The Choose Your Law School Sessions: Let’s talk about vice chancellors, baby (the good, the bad and especially the ugly)

Just imagine if this little guy was your law school VC...
Just imagine if this little guy was your law school VC...

The law school you choose should not just get you the job of your dreams but it also better give you an exceptionally nurturing educational atmosphere during your undergraduate years, considering the budget you are going to be allocating to it.

Legal education in India comes at significant cost at all national law universities (NLUs) and is even more expensive at some private law schools, such as JGLS Sonepat. It is comparatively quite cheap at some private law schools such as Amity Delhi and, by relative comparison, nearly free at some of the even older law colleges such as Delhi University and GLC Mumbai.

It is therefore paramount that the funds provided by you, as fees, are used by the university to give you the best of exposure, faculty, facilities and space for growth, and that the law school’s administration has your confidence in doing so.

These are some basic parameters on which the administrative quality of a law school can be judged.

The vice chancellor: Kings, queens and princes?

The quality of the vice chancellor (VC) of a law school (or the director, or dean in some cases) is usually inextricably linked to the quality of every aspect of law school life.

VCs will often have a hand not just in a law school’s infrastructural development (NLU Delhi), curriculum design (Nalsar) and other reform (NLU Assam), but also in quality of teaching faculty (NLU Delhi), availability (GNLU) of scholarships (Nirma), relaxing attendance and course requirements to destress students (Nalsar) and other good things happening for and around students. They might not be personally responsible all the time, but a good VC will create a culture where enterprising faculty members and students can make such changes.

However, the VCs managerial style may also be directly responsible for the law school losing exceptional faculty (NUJS) on account of undue authoritarianism or due to allegedly regressive policies (NLSIU). The VC may also diminish the credentials of a law school (Delhi University) due to inattentiveness (NLU Orissa), or due to dictatorial attitudes (GNLU), or through outright (alleged) corruption (NUJS).

That said, authoritarianism is not a bad thing, per se.

Given the tight budget (NLSIU) on which VCs have to run these islands of educational excellence (or mediocrity) it may be good for the law school to have a tough task master at the helm. Running a law school is like running a company, law firm or, often, worse. Someone has to be in charge, and doing everything by committee or democratic vote will end in disaster.

But the challenge before most VCs is not to abuse this power for the end of creating a personal fiefdom but to build the strongest institution with the best atmosphere possible for college students to become lawyers.

It often helps to have an enterprising and proactive VC (Nalsar) for a period that is long enough for a VC to familiarise themselves with the law school’s specific problem areas and to start coming up with solutions.

However, even without showing any performance, many VCs are inevitably able to pull political strings and their terms get renewed.

On the other hand there are universities, especially some new NLUs, where the political environment diminishes the will of successive VCs to stick it out at the place for even one term.

And arguably even a bad VC can be better than no VC at all for extended periods.

NLU Orissa (NLUO), for instance, is one such law school. Successive VCs have left its chair mid-term. GLC Mumbai, recently, became another one. Nuals Kochi, the newly founded Tamil Nadu NLS and the very young NLU Assam are some other examples. NLUO has also seen its VC appointments being in limbo, and so has NUSRL, as well as NLIU Bhopal which is one of the five oldest NLUs.

However, at the oldest NLUs the VCs ordinarily do not want to leave. VCs at NLSIU, NLU Delhi, HNLU Raipur, GNLU Gandhinagar, and even the younger DSNLU have had their terms extended and renewed.

Some new NLUs are still on to their very first VCs, such as NLU Mumbai which, like DSNLU, is also without a proper campus at the moment.

Transparency: A true test of greatness

In our opinion, the greatest testament to whether a VC intends to run a personal fiefdom or a good law school, is whether they have taken steps to create an accessible and transparent administrative system. Accessibility under the Right to Information (RTI) Act 2005, as well as accessibility to the media counts.

The administration should openly disclose facts about its management of the university coffers, its policies and measures taken for staff and students, and the incidents that take place on campus – especially when these campuses are situated in remote outskirts of cities. JGLS Sonepat’s transparency with how it handled the Jat riots and a semi-evacuation recently, for instance, were laudable.

Such openness not just creates a system of checks and balances but also imparts confidence within parents who may have sent their undergraduate children away from home for the first time ever.

Until 2011, for example, NLIU Bhopal, HNLU Raipur, GLC Mumbai and ILS Pune absolutely and completely flouted India’s RTI law by not publishing any details of its public information officer and RTI appellate authority on its website. NUJS Kolkata, NLU Jodhpur and RMLNLU Lucknow had barely complied. NLSIU, Nalsar, GNLU and NLU Delhi were in total compliance.

While all of these law schools pretty much now comply with this legal requirement, at least on their websites, many have disregarded RTI applications in other ways several times over the years:

Late responses playing with semantics and dodged appeals at NLSIU, fudged responses at NUJS, opacity on examination rules at NLUO, are just a few of many examples.

And the NLUs part of the Common Law Admission Test (CLAT) tried to hide its founding memorandum of understanding last year – an instance which though it doesn’t directly affect current students, it speaks volumes on these NLUs’ attitudes on transparency.

And earlier this year Legally India requested the VCs of all NLUs part of CLAT 2016 to answer a questionnaire about their law school, for the benefit of CLAT candidates. Sadly, Nalsar VC Faizan Mustafa was the only VC to respond to this request, despite several reminders sent to the other VCs by phone, messages and email.

This lack of transparency and willingness to allow sunlight into their affairs, leads to serious problems of accountability.

Accountability: Where?

Every law school’s VC has huge amounts of cash, mostly by way of government funds, at their disposal, some more than others. So, to be fair, the problem of a lack of accountability in utilising these funds extends beyond Legally India’s reporting, so far, of financial and other mismanagement at law schools in the few years of our existence.

Nevertheless, as per our reporting at least NUJS, Nalsar and Nuals Kochi have existing external committee reports on their financial irregularities and GNLU was once stamped with a critical report by NLSIU’s founding VC Prof Madhav Menon, the conclusion of which was spun to the media after long procrastination. Usually these law schools have tried to bury (Nalsar) damning reports.

Apart from finances, there are other areas in which a lack of transparency and accountability can snowball into a dangerous situation for the law school’s students. At NUJS, for instance, the administration had almost stonewalled a student’s not insignificant complaint: the student was slapped by a faculty at the law school.

And Nalsar received media attention for irregularities in the fee reimbursements of students from the scheduled category of reservations at the law school.

These law schools, being public institutions, are accountable to the public and the biggest force keeping this check on them ought to be the law school’s student body.

Student body: The true strength of a law school

A strong and vocal student body generally makes a law school a safer place to be.

Students can make the most of their time at law school by directing it towards direct personal growth through academics, competitions, research, debates and discussions. But crucial to sustaining such an atmosphere is to pull up the law school’s management for its actions that hinder it.

Some instances where pressure from the student body – through boycotts or other measures – took place recent years:

NUJS students had taken the administration to task for a lack of infrastructure and faculty, and had demanded the registrar’s resignation for sexual harassment; at NLSIU students made sure professors know they can’t pass sexist remarks at students with impunity; at RMLNLU students resolved infrastructural issues through meeting the chancellor; at HNLU Raipur students went on hunger strike for the law school’s poor campus placement efforts and for lack of a permanent campus, and both aspects gradually saw improvements; at NUSRL students boycotted exams to protest the administration’s apathy; Mumbai University was pulled up by a student, through his RTI, for its outdated courses.

Students sometimes work with the administration against external forces – at NUSRL Ranchi students won a land dispute against the local land mafia and helped the law school move to its designated campus, for instance. And 500 law students from various colleges pressured the Bar Council of India to intervene and better the circumstances at their law schools.

And sometimes the demands are innovative and practical, if a tad unrealistic to achieve: NLU Assam very recently students went hunger striking to demand a refund of four years of college fees in lieu of deficient facilities.

The student body can sometimes behave destructively as well: Panjab University students went on hunger strike to lower attendance requirements, GLC Coimbatore closed after its students locked the principal out, and NLSIU once experienced a homophobic incident of students defacing faculty noticeboards.

Discipline

To allow space for students’ growth, the administration needs to balance the concerns of safety and security of its students while simultaneously avoiding subjecting them to absolute tyranny.

Private law school JGLS Sonepat – which is situated in Haryana and is more prone to riots and gang violence, as well as one gang rape accusation, and bullies on campus, against whom strict action was taken – enforces exceptional security measures such as fingerprint sensors, among other things, and routinely earns student flak for being too draconian. It previously also imposed heavy fines on students, but has now abolished many of those to steer a middle-course on discipline.

Parents clearly need to be reassured that an administration is doing all it can to keep their kids safe on campus, but walking that tightrope between sufficient and not enough security is very hard.

And often the balancing act and perspective is lost.

GNLU, has repeatedly been lambasted by the Gujarat high court for its dictatorial policies such as mandatory “goodness marks”, and general disregard for students’ basic human rights.

NLSIU effectively resorted to victim-blaming when it reacted to the rape of its student in the Nagarbhavi forest area in its campus’ vicinity, by imposing 9pm curfews on students wanting to go in and out of campus.

It is a truism that every law school is unique and there is no one-size fits all approach. But likewise, students should also realise that they are all unique and should start demanding environments and administration that treat them as adults and soon-to-be defenders of our laws and rights.

And that has to start from the very top at a law school.

Also read:

The Choose Your Law School Sessions: Recruitment performance through the ages

Comments

DARK KNIGHT 27 May 2016, 15:54
+4 -0
Thank you Legally india for that nostalgic trip down the memoray lane and for making me remember every struggle i had to bear and witness during my 5 years of college. :)
Guest 27 May 2016, 16:47
+3 -1
Still not very helpful for prospective students. Please give us a firm recommendation on which law school to choose! If all VCs are bad then what about campus life, hostels, teaching quality, industry exposure, internships etc? Maybe what you can do is ask alumni to write honestly about pros and cons of each college.
Guest 29 May 2016, 06:51
+5 -7
Should legally India make a list and sign it for you? They are as much outsiders as most ex-students and alumni. Law schools change with every changing mood of a VC. The common hierarchies are well known and those aren't expected to change any time soon.

NLSIU -- NALSAR -- NUJS
NLUJ -- NLIU -- NLUD
GNLU -- GLC -- CLC [the last two if you 'a certain type of person']
JGLS (if you can't get into the above and have money)
NLUO -- RMLNLU

... Drop a year thereafter...

* certain type of person = outgoing, independent and resourceful. Attend less classes, intern as much as possible through the year and make use of extensive senior contacts in firms.

** JGLS - I know how great your faculty is. Most of them are contemporaries from law school. Some are half decent, most just have foreign LLMs. Put you on the list for that reason alone.
CLC 29 May 2016, 18:33
+3 -0
You must be from nluo.
Guest 29 May 2016, 18:52
+0 -1
Been there once. Heard some very good things about them from people I respect in Delhi.
NLUO Luthra 30 May 2016, 07:39
+0 -1
NLSIU -- NALSAR -- NUJS
NLUD
NLUJ--GNLU -- NLIU
RMLNLU- NLUO-- GLC -- CLC
Noun 30 May 2016, 18:20
+4 -0
GLC is so overrated. So is CLC. Jindal is better than the NLU's after top 6 and SLS, Pune after the top 7-8. Might seem harsh but that's the truth.
RB 8 Oct 2017, 07:32
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I don't really think GLC is overrated. If anything its students are underrated. The faculty (for the large part) is poor, the syllabus, outdated, and the infrastructure, laughable. This is no secret, and is a fact that most GLC students (or anyone who has ever been a part of Mumbai University) will attest to. If one is comparing GLC with other law schools on the basis of academic rigour, GLC would probably not feature anywhere. But GLC students don't need and cannot rely on spoon-feeding.

What allows GLC to retain its rank among the top law schools today, in spite of its infrastructure being in shambles, is the quality of the average law student. That they perform in spite of the zero resources for students demonstrates their character and attitude. That GLC recognises this and encourages internships while in college is a credit to their perspicacity. Where else can one come out with a quality legal education (encouraged by them, even if not delivered by them) for less than Rs. 7000 a year?

Perhaps that is also one of the reasons that GLC performs well in litigation, the one area of law that most fear to tread. Mumbai University conditions one for apathy, red-tape and general harassment, so going into litigation is no big deal :)
Dark Knight 31 May 2016, 14:53
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Hi Tanuj :)
da real Dark Knight 27 May 2016, 17:27
+7 -0
Should i be sad/glad that my college doesn't find any mention?

Go Muchhad! #P(S)J

Mah luv RGNUL
DesiDude 27 May 2016, 18:46
+0 -1
Was about to write the same! :D
NLUJite 27 May 2016, 20:00
+5 -0
BTW, Is Bimal Patel a VC? Isn't GNLU suffering a lack of VC. I don't think he is even qualified to, given his lack of a valid legal degree.

Bimal Patel as far as I know is the Director of GNLU and has been getting his term renewed. Practically he is the fuhrer of GNLU without as an acting VC without anyone to rule over him.
Ex GNLU Ex Amarchand 28 May 2016, 05:35
+5 -0
The nomenclature of the post dosen't matter. The GNLU Act 2003 provides for a Director to head the institute. The Director would be the Vice Chancellor for all purposes. This is the same practice in NLIU.
But he's a fuhrer allright.

Cherian is that you? ;) When are you getting that Asst Prof promotion?
NUALS Student 27 May 2016, 22:27
+2 -0
NUALS has definitely had issues with VC's in the past which negatively affected our growth, however our current VC has proven quite efficient and we've seen exponential growth in the past 1 and a half years under her. We're generally pretty happy :)
Mainak 27 May 2016, 23:38
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"NLSIU effectively resorted to victim-blaming when it reacted to the rape of its student in the Nagarbhavi forest area in its campus’ vicinity, by imposing 9pm curfews on students wanting to go in and out of campus."

True but a couple of points:

First, a shout out to the students and then SBA VP Badrinarayan who orchestrated a successful campaign of constant and reasoned engagement with the admn that got the curfew revoked soon.

Second, VC Venkat Rao was instrumental in ensuring that the Perm Time never never got implemented by, basically saying "yes, permitted" to almost every case where a student wished to stay out and return later than the curfew.
Alum 28 May 2016, 19:25
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Also, as I learnt last weekend, there is now NO enforced perm (not even the previous 12:30 AM perm). All you have to do is sign in when you get back to campus, at whatever time that might be. Excellent move, IMO. Seems like something so basic, but is a rarity in Indian residential colleges
No curfew 29 May 2016, 04:14
+3 -0
Very true! We thank our lucky stars that at NUJS, we never had to pay heed to any curfew in the past few years at least! While there may be one on pen and paper, it has never been enforced, unless a student probably tries to waltz in late night, drunk and/or high. Even then, a figurative rap on the wrist is the maximum 'punishment', nothing more.
Guest 29 May 2016, 06:44
+1 -4
NALSAR has a liberal in-time. Campus in-time is 9 , 11 with a text to one of the wardens, and often extended till later. The hostel in-time is 2 am, and we have a [i]dhaba[/i] open till then. Whatever you do, we do better.
Mx. X 29 May 2016, 12:59
+3 -0
Staying outside hostel and/ or sitting in a dhaba till 2 AM is your idea of doing something better? Interesting...
Rama Rao 1 Jun 2016, 09:44
+1 -0
Bcoz we enter dhabas after slogging in library from morning till evening. Shudn't we have a late night drink after a stressful day?
No Curfew 29 May 2016, 17:15
+13 -0
Yeah, man. Your dhaba is way better than the numerous eateries all around our campus. I totally get you, bro! Whatever floats your boat.
Guest 2 1 Jun 2016, 17:58
+0 -0
LOL. Better at what exactly? Not at getting jobs and law firm partnerships for sure.
Guest 28 May 2016, 02:56
+9 -1
Does anyone know when Ishwar Bhat is leaving NUJS? He seems to have beent he longest serving VC. What a disaster!
Noojie 28 May 2016, 13:06
+13 -0
His term is getting over in December. He is planning to get an extension and judging from the rumours, he is probably going to get it too! :'( We need people like Menon back!
Guest 29 May 2016, 03:11
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His extension can be stalled if alumni sign a petition calling for a new VC. Around 450 students and alumni had signed a petition seeking his removal but it was not submitted.

https://www.change.org/embed/p/chief-justice-of-india-to-seek-urgent-intervention-against/preview

But this time it can be done. He was a CPIM appointee supported by Justice Ganguly (who openly backed the CPIM during the election). The present government is a Trinamul administration with a brute majority, and can easily be persuaded to oppose his extension. There is NO way this guy can be given the distinction of having served a longer term than Menon and MP Singh!Alumni are all well established. What do they have to lose?
Noojie 29 May 2016, 17:17
+4 -0
Word is the present government like him too, given he is such a yes-man! Alumni can do something, it is true, but not much since they do not have representation in the EC and he being the EC Chairman, won't obviously keep such stuff in the agenda. Sort of like the judges themselves deciding contempt matters ;)
Noojie 29 May 2016, 17:18
+5 -0
Also, he has already served a longer term than Menon and M.P. Singh. Former was there for about 3 years. The latter about four and a half. This guy will complete five in December. He is the first VC to serve a full term of five years here.
Noojie 2 Jun 2016, 16:26
+0 -0
Longest "serving"? Really?
Guest 28 May 2016, 16:12
+1 -7
Menon has a PhD from India. We were told by an enlightened poster in the comments section of the first post in this series (around comment 14) that they are 'useless'.

On a serious note, where I am not painting a 'heads up the ass pic' for today's everyday law student living off the name made by us, I would tend to agree. Need someone to come in and be 'Menon'.
Noojie 29 May 2016, 04:11
+10 -0
Hear, hear! Alumni representation in the Executive Councils of the NLUs can go a long way in addressing some of the damage the occasional VC tends to inflict on the institutions too, I'd say.
Guest 29 May 2016, 06:39
+2 -9
TNNLS has a NLSIU alumni as the VC. I assume they are ranked 1 these days? Are they, or have law students collectively stuck their head far up their asses?
Guest 29 May 2016, 10:37
+11 -0
What a daft comment! TNNNLS could not find a VC after the last one left. So the government posted an IAS officer who is an NLSIU alumnus (V Arun Roy) on deputation as VC and Registrar of TNNLS. It is a stopgap arrangement. He is not even a professor! . His job is merely to fix certain administrative matters and then move on to his next IAS posting. If you are using this as an argument against NLU alumni as VC, then you are ignorant and dishonest. I suspect you are a chamcha of some of the VCs who have been criticised on this board. You are perhaps a faculty member with a degree from a non-NLU who is insecure.
Noojie 29 May 2016, 17:23
+6 -0
Quite true! And to be fair to the TNNLS VC, his job is strictly temporary and he knows that. Not as if he volunteered to bring reforms down there! Also, the VC would require considerable cooperation too from various other department, including the state government (in case latter plays a role in the admin). Also, I did not argue for an alumnus as the VC. I agree non-NLU people can be excellent administrators too. I mean, Menon, man! Just that alumni representation in the EC can only improve things. They will be the only people in the EC who would usually care for the institution as a whole, instead of seeing it just as another chore.
Save NUJS 29 May 2016, 04:31
+18 -0
Under the current VC, almost no faculty member is happy at NUJS, barring a handful who have benefited from the overt nepotism. The en mass discontent ought to point out there is at least something wrong. The only reason the institution has not fallen considerably is because of the struggle of the students and some good faculty members. A pity the EC never keeps a finger on the pulse of the grass-root level happenings at law schools, otherwise extension of his term could never have been even considered!
Guest 29 May 2016, 07:48
+11 -0
Well said. The good faculty have all left for NLUD and Jindal. The ones remaining are all third-class, barring a few. It's time the SJA gets some guts and starts a movement for a new VC, else NUJS will slide downwards and placements will suffer. The present SJA likes to play safe and claim that a petition against the VC will harm reputation and placements. On the contrary, this will happen if he remains as VC. If you want to improve placements get a new VC.

It can be done in a sophisticated way. Instead of posting the petition on change.org it can be circulated only within the NUJS community, and then submitted to the CJI and state government. The state government HATES Justice Ganguly and will be happy to remove his appointee.
Guest 29 May 2016, 10:53
+11 -0
Someone please remind the suck-up SJA about the following faculty members that NUJS lost under Bhat. He must go!

- Shamnad Basheer
- Sudhir Krishnaswamy (left for Azim Premji)
- Prabhash Ranjan (left for NLUJ)
- Daniel Mathew (left for NLUD)
- Chinamyi Arun (left for NLUD)
- Anup Surendranatah (was interviewed but joined NLUD instead)
- Naveen Thayyyil (denied a Skype interview by Bhat, joined IIT)
- Pritam Baruah (left for Jindal)
- Vishwas Devaiah (left for Jindal)
- Rukmini Sen (left for Delhi)
- Supriyo Routh (returned after PhD from abroad, left after being insulted)
- Manoj Sinha (left for ILI Delhi)

Probably missed out some more names as well.
Noojie 29 May 2016, 17:24
+19 -0
Bas kar paagle, aab rulayaga kya? :'(
Noojie 29 May 2016, 17:28
+12 -0
Jasmine Joseph (went on leave for 3 years, yet to come back)
Sheila Rai tried to come back, was given insulting terms.
U.R. Rai quit the chair professorship.
Nandan Nawn (left for TERI). (...)
Sarfaraz (mostly stayed away on pretext of PhD, yet to rejoin full-time)
NUJS 1 Jun 2016, 10:08
+0 -1
We do still have an ex-CJI om our rolls though, so that's something.
TYS 30 May 2016, 08:24
+4 -3
Hmm, many of the names on this list are very average and some are mediocre. Not sure if their departure is a loss.

That said the bigger question is whether there are any NLU-educated faculty still at NUJS
Noojie 30 May 2016, 11:12
+7 -0
4 full time and 5 part time still. But the question is for how long? These are young people who want the institution to do well. But there's only so much that they will take before shifting bases.
Guest 29 May 2016, 17:26
+5 -2
We need to correct the perception that NLUD has good faculty. It probably has better faculty than most other colleges, but given the standards of law faculty in India generally, that is not saying much. And I say NLUD has better faculty than others becuase it has a small group (about 7-8 of 50 odd faculty) of very good faculty who are world class, who raise the average quality of faculty. The others are quite pathetic. And it is this latter group that teaches the bulk of the basic courses. Ranbir Singh is as much responsible for recruiting the [...] and [...] of NLUD as he is of recruiting NLU alum.by
Guest 30 May 2016, 07:51
+1 -0
Jealous guy alert!
Guest 30 May 2016, 11:05
+1 -0
Gal. And I am from NLUD. This is self critique not jealousy. If you are from NLUD, you know it is true.
Butter Fly 2 Jun 2016, 06:18
+0 -0
You are right that very few teachers are good and majority are mediocre or poor performers. You may blame Ranvir for this but at the same time he must be appreciated as he has been able to [b]attract[/b]though a few (7-8 as per your statement) good teachers in contrast to others who have been very successful in throwing away the talented teachers be it Banglore, Hyderabad or Kolkatta. That's the difference between RS and others.
Butt 29 May 2016, 18:43
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I-a am-a the-a best-a VC-a in-a the-a world-a. I-a want-a to-a convert-a NUJS-a into-a Mysore-a.
Scholar 30 May 2016, 08:01
+3 -13
I am NUJS faculty. It is completely wrong to say that NUJS faculty and student is against Professor Bhat. Majority support and respect him. It is not the job of VC to do public relation with foreign law firm or foreign university. If you want that type of culture go to the Jindals law school, which is for elites and rich.

Gandhiji has said of Pandit Nehru: "He is pure as the crystal, nation is safe in his hands." Same can be said for Professor Bhat.
Fake-Ulti 30 May 2016, 11:15
+6 -0
United we stand, divided we misunderstand ;)
From NALSAR 30 May 2016, 19:32
+8 -0
As an outsider it was all fine to me, till that last para. Till then it was just an opinion that you could genuinely have had. But then that last part cracked me up.

Stop sucking up anonymously. Go do that in his office.
sls concerned alumni 30 May 2016, 12:21
+0 -0
Notice how SLS doesnt even feature. Not surprised with how dictatorial the college is. Brilliant faculty constantly leaving because of disagreements with the director. A very impulsive person. From what i last heard, the student council has been disbanded in favor of cash cows. Gone are the glory days of my alma marter
kianganz 30 May 2016, 12:36
+0 -0
Yes, I have to admit, we've really undercovered most of the private law schools...
Guest 31 May 2016, 06:11
+5 -0
Have you seen the number of NUJS grads teaching at Jindal? They even stole ex-NUJS teachers. WTF?? And here we are with faculty who can't speak a word of English, know jack about their subject, play recorded lectures etc.
Jiggly poo 31 May 2016, 14:03
+3 -4
You get what you pay for, man! They get 3 times the salary bere and no stupid admin workload and a lot of research resources. P.s. They are still not all good. We have good and bad people here, just like you do. Maybe slightly better in average.
Guest 31 May 2016, 17:51
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Bullcrap to say faculty join Jindal for the pay. NUJS had terrific faculty during MP Singh's time. Ranbir Singh has also attracted good faculty at NLUD. Jindal may have the best faculty right now but their students are the dumbest and totally ill mannered. Their faculty would leave for NLUs in an instant if VCs were good. In private Jindal faculty will tell you they would rather teach at an NLU if the work conditions were better. It's a tragedy that good faculty are wasted at Jindal.
Jiggly Poo 1 Jun 2016, 05:23
+4 -3
Yeah, and work conditions include salary, last time I checked. I never said it is the only factor. Kindly re-read my earlier comment, unless your fascination with 'bullcrap' hinders your reading capacity. Also, there's no dearth of the dumb and ill-mannered in NLUs too.
ABCD 31 May 2016, 11:07
+5 -0
why the attrition rate is so high in the top nlu's like NALSAR & NUJS especially?
Sage 1 Jun 2016, 05:26
+2 -0
Not that much, actually. When a change of VC takes place, some people do tend to leave. Even when MP Singh had joined, a few had left. Unless you are so well-entrenched in the university that such minor details won't bother you.
Guest 1 Jun 2016, 05:34
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The exodus of good faculty from NUJS is a major problem. A massive outreach effort to alumni should be initiated targeting senior alumni. It's not a problem if the admin insists on an LLM degree, as there are now tons of alumni with LLMs (law firms, corporates, advocates, you name it). Let us also swallow our pride and ask if JGLS, NLUD etc can loan faculty to us.
Guest 1 Jun 2016, 09:13
+2 -7
It is incorrect to say that NUJS has bad faculty. Professor Bhat is a legendary scholar of constitutional law. He has also recruited many first class professors. Good faculty does not mean degree from NLU and foreign university. Most such people are flop, as you can see that majority of students clearing judicial services exam and UGC NET is from traditional university,not NLU. I say NUJS is blessed to have Professor Bhat, excepting some bad students interested more in smoking and romancing than studies, and acting smart with teachers.
ABCD 1 Jun 2016, 09:37
+3 -0
would you like to share any legend associated with him?
Whistleblower 1 Jun 2016, 14:38
+4 -0
Believe me, we are counting our blessings. Minutely. Also the days leading up to his departure. We will put garlands on his picture too, if you want us to!
Guest 2 1 Jun 2016, 18:10
+0 -0
Cool story bro!
Noojie 1 Jun 2016, 18:52
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The legendary scholar of constitutional law tried teaching constitutional law this year and it sucked. And "acting smart with the teachers"? You seem to be personally hurt by this.
Whistleblower 1 Jun 2016, 14:35
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I can. But I am afraid Kian will censor those, the spoilsport! ;)
X 2 Jun 2016, 06:20
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will anybody help me understand after this long article who is a good vc among the
Sage 3 Jun 2016, 05:23
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You, obviously, once you decide to take the plunge!