RMLNLU debut batch opts for bench; Amarchand, ICICI recruit most

RMLNLU hostels: Palatial. RMLNLU: Unpronouncable.
RMLNLU hostels: Palatial. RMLNLU: Unpronouncable.
Exclusive: At least 13 students in the very first graduating batch of RMLNLU Lucknow will be joining desk-based jobs, has placed out of which three were pre-placement offers (PPOs).

In Ram Manohar Lohia National Law University (RMLNLU) Lucknow’s batch of 71 students graduating, 54 participated in the formal recruitment process.

Among law firms Amarchand Mangaldas was the biggest recruiter, hiring two students, while ICICI Lombard hired two and PricewaterhouseCoopers one student into the corporate sector.

Nine students would be pursuing judicial clerkships in the Punjab & Haryana High Court, while five students had been shortlisted for Supreme Court judicial clerkships.

Professor K.A. Pandey, as faculty-in charge of RMLNLUs placement committee, confirmed the figures (see table) and noted that a other recruiters were in the process of hiring further students at the moment.

According to sources from RMLNLU, Nishith Desai Associates, Lexis Nexis and HDFC Bank were some of the organisations that were continuing to be recruiting at the moment aiming to hire a few more students.

Sources also added that at least three or four other offers were made by legal process outsourcing companies (LPOs) but not accepted by students.

Pandey added that at least two students would be joining NLS IU Bangalore to pursue LLM degrees while a few other students had attempted the Common Law Admissions Test for further study and might join other Indian universities.

Franklin Pierce Law Centre New Hampshire and Society for African and Oriental Studies (SOAS) London are the foreign universities that have offered places to RMLNLU students for Masters’ degrees. One student also received an offer from University College London (UCL) but the offer was rejected, according to campus sources.

In addition to students joining law firms, corporate houses and at least 15 other students were preparing for the civil or judicial services exams while one student has cleared the preliminary exam of the Madhya Pradesh civil services.

The Campus Recruitment page contains all officially reported campus recruitment stories to date, including:

RMLNLU Lucknow recruitment 2011 batch

Name of recruiting organisationNumber of students recruited
Amarchand Mangaldas2
Clasis Law Delhi (formerly ALMT Legal)1 (PPO)
Association for Advocacy and Legal Initiatives1
ICICI Lombard2
Juris Legal and Financial Services1
Karanjawala & Co1 (PPO)
Neeraj & Associates1
Pangea31
PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC)1 (PPO)
SJ Law1
Larsen and Toubro (L&T)1
Punjab & Haryana High Court Judicial Clerkship9

Comments

RAMDEV 13 Jun 2011, 13:46
+8 -0
the condition of law schools after nls,nalsar and nujs is deplorable. morever amss largest recruiter with 2..haha funny. Naughty legally india..u wrote it on purpose, didnt u?
kianganz 13 Jun 2011, 13:52
+16 -0
We believe young national law schools deserve some lee-way and should not necessarily be judged against institutions that have had years to hone their recruitments and have massive alumni networks and brands to fall back on.

Given the above, we are trying to highlight the positive.

If students of the older nationals wish to indulge in mudslinging against each other it is understandable. But new law schools too will hopefully start to come up in time and this seemed like a solid start.

Best regards
Kian
NLU student 13 Jun 2011, 15:19
+5 -1
My be u r frm some A grade NLU, but dude the new NLUs are coming to hunt u soon.

remember the dialog frm movie Robin Hood, " Rise and Rise until the lambs become lion"
2012 13 Jun 2011, 19:38
+3 -1
kian will u cover june 27-28 at nujs where all preferred firms have been called by nujs? with 6 firms coming and everyone applying (as per senior) i think everyone in that batch will get placed before college even starts
swasti 13 Jun 2011, 13:59
+2 -0
i second Kian.....u have a long way to go rmlnlu :)
saywhatnow 13 Jun 2011, 14:21
+0 -0
Well said Kian, its time these nlu-ites from the 'hallowed' places grow up a little bit. Keep looking over your shoulder fellas...they'll be hot on your heels. Just you wait
My name is 13 Jun 2011, 14:34
+4 -0
Probably...by biggest recruiter...it couls have also meant..biggest in terms of the recruiter [i.e AMSS amongst law firms ofcourse) and not the number of recruitments made....

Just a different take...nevertheless Kian I echo you thoughts....
RMLNLU 13 Jun 2011, 14:56
+7 -0
The very fact that firms like Amarchand, ALMT and Nishith Desai are there at Rmnlu right in its first year speaks for itself. If I remember correctly, even NLIU and NLU Jodhpur or even NUJS (though I'm not sure about this one) didn't see Amarchand in the debut batch. Its but obvious that the industry is skeptic about the passouts as big money is involved. But then with big names associated right in the first year, trust me guys, I'm taking my firm to recruit or atleast give it a try the next season. I'm sure there'll be at least 10 firms recruiting from this place next year and this would only increase in due course.

Good Going Folks!!
Anonymous comments 13 Jun 2011, 16:15
+2 -0
AMSS took 11 from the first batch of NUJS
walternate 13 Jun 2011, 16:42
+1 -0
[quote name="RMLNLU"]The very fact that firms like Amarchand, ALMT and Nishith Desai are there at Rmnlu right in its first year speaks for itself. If I remember correctly, even NLIU and NLU Jodhpur or even NUJS (though I'm not sure about this one) didn't see Amarchand in the debut batch. [/quote]

While I agree with the spirit of your post, just for the record, NUJS did place a considerable number of students in AMSS and other top tier firms during the recruitment of its first batch.

The advent of so many new law schools has brought the legal fraternity closer than ever before to the ideals of 'social engineering' that were envisaged by Mr Menon. While I hope that every law student gets adequate opportunities to choose his vocation, I cannot help but wonder that the spurt of reasonable quality lawschools will go a long way in bolstering the quality of legal academia and the bar in India.
Decent Takeoff 13 Jun 2011, 17:38
+1 -0
#5.1 and #5.2 Well that is the precise reason why I wrote within brackets that I'm not sure of NUJS.
Anonymous 13 Jun 2011, 19:42
+1 -0
I understand your point but just to clarify facts: NLUJ, NLIU, GNLU and HNLU saw Amarchand placements in right from their earlier batches.

[quote name="RMLNLU"]The very fact that firms like Amarchand, ALMT and Nishith Desai are there at Rmnlu right in its first year speaks for itself. If I remember correctly, even NLIU and NLU Jodhpur or even NUJS (though I'm not sure about this one) didn't see Amarchand in the debut batch. Its but obvious that the industry is skeptic about the passouts as big money is involved. But then with big names associated right in the first year, trust me guys, I'm taking my firm to recruit or atleast give it a try the next season. I'm sure there'll be at least 10 firms recruiting from this place next year and this would only increase in due course.

Good Going Folks!![/quote]
Qua 13 Jun 2011, 15:36
+5 -0
I am glad to see students of such young law schools trying hard to come and make the best out of the legal sector in India. I am an alumni of a national law school, currently employed at a "factory". As a student i used to be part of such RCC and know the problems one has to face in order to achieve those magical figure of placement record. From my personal experience i would like to say that try and hedge your bets, go for small and medium sized firms which are quite a few in number, chances are that these firms might take only through internships, so ensure your internships in fifth year are in firms where you are most likely to get in. Not to undermine your effort, but some "apparently" top notch law firms have their hang-ups about which law school they recruit from, it becomes slightly difficult to get them onto your campus in your first year, however this roadblock can be overcome through PPOs. If you intern in such firms make sure your work is being noticed and most importantly you are giving your best.
Why I insist on small/medium sized firms because there are lot of such firms in cities like Delhi, Mumbai, Bangalore even Chennai and Kolkata; these firms are often overlooked by most of the placement committees probably because they don't add to their snob- quotient, but believe when I say, such firms do give you good work and you can always built upon it. you will find such firms through Legal 500.
Contact companies, especially insurance, private banks, Microfin, Media networks; they all require legal and compliance officers, you will have to be very patient and persistent with them.
I hope its not too late for my opinion and wish you all the best.
P.S.: all current 5th yr students, it is very important where you choose to intern and when you do, give your a sincere and diligent show. Most of the firms judge, be it the so called big fish or the small and medium sized firm, will judge you on the basis of your internship. all the best to you too.
Milinda Sengupta 13 Jun 2011, 15:36
+10 -0
I believe strongly that any merit must be recognised and not disregarded. Little steps go a long way in the marathon run that a University makes in its lifetime. I am glad that I came to RMLNLU, because it feels like I belong here. I can understand the feeling of my friend who commented first, but even if the situation is as deplorable as he feels.. This is the light at the end of the tunnel.. A new beginning. The beginning of the empowerment of a University. Thank you Kian for supporting us.
MidLaw Firm 13 Jun 2011, 15:38
+1 -0
I second #5. it is a decent beginning for a nascent stage. I have worked with a couple of students from NLU Lucknow. They are very hard working. They lack exposure which I'm sure they'll have in due course of time.
Leg.aware 13 Jun 2011, 17:30
+1 -0
Whatever, but NLU delhi is d best among the upcoming law schools
India is not shining 13 Jun 2011, 18:20
+0 -0
LI and Kian your attempts to sugar-coat the pathetic job scene in the country is getting more ridiculous day by day. Debut batch "opts" for bench? LOL. you means they did not get jobs at law firms. Even recruitments at NALSAR and NUJS have been average barring the top 25-30 students. Just speak to any student from these colleges in private. Everyone knows that the Indian economy is slowing down rapidly because of the UPA's poor performance and unwillingness to pursue reforms. This is getting reflected in placements as well. Why are you not tackling the issue head on? Who are you trying to defend? You sound like an "India Shining" government mouthpiece.
walternate 13 Jun 2011, 18:59
+1 -0
dude.


millions of people around the world have lost their jobs over the past 2-3 years and most are yet to be gainfully employed.
All About Social Position 13 Jun 2011, 19:03
+4 -0
Dude...have you ever wondered why all fathers in India want their sons to be an IAS officer? Not because of the money...but mostly because of the "RESPECT" factor attached to it. Because of the stature of the job. Because when you walk past, 5 people will salute you!! India may have progressed but still the average Indians are bound by 'Society'...why do you think that parents in India are crazy about sending their kids to engineering or medical school...why the number of students pursuing science at the +2 level is the highest??...all because at the end of the day, they want to come back to home to brag about their son pursuing science!!

Adding to this, Uttar Pradesh...boss you go there and you see what is it like to be a government employee...if you are an 'adhikari' (those who don't know, this word denotes an 'officer'), you are a demi-god!! It might come as a surprise to you but even today people low in hierarchy touch their seniors feet twice a day. Yes that is a fact!! see Mayawati??

This is the precise reason why UPites are crazy about government jobs..not to mention the money that you can earn out of corruption, being a government servant. My dad is no different. I hail from UP studying is one of those A grade law schools...I can easily get a job in the BigLaw (which eventually I'm going to go for). But my dad simply refuses to stop bugging me...with one wish, I should appear for Judiciary exam or Civil Services. Infact a very dear friend of mine working in a Magic Circle firm and hailing from UP had a tuf time convincing her dad that she'z not just cut out for the Bench and the Babu giri...or rather Madamgiri!!

I wont be surprised if the toppers of RMLNLU would decide to forgo the Corp. World...infact I'm sure many of them have started preparing themselves since the second or the third year.

Someone from RMLNLU may please portray the clear picture??
Attorney 14 Jun 2011, 04:58
+4 -0
Kian, I am just wondering who has coined the term 'desk jobs'.
sad RMLNLU placements 14 Jun 2011, 05:39
+0 -0
This is a sad placement scene at RMLNLU.
Bench!! 14 Jun 2011, 05:58
+0 -0
What Bench? Judicial clerkships in Punjab and Haryana HC (the most notorious and corrupt court in India)!

Most of the students in good law schools opt for judicial clerkships in the Supreme Court which is prestigious and envied.

This HC judicial clerkship is there just to fluff up the recruitment figures.
A good law school student! 14 Jun 2011, 06:48
+2 -0
BENCH@ Don't talk foolish -you can certainly learn more in high court. Not all HC are bad like Bombay, Delhi, Chennai and Gujarat are good one.
legal merchant 14 Jun 2011, 07:20
+1 -0
the only clege lft whch havent showed his placement is rgnul...cnlu patiala, nuals kochi, rmlnu lucknow n rgnul patiala al strted 2gether..
v al knw the scene in cnlu
nuals kochi has done exceptionaly well
rmlnu's performance is decent
the only clege lft which hasnt shwn his placement figures is rgnul patiala, sme people say there ws no campus placements n wth no company visiting the campus..sad scene in rgnul patiala wth students finding jobs no where..
24% placements at RMLNLU 14 Jun 2011, 07:24
+1 -0
So 13 out of 54 students got placed at RMLNLU! This makes for 24% placements.
50% placements 14 Jun 2011, 08:15
+1 -0
atleast 7 more are due to be confirmed. 4 students have been confirmed by HDFC Bank. An official offer letter is awaited. Also Nishith Desai was at the campus on friday...results awaited.

This will take the total tally to more than 50%
Ranking 14 Jun 2011, 09:51
+2 -0
But given the fact that RMLNLU has got low placements, they should not boast of being better than GNLU or HNLU. GNLU and HNLU have fared a lot better than RMLNLU
UPite 14 Jun 2011, 15:19
+2 -0
The RMLNLU recruitmens might be far from impressive but those who have known this law school from its inception will be pleased with what it has achieved in a short span. The only NLU in the country which is fully funded by the State govenment, this law school has often faught for making the policy makers (read mypoic bureaucrats)realize the difference between a multi-faculty conventional state university and a specialised NLU where constituents' demands and expectations are wholly different. The power in U.P. flows from a white-collar government job, with low threshhold of efficiency and larger than life egos. Every, "right thinking" administrative or judicial officer whose child studies in RMLNLU wants their children to step in his/her shoes. The reason is simple, land reforms might have abolished zamindaris but the mind set remains the same.
RMLNLU started with a non-law founder vice-chancellor (he was an ex-IIT Professor)and for almost 2 years, remained without a visionary. The present dispensation must be congratulated for what it could do in such short period of time.
Give all the "crawling babies" some more time and then we can have a fair comparative analysis of the recruitment data.
Iceman 14 Jun 2011, 18:23
+2 -0
Enough tall claims. Lets hear some truth. All the three NLUs established in 2006 had witnessed a dismal performance. Its more disgraceful in terms of my university (RMLNLU) since we were blessed with an incomparable infrastructure support from the very first day. No firm or enterprise visited the campus and except AMSS everything was on personal contacts. But the batch has some real promising people, no doubts to that. Though the admin of the univ must share some blame, the major reason had been the inept reserved candidates (making 50% of the batch)and a much publicized placement fraud (first of its kind in a law school). The future is really challenging for RMLNLU though it is blessed with a promising batch next year (160 students..err). In all, pull up you socks and let those lead, who can lead.
LOL 14 Jun 2011, 23:51
+1 -0
'Opting for the bench' - what ludicrous reporting! It would be funny if it wasn't so misleading.

The truth ladies and gents, is that no one from any law school in the country and not having a family 'inheritance' has even the slightest interest to seriously 'opt' for the bench. If you thought a corporate profile with a law firm is a stressful losers-lose-all rat race, lower judicial services is utter crap - no money, marginal respect more than offset by the humiliation from the higher judiciary, plenty of lobbying and shameless nepotism.

I think the placements are pathetic. P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C. And a clear warning to prospective students - go to FL Delhi, GLC Mumbai, even Symbiosis if you must but avoid this place!
The Stranger Lohiyan 15 Jun 2011, 04:36
+1 -0
It's good to see some grand comments from my 'so' called Lohiyans. Overall if you analyze the growth of RMLNLU then its quite 'praiseworthy' job being done by the founding faculties and 'financially' by the state govt. Being a final year law student of this prestigious university i can say inertly that the quality of student is limited to a domain of students regardless of their previous schooling and upbringing. But let me bring out this reality that we 'Lohiyans' know less Law and more of everything else. Because the culture in university never allows you to flourish individually.
I agree some students are placed hereon contacts bcoz- 1. They have some personal contact and 2. The recruitment committee is unable to place them all as the students in committee itself fighting for their cosmos.

@ Kian - Distressing to see your credible info. on above mentioned placement and career option figures but in reality they are not absolutely true. Whosoever has given this info. has just exaggerated the whole things here.

#19- 'Iceman'- I'm eagerly waiting to see the performance of 2012 batch in the recruitment. But i'm sure we'll see some good combat involving 'promising yet confused' students of my batch and i include myself in that also.

Wake up 'Loiyans' we may be mentally equivalent to other peers in India but this is a reality we know less law and more of everything else.
truth about RGNUL 15 Jun 2011, 09:56
+0 -0
RGNUL Patiala SUCKS..it literally is as bad as it gets. the students (some of them at least)are quite hardworking, but infrastructure and faculty wise, it is hell. this is how the placements went this year: 2 local law firms from chandigarh turned up, offering packages of Rs 10,000 p.m and THAT WAS IT. a few have got ppos with mediocre law firms like [...] and all. No tier 1 placements whatsoever..and one more thing, the campus is so unprofessional, hardly anyone speaks in English. Punjabi and Hindi prevail..guys and girls who have given clat this year..DON'T GO THERE..period.
Raghav GFG 15 Jun 2011, 10:27
+3 -0
What's wrong with speaking Hindi? So we speak hindi in our hostels, therefore we are unprofessional ? You amuse me.
Come here dirtbag, I'll show you....
Dirty Truth 15 Jun 2011, 11:12
+0 -0
Oh So after North-South, Hindu-Muslim, Dravid-Aryan, IIT/IIM-Rest we have a new debate. Keep it up Guys. You have nothing to loose. As it is a lawyer is a declared crook. Slit out each others throats, we Indians are made that way. We thrive on our prejudices.
Hacker 15 Jun 2011, 17:30
+1 -0
Nice building...that can hardly be said for many crumbling institutions.
shubhchintak 16 Jun 2011, 12:45
+2 -0
two of the students have started there own law firm with the name of nyspat...hoping to see them as new rainmaker