpan Banerjee from NUJS. There are a couple others who look promising too from NUJS, but still way too young. Prabhash Ranjan, though he isn't an NLU grad. Rahul Singh from NLSIU.

This is what is so so wrong with academia in India. The hero worship of people who have barely begun to prove themselves - just because they have foreign degrees and fall within some elitist conceptions of merit ( read Savarna, upper class, city born, English speaking NLU graduates) will only continue to perpetuate itself. Leading to systemic oppression and incompetence. Does no one remember LOSHA? How many of these NLU cheerleaders would have cheered on Lawrence liang for just these positions?

Surely the appropriate take away from the Sudhir NLS saga should be that of the importance of picking a dedicated smart proven candidate for the job- and for ensuring no one - including university administrations or students- should have unquestioned power and influence.

I studied at Nalsar at the same time as Arushi - she’s fine, she’s at the beginning of her career- I could just as easily name twenty other people from her batch who were just as good. A Rhodes scholarship does not an academic make.

Why would a teacher threaten their students with anything is beyond me. They aren't adversaries, both sides want or at least ought to want to see the students doing well. Although being a disciplinarian isn't a bad thing, especially at the undergrad level. But that's not the same as enmity, threats, intimidation etc.

Its usual the finance officer

How can one be too young for a future position? I mean unless you are referring to undergrads or school-going students. These are promising people. Even if they don't become VCs, any institution having more than a few of them would flourish.

Considering you haven't even got the names of many of these people straight, I doubt this initiative is actually as serious as you claim it to be.

You can add these names to the list. They were provided by someone on another thread (https://www.legallyindia.com/lawschools/jgls-hires-22-nlu-llb-grads-30-of-fac-hold-nlu-llbs-full-list-of-75-new-hires-20190914-10854#comments).

8 at NALSAR who come to NLUs
[b]1 Sudhanshu Kumar - CNLU - Corporate law, Cap Markets, Competition Law
2 Sidharth Chauhan - NLSIU - Constitutional Law[/b]
3 Vivek Mukherjee - NLIU - Environmental Law, Animal Law, International Law
4 Sahana Ramesh - NUJS - Arbitration
5 Chinmay Deshmukh - NLUJ - Jurisprudence, IPR
6 Anindita Jaiswal - NLUJ - Corporate Law
7 Akanksha Kumar - HNLU - Arbitration, IPR
8 Prerna Bijoy - NUSRL - Jurisprudence, Legal Methods

9 Foreign degrees
[b]1 Jagteshwar Singh Sohi - Osgoode Hall - Osgoode Hall - Environmental Law, International Law[/b]
2 Rajesh Kapoor - King's London - Arbitration, Contracts
3 Sidharth Chauhan - UPenn
4 Prerna Dhoop - Duke - Administrative Law, LGBTQ & Law
5 Utkarsh Leo - UCL - Law & Eco, Blockchain Tech & Law
6 Sahana Ramesh - LSE
7 Chinmay Deshmukh - Goethe
8 Anindita Jaiswal - Edinburgh (PhD)
9 Akanksha Kumar - NUS

I haven't been taught by all of them as most have only joined recently. However, you must call people like Sudhanshu bhaiya, SidChu and Jaggi bhaiya. They are all amazing at their subjects and very good public speakers.

Sudhanshu edits S.M Dugar's Competition law (https://www.amazon.in/Dugars-Guide-Competition-Act-2002/dp/8131252647) and also contributed to C.R Datta on Company Law.

Both Sidharth Chauhan (Aadhar judgment) and Jagteshwar Sohi (Sabarimala judgment) have been cited by Justice Chandrachud in his judgments in the previous one year.

These are some good names. I can suggest a few more as good teachers at least. These guys are probably too junior otherwise.
Moiz Tundwala (NUJS, currently at Jindal I think)
Kaushik Krisnan (NUJS)
Eashan Ghosh (NLSIU)
Debarshi Borat (NUJS, currently at Jindal)
Saptarshi Mandal (NUJS, currently at Jindal)
Gautam Bhatia (NLSIU, currently SC advocate and consti law scholar)
Souvik Guha (NUJS)
Prashant Reddy (currently at Vidhi)

pls add moiz tundawalla

Who said anything about people at NALSAR being better than those at NLUD? You merely read what you thought was being said. 28.2/28.3 only states a personal opinion of who all can be added to a list of people worth calling in for a guest lecture!

Very unlikely to happen. These days, appointments are all subject to EC approval. NLSIU EC isn't entirely on Sudhir's side anyway. Any fast one that he tries to pull like MP Singh did earlier would immediately be challenged. He can still get good people and incentivise them to do good work, but not the sort of stuff like promotion ahead of time etc. UGC rules are more closely followed now since the NLUs have started going for NAAC etc.

Working hard or hardly working?

I’m saying that law school culture , and even student evaluations tend to push forward the most privileged among us, not necessarily the most meritorious.
I know sooo many women academics- who are absolutely brilliant, but who are not thought of as academic superstars- they’re brushed off because they only do “feminism” and “women’s studies”. I know quite a few Dalit academics whose work shows rigor and imagination - who students would brush off without even considering.

I saw this in law school. I saw the best professor in my school not get the respect she had earned - because she talked too much about feminism. I saw incompetent professors get a pass because “he’s a nice guy”. And I saw how students students made fun of other professors because they didn’t have perfect English diction. I also saw Savarna Male professors being hero worshipped even when they didn’t want it.

Definitely not all students - but yeah - many of them. This was the culture- and it seeped down to how one interacted with seniors and juniors. Even in Arushis batch - the men found such a cult following among juniors - because they were good quizzes or SBC president. That batch was filled to the brim with bright young women who were never described the same way.
In other batches one guy won a moot and instantly became an expert in all of technology law (are you kidding me?) but no one approached his teammate for help or advice even once - she was a woman.

This is a systemic problem - this exists among all groups in society and it definitely does in academia- it definitely does exist among law students - what they consider to be the ideal of meritorious is ofcourse shaped by the society they grow in. It is not wrong to admit that.

There is literally no better example than that list of public intellectuals the print put out - which has few women, fewer Dalits, and I don’t think anyone who did not work in English.

We would be building better law schools if we did not repeat the same patterns.

That google scholar thing was just a response to the person who wanted to know how many of Sudhir’s papers were cited or whatever - that’s not my measure. Mine is if they can produce research that is rigorous , imaginative, and important.

Students are demanding better faculty. Not necessarily NLU grad faculty. On an average, NLU grads tend to be more in tune with the needs and wants of NLU students. Hence they often turn out to be more suitable teachers at the NLUs. That doesn't mean good people from traditional law universities can't make good teachers either.

Regarding your point about the UGC notification on PhDs, there's no dispute. People having PhDs from India or abroad are exempted from NET. In all NLUs. The problem is bulk of NLU alumni looking to join academia have foreign LLMs and not PhD at entry level. They bear the brunt of the NET rule. You can't expect a person to start looking for jobs only at the age of 27-28, which is the earliest one can get PhDs mostly in law.
All other points I agree with.

Why not the top 5 Looney tunes cartoon characters while you are at it.

Sarasu has taken over w.e.f. October 1st. Here's to a new deal for NLS!

Stop trying to divide the students. You are obviously a puppet of the old guard trying to slander Sudhir.

Given the developments or rather lack thereof, it seems Breaking News was right about a deal having been struck after all.
Shame on the people involved, trying to exploit and take advantage of the same students whose fees go towards paying their salaries.

Sudhir is in an unenviable position. There are so many expectations from him, but it is highly unlikely that he has can deliver on many of them. Sure, he can hold recruitments - but how does he get good people to join? Students and NLS watchers are all expecting him to deliver big on this and hire alum and other big names. But this is beyond his control. Alum who are located abroad are highly unlikely to want to come back. Even those alum who are teaching in India are already part of other institutions, may have their own commitments and obligations, including family obligations in other parts of the country. That leaves him with a very limited pool. To attract people, he would have to make aggressive offers - fast tracking promotions, or offering chair professorships, or other such incentives. Here he will run into resistance from the old guard. And from UGC norms. Plus on top, NLS has severe money woes. Those who are thinking that big changes are coming to NLS would do well to temper their expectations.

Things have actually gotten worse, trust me.

1. He has implemented compulsory MAC-IP binding for all devices in the University network without any consultation from the stakeholders. Wait for The next copyright infringement notice and the University will hand out the specific student who has done so. And mind you, copyright infringement because of downloading torrents of books and movies are quite common in universities. Pure surveillance.

2. He has closed Acad bloc for evenings. Worse than what Ramesh did and which was one of the major flashpoint between students and admin. He has also closed all but one gate of the University from 7 PM - 9 AM. And these things are done without even notifying the student body. He informed student representatives that no circulars will be issued regarding these changes. Consultation with stakeholders seem like a distant dream, he is not even willing to issue official notification.

3. He has implemented the fee hike and has no plans for any proportionate increase in the scholarship corpus- the only way those affected the worse could have been relieved.

4. There are many more Unilateral decisions that he has taken. In my opinion, all he has done is to engage in gimmicks rather than doing something solid on ground - like giving interviews to various portals and suddenly coming in student mess and having lunch there. Not to mention [...]

LI, I sincerely request you to publish this. You are free to redact anything that you feel is defamatory. But please don't withhold it.

Why don't you tell us what has been the accomplished VC's accomplishments since he has taken charge? I'm sure we would like to hear some facts. So far, neither you nor 40.1.2 has offered any in response to SudhirTruther (who definitely seems to be an insider based on his comments). And to think that people from other NLUs are going to bother about how NLSIU VC is not doing much to help NLSIU despite all the fanfare is borderline paranoia. If Sudhir isn't actually doing much, then by your logic, the other 'jealous' NLUs would keep quiet and let him continue (not) doing the same, no? And if he's actually doing something cogent, then what's the use of saying he isn't, only to get disproved by facts immediately? That's why either way it's better if you can present some facts in course of your argument.

No, Anti-Sudhir comments are actually from God, who's now jealous of how close Sudhir has got to toppling Him from His divine throne, based on the strength of the wide-eyed adulation of his fanbase.

How exactly can they so confirm? By revealing the actual information about the work being done over the past one month under the new admin? By all means, let people come forward and do that. So far, three people 40.1.2, 41 and you have protested, but between all three of you, not a single fact has emerged to counter the allegations. That speaks volumes. At the very least, it shows none of you is probably an insider, or if you are, you have nothing positive to say to prove the efficiency or ability of the current admin. All you are doing instead is personally attacking the people who are trying to blow the whistle.

You should not hesitate to directly raise your concerns with the new VC. From what you have posted, the issues relate to routine administrative matters, such as the internet use policy and restrictions on movement. Can't the concerned SBA Committees (LTech and CDMC) directly raise the students' concerns and demand reasons behind the decisions? I don't think that he will simply shoo you away. He is more likely to state his reasons which can be discussed.

The fee-hike is a far more substantive issue. From what I have gathered, students can pay in installments and those who are unable to pay will have their cases considered by the Scholarship Committee. Sudhir has already written to some government departments and private parties. Given the large budgetary deficit, the only practical solution might be an increase in seats, possibly by 2021.

Now that's what I call a positive contribution. Far better than simply trying to brush every concern under the carpet under the guise of malarchy.

They didn't mean the websites were being blocked. You should spend more time reading something before rushing to comment on it. They meant that the university could track the specific student who would be using any particular website even if they were doing it through the university Wi-Fi. I still believe that's necessary for plain security reasons, but that doesn't mean the admin couldn't talk to the students and explain to them the necessity before taking a unilateral decision having privacy implications.

If JNU ever starts an LLB programme, a lot of people would. Better faculty, better infra, miles ahead in every ranking and global perception compared to any NLU.

JNU gets central funding. Once NLSIU starts getting that, the students can demand to pay INR 10 only for hostel room, not before.