RGNUL VC, NLU-D candidate Jaswal at loggerheads with state, as students request forensic audit, fee waivers [UPDATE-1: HT report]

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RGNUL Patiala’s finances and its vice-chancellor (VC) Paramjit Jaswal‘s tenure has been under scrutiny from the state’s Higher Education Department, with multiple sources strongly suggesting that Jaswal may have tendered his as-yet unaccepted resignation in response.

The Tribune reported late yesterday that:

As per documents in possession with The Tribune, the office of Directorate, Education Department (Colleges), has demanded explanation from the RGNUL about its income and expenditure over the years.

In particular, this includes several construction contracts allegedly handed out without a tender, which we understand had resulted in the education department asking Jaswal for an explanation and further details.

Notably, RGNUL has never published its accounts on its website, with Jaswal telling us in March 2019 that he was amenable to publication of its accounts but that this could also cause malicious misinterpretation.

According to the Tribune, “rumours of Vice-Chancellor Dr Paramjit Singh Jaswal having tendered his resignation started doing the rounds”, but neither the paper nor we have been able to authoritatively confirm this, though a large number of our campus sources claim to also be aware of his resignation, though none had seen a copy of his resignation letter first hand.

Update 00:07: The Hindustan Times has quoted an anonymous higher education department official as saying, amongst other things: “The Punjab government has funded the university to the tune of Rs 220 crore, and it has every right to ask how the money was spent … whether the rules were followed or not. CAG has left out several areas which need proper investigation. The university took grants from the state government, but didn’t supply a single audit report to the education department.” The official also said: “While the Punjabi University has slipped into a debt of Rs 130 crore in the past one decade, RGNUL made fixed deposits of Rs 48 crore. Why they concealed these facts from the Punjab government?”

We have reached out to Jaswal for comment repeatedly over the last few days but he had declined to confirm or deny his having tendered his resignation, nor comment on the department’s inquiry.

One student speculated that Jaswal’s resignation, if true, could also be a sophisticated strategic gambit on Jaswal’s behalf to counter any inquiry, at a time when no state government or chancellor (who would have to formally accept a VC’s resignation) probably has interest in the rigmarole of appointing a new head of a national law school.

(A relevant case in point here might also be NLU Delhi’s search for the successor of VC Prof Ranbir Singh, which has been pending for nearly seven months now since October 2019; Jaswal, incidentally, according to several NLU Delhi sources, is one of three candidates recommended by the search committee for the job, subject to the chancellor’s final selection, which has not been forthcoming due to Covid-19).

The student speculating on Jaswal’s resignation noted that Jaswal had verbally indicated that he would resign also during discussions in the wake of the student protests more than a year ago, which had been effective in bringing students, the university’s chancellor and Jaswal to a discussion table to eventually hammer out a compromise.

Students have been digging

Over the last year, RGNUL students had been collecting a number of Right to Information (RTI) replies from the university, highlighting some potential irregularities in RGNUL’s accounts.

On 31 August 2019, students had then anonymously (for “fear of backlash”) sent an 11-page letter to the principal secretary Technical Education & Industrial Training, Punjab, Anurag Verma (IAS), with a list of grievances and in particular highlighting some of these potential issues, a copy of which we have seen.

The students noted that a “forensic audit” of RGNUL’s accounts was required.

Those student grievances are neither new nor over: only in March, we had reported that students were aggrieved that their hard-fought-for inquiry report presided over by a judge against a former senior RGNUL staff member, was not being provided to them under RTI.

That inquiry had followed protests in March 2019 against Jaswal and the administration, and the engagement and a campus visit by the National Commission for Women in May 2019.

Students had also requested state for Covid fee waiver

More recently, 726 RGNUL students had sent a petition to the state government requesting a waiver of university fees, due to the Covid-19 crisis.

The students had requested a waiver of any annual increase in tuition fees, a rebate of late fees and a partial refund of already paid fees, such as amenities, moot court, mess and campus development fund fees (since the campus remained closed due to Covid-19).

The students had written:

With due respect, this is to bring to your kind attention the economic stress caused by the COVID-19 pandemic and extended lockdowns on the families of RGNUL students. The cataclysmic damage caused to the various sectors of Indian Economy are unprecedented. At the micro level, this has hit the financial condition of many households across the country. In this scenario, many parents/guardians find it difficult to pay the fees for the next semester…

We understand that the Punjab chief minister’s office has forwarded the students’ request to the education department for consideration as per government policy.

Comments

Rgnool 23 May 2020, 07:31
+28 -4
Your time at RGNUL is finished Dr. Jaswal. Save your dignity (whatever is left) and leave.
Adv. Saleem 23 May 2020, 07:41
+4 -22
Very vague and hazy article. Nothing factual. Everything is of speculative nature. It's no secret that this website has a large reach among the people, so that's not how a law platform should operate.
Adv. Ganesh 23 May 2020, 11:16
+1 -3
Please know that you do not know everything.
Guest0000 23 May 2020, 13:00
+2 -1
Grow up above this cheap childish tactics. Rather speak on the basis of facts.
Hello 23 May 2020, 07:46
+6 -0
Bubye
CaptainAS 23 May 2020, 07:49
+4 -2
Permanent Registrar will be next.
Rgnulite 23 May 2020, 07:50
+7 -1
Great coverage! The fact that he and other members of the University have resigned shows that something is fishy. The resignation coming at such an odd timing, when college is suspended, makes it more suspicious.
guest8 23 May 2020, 07:57
+12 -0
Lol. Reminds me of Nandimath offering his resignation in 2013 EC meeting when members questioned irregularities in the manner of his registrar appointment.
RGNUL-ite 23 May 2020, 08:02
+8 -0
A calculated move on Jaswal's end indeed! It's now up to the students to counter it. There's no dearth of irregularities on record. Students need to highlight to the government -

1. Financial irregularities;
2. Deliberate delay on part of Jaswal, NLUD VC Ranbir Singh with the aid of the PA to the CJ to get the RGNUL Student Bar Association Constitution approved;
3. Inaccessibility of the Manjit Kaur report on the inquiry into SP Singh's derelict measures including sexual harassment and casteism.

The academic vigor at RGNUL is a joke. The EC ratification of a provision by way of which teachers who organise events are entitled to 40% of the unused funds has proved to be [...]. Jaswal and Naresh Nuts (the temporary Registrar appointed without any notification under emergency powers; continuing under such appointment since the last two years) are bent on taking RGNUL down with them. Jaswal cares not for any reputation of RGNUL anymore. He's bent on exacting vengeance on the institution for not bearing silently with his [...] maladministration.
Insider 23 May 2020, 08:55
+5 -10
Point no.2
Please do not drag ranbir singh, officiating VC, NLU-D into this controversy. He has nothing to do with it.
RGNUL-ite 23 May 2020, 12:00
+7 -2
Ha! Obviously, not a very dependable insider you are.

RS and PSJ are hand in gloves in devising ways to prevent effective student bodies coming into place. Both NLUD and RGNUL need a coordinated movement to ensure that they don't become complacent and suffice for peanuts in the stead of effective SBAs.
Guest 23 May 2020, 09:11
+2 -4
This is planted news by Legally India website and National law college mafia to influence NLU Delhi VC selection. They are crossing all limits of shamelessness. You did the same thing to influence appointment of [...] ahead of senior candidates and incite students to protest. [...] I also want to know whether [...]

[Ed: Moderated for obvious trolling.]
NLUD 23 May 2020, 09:13
+15 -3
Srividhya is now suddenly the frontrunner! Huge blow for TLC lobby. NLUD is celebrating!
Guest 23 May 2020, 09:59
+1 -6
Unfortunately, Srividhya is not even on the shortlist of 3 names finalized by the selection committee. If Jaswal is being pushed out of Rgnul, then he is going to double down on the nlud VC appointment. With the college shut, students cannot effectively organize any protest against his appointment. If anything, PSJ has now become the frontrunner.
Insider 23 May 2020, 17:57
+1 -1
Prof Madhava Menon, Prof. MP Singh, Prof. BS Chimni, Prof. NL Mitra, Prof VS Rekhi were all fromTLCs. They were the founders and builders of the NLUs and also trend-setters. By the way, all the present VCs of NLU (barring VC of NLS, B'luru ) have studied in TLCs. No doubt, NLU alumni should and would head the NLUs. Five years from now, more than 80% NLUs will be having NLU alumni as their VCs.
Guest 23 May 2020, 09:16
+4 -4
Professor Srividhya will now become NLUD VC and the NLSIU>NLUD>NALSAR NIRF ranking will be vindicated.
Hopeful 24 May 2020, 08:27
+11 -0
Optimistic, but unconvinced. Sudhir was a master politician during his appointment saga. Dove into alumni networks to push his name - don't forget, KKV was on the search committee with Datar (the latter's son in an alumnus), and of course Sudhir's own mentor/patron MP Singh. This means, the whole VC search was designed from the get go to select Sudhir. Is it any surprise, that the search criteria conveniently said 10 years as Prof (disqualifying a lot of younger people), and upper-age as 60 (disqualifying a lot of older people well entrenched in the TLC-BCI lobby)? Nandimath tried hard to disrupt through the TLC-BCI lobby, but that ended up a big flop. I mean, lackeys obstructing were countered by Gopal Sankarnarayan (alum) just directly meeting the CJI for lunch and clearing Sudhir's file. All this to say that it was a herculean effort, planned from the very beginning to make Sudhir the Law School VC.

Has there been a similar concerted effort to get Srividya in? In my limited interactions with her, she did not seem very adept at playing the apex-grade political game needed to land a post like NLUD VC. In that case, chances are, a well established TLC-BCI person stands better positioned to be selected.

Just thinking out loud.
Questions? 24 May 2020, 13:38
+2 -1
There seems to be various theories around NLUD VC and none of them seem to be substantiated. A lot of commets say that Dr. Ragavan is not in the top three names recommended. Can someone tell us who are? Also, how does the selection actually take place after the top three names are submitted?

Also, does Dr. Ragavan has any administrative experience? From her profile it seems even in the US system she has none, let alone India. She has been away from India at least since 2001/2002. How will she manage the faculty and non-techning politics and the state government which recetly forced 50% reservation on the university (which RS had been pushing against for 10 years)?

She is a brilliant IP professor, but what NLUD needs is not another great professor/ teacher (at least as a VC) but a very strong administrator.

Additionally, and will appreciate feedback on this - in Sudhir's case he has a strong network in Oxford and Columbia. Dr. Ragavan's US Law School is not even in top 60 in United States. Her previous institution where she spent over 10 years is outside of top 75.

Moreover, Sudhir will be able to tap in the NLS alumni network but being away for India for almost 20 years it may be hard for Dr. Ragavan plus the alumni themselves may prefer to support NLS over NLUD. Unlike NLS where Sudhir will probably hire a lot of younger nlu almnus in the faculty recruitment drive soon, NLUD already has over 40 permnanent faculty with not much scope for new recruitments. Most of them are from traditional law schools and older than Dr. Raghvan. With the inter faculty issues between nlu - non nlud groups already rising and issue between the lobby headed by Bajpai and the one against, it will not be a smooth ride for even a traditional/experienced VC, let alone her.

Also will she make a commitment for 10 years and leave her US job? The other issue is if not her then who? Jaiswal will clearly be a disaster. Vijaykumar, the only other decent choice could not apply. Maybe VC Vivekanandan? Experienced, more dynamic than most others, relatively young. Or maybe SKD - status quo having experience at NLUD at a time when the college was getting established and hiring young faculy, focuding on research.
RealityCheck 24 May 2020, 15:30
+4 -0
Agree with most of this. But what "network in Oxford and Columbia" is Sudhir tapping into? To the best of my knowledge, he's on a reformist zeal on his own terms and inaccessible to the students or much outside advice. I don't think there is any external engagement with anyone, let alone Oxford/Columbia.
Guest 24 May 2020, 15:57
+1 -0
Oxford, Columbia rules and standards can't apply to the NLUs at any level at present. We are just not ready nor equipped. Neither the students nor the faculty nor the admin. More is the pity.
Guest 24 May 2020, 15:57
+5 -1
The three names on the shortlist are PSJ, SKD Rao, and Afzal Wani (from IP University). Ask any faculty member at NLUD. They will confirm. Both Srividhya and VCV were interviewed but are not on the shortlist. These names have been forwarded, in alphabetical order, to the General Council of NLUD, which is headed by the CJI. This body (and not the CJI alone) has to decide which name to choose. This is laid out in the NLUD Act. As insiders know, the faculty tensions at NLUD are not along NLU - non NLU lines. It just happens that all the NLU alum faculty are on the same side. But that side also has many non NLU people. I think forward looking vs. status quoist is the best description. The first group is hoping it is SKD Rao because they are close to him and had a good working equation with him when he was at NLUD. The second group is hoping for PSJ, because they hope that the first group will not be able to work with PSJ and will leave. I don't know who is in GSB's lobby - I thought he is universally disliked. In any case, he is not on the shortlist. PSJ has the best chance amongst the three to make it, principally because he is very close to RS and RS has a track record of placing his friends on VC positions - remember Veer Singh at NALSAR. If PSJ has actually resigned from RGNUL, then he will need to be rehabilitated soon and that is why one may expect RS to throw his weight behind PSJ. I hope I am proved wrong in this prediction though.
Guest 24 May 2020, 18:55
+2 -1
How on earth is Afzal Wani ranked ahead of SR and VCV???
Guest 24 May 2020, 19:10
+4 -0
VCV is a paper tiger whose candidature is only exhorted in LI comments section, but nowhere else, at least when he faces any real competition. If he does well with HNLU, he can apply for these places later. He also lacks clout in Delhi, unlike the other three.
BetterQ 25 May 2020, 07:31
+3 -1
WHO on earth is Afzal Wani?
Google maybe? 25 May 2020, 10:31
+2 -1
One of the most qualified administrators between all the people who have been apparently interviewed. Can you elaborate what is the problem with Wani?
Why not? 25 May 2020, 10:30
+3 -2
Why is it surprising thay Afzal Wani is ranked ahead of SR and VCV? What admibistrative experience does SR has? What does she bring to the table as an administartor (not an academic). Apart from Bennet University and a short stint at IIT-K what is VCV admin experince (and to stretch it even adacdemic).

AW has been at IPU for almost 20 years - as a Dean of Law school twice and before that at ILI dealt with faculty, non-techning staff, the Delhi government and the University bureaucracy. Plus is probably as good a family law teacher and VCV is an IP teacher.

Very honestly, why were you surprised that he is ranked before SR and VCV? Maybe that's one of the issues - we think someone with a flashy degree will come and fix everything wrong with an nlu (actually at nlud its actually not bad compared to most others). We do not need good academicians at law schools - there are enough in every (but at least at nlud). We want people who can support them and implement their ideas. NLUD already has two great IP academics, it does not need a SV to come and add to that. It needs SV to deal with Delhi government to get the 10 crores of grant that nlud gets every years (and after a lot of fight). It needs all the judges (including the CJI or their rep.), the politicians (Singhvi and Jaitely till very recently) to show up for the GC Meetings (which they all have for at least 10 years). It probably needs someone who is okay with their academic career to take a backseat for 5 (or 10) years. Between these three (not discussing the others who were apparantly interviewed) it seems to me that AW may actually be the most qualified.
Guest 25 May 2020, 10:47
+1 -3
Alert: TLC army rooting for Wani here
And the problem? 25 May 2020, 10:55
+2 -0
And the problem with rooting for Wani, if you can explain?
Well. 27 May 2020, 08:00
+2 -2
You can tell from the name. No point being blind to the political realities of the day.
wow 27 May 2020, 15:00
+1 -4
Just saw his [...] profile: http://www.ipu.ac.in/uslls/Professors.php. Will eat a hat if this guy is allowed to become NLUD VC.
@Hopeful 25 May 2020, 08:45
+0 -0
Isn't Gopal Sankaranarayanan related to KKV?
Onlooker 26 May 2020, 02:22
+4 -0
Superbly honest analysis.
In past, some persons have smartly hopped from one NLU to another NLU as VCs because of these kinds of arrangements in place before their joining. Lots of giving and taking are promised before the appointment of a VC in any Indian University, more so in the rotten NLUs which have become pocket burroughs of fixers like RS.
NluD 23 May 2020, 09:21
+3 -0
You owe us a story about our VC appointment Kian. Why have you stopped asking hard questions?
Fortune Teller 23 May 2020, 09:22
+7 -13
Here are the top 5 NLUs ranked by VC quality:

1. NLSIU (Sudhir K)
2. NLUD (Srividhya R, from 1 Jan 2021)
3. RGNUL (Nigam N, from 1 Jan 2021)
4. HNLU (VCV)
5. NLIU (V Vijaykumar)
Baba please 23 May 2020, 15:22
+6 -2
Ranking wale baba again? 2/5 of those are not even appointed yet. I also doubt any HNLU student would agree with that ranking of yours. Why not put in some NLUs with actual good VCs, like GNLU?
GNLU Update 25 May 2020, 10:33
+0 -0
Hey - since you may know about GNLU, can you tell us what's been happening there since the new VC. All we got were negative stories about the last one till recently. An update will be useful for everyone, especially the people taing CLAT this year.
Lumiere 25 May 2020, 12:50
+1 -5
Not the original commentator, but current student. Prof. Kumar has been a marked improvement in every way possible over Patel. He's also been more receptive of student requests. Maybe too early to judge but it is hard for anyone to do worse than Patel
Guest 25 May 2020, 14:32
+5 -2
You are a law student, going to be a lawyer. You can do better than this vague response. "Marked improvement in every way possible" means a whole lot of nothing.
Lumiere 25 May 2020, 15:13
+3 -5
Save your condescension for someone who appreciates it and I'll spare my lawyering skills for someone who can afford it. I cannot possibly grade a brand new VC (or any other administrative head) on a 10 point scale, if that's what you want. We've had less than a year with him, most of it spent on internships. All I can tell you is that he's better than Bimal and has been far more communicative and open to discussions than Bimal ever was.
Guest 25 May 2020, 17:16
+6 -2
So far, only your poor attitude and poor argumentative skills have been on display, no lawyering skills at all. Your second comment's last sentence and your first comment's second sentence do not match. If that's the way you reason or respond, no client would like to hire you, not even those who can afford you. You are exemplifying here most of the things that are wrong with the current crop of NLU students. Low on ability, high on entitlement and attitude.
Lumiere 25 May 2020, 18:05
+3 -5
And yet here you are, arguing with a stoned college kid on LI. You're not coming out on top here, bud.
Guest 25 May 2020, 18:38
+3 -3
Your obsession to be 'on top' indicates need for therapy. Getting stoned clearly isn't helping with that. More indication of how you aren't likely to be of any use to the client.
GT Man 26 May 2020, 16:21
+1 -0
I wonder if Kian and LI Team secretly enjoy such disses and comment wars which have seemingly no relation to the news and are solely ad-hominem. I suspect it must be really trippy moderating them.
Guest 23 May 2020, 09:24
+1 -0
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Guest 23 May 2020, 11:09
+7 -0
Thanks Kian for responding to the nudges and hints. Nowadays, things have to happen elsewhere before you report. You have been tiptoeing around "difficult stories" for a while now. Anyway today is all about PJ. Here is another hint:

PJ wanted to wing his time at RGNUL somehow (mostly with the aid of his contacts in judiciary) till his name got finalized as NLUD VC. Unfortunately, COVID disrupted the process and sent the matter into indefinite limbo. Now RS is himself in a bit of trouble with Delhi labour ministry despite the domicile reservation gambit (which has now ended up in the court). There is a strong possibility that GSB will succeed him. Only PJ had the smarts to outrace GSB.

NUJS previously, and now RGNUL shows that sustained and pointed demands for transparency, especially by students (since significant sections of Faulty and admin are always complicit in sustaining corrupt VCs) can cause disruption in corrupt fiefdoms. PIB then, PJ now. What happens next will be interesting. Will PJ like PIB try to give a post-dated resignation and then get his contacts to internally scuttle his exit. Students need to sustain a push here, else PJ will succeed in bending the EC to his will. It is not just the "persuasive" skills of PJ that gets the EC to rubber stamp but also the plural complicity of several EC members.

If forensic audits are actually pursued without fear or favour, then several NLUs and their VCs (past and present) will come out with pants down. This also brings into question what kind of reviews do the Univ Review Commissions do (when they are even activated) and do their reviews even matter? This also raises troubling questions concerning the role of reps from judiciary and the futility of have CJs and CJIs as Chancellors. Despite star studded ECs etc, VCs and Faulty minions continue to run corrupt administrations with elan.

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/archive/chandigarh/rgnul-cleanest-among-government-residential-varsities-869807

Not so clean https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/patiala/department-launches-probe-into-patiala-law-varsity-finances-88572
Clarification? 24 May 2020, 13:44
+2 -0
How will GSB take over RS? He never applied for the position. Stop being an idiot.
Seriously 25 May 2020, 01:35
+2 -5
Why not simply let students elect one of their own as VC, and let that VC then raise funds, administer, hire faculty and do all the other cool VC stuff. That's the best solution, na?

The law schools where demands for "transparency and merit" were the loudest are faring the worst. CNLU, GNLU and NUJS are all on a downward spiral. Their VCs keep getting worse and worse, student politics is rife and pretty much nothing has happened to the faculty scene. On the contrary the better faculty have steadily slipped away for better pastures.
Out of touch 25 May 2020, 05:48
+1 -0
With Bimal out of the picture, we at GNLU are doing much better than before with the new VC. I don't know what your source of info is, but check it again.
Rgnool 25 May 2020, 07:33
+2 -0
Are you implying that RGNUL has better faculty? Because I'm a student here and the law faculty is a complete and utter joke of the highest degree. I'm so happy that the faculty recruitment will also be looked into by the Punjab government because all you nepotistic products need to be called out and shown your true worth.

Please publish Kian. Even if you want to censor some content.
Guest 25 May 2020, 07:47
+14 -2
For NUJS too, it's not ideal, but much better than what used to be during PIB's time. Going by Legally India's anon venom to gauge the ground level scene is not wise. Several things have improved considerably, and would continue to.
OTP 28 May 2020, 05:13
+6 -12
Errrm..actually not exactly, bud.

Since PIB left, Nujs has cemented itself as the No. 4 choice pretty much. Soon that will perhaps become No. 5, depending on how Jindal or NLUJ continue. Good young faulty members have left and a bunch of dinosaurs have been appointed in their place (Rumour has it another two are looking out). Journals such as the recent one on 'Regulatory Studies' have come out with articles on plankton and seawater, and common author for 70% articles. There has been a series of mess ups in examinations, student association and gradation and only a person living in a cave would think things "have improved". Meanwhile the students continue their time-tested skill of making allegations and letter writing. Yawn.
Guest 28 May 2020, 09:20
+11 -3
@OTP: Only in your anonymous opinion. And that doesn't count. You would obviously point out the bad sides and not the good ones like the Vis win, or students winning international fellowships and Rhodes etc. But whatever floats your boat. I have no intention to engage with anonymous naysayers. We will keep up the good work, you keep up the negative anon barrage. Peace out.
OTP 29 May 2020, 03:10
+2 -10
Good try. There's nothing called "anonymous opinion", just an opinion (though the opinion holder may be anonymous). But I like the whole 'cool' effect with the 'peace out' stuff.

Back to the point, it's telling that the only thing you could think of in trying to defend NUJS' downward slide has been a moot court victory and a rhodes scholarship. Really? I mean by that logic there were two rhodes in 3 years during Bhat's time.

Anyway, the reality is that applicants are increasingly choosing to stay away from NUJS (NLUD being a better draw). At the last CLAT 31 applicants took NLUD / NLUJ over NUJS, thats how many vacancies were there. Recruiters care little for moots and rhodes but they do care about attitude, knowledge and hard work and this last two year period of interregnum and now the new VC have pretty much made the No.4 position pretty certain.
Guest 29 May 2020, 05:09
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When the opinion giver stays anonymous, they can pretty much say anything that lacks substance without being held accountable for it. Just like you are doing. As for examples, you gave some and I gave some. I don't see how your negative one gives a more realistic picture of the institution compared to my positive ones. As for recruiters, are you talking about the same recruiters who have been recruiting the highest number of students from NUJS of all law schools every year during Day Zero? If yes, then clearly they are satisfied with the same qualities that you refer to when it comes to our students. And again, your anonymous opinion saying that the students are otherwise doesn't really matter, because it lacks basis. As for CLAT aspirants, sure some are choosing to stay away, doubtless influenced by the bad press or baseless mudslinging. We are more concerned about the ones who choose to come here. They are clearly benefiting at the end of five years. I do not believe getting a student 20 ranks behind in a single exam that cannot properly judge aptitude to study law anyway is hazardous to the institutional health. It's what they do once they are in law school that counts. And graduate outcome-wise, the university is still doing quite well, no matter whatever you say to the contrary. Neither NLUD nor NLUJ has ever come close to matching that. I would suggest you get a life of your own instead of trying to pull down others in life, or failing that, at least have the guts to put your identity's strength behind your opinion.
OTP 30 May 2020, 03:46
+1 -7
Lets see,

When I point out how NUJS has slipped in preference, slipped in governance, slipped in everything except a big feeling of self-worth it "lacks basis". But when you say its "still doing quite well" this is to be accepted as gospel.

When I point out that applicants pass over NUJS, its "anonymous opinion". But when you acknowledge that applicants pass over NUJS its due to being misguided by "bad press or baseless mudslinging".

Why keep up this charade? Leaving aside your lawyering (which reminds me of the dime-a-dozen lawyers milling around Tis Hazari and their ad nauseam "denials" of plain facts), have you staked your savings on some rosy perception of NUJS?

But coming back to your statement that NUJS is "still doing quite well", if by "doing well" you mean it's a preferred choice for applicants, has an enlightened forward looking VC, publishes quality stuff (or any law-related stuff), attracts good faculty, is improving infrastructure (or even has basic infrastructure), well then then you may as well be in Wonderland.
Guest 30 May 2020, 07:01
+7 -1
Considering you don't have the locus to judge any of that, I am not going to accept your opinion. You don't have to accept mine either. As for who lives in wonderland, let the real world decide that, not LI comments section. The prejudice that is apparent in most of your words is exemplified by the fact that despite the presence of publications like NUJS Law Review and JILS, which happen to be two of the most highly cited student law journals in the country, you clearly find that the university publishes no 'quality stuff or law related stuff'. Whether I've staked my prospects with NUJS' well-being is a different matter, but it is apparent to everyone that you have staked yours in bad-mouthing the place, often exceeding limits of rational arguments. As I said before, you should really get a life. As for the VC, I am not claiming we have got a Sudhir or a Ranbir Singh, but you are clearly hell-bent on making personal attacks about people, safely cloaked in your anonymity. Regarding decent faculty, unless you are a student or an alumnus, you have absolutely no locus to decide. Incidentally, I have met a lot of the faculty from both NLSIU and NLUD (I refer to these two because I happened to name their VCs earlier, for no other reason) and spoken with their students too. They have bad apples of their own, and good ones. Just like we do. I haven't seen their students being substantially better than ours, so obviously the difference in faculty quality isn't as much as you claim. And of course your claims lack basis. You generalise, use individual illustrations to arrive at wide-arching conclusions about institutions, make statements about recruiters without having any data in support (where in fact contrary data exist), make personal attacks on people from an institution, all the while safe in your anonymity. If you are actually or had been associated with NUJS in some form, your sort is perhaps the only major thing that's wrong with the place. If you are/were associated with some other institution, you are obviously so insecure that your digestive system functions only by bad-mouthing others. In any case, you are welcome to your opinion and ideas, not that they actually have any relation with reality.
Guest 30 May 2020, 09:18
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Bhai, dono chup ho jao, OTP and other guy. This isn't a thread about NUJS. Give it a rest or take it to other threads that are actually relevant for this pointless exchange. You people, noojie-baiters and defenders alike, bas kahin pe bhi suru ho jate ho!
Update 25 May 2020, 10:39
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Hey, since you seem to know a lot, can you tell us what is the limbo that RS is in with the labour ministry?

Because if you are referring to this (https://www.livelaw.in/news-updates/labour-ministry-of-delhi-urges-nlu-d-university-to-negotiate-for-100-retention-of-housekeeping-staff-updated-153924) all it says that the ministry has urged nlud to negotiate or to come up with a new contract.

Also, can you please enlighten us on the role that labour ministry plays in the running of nlud including its finances? Also, please share more on why the reservation was a gambit (you seem to suggest that nlud/RS wanted it, planned it to maybe in good books of government?).

As has already been asked how will GSB be the next VC? You understand that there is an application process, a shortlist was made, people were called for interviews and GSB was not among them?

Maybe either know what is happening or just go and generally be safe in the quarantine.
Guest 23 May 2020, 11:12
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What about PJ suppressing a sexual harassment matter involving a known faculty acolyte? PJ had tried to facilitate his acolyte's move to NLU Nagpur previously with the help of the VC there and also Registrar Nuts here.
Guest 23 May 2020, 11:43
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Congratulations to Professor Srividhya Raghavan for becoming the next VC of NLUD.
Guest 23 May 2020, 11:47
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If he has resigned who will be the next VC? Nandimath? Or maybe Vivekanandan will leave Chhatisgarh for Punjab?
NLUD 23 May 2020, 15:26
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Thr possibility of VCV leaving HNLU is low as he wouldn't have taken the appointment just to leave it after a few months. Moreover, I have heard really good things from people in HNLU about him. He had introduced many reforms in HNLU.
Guest 23 May 2020, 15:53
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Such as? And would someone tell me once and for all what makes this guy a good candidate for VC? All he's headed so far are places like Bennett and those are not exactly reputable institutions. Frankly, [...] his earlier institutes like IIT KGP, which he was in for a rather short period to be fair, but people can and do change for the better often.
Guest 23 May 2020, 18:01
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Oh please yes. I would like to know anything of substance that VCV has done. Please kindly share.
Onlooker 23 May 2020, 18:28
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VCV is beginning to unfold in HNLU from where very encouraging news are pouring in. He understands the functioning of an NLU and holds a prolific vision of a good law college. He has a good network.
Raymond Holt 23 May 2020, 19:34
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VCV has undertaken the upgrade of the ageing HNLU Infrastructure. He is starting 6 research centres at the college. New permanent faculty is expected next year. And office work in HNLU is being done without any hassles which is a welcome relief from the red tapism which was prevalent earlier. Moot reimbursements are being done smoothly. Exchange programmes are also under consideration. He surely has the vision of take HNLU atleast at par with GNLU.
The Truth 23 May 2020, 12:49
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Legally India is biased and censoring comments in support of Professor Jaswal and against National Law College mafia. You want proof that Professor Jaswal is sincere and honest? When Sir was leaving HNLU students made a request for him not to leave as he was so popular and did so much improvement. Here is the article, reported by Legally India only.

[quote]HNLU Raipur’s students will try to convince vice chancellor professor Paramjit Singh Jaswal today to stay at the college, after he was appointed to join RGNUL Patiala as its new vice chancellor after less than three months into his new job at HNLU....
“He was great I should say,” said the student. “He was doing real good here, we had already seen the difference.”
[/quote]

https://www.legallyindia.com/lawschools/hnlu-raipur-fights-to-stop-rgnlu-poaching-3-month-old-vc-20110201-1753
Guest 23 May 2020, 13:23
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https://www.amarujala.com/chandigarh/rgnul-patiala-vc-prof-paramjit-singh-resigned
Guest 23 May 2020, 14:11
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As a regular reader of legallyindia, the timing, tone and intent of the article is not new. LI followed the same gameplan it had for Sudhir. Srividhya, you got a cheerleader in Kian!
No Use 25 May 2020, 10:57
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But in Sudhir's case it happened before the interviews and continued till after. SV wasnot among the three names forwarded by the selection committee. So even if what you say is true, it is of no use for her
True? 27 May 2020, 08:04
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Is it confirmed that Srividya is NOT on the shortlist?
Guest 23 May 2020, 15:43
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Google translate of Amar Ujala article:

Vice Chancellor Prof. Rajiv Gandhi National University of Law (RGNUL) Punjab, Patiala. Paramjit Singh Jaswal has resigned. It is believed that some people from the university and outside were trying to tarnish his image. Tired of this, he sent his resignation to the Punjab-Haryana High Court on Wednesday. 

According to sources, last year, there was a strike in RGNUL for more than 15 days. Funding was done by some people from Patiala and Chandigarh to continue that strike. During this time some of the Vice Chancellor's people had a dispute. Even after this he resigned but was not accepted.  
There was a dispute in the registrar case 
Apart from this, there was a dispute about the post of Registrar. According to sources, he refused to give extension to a registrar. He wanted to give charge to a teacher but he was charged with many charges. After this, his image was being tainted through Twitter etc. 

Pro. Paramjeet has many offer 
sources say that his name is also in the forefront for the post of Vice Chancellor of National Law University Delhi. Apart from this, he has offers from many other universities for the post of Vice Chancellor. At the same time, when Prof. When I tried to contact Paramjeet about this, his phone got locked. 
9 23 May 2020, 17:15
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I am shocked that a reputed newspaper like Amar Ujala is alleging that there was a conspiracy to defame PSJ and that RGNUL students got bribe money from his rivals to go on strike. This is a very serious charge against the students and a response must be given.
RGNUL Tea-maker 23 May 2020, 18:01
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But, they were certainly instigated by some disgruntled faculty and their pampered students... Not saying that RJ did not commit some mistakes.
Guest 23 May 2020, 18:30
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https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/law-varsity-under-punjab-government-scanner-after-cag-finds-irregularities-in-its-functioning/story-Rp7qZnc6h0zP5cKxLgso2J.html

Will be interesting to know who were the EC and FC members who approved (rubber stamped?) the works and amounts that CAG red flagged. Why aren't the students demanding access to complete records of EC, FC, AC, infra committee etc records? Be assured paperwork will magically disappear, "poor record" keeping will be cited and other excuses to ensure that the paper trail goes cold thus sabotaging any robust case against PJ and Co.

HPNLU, you know what you have to do. There is no empirical and conclusive evidence that the fairer sex are less corrupt. And it's a duet anyway. Demand forensic audit and access to records.

Amar Ujala needs to be taken to task. It either produces info about the bribery slur on students else it needs to prominently issue an apology.
Guest 23 May 2020, 21:20
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www.tribuneindia.com/news/punjab/vacation-in-varsities-but-patiala-institute-announces-exams-82759

www.tribuneindia.com/news/patiala/after-government-snub-rgnul-reverses-decision-over-conducting-of-exams-83433
Guest 23 May 2020, 22:19
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https://www.dainiktribuneonline.com/2020/05/%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%89-%E0%A4%AF%E0%A5%82%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%9F%E0%A5%80-%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%9F%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B2%E0%A4%BE-%E0%A4%95/

Oh God. PJ is claiming that work under the Punjab and Haryana HC and therefore needn't bother about what the govt has to say. Interestingly, the same HC had earlier come up with dubious arguments to deny students access to the inquiry report against SPS. The "Chancellor" who oversaw the appointment of PJ is a recent but (in)famous parliamentarian. This HC also loaned judicial officers to the SC who took the lead in the horrible suppression and distortion of a sexual harassment complaint against the aforementioned parliamentarian.

The HC is again manufacturing excuses here again on the issue of PJ resignation. Guess they are trying to facilitate a compromise, which at a minimum involves PJ to continue as caretaker VC till a successor is "found". This successor will likely be someone who will ensure that the ills of PJ and Co are hushed up. Business as usual shall continue again.

Want an example? Look East. NUJS.

Corrupt VC and their minions will continue. Kian it is time to scrutinize the EC members and their workings, especially the reps from Judiciary who are actually given a wide berth by state govt reps. What is the point of having the former when their presence cannot guard against corruption and/or they are complicit?
Guest 23 May 2020, 22:25
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Isn't the bar being set low for VCV? I don't have anything against him. Certainly he is way better than DukhRam. While VCV is not obligated to witch hunt DukhRam minions, the latter continue without consequences. Surely DukRam couldn't have pulled off without collaborators. Will VCV agree to initiate a through review and forensic audit? It can be made a part of Univ Review Commission. Or will he come up with the usual excuses?
Guest 24 May 2020, 03:44
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Amar Ujala is giving 100% correct news unlike biased LI and English medias. A few indisciplined students with political ambition got money from politicians and rival group to do protest. NLU lobby is supporting these student because they want to see takeover of NLUs by NLU products breaking rule of seniority.
Rgnool 24 May 2020, 12:11
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If you think there's something known as rule of seniority, need to get your head out of your ass.
Guest 24 May 2020, 04:04
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Besides Sudhir and Srividhya, other NLSIU alumni with a shot at becoming VC are Sandeep Gopalan, Deepa Badrinarayan and Shyam Balganesh. All teaching abroad at professor rank for some years now.
Guest 24 May 2020, 07:17
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... And all just waiting for non-descript NLUs to leave their well playing jobs, and uproot their families from first world countries to come to a land with a failing economy and a far-right government firmly in place (eyes, well and truly, rolling, in case someone did not catch my drift).
Insider 25 May 2020, 07:13
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Would not be too sure. Loads of alum from Law School have been wanting to join Sudhir from well paying universities abroad. All one needs to look at is the names on his recent recruitment drive
Guest 25 May 2020, 07:48
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What names? So far apart from rumors, nothing else has been revealed. If you are an insider, go ahead. Name a few of those paragons.
Trying to look 25 May 2020, 10:45
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Hi - trying very hard to look. I would say I have decent research skiils also, but could not find these anywhere.

Does anyone really actually even know what is happening? The two names people at NLS kept taking and were most excited about were MS and AC from NLU Delhi. Both have confirmed that they are not leaving (and didn't even apply I think).

That is not to say, he will not attract some good young faculty but let's not say that people will uproot their life and come running to nagarbhavi (especially since Sudhir maybe be gone in 5 years or 10), for them it'll be a tenure job (unlike him - he's not a faculty at NLS).
Kuch Bhi 25 May 2020, 08:08
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What is the point of just throwing out names. Maybe we can get Robert Post or Martha Minnow also no?

Sandeep was Dean at Deakin, is now a VC at a University. Why will he ever come to a public university here. Shyam is a tenure Professor at Penn and he will leave that and come here? Also, weird is that he won't even qualify for VC in India because he has been Professor only for 6 years till now. Deepa again does not meet the 10 years rule but also apart from Sandeep what qualifications as administrator do they have? With Shyam you can argue the Penn/ Yale network (since he did his JD). Deepa did her LLM/PhD from Pace which is ranked 136 and is now at Chapman which is at 111. While individually she may be great - but what does she get to a law school?

Jindal recently was ranked in 100-150 (though different ranking), so by that logic everyone at Jindal should be a VC? and probably at NLS because that was in top 200.
Guest 25 May 2020, 08:48
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Exactly. These trolls are just doing what they do best.
Guest 24 May 2020, 07:50
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Amar Ujala is the fourth-highest read newspaper in India. Will RGNUL students complain to the Press Council against Amar Ujala? Or at least give a statement denying the allegation that they got external funding to protest? The report gives a very bad impression of RGNUL students to the lay public.
RGNUL-ite 24 May 2020, 14:44
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That the VC and the Registrar (yes, we know that these are the only 'sources' who would propound such ludicrous allegations) choose to demean their own students is all the more reason for students to throw these idjits out and save their University.

The AG of Punjab came to the University and apologised for violation of due process in the suspension and violation of privacy of students.

SP Singh was suspended and an inquiry instituted by a magistrate, with a report produced ('Manjit Kaur Inquiry Report') which has till date been suppressed by the University.

The NCW took Suo Motu cognizance after the Mediation Agreement (surreptitiously via a second page which wasn't disclosed to general student body by the admin) asked students to retract their complaint. The NCW findings are in public domain for everyone to see about gross violations.

Multiple RTI responses have evinced maladministration.

Students get no information about financials of their own University. The little the University started disclosing after the protest is barely disclosure.

After all this - do students still need to be paid to protest. Amar Ujala ought to have asked for proof. Highly irresponsible journalism. The editors and the journalists should be taken to task.
Harsh Reality 24 May 2020, 07:51
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Stalwarts like Dr. Jaswal always face baseless criticism. He is a maverick in all spheres of life and the sole factor in making RGNLU, an institute of reckoning at the national level.

Guys, have an open mind and learn from what he has done for the institute. Can any of you get up and do this in such a short span of time! It’s easy to find faults but not easy to talk about the positives of a person.

Re: thought process of Education Department, lesser said about the Babus and their mentality, the better. Wish they matured with the changing times and stopped meddling with others’ affairs! Any genuine clarifications, if not already done, would be duly addressed. Talking of Babus, do read Chetan Bhagat’s blog of May 24, on convulated govt. circulars.

If you are a true and honest person, you would stand united with your faculty in these hard times and come out stronger. Anything less than that would give ammunition to outsiders to play around and make a mockery of you.
Guest 25 May 2020, 09:50
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Well, FIRST of all, you got the name of the university wrong in your first paragraph. RGNUL and not RGNLU.

Second, saying that "Don't be negative, he's doing his best" is something you can say to a small child trying to colour within the lines using crayon and not the head of a university, where hundreds of students study and are affected by all decisions. PSJ should be less sensitive, the responsibility and pressure comes with the job. If he wanted to sit and keep mucking about, he should have stayed at that small time private college where he was in the past.
Guest 24 May 2020, 07:53
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The Amar Ujala report is circulating online. Readers who are not aware are blaming the students and supporting Jaswal.
Guest 24 May 2020, 10:15
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Legally India is trying to incite young students into anarchy like JNU. Viewpoint of administration is never given by this website.
Guest 24 May 2020, 10:19
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PSJ v students is just another battle in the TLC-NLU war. I would like to warn the TLC autocrats that they will be defeated just like it happened at NLSIU.
Guest 24 May 2020, 15:04
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Srividhya Raghavan is very much the frontrunner for NLUD VCship. Ignore the fools commenting here.
Guest 24 May 2020, 15:56
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Including yourself?
Frontrunner? 25 May 2020, 10:48
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frontrunner without being in the three names forwarded to the GC? That will be something if that happens (and challenged in courts and won because NLUD act provides for a procedure).
Guest 24 May 2020, 16:26
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UPDATE: A strongly worded response is being drafted to the false and defamatory Amar Ujala report.
Amar Ujala who? 24 May 2020, 18:10
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For the two lines of misinformation? Don't play into the University's hands. Focus on PSJ. [...]
Guest 24 May 2020, 23:43
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If GSB has not been shortlisted for NLUD then he is definitely a contender for RGNUL should PJ resign. This was rumoured to happen anyway because the assumption was PJ would succeed RS at NLUD.
Why show ignorance? 25 May 2020, 10:50
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You realise that GSB was not even called for an interview, let alone shortlisted for the finals. You realise he has [...] at NLUD (also had at NLIU), and was removed from NLIU after an inquiry by a HC Judge.

He is not a law professor, does not have a law degree. Has no clout in Punjab Government or P&H HC. Maybe realise that its not as much a cabal (except for when RS wants) as we all try and make it.
Guest 25 May 2020, 07:55
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I stand with Amar Ujala and oppose the students. The students have not guts to do any complaint against media because I will then leak the true facts to the media: whether students are illicitly doing drinking and drugs, doing ragging, doing indiscipline etc. You are asking for Professor Jaswal to resign. In that case, the college also has the right to sack you for illegal acts.
Guest 25 May 2020, 08:46
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Toh kar na, Maamu! Kisne roka hai tujhe? Blackmail blackmail kyun khel raha hai? If students are doing any illegal act, it's the admin's duty to address that and hold them accountable. Not doing so is as much admin's fault as that of the students actually involved in such acts.
Guest 25 May 2020, 08:01
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I know names of 4 people who have applied for NLSIU faculty positions. All are alumni of NLSIU or other NLUs. The biggest nightmare of the TLC lobby is if they join, plus if other NLUs suddenly face student demands to have NLU alumni as VC and faculty. Right now the TLC mafia does not even like NLU alumni giving guest lecture.
Guest 25 May 2020, 08:47
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You are not getting to be boring. Either name the people, or go light a diya wishing them success. Shoo!
Guest 25 May 2020, 08:52
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Applied or selected? Anyone can apply. The question is who has been selected. Remember last time NLS did a whole charade of recruitments and then did not recruit anyone. It is quite likely that they did not get anyone good this time also. That is why they are delaying the process to ultimately scrap it. Its all well and good to say that the delay has been caused due to the lockdown, but it is hard to believe that in 2 months of lockdown Sudhir hasn't managed to hold a EC meeting online. Especially after the rush job he did on the recruitment application and interview process. At that time he went around saying that he is rushing the process so that people can join for the new academic term. Now the new term is only about a month away and he still hasn't finalised the selection? From the outside it looks like he is big on talk, short on action. Either that, or he is looking for a way to wriggle out of the selection process.
Agreed 27 May 2020, 08:08
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As a Law Schoolite, its about time people raised a hue and cry. What the hell is Sudhir doing wrt to recruitment? Every single thing is online in Law School now. Exams, projects, classes, feedback. Why on earth can't a simple EC meeting be held online? Or by circulation? If there's any credibility left in this recruitment circus, at least put out the names.
Guest 27 May 2020, 08:54
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Aww... Sudhir isn't turning out to be superman who'd bring miraculous transformation and change the system for the better that people couldn't do so far? What a surprise! Serves right for all the advocates of idolising individuals when the problem is systemic. The foreign degrees and publications of the VC not being able to do the job now, are they?
Guest 27 May 2020, 09:45
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Spot on! Let the Sudhir-Bhakts admit that their blind worshipping was wrong.
Agreed 28 May 2020, 08:16
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For what its worth, wasn't a Sudhir bhakt to begin with. I'm more of a Venkata Rao fangirl.
NLS Alumnus 27 May 2020, 12:36
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The comments being made about the NLSIU faculty recruitments are clearly uninformed. I just spoke to some current faculty members (including those who have applied for regularisation) to find out what is happening. Here is the sequence of facts for those who still bother with the truth. The interviews were conducted on February 18, 19 and 20 respectively. The Selection Committee for the social science positions (Political Science and Sociology) had credible external members such as Ajay Gudavarthy and Anuj Bhuwania. Interviews were not conducted for History owing to a low number of qualified applicants. So the History position is likely to be re-advertised. The interviews for the Law positions (Assistant Professor, Associate Professor, Professor) had a very strong selection committee, with experienced names such as Prof. N.S. Gopalakrishnan, Prof. Kamala Sankaran and Prof. Poonam Saxena serving as the external members. The Selection Committees had submitted their recommendations soon thereafter. The NLSIU Executive Council (EC) was scheduled to meet in New Delhi on February 28, 2020 to ratify these selections. However, several SC Judges who are on the EC had contracted Swine-Flu around that time and CJI Bobde had postponed the EC meeting to March 15, 2020. Unfortunately, the COVID-19 situation had started building up and by Mid-March the students at NLSIU were being asked to return home. No one in their right mind could have expected Sudhir to hold the EC meeting in that situation and it was postponed again.

The unanswered question now is why has the EC meeting not been conducted so far. For starters, the EC consists of representatives from four stakeholders, (1) Higher Judiciary, (2) Bar Councils, (3) Government of Karnataka and (4) Permanent Faculty at NLSIU. So it is quite possible that CJI Bobde has simply not given a date for holding the meeting as yet. A physical meeting would be difficult to organise anytime soon owing to the risks associated with inter-city travel. An online meeting can only happen if the SC Judges and the Bar Representatives consent to the same. So instead of berating Sudhir here on this forum, the interested parties should perhaps write to him directly and suggest that he proposes an online meeting to all the members. This is easier said than done. Apart from formally approving the faculty recruitments, the NLSIU EC also needs to take a call on the implementation of the domiciliary quotas and review several issues related to the financial health of the institution.

Those who are asking for the names of the selected candidates to be publicised are clearly not aware of how public institutions work. Disclosing the names prior to formal approval by the EC could lead to more frivolous litigation by unsuccessful candidates and unwarranted allegations of favouritism and bias. Furthermore, it would be unfair to the selected candidates themselves since it is their personal decision as to whether they should join NLSIU or continue at their present institutions.

Lastly, the mythical claims about the existence of 'Sudhir-Bhakts' and blind beliefs in his abilities need to be debunked. No one was arguing that he can single-handedly change the course of the institution. Alumni and students had mobilised in his support because his name had been duly recommended by the Search-cum-Selection Committee (consisting of Dr. M.P. Singh, Mr. K.K. Venugopal and Mr. Arvind Datar) but some senior professors and BCI members were intentionally delaying the procedural requirements. It was evident to everyone that there are several issues that need to be addressed, ranging from rampant financial corruption, hiring of several sub-standard teachers in ad-hoc positions and the neglect of basic academic processes under the previous V-C. Restoring the academic and fiscal health of the institution is an ongoing process and decisive steps have been taken in that direction. The present students of course have their own immediate grievances with Sudhir since he will not continue the 'Yes, Permitted' culture. They are given a fair opportunity to express their views and have to get used to a Vice-Chancellor who will also ask them difficult questions in return. This round of faculty recruitments is of course an important step in restoring a semblance of academic standards. So let us wait and see who ends up joining.
Guest 27 May 2020, 13:48
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A lot of what you have said is well reasoned and hopefully a lot of the readers shall agree. However, this statement - "No one was arguing that he can single-handedly change the course of the institution. [i][b]Alumni and students had mobilised in his support because his name had been duly recommended[/b][/i] by the Search-cum-Selection Committee (consisting of Dr. M.P. Singh, Mr. K.K. Venugopal and Mr. Arvind Datar) but some senior professors and BCI members were intentionally delaying the procedural requirements" - (especially the highlighted bit) is a re-writing of history.
NLS Alumnus 27 May 2020, 14:13
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Dear Guest: It is not a rewriting of history. It is how things transpired. Let me remind you that the Search-cum-Selection Committee had interviewed the applicants for the NLSIU V-C position in Delhi on May 8, 2019. They had submitted three shortlisted names with a clear order of preference, namely (1) Sudhir Krishnaswamy, (2) Shashikala Ghurpure and (3) Sri Krishna Deva Rao. The NLSIU EC meeting held on July 6, 2019 was supposed to confirm the recommended candidate. However, owing to objections raised by some NLSIU faculty members, Justice Bobde (as he then was) had organised a second round of interactions with the 3 shortlisted candidates on July 23, 2019. This led to a reiteration of the recommendation to appoint Sudhir. However, some senior Professors at NLSIU (namely Dr. M.K. Ramesh, O.V. Nandimath and V.S. Elizabeth) colluded with BCI members and did not sign the letters that were circulated to gather consent for the appointment. Since this process dragged into September 2019, the Alumni and students mobilised publicly to demand the completion of the appointment process. The fact that students resorted to a class/exam boycott had more to do with their frustration with the Interim Administration. As I wrote in the previous comment, I am in touch with many current students and they have had their own reservations and disagreements with Sudhir's decision-making, especially due to some cost-cutting and austerity measures in campus management. So he is not exactly a popular V-C at the moment. However, it is too presumptive of commentators here to run him down for the delay in the faculty recruitment process. If it is such an urgent matter, then these commentators should write to the EC members and request them to hold an online meeting so that the University's regular functioning does not suffer.
Guest 27 May 2020, 16:20
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I did not disagree with you on the other things you wrote first up (re: Sudhir's functioning as VC and the urgency being called for here). My only reservation was that the last para came across as different from my recollection of events. Now that your second post has clarified that the students began mobilizing before his name was accepted and while his was one of three recommendations, I am in agreement with you.
Guest 25 May 2020, 09:30
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It will be very helpful if LI does an audit of how many NLU alumni versus TLC alumni are teaching at each NLU, including visiting lecturers. This information can be given by the student body reps and can be complied in just 2 or 3 days.
Guest 25 May 2020, 12:57
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Which would serve no purpose, since not all the NLU alumni teaching at different places are good researchers or teachers, nor all the people from other law colleges who are teaching at different places bad ones. I speak as a student of an NLU and one who has taught briefly at two. Good or bad teachingv ability does not depend upon the university from where you have graduated.
Guest 25 May 2020, 13:12
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1. To what end?
2. Various LI comments threads have done that over the last couple of years. If you just wish to have the info, search them up. If the ends you seek are different, then kindly share with us as well.
Guest 25 May 2020, 11:39
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I think a big expose is coming on LI soon regarding corruption in NLUD VC selection!
Guest 25 May 2020, 13:14
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Do you have a vested interest at LI that you are giving us the teaser to this upcoming expose? Let it come, we'll and react then. Fail to see the point of your comment.

@Kian - is that you BTW?
Corruption by? 25 May 2020, 17:56
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Hi can you update on what kind of corruption. According to this story (https://www.legallyindia.com/lawschools/big-shoes-to-fill-nlu-delhi-constitutes-hunting-party-for-ranbir-singh-s-very-attractive-vc-job-20190930-10886) there is a selection committee constituted (with the then senior most judge of the HC) by the EC.

11 people were invited for the interview after the shortlist. Three names have been sent to the GC and the selection will be done by the GC headed by CJI. A little confused who among all these is corrupt? ANd genuingly asking because if that is the case I am sure the students will want to do seomthing
Guest 25 May 2020, 18:39
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His brain cells are the only corrupt thing in this equation.
Guest 26 May 2020, 11:43
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Prof Jaswal is highly acclaimed academician and known for his honesty, integrity and uprightness. No doubt any institution which has built its state of art infrastructure has to submit the audited accounts of utilisation to the government and government in turn must insist for the same. However, keeping in view the impeccable nature and highly professional acumen he would come out unblemished and shall account for the expenditure incurred on the national university's infrastructure before demitting the office of VC.
old school 26 May 2020, 11:51
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what is happening with our law students? are these students of a professional course (whose parents are paying a bomb) or activists from JNU? leave the faculty and administration alone, focus on studies, get your degree and leave. everyday there seems to be something or the other at different law schools.

P.S. I was in the first batch of nalsar, we didn't even have classrooms, hardly anybody ever complained and got on with things.
Guest 26 May 2020, 15:56
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It is because the parents are paying a 'bomb', that the students are seeking accountability, fiscal and otherwise, when the authority figures are busy having a 'blast' instead of living up to their promises. The fact that you didn't even have a university building while studying in a fledgling law school, does not mean that students who are now paying much more than you had done, cannot demand facilities, services and education commensurate to their money's worth.
Guest 27 May 2020, 05:48
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We're sorry you were too meek to question your authorities for the two bushels of rice and an old leather belt that you paid for tuition back in 1915.

The times have changed, people are having to take loans to pay the obscene fees (nearly two lakhs) being charged and they have every right to question the authorities. This is not being anti-establishment for the sake of being anti-establishment, but merely seeking to ensure that the hard earned money being paid is being utilized in the correct manner.
Guest 26 May 2020, 18:46
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A very detailed piece including some additional points https://livelaw.in/news-updates/rgnul-under-govt-scanner-following-cag-reports-on-financial-irregularities-157355

As with DukhPal at HNLU, PJ also extracted a second tenure illegally.
Guest 26 May 2020, 18:50
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https://livelaw.in/news-updates/rgnul-under-govt-scanner-following-cag-reports-on-financial-irregularities-157355

Kian, please update this story or write a fresh piece which digs deep on the issue of illegal second term of PJ. Is this similar to what had happened at HNLU?
Guest 27 May 2020, 03:40
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Why is it not a "student issue" when we demand accountability and transparency in how are fees are calculated/revised (almost always upwards) and spent? Majority of the operational costs of all NLUs are financed by student fees. When scams take place, enhanced student fees or surpluses that somehow survived [...] admins, are used to square the books. Auditors are mostly jokers who whitewash without suffering consequences. And when [...] get exposed, EC members and powers that be including in the exalted judiciary ensure that things are hushed up since there are "images" to be protected.

Is opacity an inherent part of our sanskar? To not speak truth to power? Hypocrisy is our sanskar.
Guest 27 May 2020, 15:53
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Wait. Wasn't this story about PJ. Sure we can talk/discuss about more of the same. Since the story was about PJ, do we have any confirmation whether his supposed resignation has been accepted or are we getting more of DukhPal variety whereby PJ gets to stick around till 2021? That will also mean he gets to make papers disappear and blame poor record keeping, a common excuse across NLU administrations.
Guest 27 May 2020, 17:21
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The anti-Sudhir posters are either TLC trolls, or trolls from other NLUs jealous that NLSIU has an alumni VC who is very smart and has good qualifications.
Guest 28 May 2020, 03:06
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https://www.barandbench.com/news/nlsiu-alumni-have-raised-money-to-fly-180-migrants-back-home-tomorrow-heres-how-they-did-it

Agreed that BB founder is from NLS. But LL and mainstream media also covered this https://www.livelaw.in/news-updates/nlsiu-alumni-network-raises-funds-to-lease-chartered-air-asia-flight-from-mumbai-to-ranchi-to-airlift-stranded-migrant-workers-157385?infinitescroll=1

https://www.telegraphindia.com/states/jharkhand/180-jharkhand-migrants-to-fly-in-from-mumbai/cid/1776476

How did you miss this?
i studied at rgnul 28 May 2020, 11:54
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This makes me so happy. Paramjit Jaswal has to be exposed for his wrongdoings.

The "vc" of Rgnul never ever did anything for the benefit of his students; students have been hard working (our seniors batchmates and juniors) tried their best to go participate at diff events, competitions and some have even gone on to study at the best universities of llm, sadly, at every turn thy were discouraged by the admin and the vc - we were offered NO support. At every turn we were put down and discouraged from participation. Whatever they (admin and vc and few faculty members in power) did, they did for their "fav" students.

I wish for a day when my uni becomes more transparent and is less interested in robbing their students.

the lid on the atrocities at rgnul is barely open.

Please be aware before hiring him
Guest 28 May 2020, 15:50
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https://www.barandbench.com/apprentice-lawyer/nuals-students-write-to-kerala-hc-chief-justice-kerala-cm-and-others-seeking-requesting-fee-relief-in-view-of-covid-19-crisis

Kian, you missed this as well. Didn't this university mess but also make huge profits when it was convenor of CLAT earlier? Two previous VCs here reportedly had financial mismanagement charges on them but were quietly allowed to go.
Guest 28 May 2020, 15:52
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Has PJ quit? Can anyone confirm that. Because I totally don't expect this man to leave. There is so much left to be hollowed out.
Guest 29 May 2020, 16:55
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https://livewire.thewire.in/gender-and-sexuality/a-dive-into-the-dirty-world-of-indias-dating-coaches/

The brazenness of this "entrepreneurial" Noojie amazes me.
Guest 29 May 2020, 17:30
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Clickbait comment. The article has got nothing with the NUJS alumnus or the university, apart from the fact that the Lawsikho webinar led to the authors' investigation of this matter. Ignore this troll.
Guest 29 May 2020, 17:36
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I was more amazed by the brazenness of Gopal S. about jumping to condemn everyone other then his own fellow alumni when it comes to gender related crimes, violence, harassment etc. Even when the controversy about SH inside NLSIU campus had broken out, or Lawrence Liang had been convicted by the ICC, none of these people had bothered to tweet, wield their considerable influence to ensure that the perpetrators get punished etc. These are all cliques, some of the Bhakts, some of these so called liberal intelligentia, all are hypocrites when it comes to criticising or condemning their own.
Guest 29 May 2020, 19:40
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Spot on! Nobody would move a muscle to criticise their own, regardless of whichever side of the fence they belong to.
Guest 29 May 2020, 20:24
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Spot on. Not even a single SJW from NLSIU has spoken about Lawrence Liang.
Guest 30 May 2020, 01:53
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Just like no one from NUJS called out "their own" after this webinar. Not suggesting that Liang should be let off the hook. But there is something karmic going on I guess. Liang misses out on FB while Messiah acquires more Teflon. Then again, interesting things keep getting discovered about Teflon. Explains why Du Pont quietly let it go.
Guest 30 May 2020, 06:46
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Actually, a lot of NUJS alumni did exactly that. Calling out the webinar. Including on social media. Just because you didn't get to see it doesn't mean that it didn't take place.