WB sneaks in NUJS 30% domicile reservation, removes autonomy over fees • Student pleas ignored [READ PETITION]

WB sneaks NUJS reservation through legislature
WB sneaks NUJS reservation through legislature

The West Bengal government has quietly passed its long-pending amendment to the NUJS Kolkata establishing statute, formalising a 30% local domicile reservation.

It is not yet sure whether this would take effect from this year or only from next year, since the CLAT preferences and allotments are already in progress.

It is understood that the Executive Council is yet to take a final decision on this.

The gazetted notification, dated 21 May 2019 and assented by the WB governor, has also removed autonomy from the university to set tuition fees, which will instead now be determined by the state government.

An additional stipulation requires free tuition for students from poorer backgrounds, which would be defined by the state government:

The University shall allow free-ship [sic] in tuition fees to at least five per centum [sic] of their total strength to students belonging to poor and economically backward classes.

As we had reported in November 2018, the government had tabled the bill without much discussion, which had been criticised by the student body.

As we had reported earlier this month, NUJS chancellor had finally cleared its next vice-chancellor Prof NK Chakrabarti, after NUJS had been run by former judge Amit Talukdar for 15 months.

On 28th November, 2018 after the bill was passed unanimously by the assembly, a delegation of four students from NUJS’ SJA had met the WB governor.

They told him of the legal and practical problems with the implementation of the bill. After the meeting, the bill had remained unsigned for 6 months.

See full SJA representation to WB below.

NUJS SJA representation to governor

Comments

Guest 19 Jun 2019, 09:28
+13 -32
Very very good move by the Mamata Government. If there are other States who are ensuring protectionism for their students, there is no reason why WB students should be deprived. One must understand that these are State Universities under the State Legislature so the State Residents have a right to these universities.

I am all for Nationalisation of NLUs and a day when there is no State quotas for NLUs . But that has to be through a central legislation and till then some state students cannot derive benefits while other state students be deprived.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 09:47
+21 -6
Other state governments have been providing tons of funds to those NLUs. Apart from a measly piece of land and an interest free loan to start with, when has the Bengal government given any money to NUJS? Does it even have any money to spare?
The Flash 19 Jun 2019, 09:50
+21 -2
My theories on who posted comment 1:

1. Professor from TMC gang.
2. Annoying troll.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 10:21
+6 -16
I am actually a very vocal opponent of Mamata and happened to have voted for BJP in the last General Elections. However, when it comes to the rights of the State students we support the domicile system. If you don’t like the domicile in NUJS please feel free to opt for some other National Law University. we Bengalis will be more than happy to study in NUJS.

Regarding funding you have a legitimate point though it is seriously in question how much other states with domicile actually help their universities. If you feel the Government should extend more funding please feel free to petition and meet the CM and Law Minister regarding the same. I am sure they will hear you. Other than that you have no case when it comes to domicile.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 10:26
+13 -0
State government doesn't even pay DA to its own employees, not even sixth pay commission salaries, let alone seventh. There's less than zero chance of it ever giving any fund to NUJS in the near future. It just wants to take populist steps like this. If it wanted 5% students to study for free, it could have easily arranged for scholarships for those students. It's easy enough to do charity with other people's money.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 15:43
+5 -0
Scholership will also not be free and to be given from people's money only which is called Tax
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 16:26
+4 -0
Yes, but state has to actually provide for it in its budget, which is only fair, since it's going to take political credit for it. This way, the university loses out on the fees (quite possibly the remaining students would end up paying a hiked fee for it eventually), state has zero responsibility to make up for it and still would claim credit. That's just not cricket, as they say.
Joy Bangla 19 Jun 2019, 10:29
+20 -3
I'm a Bengali studying at NUJS at present and I strongly condemn 1.2.1, his deluded mentality and warped sense of logic. We don't need domicile quota to make it to NLUs. Those of us who are good enough are already doing it anyway. Unlike caste-based or even economic reservations, domicile reservation of this sort is nothing but a sham.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 11:09
+4 -16
I didn’t know that studying in NUJS gave you the authority to speak about 1000s of clat aspirants from West Bengal. Or speak on behalf of residents of West Bengal. Congratulations to you for making it to NUJS, just don’t be stupid when you make statements like “we don’t need domicile quota to get into NUJS”. You are noone to speak on behalf of other CLAT takers from West Bengal who miss NUJS by a few marks and then have to go to Universities in other states. If Gujarat, Andhra Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh etc etc can have domicile for its state students WB can very well have one for its own.

Also there is no doubt that NUJS student standards are falling when one of its students comes up and says “domicile reservation of this sort is nothing but a sham”. Please go and read up on domicile reservations kid, before making juvenile statements on LegallyIndia.
Joy Bangla 19 Jun 2019, 12:07
+17 -1
Thank you for your anonymous pearls of wisdom. Although apart from condescension, there was absolutely nothing in terms of logic in it. I have read about domicile reservations and arguments for and against those. Written by people giving their actual names, too. The only plausible argument for it is that people who are voting a state government into power have expectations to be treated differentially by institutions receiving state support and resources. Not only do I not agree to it, it doesn't even apply to NUJS, since it receives negligible to no support from the state at all. As for your other argument about people missing out for a few marks, are you saying only 39 students deserve to be worry-free in that respect? Going by that logic, why not make 100% domicile? This benefit will anyway be taken by the privileged students residing in or near metro city (Kolkata) who can avail all those resources for CLAT training together with domicile and unlikely to reach students from rural or interior parts of Bengal. So who does it benefit really? Incidentally, how much of a domicile quota do the law colleges under Calcutta University have at present? Should be at least 50% by your logic, no? After all, those are government colleges where the state in actually spending resources. So drop the condescension and talk sense, maybe. If you have an issue with the quality of one or more NUJS grads, take appropriate steps about it if you are in a position to do so, or else keep your mouth shut instead of making vague insinuations or generalizations without facts backing those up.
Lol 19 Jun 2019, 13:07
+1 -11
The entire existence of NUJS depends upon the State of West Bengal and its legislative assembly, who are representatives of the people of West Bengal. The land in which you study is a gift from the people of West Bengal. The Buildings which you study in is a gift from the people of West Bengal. The act which gives your institution legitimacy is given by the people of West Bengal. Therefore, what percentage of students from the state will study in ‘West Bengal’ National University of Juridical Sciences will also depend upon the people of West Bengal who act through the legislative assembly of West Bengal. In anycase, if you ask me how much should be the percentage of domicile quota it should ideally be 50 percent like GNLU.

The NUJS was, is and will always be a State University. Instead of wasting your time fighting domicile (in which you have no case) you might as well petition the Government to increase your funding and present other related grievances. Also while you have no empirical backing to show that Kolkata students are the only one to get benefit from increase of seats I would much rather have students of Kolkata studying in NUJS than students from other states of India.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 14:23
+3 -0
Increase funding? That would imply the government presently provides any fund. Which it doesn't. Nor is the government picking up the tab for the 5% people whom they are saying the university must take in for free. The state could have provided scholarships to those students if it was that keen. It is the government's sole intention to make the university financially dependent on the government, so that it can dictate day-to-day affairs within the university, put its stooges in decision making positions, get the sons and daughters of politicians through the backdoor and in general, destroy the institution. It's the same template it has followed in destroying most of the educational institutes of repute in the state, by taking away their autonomy directly or indirectly. Hence a bill that has been brought without zero consultation with stakeholders and been signed by the governor surreptitiously in the midst of an election when the government probably had more important matters to consider.
desperado 19 Jun 2019, 12:24
+8 -2
Lol. Some people actuall seem to think that SJA can stop state government. Whether TMC or BJP, noone will dare to oppose a quota for bengalis in Bengal. Whether state government pays or not, NUJS is state property. You guys have a right to study here, not to decide policy.
NUJS Student 19 Jun 2019, 12:47
+10 -1
Our right to study here also involves a legitimate expectation in terms of getting jobs after graduation. Which isn't available in Bengal. Hence we need to go outside. And believe it or not, any university having substantial domicile reservation is not thought of highly by any recruiter. This has affected NLIU Bhopal adversely in the past. This may be just a selfish reason to oppose such a quota, but just like our right to study, we are also entitled to such opposition. SJA may not be able to withstand state government's insidious attempts to interfere. That doesn't mean we have to lie down in front of them and make their job easier. Law school has given us that much sense.
kee hoche 19 Jun 2019, 12:48
+3 -6
Itna pyaar hai tumko bangali bhasa se, toh bolona didi ko ki NUJS exam bas bangali log likh sokta hai. Ebhen better, exam hi bangali mein bana dalo. NUJS se N hata do.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 14:39
+6 -3
Centre is already trying to have all exams in Hindi for the benefit of you cow belt [...]. Go and sit for those, since Modiji is doing it for you.
RIP NUJS 19 Jun 2019, 09:31
+4 -10
This and the appointment of NKC (over VCV) officially completes the Trinamul-isation of NUJS and sets it firmly towards the course of decline and tier 2 NLU status. The students refused to exercise the option of petitioning the Supreme Court or staging a protest. They instead sided with factions in the faculty, bribed with easy marks. You reap what you sow.
Outsider 19 Jun 2019, 12:02
+3 -3
Your observation that "the students instead sided with 'factions in the faculty', bribed with easy marks. You reap what you sow." reveals the reality of most of the NLUs in North India.
But is there any remedy to get out of this malaise.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 09:39
+19 -2
You fools, there is no point in writing to the Governor, who is bound to sign the Act. You have to fight Mamata's fire with fire -- go on strike like the medical students against this evil tyrant. Having divided Bengal on religious lines, she is now trying to divide Bengal on language lines and oppose "outsiders".

Mamata is on the backfoot after elections and the media is after her. The time to protest is NOW.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 09:42
+15 -18
When the students themselves say in the petition that NUJS is finished, CLAT aspirants will be well advised to go by the following preference:

1. NLSIU
2. NLUD/NALSAR
3 NLUJ/NLIU/GNLU
4. NLUO
5. MNLU/RGNUL/RMLNLU
6. HNLU/CNLU/NUJS
Check for Update 19 Jun 2019, 10:11
+2 -0
Kian, have you checked with SJA outgoing/incoming leadership? Have they taken this up with the university officials etc? Update, please.
SJA Moleman 19 Jun 2019, 10:31
+4 -0
Current officials are state chamchas, put here to do exactly this. They aren't going to listen to any reason. The time has come for open protests and strikes to secure our rights. Inquilab zindabad!
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 10:55
+8 -2
Let's pray that HD Kumaraswamy approves the 50% domicile bill for NLSIU and KC Rao the 85% proposal for NALSAR. If that happens NUJS may even overtake them :)
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 10:56
+12 -1
[img]https://images.news18.com/ibnlive/uploads/2019/05/mamata-banerjee1.jpg[/img]
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 10:57
+5 -1
New VC appointment shows domicile quota in VC appointment also! Faculty up next.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 11:34
+4 -0
He'd been domiciled in Odisha for over a decade. Wouldn't have qualified in that case. :D
Guest 20 Jun 2019, 03:24
+2 -0
22 out of 33 of the current faculty members are already Bengali and domiciled in Bengal.
Guest 420 20 Jun 2019, 10:00
+2 -0
Nujs has 33 faculty members? I heard there was a serious shortage. It had the worst student faculty ratio!
Guest 20 Jun 2019, 13:05
+2 -0
That's real news. As is this. NUJS currently has close to 675 students. The ratio is still over 20:1. This number includes social science teachers and a faculty in emeritus position and the contractual teachers.
Guest 20 Jun 2019, 13:13
+2 -0
Adding on to 8.2.1.1, some of these 33 only teach LLM students because it involves less workload compared to LLB.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 11:00
+3 -1
For heaven's sake, you are law students, either file a PIL opposing it or a PIL demanding the quota in NALSAR Sravan Dasoju is calling for!
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 11:01
+14 -3
Basically NUJS is now GLC Kolkata with good placements.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 11:04
+2 -0
Arjun, please stop writing on and on about online courses and write about this instead for the Wire.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 12:17
+5 -1
He only goes after perceived illegalities. This is all legal and on the up and up.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 11:05
+1 -0
This applies from 2020 onwards, right? Still time to fight it.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 11:35
+1 -0
No, state wants for it to be implemented from this year.
Hok Kolorob 19 Jun 2019, 11:07
+7 -0
This comment thread will become a raging fire of vested interests, but before that happens :-
What effect does domicile reservations have in a college, if it is proven to be a negative factor, then the college must protest.
Calcutta has always been ahead when it comes to students protesting the inefficiencies of their respective administrations, NUJS should do the same, strongly worded letters to the Governor don't mean anything - there should be physical protests, at the residence of the CJ, the HC, Nabanna and the campus itself. There should be a strong online movement as well - this should be brought into the mainstream, there should be news vans, and all of this has to happen FAST.
Some people here have already started to write NUJS off for some reason, idk what problems you have, did a Noojie reject your advances, did you lose to them in some moot or PD, do you just hate Calcutta? Every year, for the last 3-4 years when NUJS has been sparring with the admin, their results have been brilliant, so it will take much more than this to bring NUJS down.
At the same time the SJA has to take a firm stand and not stop until this mess is sorted. A new batch of students are coming in, it needs to be explained to them that these protests aren't "college students wasting time" but a necessary step. Let them join you. I believe in NUJS and I hope they get things sorted.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 11:08
+4 -0
Next step: Initiate an alumni petition and generate media coverage critical of Mamata. Then approach the courts. Mamata is going to lose in 2021 and is desperate, so don't be afraid of her.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 11:15
+4 -1
[i]In her panic to create an alternative narrative to the BJP, West Bengal chief minister Mamata Banerjee is creating a new kind of divide – that of language. She recently said that those living in Bengal must speak in Bangla. She vowed to never let BJP “corner” Bengalis. But politics of language chauvinism is decades old in India– even for states like Tamil Nadu. Mamata cannot be silent on the issue of migrants – which the BJP is exaggerating – but discriminate against a sizeable number of non-Bangla speakers in her state.[/i]

From the Print:
https://theprint.in/opinion/mamata-banerjees-only-bangla-in-bengal-wont-get-her-votes-left-did-same-failed/251809/
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 11:16
+4 -0
The national media has its eyes on Bengal right now. There is no better time than now to protest and get good publicity.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 11:51
+3 -9
I don’t know on what basis these noojies are jibber jabbering about domicile. Most of these people are themselves from the cow belt or the south where their states have domicile in their own National Law Universities. We the people of West Bengal stand firmly behind WB Government on introducing domicile
And infact urge them to increase it to 50%. Those who don’t like WB domicile please stay in your cow belt we don’t need you here.
Joy Bangla 19 Jun 2019, 12:11
+15 -1
Spoken like a truly enlightened and educated person. Where's the moral high ground that you are climbing on to coming from then, compared to to those residing in 'cow belt' or 'down south'?
Lol 19 Jun 2019, 13:11
+3 -8
There is no question of moral high ground here. Its a question of legitimate rights of bengalis. If you are a half decent lawyer and protesting against the domicile you must know that you have no case. If you file a case regarding this in court you will lose. So please accept it and move on.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 14:15
+6 -0
The moral high ground question comes not from your demand about domicile, but from the simultaneous derision expressed towards people from regions already having domicile quota. If you had any sense of logic, you would have got that yourself. You are as bad as any of those whom you are laughing at, if not worse.
Mamata is a Hitler 19 Jun 2019, 12:07
+5 -0
There is a pesky TMC troll on LI who aggressively defending NKC, defending domicile quota etc, as anon Guest. Multiple times on each thread.
Lol 19 Jun 2019, 13:09
+0 -9
I defend the WB quota and I am no TMC troll. Its my state and we have the first right to the State universities in our state. If you have a problem please find yourself another nlu to study.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 14:13
+6 -0
State universities are run with state government funds. Try putting the NUJS faculty on state government salary and see how many of the few good ones left stay back.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 12:10
+3 -0
SJA keeps turning the other cheek like Gandhi and keeps getting slapped. You need to declare all out war against this LOSER CM who is getting booted out in 2021 anyway.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 12:15
+3 -1
I am amazed at how passively the students are allowing Mamata's gang to take over. If CNLU can oppose PIB why can't NUJS oppose NKC? At least ask for a full disclosure of the CU inquiry report against him? And why not challenge the domicile quota in courts on the ground on the EC not being consulted? You may lose the case, but why not try?
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 12:49
+4 -1
Bhai, tu file kar na! Kisne manaa kiya hai?
Captive State 19 Jun 2019, 12:16
+5 -0
And so the insider-outsider nonsense starts. Be that as it may, I think political parties across the board are making an assault on educational institutions. In UP we now have this coming up https://www.ndtv.com/cities/uttar-pradesh-government-clears-ordinance-to-ban-anti-national-activities-on-campus-of-private-unive-2055720?pfrom=home-topstories

Politicians do not like free thinking, dissent, debate. It scares them. In contrast, populist, including jingoistic measures have often proved electorally useful. Since the state has the power to legislate, it will. The judges will check the political weather and rule accordingly. Soon we will all be living and studying in captive states.
Ahem 19 Jun 2019, 12:33
+2 -0
So says the CJI and Chancellor of NLSIU and NUJS https://theprint.in/india/governance/judiciary/judiciary-must-stand-up-to-populist-forces-protect-constitutional-ethos-cji-ranjan-gogoi/251959/

Maybe the CJI can also look into the autonomy of these two law schools as well? Doubtful. He has so much on his plate already.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 12:48
+4 -0
So many characters to assail (other than his own, of course).
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 12:51
+2 -0
Compromise solution: Open two campuses of NUJS in two TMC constituencies. Impose 80% domicile quota there, but spare NUJS Kolkata.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 12:57
+2 -0
They are gonna do that anyway. Two separate NLUs at Asansol and Siliguri. They would do this too at the same time. Who is going to stop them? The spineless SJA and GB? The corrupt and servile admin? The bickering and senseless members of the faculty?
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 13:00
+3 -0
TOI: West Bengal mulls 20% domicile quota in medical colleges

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata/state-mulls-20-domicile-quota-in-med-colleges/articleshow/69779616.cms

As you can clearly see, this is all political. The response from the students must also be political. Remember that the Congress Lok Sabha leader of opposition is now Adhir Chowdhury (Mamata's biggest enemy), while the BJP and Left hate Mamata. So just petition these parties and say she is interfering in NUJS affairs.
Lol 19 Jun 2019, 13:31
+5 -1
If you think BJP or congress will support all of you to stop getting bengalis domicile in their own state you are living in la la land. Any party which will support such a stance will be doing a waterloo before elections. So good luck.
NLU Stud 19 Jun 2019, 13:06
+1 -1
Law firms don't seem to care. They will continue to come. So how does this issue even matter? Placements are all that count.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 13:07
+4 -0
Aparna Sen has written this today. There is a backlash against Mamata's cheap regional and communal politics. Students will get a lot of sympathy if they protest (as well as national media coverage).

[quote]The Kolkata we grew up in — then known as Calcutta — was a very diverse, secular, pluralistic and tolerant place.Not only were there Hindus and Muslims living in harmony, there were Christians, Jews, Armenians, Anglo-Indians, Parsis and a host of other diverse peoples as well... Mamata Banerjee had meanwhile come into power with a huge popular mandate. There was no need for her to don a veil to show solidarity with Muslims. Good governance would have been enough. Why were Muslim youths not penalised when they broke traffic rules? That has angered many Hindus. [/quote]

https://www.dailyo.in/lifestyle/mamata-banerjee-tmc-minority-appeasement-doctors-strike-bjp-in-bengal/story/1/31155.html
Schadenfreude 19 Jun 2019, 13:41
+5 -3
God feel so happy seeing the Noojies crying today about domicile. Not too long ago these Noojies used to badmouth Nalsar, Nliu and Gnlu for having domicile. [...] Thank you Mamata. Just hope this gets increased to 50 percent now.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 14:37
+2 -0
When and where have you found NUJS students badmouthing other NLUs for their domicile quota exactly? Considering they have had a domicile quota implemented for at least the last three years?
Schadenfreude 19 Jun 2019, 17:14
+0 -0
6 years back when I was taking admission lol.
Anonymous Guest 19 Jun 2019, 17:06
+3 -1
Reservation is for good. Red letter day for nujs
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 17:33
+1 -3
Several members of the Justice League, young and old, have already said that they are very happy that they would be getting to teach more Bengali students rather than the rowdy group that they get these days.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 20:59
+1 -1
Students are at fault too...you suck up to ppl like Rather Particular when he should be booted out for plagiarism under the UGC rules, which apply retrospectively.
Guest 20 Jun 2019, 05:19
+4 -1
Don't forget the other members of JL, most of whom rarely takes classes, are busy plotting and planning with the PA and have no time for students, all the while pretending they are busy although they don't even submit exam evaluation months after the due date.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 21:58
+0 -1
This is only the beginning. Just wait till NKC takes over.
Guest 19 Jun 2019, 22:57
+0 -0
One of the saddest things is how certain vested interests have created a rift between students and alumni through lies and fake news. Time to heal the rift and unite.
Mr Counsel 19 Jun 2019, 23:14
+2 -1
Better to fight and lose honourably than not fight at all. The SJA must now do the following ASAP:

1. Joint student and alumni petition -- 500 signatures to begin with. I will be good if there are many names with visible Bengali surnames, as well as people spread across the globe.

2. Approach the courts.

3. Separate outreach to legal luminaries, including those with a Bengal connection (Justice Ruma Pal, Pinaki Ghosh, Vikramjit Banerjee, Jayanta Mitra, Anindya Mitra etc). Justice AK Ganguly would have been great as he is an arch opponent of Mamata, but the episode with NUJS naturally rules him out (unfortunately, Shamnad Basheer made it a media circus to get back at Bhat).

4. Generate sympathy among the media and civil society --- everyone is angry with Mamata. Now even eminent Muslim intellectuals have written condemning her appeasement policy:
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/muslim-citizens-kolkata-letter-mamata-banerjee-bengal-doctors-strike-ushoshi-sengupta-assault-1552187-2019-06-19

5. Reach out to the Congress, BJP and Left using a different angle (lack of funding and corrupt admin). Every party hates Mamata, and even Sonia Gandhi has given her a big slap by appointing Adhir Chowdury as Congress Lok Sabha head (her worst enemy and her biggest nightmare).
Guest 20 Jun 2019, 00:14
+1 -0
Beyond the outsider-insider nonsense, the politicking will ensure that another institution bites the dust in this state. Whatever little outlasted the Red scourge is now being hollowed out https://thewire.in/caste/rabindra-bharati-university-casteist-taunt-partha-chatterjee-tmc-kolkata

Assuming Didi loves Chandrababu Naidu (maybe no longer that useful after electoral loss) she could learn from him how he ensured that ISB was set up in Hyderabad and has flourished despite all the politics and state reorganization. Sure the students pay a bomb and MBA and LLB are apples and oranges. The point is while political favours will be traded, if politicos want, certain campuses remain free of their corrosive touch.

I will disagree that the Reds did not mess around with NUJS. To put it gently, there were powerful individuals who made hay but not whole-of-a-party interest. That's how the Green grass started growing here. But now we are caught in the political melee. This sneak attack has been in the works and was dutifully facilitated by God, Lord Taluk and Sensational. The other two interested souls are Bald (Legal) Eagle and Ray of Light.

This amendment is only the beginning. And everyone is in it. Yes, the judiciary as well. So think twice before protesting or approaching the courts. It can be part of a careful strategy but our detractors fully expect us to do those. They literally want us to do it. Why? Because they are ready and we are not. We no longer have the element of surprise with us.

Do we roll over? No. Do we go for knee-jerk reactions? Sure, if we are jerks. Chance favours the prepared mind. We wait and strike when we are least expected.
Guest 20 Jun 2019, 05:17
+0 -0
Nobody expects you to do anything ever. So you are always least expected, don't you worry.
Guest 20 Jun 2019, 00:21
+1 -0
https://thewire.in/women/nift-hyderabad-fires-56-housekeepers-who-accused-employee-of-sexual-harassment

Did this not happen because someone got ticked off and sent to a different floor; and another got evicted from campus recently?

But what about the fellow who
Guest 20 Jun 2019, 00:48
+0 -1
Mamata will be under pressure from all sides in the next few weeks because the CBI is intensifying investigations in the Saradha and Narada scams. Ideal time for SJA to protest against her, as her fortress is crumbling.
Guest 20 Jun 2019, 02:07
+2 -1
The TMC gang in the admin/EC will change colours overnight if BJP comes to power. These people have no morals. They will happily wear saffron headbands, badmouth Mamata and shout Jai Shri Ram.
Guest 20 Jun 2019, 02:21
+3 -0
In today's India Today:

[i]Blindsided by the Bharatiya Janata Party's (BJP) stupendous success in West Bengal in the 2019 Lok Sabha elections, Mamata Banerjee is now pandering to the latent Bengali sub-nationalism.
...
Mamata should know better. Equating Hindi speakers with BJP supporters cannot explain the 18 seats that BJP won in West Bengal. Lakhs of Rabindrasangeet-singing, fish-eating Bengalis were sold on the Modi dream and voted for him.

[/i]

https://www.indiatoday.in/news-analysis/story/politics-of-parochialism-why-mamata-banerjee-and-others-are-losing-1552373-2019-06-20
Guest 20 Jun 2019, 04:57
+1 -1
The students must unite and file a petition before the SC. Two things will happen:

1. Petition gets thrown out, there is pressure on NLSIU and NALSAR to impose quotas, a Nationalise NLUs movement happens (which NLSIU students have been avoiding for selfish reasons).

2. Petition gets accepted. Big victory.
Guest 20 Jun 2019, 05:04
+2 -1
Shamnad Basheer should speak out if he truly cares about NUJS over personal interests.
Guest 20 Jun 2019, 05:16
+5 -1
If he did, he'd have stayed back and helped counter Bhat's atrocities. He didn't.
Guest 20 Jun 2019, 05:10
+3 -1
CASE NO.:
Writ Petition (civil) 35 of 2019

PETITIONER:
Student Juridical Association & Ors.

RESPONDENT:
Union of India, CLAT Consortium, Bar Council of India, Govt of West Bengal, & the Vice Chancellor and Registrar, WBNUJS.

BENCH:
D.Y. CHANDRACHUD & HEMANT GUPTA
Guest 20 Jun 2019, 05:22
+1 -5
Is the SJA going to take up on what basis Vivekanandan was looked over for the VC post despite a much better CV? Some TMC chelas posting on LI tried to distract from the problem Vivekanandan will get the NLUD VC post (completely rubbish).
Not the end 20 Jun 2019, 05:58
+3 -1
What is the big deal of there is a horizontal reservation of 30 % ? There was a SC/ST reservation and NRI quota for ever and the insitution seems to have managed fine.
Guest 20 Jun 2019, 06:11
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The Telegraph (Didi's biggest bootlickers in the media) have wrongly claimed that domicile quota is at force in NLSIU. But their report says one interesting thing. Very interesting how the meeting is scheduled before the students assemble on campus.

[quote]The executive council of the institute, which is its highest policy-making body, will take the decision on whether the 30 per cent reservation can be implemented from this year or not, the registrar said.

“A copy of the gazette notification has reached the university on Tuesday. But the executive council will decide whether the quota will be implemented this year,” Sen told Metro.

The executive council is slated to meet on June 29.

The authorities couldn’t be sure whether the 30 per cent quota for local students would take effect from this year or only from next year because Clat (Common Law Admission Test) results were declared four days before the issuing of the gazette notification and the process of allotments of seats are already in progress, the official said.[/quote]


https://www.telegraphindia.com/states/west-bengal/30-quota-for-bengal-at-nujs/cid/1692795
NUJS ALUM 15 20 Jun 2019, 09:06
+5 -5
R.I.P NUJS.

This is a downward spiral - leading to NUJS' death. Tomorrow the Govt will lower the tuition fee and will increase domicile quota leading to lack of financial capacity and student quality. High time that firms realise the reality of NUJS and its deteriorating quality on all levels.
Guest 20 Jun 2019, 09:33
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Since you are a self-proclaimed alumnus, what has been your contribution towards arresting this so-called fall in standard or towards institutional welfare since you've graduated? Beyond posting anon comments on LI, that is. Criticizing from outside without taking responsibility for it is always easy.
NUJS ALUM 15 20 Jun 2019, 12:25
+5 -4
Because NUJS, in its present state, doesn't deserve anyone's intervention. They're responsible for their own actions -- for being too cynical of other institutions, of their peers. I've been witnessing this attitude of so-called 'Noojies' for a long time now!

Grow up! Else, people will prefer NLUO aboe WBNUJS (soon to be WBUJS).
Guest 20 Jun 2019, 13:08
+3 -1
Forget about the present state, when did you ever try to intervene? The only sentiment visible from your comment are derision and wrath. Nothing constructive. It doesn't befit an alumnus.
Guest 20 Jun 2019, 11:07
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I am sharing a Facebook thread on this news by KIIT students. I am censoring the names. This tells you why the shocking manner in which VCV was denied the post is a big issue that the SJA must raise.


[img]https://i.imgur.com/EBoRokT.png[/img]
Pro Tip 20 Jun 2019, 13:05
+10 -8
When is Prof. N.K. Chakrabarti formally joining WBNUJS as its next Vice-Chancellor? I have only met him once at a conference and he seemed to have very poor communication skills.
Guest 20 Jun 2019, 16:32
+8 -9
He's managed to communicate his abilities well enough to people who actually matter to have secured this position. I don't believe the same can be said about you, since your only achievement so far seems to be sniping at other people anonymously.
RT 20 Jun 2019, 21:50
+5 -3
LOL, the TMC/NKC chela at it again! Ok, let's make you happy: NKC is better than Menon, Chimni and MP Singh combined!
Guest 21 Jun 2019, 03:36
+4 -4
I don't know that and have never said so, but he's certainly better than you trolls who seem to have no other job than to pass derisive comments about other people anonymously. Full of toxic mentality, that's what you are, who has never done a positive or constructive thing to help others in life. Don't even mention the likes of Menon, you're worth less than even their discarded toenails.
Radiohead 20 Jun 2019, 21:56
+4 -0
I too have seen him once and agree with the communication skills bit...while this may be unimportant for a scholar, it is certainly important for a Vice Chancellor. But more worrying is what KIIT students have to say about his admin skills (or la k of it). It looks like PIB part 2.

In comparison, Vivekanandan is very articulate with great PR skills...not required for a scholar but definitely for a VC.
Guest 21 Jun 2019, 05:50
+6 -0
PIB's problems weren't limited to his communication skills. Had that been the case, nobody would have had much of an issue with him. He was insecure, opportunistic, distrustful, not a believer in due process, engaged in blatant nepotism and believed wrongly that he was adept in playing divide-and-rule. There's no reason to believe yet that the new guy suffers from these ailments. Of course, he may prove to be unsuitable for the job. So may VCV. The thing is, I may believe that VCV was the better candidate, but on pen-and-paper, the difference is not as wide as to allege malafide, especially when the process has been vetted by the CJI, who certainly is not beholden to the state. Copy-pasting some random KIIT students' comments from Facebook about NKC proves very little. There are many NALSAR students for instance, who would undoubtedly say similar things about Faizan Mustafa (or Sarkar). That doesn't mean KIIT has worsened during his leadership, or NALSAR during Faizan's. More data is needed to establish that.
Guest 20 Jun 2019, 22:06
+1 -1
Interim bug attack https://www.telegraphindia.com/states/west-bengal/interim-vc-likely-for-ju/cid/1692761?ref=more-from-west-bengal_west-bengal-page

Hopefully JU will have a better experience https://www.telegraphindia.com/states/west-bengal/retired-judge-for-ju-probe/cid/1692777?ref=west-bengal_west-bengal-page

NUJS has suffered under a retired HC judge who sold us out for a song along with a Sensational Registrar.

Time to #OmitTalukdar #SikhaSentPacking
Guest 20 Jun 2019, 22:47
+0 -0
Please please try and convince the EC to apply it from next year. After that, the following is possible:

1. Karnataka and Telengaga follow suit with domicile quotas at NLSIU and NALSAR, which restores parity.

2. If not, protest and petitions by NUJS only.

3. If yes, then all NLUs unite and seek INI status and parity with IITs and IIMs.
Guest 21 Jun 2019, 00:51
+0 -0
Telegraph reporting 90% JU domicile quota to be in force from this year itself. NUJS too?

[img]https://epaper.telegraphindia.com//epaperimages/21062019/21062019-md-hr-9/163746517.jpg[/img]
Real 21 Jun 2019, 08:22
+2 -1
Do you need feedback about NKC? Ask the great AKP, who wanted to file a defamation suit against him. AKP is the real hero.............
Guest 21 Jun 2019, 09:30
+5 -1
Why didn't he? What stopped him?
Guest 22 Jun 2019, 03:00
+4 -0
I feel that it is very important for a law school professor at an NLU to be highly proficient in English --- not the accent, but definitely vocabulary and grammar. You are expected to read books and cases from the US, UK and the Indian Supreme Court, communicate them effectively to students, and publish articles on them.
Guest 22 Jun 2019, 04:57
+4 -0
I'd settle for them being able to write and speak accurately (and read too). Yeah, accents and dictions don't matter, they are just colonial hangovers. The Americans changed Brit English to suit themselves, didn't harm their growth any. Even if a faculty member at the beginning is uncomfortable with the language, there is no reason why they can't work at it and reach this level in the first couple of years or so.
Guest 22 Jun 2019, 07:27
+1 -1
A Bengali extremist organisation called Bangla Pakkho (headed by TMC troll Garga Chatterjee) is demanding domicile quota at NUJS. And people say the protest should not be political!
Guest 22 Jun 2019, 07:53
+4 -0
Political, perhaps. BJP advocacy, definitely not. That's like trying to replace the frying pan with the fire. If GC is considered a TMC troll, by the way, then almost everybody speaking about Modi Magic is a BJP troll. In fact, that's probably accurate. Blind versus blind. Oaf versus oaf.
Guest 22 Jun 2019, 19:06
+2 -0
Does anyone have a copy of the old NUJS magazine (2008 or 2009) that featured an interview of Sudhir Krishnaswamy by the students? I remember he made some pretty arrogant remarks.
Future of NUJS 23 Jun 2019, 21:28
+2 -0
NUJS may suffer such a future soon https://www.telegraphindia.com/states/west-bengal/vacant-seat-worry-for-colleges-in-calcutta/cid/1692989?ref=more-from-west-bengal_west-bengal-page

Why don't the politicos get it? Handouts and tokenism may secure electoral futures for a while but they always come back to bite. And the so-called poor, needy etc that they profess to serve, are not d***f***s. They have agency and aspirations too. They too understand deterioration in quality.

Then again we are expecting too much from our politicians https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/dr-same-same-chatterjee/cid/1489382

I have no illusion that politicians from other parties are any better. To my peers who think folks from opposition parties will help us....please get a written statement from them that they do not support "quota" or will roll it back immediately should they win (and not bring in their own version of quota)
Guest 24 Jun 2019, 05:53
+1 -0
If NLSIU alumni and students could unite and successfully oppose domicile quota, why not here? They got appointments with Gogoi and other SC judges, politicians etc. Nothing happened here.
Guest 24 Jun 2019, 09:36
+1 -3
CLAT second list is out. It seems all NUJS rankers are leaving, excepting quota students.
Guest 24 Jun 2019, 10:36
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Nonsense. Completely false news, Kian. There's been no list of all the candidates uploaded on the website for that data to be analysed. It is only after the third list when universities take admission and you know who are the ones taking admission where and their respective CLAT ranks that one can actually do this analysis.
kuch bhi 24 Jun 2019, 12:34
+2 -0
By that logic, it seems 14 are leaving Nalsar, because of domicile reservations. But what about 32 leaving jodhpur, I don't think that there is any reservation in NLUJ and also 25 leaving bhopal, 40 GNLU.
Guest 2 24 Jun 2019, 14:29
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These are vacant seats, which means two possibilities. First they have been upgraded, therefore vacant or some of them have decided to join nlud. As per my calculation only 2 from nls, 6 from nalsar, 5 from nujs, 8 from nluj will join delhi. Total 21. In the first list of nlud General candidates out of 50, total 17 will join in probably first two and rarely nujs or nluj, as 17 seats are vacant there in first 50. A better analysis can be done only after 3 list.
Guest 24 Jun 2019, 15:30
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Upgradation won't show vacant seats. Vacant means they have not deposited the 50k and have withdrawn from the CLAT process. That can be because they have either opted not to study law at all, or have chosen other universities (like NLUD more likely, JGLS possibly but less likely etc.)
Guest 2 24 Jun 2019, 16:16
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No bro, see rank 56 and 57 (in first list they were alloted nalsar) got seats at nls after two from nls list decided to join nlud. Now nalsar is showing 56 and 57 as vacant.
Guest 24 Jun 2019, 16:58
+1 -0
They should have provided a manual for interpreting this stuff. Needless complications.
Guest 24 Jun 2019, 17:02
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But that would mean 56 and 57 had got the highest CLAT rank among those who got NALSAR in the first list, right? Because almost everybody would have kept NLSIU as first preference, so if anyone got upgraded, it should be the first rank holder who got NALSAR in the first list. But there are people in the NALSAR list who have ranks higher than 56 and 57! This isn't making any sense. There's always the chance that those idiots messed things up once again. Won't be the first time.
Guest 2 25 Jun 2019, 02:16
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In 2017, 2 nls, 5 nalsar selected joined nlud, in 2018, 5 nls, 11 nalsar joined nlud (any nlud 2023 batch kindly confirm, if possible) in 2019 so far, 2 nls, 5 from nalsar. The question remains to assess the decision students make, without being judgemental. After 3 list by comparing the list of nalsar and nlud, it will easy to say factually.
Jax 24 Jun 2019, 18:01
+1 -0
Kian, this is some pretty major info this reader has dug out. He/she has pinpointed how many have given up other NLUs for NLUD. Can you extrapolate this and find out the true NLU preference, especially whether NLUD has overtaken NALSAR among student preferences, post the NIRF rankings? Also, can you find out how many have left lower NLUs for Symbi and Jindal, possibly even GGSIP, GLC and Amity?
Guest 24 Jun 2019, 18:04
+1 -0
The NLU student preferences are NLSIU>NLUD>NALSAR>NUJS... same as NIRF .
Guest 25 Jun 2019, 07:44
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Hi, can you please help me about this - which school should I choose between NUJS (possible updrage to NALSAR), NLUD, and JGLS? I was quite set on NLUD. But then I spoke to someone who studies there who said this:
- The current VC who set up the school will retire in the next few months and if the next VC is not good, the place will decline rapidly.
- Contrary to popular belief, the faculty of the place isn't that great. There are 5-6 very good people and the rest are mediocre to bad.
- There is a lot of very ugly faculty politics. Many of the good faculty won't stay beyond the current VC's term because of this (some have already left).
- The student environment is very 'toxic' (this was repeated multiple times but I don't know what that means).
- Everything is very ad hoc and depends only on the goodwill of 'admin'. No rules and no student government is in place.

There were some more things but these were the big ones that I remember. I want to know, is this the opinion of one person or is this actually true? Should I decide in favour of NUJS/NALSAR or JGLS instead? I am from NCR, if that helps.

Thank you in advance.
Alumni power 25 Jun 2019, 10:32
+1 -2
I think the present or immediate state of affairs in the quoted colleges are overrated as a factor. Expect teaching to be mediocre, if not bad in most colleges. If you have the ability to be in top 25% of the batch and do your internships properly , you will definitely get a shot at the big law. Also , do consider the position the alumni have reached in the legal profession when you evaluate the colleges. Most will not admit it, but they all have a soft corner for students from their alma mater. Check how’s many Partners , GCs are there from each of the colleges you are considering.
Guest 25 Jun 2019, 11:07
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You MUST choose NLUD, especially being from NCR. Ignore the fake news fed to you by some idiot. NLUD is #2 in NIRF, has been a star performer in placements (foreign law firms, UPSC etc), has very good faculty (including alumni of various NLUs), has collaborations with many foreign universities, is very well funded, and is situated in the legal capital. NUJS is on the decline under Mamata (and we cannot be sure yet if the BJP will come to power in the state) while NALSAR could crash out of the top 5 NLUs if the 85% Telangana quota proposal is implemented by the TRS govt (and the BJP is unlikely to win the state). Moreover, NALSAR's image has taken a big hit after the Sadhguru incident, with everyone calling it NAXALS university.

As for JGLS, don't even think about it. Do not be misled by the QS ranking. The batch size of JGLS is over 450. Only a small number get good jobs. They do have good faculty and some star NLU alumni, but often these teachers only teach small elective classes to the best students. Also, there a lot fo the good faculty teach human rights/public law courses, rather than corporate/business law subjects
Guest 25 Jun 2019, 13:13
+0 -3
Even for a troll, your consistency is appalling. Like your sense of logic. Just some of the gems you came up with:
1. One should consider NIRF ranking to be sacrosanct, but QS ranking is of course misleading.
2. Of all the NLUs named here, NLUD actually has the least number of NLU LLB alumni teaching there at present (2), but why bother about facts?
3. Cracking the UPSC exam should be considered as placement, because sure as hell the university reputation or admin or alumni base have roles to play in that success. NLUD's placement has never been any better than NALSAR or NUJS.
4. NUJS and NALSAR are going to go down for trumped up possibilities that you deem to be certain in your parallel universe, whereas the actual fact is that NLUD is going to lose its founding VC and unarguably the driving force behind its success is not going to affect it at all. Only you and dumb Bhakts like you would term NALSAR as a Naxal University, whatever it means. Have you ever seen or heard a Naxalite actually in real life?
5. Given your comment about JGLS faculty, care to name the star teaching faculty of NLUD who are the corporate law studs there? Because there isn't any.
What's tragically funny is that you don't even realise that when people like you start speaking in favour of even a good place as you seem to be doing now, even then your evident lack of reason or sense makes it look bad actually.
Guest 25 Jun 2019, 14:55
+3 -1
Choose as follows: NLUD>NALSAR>NUJS>JGLS (if Nalsar gets 85% quota then NUJS>NALSAR>JGLS)
Guest 25 Jun 2019, 15:59
+0 -0
Yeah, take NLUD and see the likes of Jaswal as the next VC taking it to heights similar to RGNUL.
Guest 25 Jun 2019, 15:58
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@59: Whatever choice you make, it's always a generally good idea and wise policy not to rely on anonymous advice for the purpose of the same. In other words, wrong forum for that, kid. Never listen to anyone's advice and gyan who is unwilling to reveal his identity to you. That includes me too. So you may choose to ignore this piece of advice too. But if you do, you'd actually be following it. See what I did there?
Guest 25 Jun 2019, 18:23
+1 -1
It is extremely embarrassing that the NUJS website has nearly zero information about the college, faculty and events. Even the student website sja.nujs.edu has no info on faculty.
Guest 25 Jun 2019, 19:23
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There are faculty links available on the main website. All the permanent faculty at least are listed there, though the 6 contractual faculty are not. The info might not be updated, but all the relevant points are there. Look for it and you will find it. It's quite embarassing that you failed to do so before posting your comment down here. Thank God for anonymity, right?
Guest 26 Jun 2019, 01:11
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Rubbish! The website has no info post 2016. I challenge you to paste the links of faculty members (old and recent) with updated bios.
Guest 26 Jun 2019, 05:25
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@60.1.1: Before issuing challenges, what about trying to read for a change? 60 said that there's NO info on the website about faculty, which 60.1 has rightly corrected. Now you are saying there's no info post 2016, which is a different proposition altogether. 60.1 has actually said the available info isn't updated. Try to behave like a lawyer for a change, why don't you? Overall, I agree with you about the shoddy job that the admin does with the website.
Momta DIdi 26 Jun 2019, 14:54
+1 -0
Please Calm Down TMC Workers.
Faculty Profile of NUJS is here: http://bit.ly/FacultyProfile_NUJS
Guest 27 Jun 2019, 02:26
+0 -0
Is this the way to publicise it? In an obscure google doc the public does not know about? What about the website?
Guest 27 Jun 2019, 05:44
+0 -0
You apply for a tender to maintain it, since you are so eager.
Danger Lurks 25 Jun 2019, 22:29
+2 -0
JU, CU and Presidency always had political value for the party in power. NUJS never really blips on their radar. But it has always attracted unwanted attention from apparatchiks who abuse party connections for their personal profits (of course some "cut" is sent to the party fund, some IOUs settled etc). The recent NUJS Amendment Act is designed to facilitate these things. We cannot stop the state from imposing the quota on us but we can certainly complicate the corrupt equations of the state agents in the EC and their Sensational friends inside the university.

Be under no illusion that the government cares about the deterioration in quality, national status, access to funding etc. Sugato Bose and Amartya Sen, both feted by CM, could only dress Presidency pretty. It is another matter that they reserve their fire for a different M.

Be that as it may this should be instructive for Noojies who still think that the government will be persuaded by logic or threat of legal action https://www.telegraphindia.com/states/west-bengal/come-august-presidency-university-wont-have-any-chair-professor/cid/1693114?ref=more-from-west-bengal_west-bengal-page

All political parties understand only one equation - whether a move will be electorally successful or not. Right now the powers that be perceive the Amendment Act as bringing in votes as also "cut money" for LLB seats, faculty recruitment, campus expansion and construction.

And that's why they need Sensational & Co to continue as long as possible.
Guest 27 Jun 2019, 02:25
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Agreed, but surely the students must at least try to fight the TMC through litigation, protests and airing grievances in the media, especially at a time when Mamata is on the backfoot? She made a humiliating climbdown after the doctors protest. Why aren't NUJS students at least trying? Why no petition before the courts? If you need to score 15 in the last over, it is a tough ask, but shouldn't the batsmen at least try to hit instead of playing defensive shots?
Guest 27 Jun 2019, 05:14
+1 -0
The state govt doesn't care where we go because it knows it will win. It is ready for us and our usual repertoire of action. NRS students on their own couldn't have stared down the CM. Will the other NLUs support us? And remember it was the BJP in Karnataka that pushed the govt on NLSIU quota and relaxed the domicile bar so that greater numbers become eligible. You are either Jon Snow or want to precipitate a crisis on campus. Also were we doing great before the domicile quota issue came up? Why shouldn't we protest, litigate, convene media photo ops etc for things such as poor faculty, over payments to bloated administrative staffs, burial of Justice PN Sinha Inquiry Report and non-recovery of crores of monies, swift conclusion and action on the various EC instituted inquiries and the list can go on.

The WBNUJS Amendment Act isn't all about quota. The really troubling bits are the fee-setting power and the option to exit CLAT. But more broadly, it is the signal that if the state wants it will intervene at will...just because it can. Also you must know that in JU, opposition to domicile quota was led from the front by the VC but he was undone by politicized faculty. Also did the you see any of the med school folks in WB or elsewhere say anything on the proposed imposition of 20% quota? Did JU students do their famous protests when 90% domicile quota was imposed on the engineering seats? They will potentially lose IoE status and Rs 1000 crores in funding, if not other grants but did you even hear "Hok Kolorob"? So please pipe down and stop ranting (assuming you are a student). If you are one of those JL/IL fellows, stop instigating for your private profits.

https://www.telegraphindia.com/states/west-bengal/jadavpur-university-keeps-533-home-seats/cid/1693193

I don't see any news of JU students conducting their hallmark protests now
Holy Cow 27 Jun 2019, 08:36
+1 -0
JU seems to have moved swiftly https://www.telegraphindia.com/states/west-bengal/jadavpur-university-seeks-reply-from-harass-accused/cid/1693252?ref=west-bengal_west-bengal-page

At NUJS we have an employee who was suspended more than half a decade ago and since then has been drawing generous subsistence allowance thanks to PIB ([...]) and later Taluk, Sensational & Co.

Guess who was footing this subsistence allowance all along? We, the students, while tripling, avoiding snake bites, suffering Faulty and administrative flab etc. Taking inspiration from Upamanyu Chatterjee, I am thinking of writing "The milking of udders at NUJS"
Guest 27 Jun 2019, 11:17
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The alleged victim has also kept the case dragging before court, not proceeding with it, milking it for all that's worth and creating a power-gossip room in the process. As for the accused, till he's actually convicted (possibly rightfully), he can't be sacked. Till then, he does continue to have a set of rights. The admin has never sought an end to the matter, which is why no AR Admin has been permanently appointed since then either.
PN Sinha 27 Jun 2019, 08:55
+1 -0
Sounds familiar? https://www.telegraphindia.com/states/west-bengal/ac-woes-at-varsity/cid/1693249?ref=west-bengal_west-bengal-page

Then again Taluk, Sensational & Co have refused to take action because it would embarrass the AG and core members of the JL and IL. And we all thought that JL and IL are enemies.

Is Taluk, Sensational & Co afraid that the "[...]" trail will singe a lot of their friends in the EC and elsewhere, cutting across political and professional divides?
Holy Cow 28 Jun 2019, 09:19
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Responding to Guest @63.1

I agree that the university should have swiftly and fairly taken a decision on the SH matter and not drag it out all these years. But here is what I know (including articles published here):

1. The SH victim had made repeated verbal complaints before PIB. But for one full year he tried to bat things down. The offender was verbally cautioned several times but he could care less because....

2. Receiving no respite, the SH victim sent a written complaint to the university. The offender was sent on leave. Thereafter he started playing truant while continuing to threaten the victim directly and indirectly. The victim then filed an FIR. The university sensing that matters are turning serious and complicated, suspended the offender and PIB put him on subsistence allowance.

3. The university sent the complaint to the ICC, which was then led by RG. PIB would make frequent changes but RG and AM (as expected) remained constant. Till RG got publicly reported as being sympathetic to offender and attempting back channel rapprochement on behalf of the offender. RG also made some strenuous interpretations of the reported SH instances and a public exposure of those caused RG to resign. AM was asked to stay on and a new ICC Chair was appointed, [...]. PIB also packed in some more of his cronies.

4. While all this was going on, offender kept playing truant. At some point his anticipatory bail plea was rejected by the Calcutta High Court; the Bidhannagar Police arrested him in late Dec 2013; and after some initial SC rejections, he finally got out on bail.

5. [...] and crew submitted their report in early 2014 which confirmed SH. The majority felt that specific disciplinary action was best decided by the university, which neither had a service rule nor SH policy in place. The minority strongly recommended immediate termination.

6. The EC preferred that PIB took a call on this matter. Previously it had outsourced the issue of subsistence allowance and hikes to PIB. And so PIB formed the holy trinity committee - himself (Top class God), Supreme God (lurks in library) and CPC/CrPC God. The trinity dutifully adopted the arguments made by the offender to increase subsistence allowance from 50% to 100% in quick jumps and without due non-engagement certification.

7. PIB and Co let the offender enjoy without even checking whether he was working elsewhere. Only recently did the EC force [...] to demand those non-engagement certifications. And we know how those can be procured and bought.

8. But to go back to what PIB recommended to the EC concerning disciplinary action was this - the offender was to be kept on suspension, on subsistence allowance (with very timely and generous hikes) till the conclusion of the criminal case that was initiated by the victim. Sounds familiar? This trick was also used in the Surajit Mukhopadhyay matter as well till the the Calcutta HC instituted Justice (Retd) PN Sinha Inquiry Report ensured his termination.

9. Very interestingly, the EC that gave PIB a free hand on this SH matter had Lord Taluk and at no point did he bother to ask PIB further details on the actual nature of the case; whether the university was even a party to it; whether there was any stay order or direction from the court not to terminate the offender's employment etc?

10. The prosecution was launched by the victim. The university is not a party to the case. The offender has not secured any stay order etc against the university. But SH was clearly established by the ICC and it was accepted by the university and EC. And yet it was decided to keep the offender generously funded till the game of dates concludes in the courts?

11. Maybe @Guest 63.1 is correct. The university and EC should have questioned the victim on the progress of the case. And demanded answers in writing with supporting paperwork. I don't know if Lord Taluk has done that now. He should have, especially if this sexual and financial profligacy vitally hinges on the "case" that the victim launched.

12. I am not interested in a moral crusade or salacious gossip concerning out-of-court settlements etc. I don't want a glaring of fat cats bankrolled on student fees. The offender needs to be fired; the recommendations of the holy trinity reviewed (at least two Gods are still around); and those responsible for checking non-engagement certifications and ground-truthing will need be hauled up as well. And most certainly explore options to claw back monies from the offender or his pals in the university.

13. One thing that stands out is the role a certain gentleman who has taken undue interest in university affairs. Along with PIB, he has been most interested in keeping both the Registrar and AR Admin positions in limbo. He is furious with students for evicting PIB and SAK. In collaboration with Lord Taluk, he ensured Justice PN Sinha Inquiry report is sent to oblivion; faculty recruitment scams hushed up; inquiries never really take off; and crucial appointments are delayed and frustrated; and state interference is facilitated. But now he has developed a [...] feeling that his interests are better served by someone else.

14. By the way, this not so mysterious friend and his Ray of Light would very much want the SH matter to drag on. Air Water knows why.
Guest 24 Jul 2022, 05:32
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What is the status of this? Have the students given up plans of a legal challenge, or will they wait for the outcome of the NLSIU case at the Supreme Court? Also, it appears from the media reports that Partha Chatterjee (or those close to him) received mountains of bribes in exchange for teaching and admin staff posts in schools and colleges. The legal fraternity needs to ask whether teaching and admin staff appointments in law faculties of traditional universities may have been influenced in this way. But even more interesting in the case of NUJS. Does anyone know by what process exactly teaching and admin staff appointments at NUJS are done? Is there a case for the SJA to submit a petition to the CJI demanding transparency in teaching and admin staff appointments at NUJS?
Guest 24 Jul 2022, 10:37
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Everyone knows other than you it seems, insofar as recruitments are concerned. As for filing a legal challenge, if you have got locus, then do so yourself. If not, then what business is it of yours anyway?