The politics of 2-yr-LLMs under BCI reaches SC: Council promises to postpone ban until 2022

The BCI plans to take control of LLMs, to the chagrin of VCs and postgrads everywhere
The BCI plans to take control of LLMs, to the chagrin of VCs and postgrads everywhere

The Supreme Court began hearing challenges to the Bar Council of India’s (BCI) unceremonious decision to pull masters in laws (LLMs) into its regulatory orbit and ordering the ban of one-year LLM degrees (the most popular kind in India), reported LiveLaw and others.

Today, the BCI had told the Supreme Court that it would keep the implementation of the one-year LLM ban in abeyance until 2022-23, which Nalsar Hyderabad vice-chancellor (VC) Prof Faizan Mustafa hailed as “another victory for the NLU Consortium” on Twitter today.

The BCI was apparently represented by Vivek Tankha, a Rajya Sabha parliamentarian from the Congress party:

Decks clear for 1 yr LLM course conducted by National law Universities for the year 21-22. The BCI scheme is applicable fr 22-33 , subject to Sup Court decision. Appeared for BCI with Chairman BCI Manan Mishra to resolve the impasse. @barcouncilindia @barandbench @LiveLawIndia

— Vivek Tankha (@VTankha) Thu, 11 Feb 2021, 12:53

Senior counsel Abhishek Manu Singhvi acted for the NLU consortium, and argued, according to LiveLaw:

The Advocates Act, 1961, gives power to the Bar Council of India only to regulate legal education in so far as it relates to qualifications for enrollment for practice of law. LLM is not a qualification for enrollment.

Only UGC has power to regulate LLM courses.

One year LLM is the standard across the globe in all reputed international universities.

One year LLM was started in India on the basis of recommendations of the National Knowledge Commission in 2012.

The BCI did not consult a single Law University before issuing the new Rules.

So far, so BCI.

Background

On 4 January 2021, hot on the heels of having announced that it would fight against law graduates trying to join the judiciary straight out of college, the BCI had dropped another bombshell.

The BCI had announced a radical overhaul and gameplan for the future of postgraduate legal education, which it had to date not wasted much time or thought on.

In addition:

  • the BCI finally decided that continuing legal education (CLE) was a good idea, which it seems to have promptly begun making a reality by tying up with KIIT to start an Indian Institute of Law.
  • The rules also included a proviso for the BCI to carry out its own entrance test for LLMs, which is currently handled by each university as it sees fit (or via a special post-graduate CLAT for NLUs).
  • No more than 50 total students would be allowed into an LLM programme at a university (with no more than 20 students per specialised LLM).

(You can read an annotated version of the 2020 Legal Education Rules here).

The news about the LLMs in particular hit law school vice-chancellors (VC) and faculty like a bombshell, with even the consortium of national law universities (NLU) blindsided.

“It was really a shock for us all. Suddenly we get to know that this has happened - there was no consultation with any VC or professors or anyone,” one VC of an NLU told us at the time, having agreed to speak on condition of anonymity.

The only indication that anything had been afoot, had been a meeting of the BCI’s legal education committee (LEC) one year ago, in January 2020, at which a few professors were present.

According to a source in academia, one professor LEC member in particular, had for a longer time been pitching for a two-year-minimum LLM in order to improve the quality of postgraduate legal education.

How much in-depth research and advanced study of law can you do in a year, went the rationale.

And there is some sympathy for that argument even amongst VCs and academics, with the quality of domestic LLMs often under fire, even though many foreign LLMs are only one-year long.

However, even if a two-year LLM would impart a deeper indication, the practical reality is that the numbers of LLM students would plummet.

“Nobody will take this [two-year] programme, except for those committed for academia,” said the NLU VC.

While LLMs technically do not have much to do with legal practice, a large chunk of LLM takers are also practising lawyers, who take such postgraduate courses to shore up their CVs and marketability.

That would no doubt hurt the coffers of NLUs, as well as reduce the pool of academics available to join law schools.

Why BCI?

Even if there might potentially have been supporters for a longer LLM, this is the first time the BCI has taken much of an interest in LLMs, having traditionally been pre-occupied with accrediting law schools and their LLB courses, which are a mandatory requirement for legal practice (besides the All India Bar Exam (AIBE)).

The wording under the Advocates Act 1961, seems to both limit the BCI’s function, as well as leave the door slightly open for a land grab:

(h) to promote legal education and to lay down standards of such education in consultation with the Universities in India imparting such education and the State Bar Councils;

(i) to recognise Universities whose degree in law shall be a qualification for enrolment as an advocate and for that purpose to visit and inspect Universities 3[or cause the State Bar Councils to visit and inspect Universities in accordance with such directions as it may give in this behalf];

(m) to do all other things necessary for discharging the aforesaid functions;

Prima facie, that does not include LLMs, which serve no role in terms of eligibility for the profession.

However, there are indications that the University Grants Commission (UGC) might actually not be averse to the BCI taking over LLMs, similar to the situation with the medical council and postgraduate degrees, an NLU VC told us.

Financial rewards for BCI and the risks

Besides the BCI having traditionally enjoyed flaunting its power, when possible, there is also an obvious financial element.

Law schools seeking accreditation of their LLB courses range from inspection fees of between Rs 3 to 5 lakh per course. Inspections are required every five years for institutions older than 15 years, and more regularly for younger institutions.

NLUs and other universities with multiple and varying LLB degree programmes can and do therefore easily spend tens of lakhs on such inspections.

Indeed, this power that the BCI yields has historically also bred corruption: three BCI officials had been jailed in 2016 for having taken bribes to accredit law colleges.

The power of the BCI also makes it risky for the NLUs and even private colleges to fight back: with the BCI’s monopoly over accrediting their bread-and-butter LLMs, this is a regulator few VCs want to mess with.

From that perspective, at least, the NLU Consortium, despite all its other faults, at least provides VCs the cover to defend their interests with a united front.

Comments

Guest 11 Feb 2021, 18:55
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[quote]According to a source in academia, one professor LEC member in particular, had for a longer time been pitching for a two-year-minimum LLM in order to improve the quality of postgraduate legal education.
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Can anyone list all the members of the committee? Is NL Mitra still a member? Is Vijaykumar a member? Rao? BimPa? Dukhpal? Jaswal? Afzal Wani? Bhat? Gurpur? Any NLUs profs at all, or just TLC profs?
Guest 12 Feb 2021, 04:54
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Mitra is still there. He approved of this amendment.
Well 12 Feb 2021, 13:14
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This is a confirmed VVK initiative. Law School circles have been openly discussing this.
Guest 11 Feb 2021, 19:14
Contested
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Sudhir gave the BCI a lot of undeserved importance in his twisted agenda to differentiate NLSIU from other NLUs. Why is he quiet?
Bird 12 Feb 2021, 04:20
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Word is that Sudhir has been avoiding making any comments in consortium related matters knowing he'll be dragged through glass for trying any more tactics. Mustafa isn't to be toyed with
Guest 12 Feb 2021, 04:58
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He doesn't have to really talk about the consortium. He can still talk about the possible effect on NLSIU including students and faculty. Last I checked, he is still the VC.
Eh 12 Feb 2021, 06:51
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It seems like there are enough other VCs trying to get the BCI to back off- maybe he just doesn’t want to waste the time on this fight.
Guest 12 Feb 2021, 04:01
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This report misses a very important point, regarding foreign LLMs. 90% of graduates of tier 1/tier 2 NLUs who do an LLM go abroad, as the quality of education and infrastructure abroad is far superior and the LLM courses there have a lot of specialisation and sub-specialisations. Also, one gets an opportunity to meet with students from all over the world and if you are in a big city like New York, London etc you get opportunities to visit courts and international companies/NGOs, possibly intern there. Let's also look at world rankings. Not a single Indian law school in the top 100. The top 20 are:

Harvard University
University of Oxford
University of Cambridge
Yale University
Stanford University
The London School of Economics and Political Science
University of California, Berkeley
Columbia University
New York University
The University of Melbourne
University of Chicago
National University of Singapore (NUS)
The University of Sydney
The University of New South Wales (UNSW Sydney)
King's College London
University College London
The Australian National University
Georgetown University
The University of Hong Kong
The University of Tokyo

So what the BCI is doing is ensuring that the cream of Indian law students do not join as teachers. Just look at the recent hires by Sudhir and Sudhir himself -- all 1 year LLM products.

I am surprised that LI is not highlighting this.
Guest 12 Feb 2021, 04:56
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Actually, there might be a possibility to attract those students still even under the new rules. They cannot be assistant professors immediately after, but private universities like JGU would make them SRAs and something like that for a year, pay equal salary and render them at par. It's the NLUs and public universities that would miss out as you said.
Well. 12 Feb 2021, 13:16
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Error apparent: Sudhir did the Oxford BCL (ie LLM) back when it was a 2-year programme.
Guest 12 Feb 2021, 04:16
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How is Faizan claiming a "victory"? Only a postponement by 1 year has happened, nothing else. Also, the BCI needs to clarify why it challenged reservation in NLSIU and not other NLUs. If it sticks by the position it took in Karnataka HC then only NLSIU should be regulated by BCI, not NALSAR. I wish this case had gone to a bench with sharp judges like Chandrachud, Nariman and Indu Malhotra.
Lol 12 Feb 2021, 06:52
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Faizan just likes claiming victory for everything.
Burying the lead 12 Feb 2021, 07:05
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The truth is- this whole fight is just a pissing contest between BCI and the consortium.
Fact of the matter is- most folks with Indian llms are barely employable. The degree isn’t given the focus or resources it needs in most Indian universities. Graduates rarely have skills that would compete with masters students who studied abroad. Even PhD students in some nlus barely know the basics of legal research and writing. They mostly get by by pretending to be scholars when the depth of their knowledge is quite shallow. There are exceptions to the rule- but they’re only just exceptions. This problem won’t get fixed by making these students do another year in the same broken institution. Changing this won’t happen overnight. You want Indian llms to remain competitive with folks who go to top worlds schools- invest in them- time and energy. Set high expectations for the students and the teachers. Rigour is key. Treat students who go into the llb/llm as adults who make choices. If you are caught plagiarising once in the top world universities- you get reported to the bar and lose the ability to get a license to practice law. If you plagiarise in India once- it doesn’t even register on the radar because even your teachers plagiarise regularly and when they don’t- they want to be “kind” to you and let you go.

You can absolutely have a one year program that is intense and produces skilled knowledgeable graduates- but you will need these programs to be fast paced and hold students and teachers accountable to high standards.

Without integrity and honesty in running these educational programmes- everything else is a scam.
Guest 12 Feb 2021, 07:30
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I completely agree with the need for rigour in the standards of the Indian LLM, but with two caveats. One is that the foreign LLM of less than one year duration isn't also a guarantee of quality anymore. I have seen plenty of NLU grads possessing such a degree and display shocking lack of ability and knowledge. Of course, overall they are still much better in comparison with the current Indian one year LLMs. What used to make the difference was that earlier the good students would only go for those foreign LLMs because they were heavily dependent on the scholarships. But the universities abroad are becoming less selective these days if you are not seeking scholarships. The top ones like Harvard, OxBridge, Yale are still highly competitive though, I'm not talking about those. But the difference between a mediocre student with a foreign LLM and a good one with an Indian LLM when it comes to teaching undergraduates isn't that much anymore. They mostly rely on their own undergrad level training anyways.

The other point is something that the advocates for the 2 year LLM are using in a distorted manner. Most of the good faculty members who have taught the NLU graduates in their LLB days were lacking in foreign LLMs too, but were good teachers nonetheless. This is being shown an example of how the two year LLMs used to produce better teachers. Which is not fully accurate. The same LLM also produced the atrocious teachers. Basically the overall effect of the LLM programme on the teaching prowess of freshers itself is increasingly coming under spotlight. Would be nice to see some focused research done on that.
Burying the lead 12 Feb 2021, 08:39
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So I don’t even know if I agree with you about Harvard- I’ve seen my share of dunces with an llm from there. In my experience- the smaller the llm program- the more well trained the student is. Having said that. A “good” student with an Indian LLM does not compare to people who went to small programmes in foreign universities, and maybe even most students who went to your NYU, Harvard, Chicago. And it’s not their fault- they might’ve even topped their undergraduate NLU class- but the resources just aren’t there for skill development and rigourous research. This is not stuff you can learn on your own. They don’t have people at these universities who could guide them and teach them the same way that academics abroad do. This is not an individual problem- it’s an institutional problem.

If your entire university only has two- three competent professors- your llm students aren’t going to have much to show at the end of one or two years.

I also really don’t care for the metric of “good teachers” in my experience students have increasingly been applying the label to mediocre folks who give them easy grades, deliver long lectures and don’t expect students to put in much effort. A good teacher used to mean someone who expanded your mind and taught you things you could carry with you your whole life. Nowadays it just means someone who makes your day to day easy as possible.

I’d rather we talk about teachers with integrity and with a commitment to new and important research, and who take pedagogy seriously.
Guest 12 Feb 2021, 18:47
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@4.2.1: You are possible a 1st or 2nd year kid pretending to be an expert on academics. Your post is full of inaccuracies.
Guest 12 Feb 2021, 18:44
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@4.2: Hear hear!
Dr.Ravindran pranathar 12 Feb 2021, 14:45
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One year LLM cannot bring much knolwdge.. A two year LLM is that much better for some academic rigor. How is a short one year foreign LLM superior when it is tilted heavily towards western law, let alone asian law or even Indian law? The foreign LLM holder cant do much here in India. The one year LLM is a scandalous fad that must be nipped in the bud. Well done, BCI who have taken the burgeoning elitist bull by its horns.
Guest 12 Feb 2021, 15:30
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I'm not even going into your other points (plenty of other readers would), but how exactly is a one year LLM more elitist than a two year one, considering that the latter requires more money, opportunity cost and other resources? At least read what you're writing!
Ayooo 12 Feb 2021, 16:39
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The law isn’t some insular country specific thing. It’s not like indian llm students learn the Manusmriti. So much of our law is borrowed from the british. And so much of our jurisprudence takes cues from across the world. Not to mention international human rights and commercial and trade laws.
And when you study abroad you learn how to think about the law, not just bare acts and cases.
Guest 12 Feb 2021, 18:49
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A few BCI bots, TLC trolls and Manan Mishra maniacs posting here!
Guest 12 Feb 2021, 18:50
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Vijaykumar must address the rumours on LI regarding whether he backed 2 year LLMs. We can't have trojan horses in the CLAT Consortium. Mitra needs to speak up too. Kian, please contact them.
Guest 12 Feb 2021, 18:59
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Old school stalwarts like Upendra Baxi, MP Singh, SP Sathe and Moolchand Sharma all had foreign LLMs.
Guest 12 Feb 2021, 19:03
Troll
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Manan = Voldemort
Faizan = Harry Potter
Sudhir = Malfoy
Guest 13 Feb 2021, 06:12
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Someone tell Faizan this is not a "victory". Only a deferment to 2022 happened and Bobde was too scared to take on the BCI. The consortium is also divided, because of Sudhir and VVK.
Guest 17 Feb 2021, 08:29
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https://theprint.in/india/education/ugc-wants-university-students-to-write-25-feb-cow-science-exam-asks-v-cs-to-promote-it/606431/

Since UGC has such important matters on its plate, it could care less what BCI is f***ing. The former never really cared. It took some initiative when Sibal was in HRD. Basically this is a fight for revenue cake between NLU Consortium and BCI. Also some insecure VCs of NLUs who feel that their days and ways are numbered in the Consortium (or the consortium itself at risk of irrelevance should NLS exit CLAT and maybe join hands with NLUD and Jindal) would prefer BCI control for their personal gains
Guest 18 Feb 2021, 08:45
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DU, JGLS, KIIT and IIT Kharagpur are all exempt from this notification as they have IOE status.
IIL Insider 20 Feb 2021, 18:09
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It is NL Mitra who batted for the two year LLM and will now advise IIL to professionalise law taechers and academise lawyers who will be appointed as BCI fellows in all law universities. The real plan is to appoint cronies [...] in all law universities.
Guest 21 Feb 2021, 06:32
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I can confirm about Mitra's support for the 2-year LLM. Don't really know about the rest.
Guest 21 Feb 2021, 08:32
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Reported both common 13 and 13.1 for defamation and fake news against Prof Mitra and Manan Mishra. Possibly someone with a grudge against Manan Mishra, or an old student of Prof Mitra's from NLSIU or NLUJ with a grudge. Prof Mitra has better things to do and is very old.
Guest 21 Feb 2021, 10:55
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How is 13.1 defamatory? You are someone who clearly has no interaction with Prof. Mitra in real life. Despite his age, he's quite active, and he hasn't exactly concealed his view about the 2 year LLM in the last 4-5 years. He'd come down to my NLU actually back in 2019 and was quite vocal about the terrible standard of current Indian 1 year LLM and how he'd made the reco as a committee member to the BCI to shift back to the 2-year thing.