NLIU Bhopal has started its Day Zero recruitment efforts today with a visit from Amarchand Mangaldas and Clifford Chance’s captive legal offshore unit OSC Export Services, months after six other national law schools and JGLS Sonepat closed their Day Zero recruitments, risking a very low recruiter turn-out.
NLIU’s Placement Coordination Committee’s (PCC) faculty coordinator Dr Raka Arya confirmed that 15 students out of the batch of 80 graduating in 2014 are today appearing for their first set of Day Zero interviews, having already entered the final year of law school. OSC Legal has shortlisted seven students for interview, while Amarchand has shortlisted eight out of whom two are expected walk away with offers.
Arya said that Amarchand and Khaitan & Co have also previously made two pre-placement offers (PPO) to students of the batch, as reported by Legally India.
Other than Amarchand and OSC, public sector undertaking (PSU) Bharat Petroleum Corporation (BPCL) is the only other recruiter that has so far agreed to visit campus for interviews, but has not yet confirmed a date, she further confirmed.
The student coordinator of the PCC for 2014, Aditya Shekhar, confirmed to Legally India that placement interviews were scheduled to be conducted today, but declined to comment further at the time of going to press.
Arya said: “I was to take charge [of the PCC] from July only. This time I have come to know [that the reason] why we have not been receiving replies from many organisations is because the market is very low. Last year they already over-recruited. That is why there is this particular disinterest and the organisations we are getting in touch with are not in a position to recruit this year.”
“We should try [holding Day Zero] during our regular month next,” she added. “We used to have it earlier, and see how many organisations turn up.”
Last year NLIU held its Day Zero on 16 April, netting nine offers on the first day of fourth year recruitment, including 5 PPOs.
One NLIU student, who did not want to be named, told Legally India that while some members of the PCC had called for Day Zero to begin in April or May at the law school, they were outvoted by others who felt that the batch needed to secure more internships before appearing in recruitment interviews. However, now recruiters were declining offers to visit the campus, because they had already conducted a majority of their interviews and recruitments.
India’s largest six law firms – Amarchand, AZB & Partners, Khaitan, Luthra & Luthra, Trilegal and JSA – had already hired more than 100 fourth year students from eleven Indian law schools by mid-May this year, as first reported by Legally India.
“[Because of lack of long term planning, we have messed up all the things for the 2014 batch. Candidates like me are left only with what we can do outside of college. I don’t think we are going to have any great placements this year,” commented the NLIU student.
Out of a batch of 80, 30 students have subscribed to the campus recruitment process. Meanwhile, the law school still awaits the appointment of its new director and registrar after outgoing director Prof SS Singh’s term ended on 31 May and former registrar SC Pande was transferred in May.
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it would be good if the director of the college looks after the placement.
see nlu jodhpur, nalsar, nls, nujs, gnlu and even jindal.. all have have secures excellent placements for their students. i think its high time clat aspirants should rank nliu bhopal after gnlu
I also saw your facebook page with this story. With such language, it is time for you to hire someone with better language skills.
I rest my case.
2 out of 8 or 6 out of 8-even d author couldn't predict d placement properly!
Of the 30 people sitting for placements 10 are already placed so far. Shall get back when 20 more are placed. Till then..some positivity your way. Not that I mean that the writer intended take out some personal vengeance against NLIU. Chao!
Res ipsa loquitor.
You and India TV can win the journalist of the year award!! If nothing we from NLIU will vote for you :)
If you even had the slightest of good interest for the students from the batch sitting in placements or otherwise, you wouldn't have labelled the whole process as sham even before you saw how many people NLIU gets placed before the year closes. Speaks volume of how you allow stories to be written and the kind of people you have employed to work for you.
Shouldn't you be doing some sensible reporting and not sensational one! oh wait may be all you seek is popularity at the cost of some students from a law school which has some domicile and well why do you care. your story will sell and thats all matters to you.
I am sure you will not publish this, I still want to put this across to you, that you should be more responsible while putting things to the world and realize the consequences your actions may have.
SERIOUSLY HOPE YOU WOULD NOT REPEAT THIS!!!!
ANd the whole placement is a failurre altogether!!! KIAN and PRACHI Seriously!! what are you guys smoking thesedays?? something growing int he NalsAr and Amity gardens i suppose??
Dear Prachi, I seriously hope you were drnk when you decided to report this!!
We're very happy for you that so many offers have been made, and congratulate those who got jobs sincerely, but surely the fact that no other top tier firms (or any recruiter apart from OSC) appear to be planning to visit NLIU campus at present must be some cause for concern among the PCC (and some of the students, clearly)?
If this is the situation at what is usually considered one of India's top 5 or so law schools, what hope is there for any of the newer N schools?
I also understand that the NLIU administration has not been helping the PCC much this year, with very little funding and the like?
However, if you are not concerned about what is going on in your own back yard, please feel free to forget what I said and to continue shooting the messenger, we're used to it. :)
Best wishes,
Kian
We're very happy for you that so many offers have been made, and congratulate those who got jobs sincerely, but surely the fact that no other top tier firms (or any recruiter apart from OSC) appear to be planning to visit NLIU campus at present must be some cause for concern among the PCC (and some of the students, clearly)?
If this is the situation at what is usually considered one of India's top 5 or so law schools, what hope is there for any of the newer N schools?
I also understand that the NLIU administration has not been helping the PCC much this year, with very little funding and the like?
However, if you are not concerned about what is going on in your own back yard, please feel free to forget what I said and to continue shooting the messenger, we're used to it. :)
Best wishes,
Kian[/quote]
Are the first four paragraphs questions or statements???
[quote name="Guest"][quote name="kianganz"]Surely the point is that when we reported the story, even the faculty in charge and majority of students didn't expect more than 2 offers from Amarchand?
We're very happy for you that so many offers have been made, and congratulate those who got jobs sincerely, but surely the fact that no other top tier firms (or any recruiter apart from OSC) appear to be planning to visit NLIU campus at present must be some cause for concern among the PCC (and some of the students, clearly)?
If this is the situation at what is usually considered one of India's top 5 or so law schools, what hope is there for any of the newer N schools?
I also understand that the NLIU administration has not been helping the PCC much this year, with very little funding and the like?
However, if you are not concerned about what is going on in your own back yard, please feel free to forget what I said and to continue shooting the messenger, we're used to it. :)
Best wishes,
Kian[/quote]
Are the first four paragraphs questions or statements???[/quote]
Thank you very much for being happy for us. We accept your good wishes. :)
But, what I am amazed about is how you seem to be knowing about all the firms that are 'not planning' to visit our campus.
You do not need to be too concerned about future. We know about the administration and the funding and the PCC much more than you do. We can take care of ourselves. We certainly do not need an outsider telling us what is going on in our back yard.
However, if you still wish to be your 'irresponsible' self, please feel free to do so, we ain't expecting much anyway. And like I said, we will take care of ourselves and of each other.
Thank you very much for being happy for us. We accept your good wishes. :)
But, what I am amazed about is how you seem to be knowing about all the firms that are 'not planning' to visit our campus.
You do not need to be too concerned about future. We know about the administration and the funding and the PCC much more than you do. We can take care of ourselves. We certainly do not need an outsider telling us what is going on in our back yard.
However, if you still wish to be your 'irresponsible' self, please feel free to do so, we ain't expecting much anyway. And like I said, we will take care of ourselves and of each other.[/quote]
And Legally India won't visit coz then it would put an end to the sensationalism they want serve out to ppl. I know wats happening at NLIU. Its time you start knowing what you are putting out to the world.
Also i seriously hope you had called up all the firms and checked their PLANS...bcoz how you claim to know that is interesting.
Anyways .....all said and done my advice to LI: You guys have a lot of ppl reading what you write ! So be responsible and understand what consequences your actions may have.
And it is sensationalist to report a pre-zero day cover on a law school, with inputs from an anonymous student, and making assertions like 'you can expect 2 out of 8 to get placed'.
And it doesnt hampers our interests.
So, thanks, much like we thanked India Today for giving us a good idea of law schools when we ranked based on its "survey"
Hey Kianz! You say Majority, Did you conduct some survey of sorts?
This Article has a clear Bias and sensationalizing language. Its sad to see that you have also resort to Breaking News Syndrome (currently widespread among Indian News Channels) There are only few Indian Legal News Sources. If you all keep publishing such stories' you are gonna loose credibility! Your article will create ripples only in the minds of those who matter not.
NLIU gonna perform as have been doing its proud pool of Alumnis.
Its high time you guys better start doing something to avoid your site turn to a bickering playground for NLU's.
I am sure team LI can understand?
However, I think in this case it was fair enough to write a story, and it doesn't look like anything bad came out of it (apart from aforementioned venom directed at LI).
Consider with every other second college that cries about us publishing Day Zero information because they don't want to turn off future recruiters with information that everyone has been placed (though recruiters are pretty aware of these stats anyway).
Therefore, in writing the story, if anything, we thought that it would play into NLIU students' favour, by showing other recruiters that there is still plenty of talent to be hired from NLIU.
If we had waited a day and done an artificially 'positive' story about how Amarchand had recruited 30% of the batch already, and all were likely to have a home soon in a record recruitment season, surely this would have been detrimental to all unplaced students far more, except for making the NLIU PCC feel a little better about itself?
We are confident to stand by the story and the headline, in that NLIU started its Day Zero rather late and most law firms have a much lower appetite for 2014 graduates than they did 2 months ago, or even 2 years ago...
If we have to take some venom and irrationality, so be it.
Best wishes,
Kian
Once again, my request is that you should carefully consider the choice of words when reporting recruitment related stories because it impacts a college's current perception, as well as future recruitment. This market has its own quirks and it would not be easy to explain every minute detail so easily :) I would not ask this of every reporter and I ask this of you because I think you'll understand.
NLIU has never followed a system similar to other law schools, which may be well-suited owing to factors such as location. Khaitan has never recruited at NLIU on the same day as Khaitan. We all know NLIU enjoys a solid position at that firm.
I don't know what you've come to believe in the past few years, but a law school decides its own way of placing students. Surely, you don't expect NLIU to follow others law schools blindly. Also, you will never see a law school that satisfies all its students.
B&B visited NLIU and stated that it was impressed by the places, you should too.. and may be, just may be LegallyIndia will have more to focus on than just PPOs and Placements.
NLIU had the first international tie up for mediation , which will have its third edition coming up this acad session. We were rank 5 at TNC Germany, best new law school at Chicago, and won a prize at the INADR Dubai this year.
Sadly, no website compiling these things in the form of a competitive table.
And NLIU's in the top 3 debating law schools. After NLS and NLUD.
But you're right, mooting. Because its visible, and its synonymous with law schools.
I'd say you have a rather narrow perspective for defining success, and I dont blame you.
How does AMSS/Khaitan/Tier 1 firms recruit other than campus placement and/or ppos? Never seen any ads. Frankly, what kind of jugaad do they prefer?
NLIU has never followed a system similar to other law schools, which may be well-suited owing to factors such as location. [u][b]Khaitan has never recruited at NLIU on the same day as Khaitan. [/b][/u]We all know NLIU enjoys a solid position at that firm.
I don't know what you've come to believe in the past few years, but a law school decides its own way of placing students. Surely, you don't expect NLIU to follow others law schools blindly. Also, you will never see a law school that satisfies all its students.
B&B visited NLIU and stated that it was impressed by the places, you should too.. and may be, just may be LegallyIndia will have more to focus on than just PPOs and Placements.[/quote]
Khaitan has never recruited at NLIU on the same day as Khaitan?? Are you high?
Free advice: don't send emails or post comments on blogs when you're drunk, it makes you look like an ass.
Kudos to the student body who have been striving on their own without any support from the administration. AMSS picking up 8 from the batch of 2014 of NLIU(including 2PPOs) - maximum count from any law school during the year- speaks immensely about the talent pool available. The need of the hour is to nurture the talent.
1. Bad economy
2. No FDI allowed in legal sector, no job creation happening
3. NLIU is filled with local students in domicile quota who are awful
4. One of the biggest recruiters is recruiting from GNLU instead to suck up to Modi
5. Students handling recruitment are useless
if you know what Day zero means it is the day when u get the maximum placements, when all big firms come to your campus and recruit people and your day zero was good in the sense that amss recruited 8 ppl (including 2 ppo)
but you need to realize that other big law firms have already recruited from other law schools and firms like luthra, azb, trilegal dont come to your campus.
Congratulations to those ppl who have been recruited and I hope you guys have a wonderful placement season ahead. :)
Thank you for your comments and congratulations to all those from NLIU who have secured a job so far. May the others soon benefit as well from a good season.
For the avoidance of any doubt, each and every figure reported in this story (including the 2 expected placements out of 8 interviewees at Amarchand) were put across to NLIU's faculty coordinator Dr Raka Arya, before we published them, and she confirmed their correctness. I have a voice-recorded telephone conversation I had with her.
Legally India does not print information such as figures and names on the confirmation of unnamed sources, but if that was not obvious we have now mentioned the faculty's confirmation of figures in the story.
Best wishes,
Prachi
Thank you for your comments and congratulations to all those from NLIU who have secured a job so far. May the others soon benefit as well from a good season.
For the avoidance of any doubt, each and every figure reported in this story (including the 2 expected placements out of 8 interviewees at Amarchand) were put across to NLIU's faculty coordinator Dr Raka Arya, before we published them, and she confirmed their correctness. I have a voice-recorded telephone conversation I had with her.
Legally India does not print information such as figures and names on the confirmation of unnamed sources, but if that was not obvious we have now mentioned the faculty's confirmation of figures in the story.
Best wishes,
Prachi[/quote]
Prachi interesting how the reply from PCC in this blog "http://www.legallyindia.com/Blogs/recruitment-at-nliu-bhopal" goes completely against what you are saying!!
Also, Are you confessing that you recorded a telephonic conversation with certain person without seeking their permission to record such conversations? Is this a good practice KIAN ?? and more so it this a usual practice?
So there is no "confession" so to speak.
Best wishes,
Prachi
So there is no "confession" so to speak.
Best wishes,
Prachi[/quote]
"Thank for you for your concern" ROFLMAO !!
And did you tell the person that whatever she/he is going to say is going to be on the record? No need to be agitated..just trying to understand the practice.
And if anything, we've always tried to be egalitarian in our 'hounding'. If we hadn't been, the odds are good you probably wouldn't even be reading about Day Zeros every year (unless a college wanted to press release them and show off), or you wouldn't have read about Nalsargate, NUJS slapgate and goings on, details of strange GNLU affairs, and so on and on...
Sure, a free press can be annoying at times but I think it's hardly the largest problem legal education and students face.
My 2 cents. Peace. :)
Since when have you become Press, leave alone a free press!
Your readers will be eager to know the regulations/compliance requirements as applicable on 'Press' that Legallyindia.com is also following diligently. Name me one such regulation!
Regards.
Have a nice day!