Have most porn sites just been blocked in India? [UPDATE-4: Seems DOT ordered block]

Offline porn, Khajuraho
Offline porn, Khajuraho

Several pornography web sites are currently inaccessible in India on several internet service providers (ISPs).

According to a thread on discussion site and social network Reddit, several of the most popular porn sites are not accessible in India on internet connections provided by MTNL Mumbai, BSNL, Vodafone and ACT are either showing blank pages when connecting to pornography sites, or “Directory doesn’t exist”.

One user reported that “It says the site has been blocked by the ‘Competent Authority’”.

However, users on Airtel and Tikona, and one BSNL Delhi user reported that all sites could be accessed normally.

Update, 2 August: ISP confirms: Gov’t ordered block of 857 porn sites invoking section 69A, Shreya Singhal’s IT Act leftover

Legally India has confirmed that on one Delhi broadband connection provided by Spectranet, 11 out of the world’s 13 most popular porn sites (according to this post from 2014) were not accessible. Two websites were functioning normally.

Non-pornographic video sites such as youtube.com, vimeo.com or dailymotion.com were accessible normally.

However, on an Airtel mobile phone internet connection, all sites were working normally.

Update 4: One Reddit user’s browser displayed the message “Your requested URL has been blocked as per the directions received from Department of Telecommunications, Government of India” when attempting to access a porn site:

The Supreme Court declined to pass an interim order last month to block pornography websites in India, saying “how can you stop me from watching it within the four walls of my room” in a public interest litigation (PIL) filed by an advocate to ban pornography websites in the country.

Chief Justice of India (CJI) HL Dattu observed that banning the watching of pornography at home would be “a violation of article 21”, the right to personal liberty, reported The Hindu.

The case is ongoing.

Advocate Apar Gupta (@aparatbar) commented on Twitter that the only way to find out whether this was a government block, would be to file a Right to Information (RTI) request with the Department of Telecommunication (DOT).

My hunch: does not seem to be a judicial order arising from K. Vaswani. May be DOT directions under the Blocking Rules, 2009.

The block does not appear to be at a domain-name server (DNS) level or IP address level, as three of the top five sites still responded to so-called ping requests by Legally India, though two timed out.

That said, it is a possibility that technical issues are behind the partial block.

We have reached out to the DOT for comment or confirmation.

Update 2: Hacktivist and technology expert Oxblood Ruffin 3.0 @OxbloodRuffin tweeted:

@LegallyIndia I’m not sufficiently familiar with the case, but my gut says this isn’t a technical issue. More like inappropriate influence.

Update 3: In November 2014, the Narendra Modi government reportedly intending to “create a list of porn websites and ask Internet service providers (ISPs) to block them”, reported the Business Standard (via Reddit).

Update: Apar Gupta had written in a post on Facebook on 3 April:

The Kamlesh Vaswani petition which is asking for a web filter to censor any obscene content (obscenity is wider than pornography) is likely to come up for hearing on 14.04.2015. It is premised on a presumption that the consumption of pornography incites and causes sexual violence to women.

The Supreme Court by its Order on 12.07.2013 has stated that, “since this is not an adversarial litigation as such, it is hoped that all the parties, including the Union of India, will treat the matter with all seriousness and take positive steps to try and contain the menace”.

A perceptible lack of opposition this case, why it is dangerous, is explained well by a quote from Nadine Strossen’s (former president of the ACLU) in her book, Defending Pornography.

Its long but please bear with it. It articulates some important points and learnings which I thought will be useful to share.

“I share the fears, frustration, and fury about the ongoing problems of violence and discrimination against women, which no doubt have driven may to embrace the, “quick fix” that censoring pornography is claimed to offer. Who wouldn’t welcome an end to the threat of violence that so many women feel every time they venture out alone in the dark? But censoring pornography would not reduce misogynistic violence or discrimination; worse yet, as this book shows, it would likely aggravate those grave problems. In the words of feminist attorney Cathy Crosson, while the procensorship strategy may be superficially appealing, at bottom it reflects, “the defeated, defeatist politics of those who have given up on really altering the basic institutions of women’s oppression and instead have decided to slay the messenger.”

The pornography feminists have forged frighteningly effective alliances with traditional political and religious conservatives who staunchly oppose women’s rights, but who also seek to supress pornography. As noted by feminist anthropologist Carole Vance, “Every right-winger agrees that porn leads to women’s inequality — an inequality that doesn’t bother him in any other way.”

Under their join antipornography banner, the allies in this feminist-fundamentalist axis have mounted increasing - and increasingly successful — campaigns against a wide range of sexually oriented expression, including not only art and literature, but also materials concerning such pressing public issues as AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases, abortion, contraception, sexism, and sexual orientation.

So influential have the MacDworkinities become that all too many citizens and officials believe that the suppression of sexually oriented materials is a high priority for all feminists, or even all women. But nothing could be further from the truth.

An increasingly vocal cadre of feminist women who are dedicated to securing equal rights for women and to combating women’s continuing second-class citizenship in our society strongly opposes any effort to censor sexual expression. We are as committed as any other feminists to eradicating violence and discrimination against women; indeed, many of us work directly for these goals every day of our lives. But we believe that suppressing sexual words and images will not advance these crucial causes. To the contrary we are convinced that censoring sexual expression actually would do more harm than good to women’s right and safety. We adamantly oppose any effort to restrict sexual speech not only because it would violate our cherished First Amendment freedoms — our freedoms to read, think, speak, sing, write, paint, dance, dream, photograph, film and fantasise as we wish ---- but it would undermine our equality, our status, our dignity and our autonomy”.

Photo by Aotearoa

Comments

hexabin 1 Aug 2015, 13:34
+18 -0
Stupid government wants to interfere with gift of Lord Cupid. There are so many ways to bypass these restrictions (Tor, Ultrasurf, Freegate, Free VPN etc etc). Many a times site work if you just change your DNS server to Open/Google DNS, or use the SSL version of the website. Whats the point of these restrictions anyway, as only the most ignorant get affected by these.
badmanforever 1 Aug 2015, 17:56
+2 -0
True alot of unblockers are out there.
harsha 1 Aug 2015, 20:05
+3 -2
the impact of this going tocause in nxt coming months with name of rapes.
sashi 1 Aug 2015, 13:50
+8 -1
can be confirmed
most top 10 porn sites blocked
more to follows , losing them one by one
will to live reducing
leave country
SS 1 Aug 2015, 13:55
+2 -8
And why exactly is this news in LI?
kianganz 1 Aug 2015, 14:09
+34 -0
Freedom of speech / ongoing SC case / internet freedom / etc?
Fooseball 1 Aug 2015, 14:04
+5 -1
Yes not working on vodafone since morning. Wtf is going on.
Anti-Antiporn 1 Aug 2015, 15:55
+12 -5
What the hell is wrong with the damn old porn banning?!!! This is straight-up violation of the Fundamental Rights of a god-damn human being!!!!! HOW DARE THIS PIECE OF SHIT GOVERNMENT TRY TO DICTATE WHAT THE HELL IT'S CITIZENS ARE SUPPOSED TO Do within the four walls of their god-damn house!!? IS THIS A F'CKING dictatorship run by bigoted old-aged dumb asses under the facade of Democracy and protection of stupid morals!??! Next thing we know, the government will legalize stoning of women and shit.. Retards! Screw the law which goes against Human Rights!
Guest 1 Aug 2015, 16:26
+1 -1
Pls name the sites that are blocked
With-held 2 Aug 2015, 17:10
+2 -0
From my experience xvideos, pornhub, xhamster are all banned.
Guest 1 Aug 2015, 16:35
+2 -1
it may be problem from isp here in south India bangalore everything is working fine please verify in your localities
alliswell 2 Aug 2015, 20:22
+1 -0
yep. good old bangalore still has access to these sites :D yaay
sachin 1 Aug 2015, 16:38
+1 -0
may be a problem from isp, here in Bangalore everything is working fine sites are opening please erify in your localities before coming to any conclusion
sashi 1 Aug 2015, 16:48
+9 -2
most porn sites banned
leaving country
Richa 1 Aug 2015, 16:53
+7 -51
Good move. See how all the perverts are have come out suddenly and started babbling.
zeus 1 Aug 2015, 23:28
+8 -1
dear we guys see porn and satisfy ourselves...alone...thus we repel rape...so even you should condemn this move...just think about it...(perverts online are far far better than perverts on-road)

what do you say?!
anonymouse 2 Aug 2015, 07:40
+5 -0
dumbest thing I've read in a while. bravo.
mandeepchanna 2 Aug 2015, 07:52
+2 -22
Great decision to block porn site in India. hope people's save their important time to productive works. make in India.
Bangalore 1 Aug 2015, 17:34
+3 -0
Ok porn is banned, huge black market danda is wide open

One hand curb black money initiative and ban porn will open all doors to cd and use markets good business

How about Bojpuri/Telugu/Kannada/Hindi hot and sexy songs on YouTube ? These are more erotic than pornhub videos

Babus were never smart at Delhi and ever will be !!!
sunny Leone lookalike 3 Aug 2015, 04:26
+2 -0
Hey! Why leave Tamil and Malayalam?
problems 1 Aug 2015, 17:47
+5 -1
Not that I care about online pornography, but really? of all the problems in this country.. this is what you crack down on.
Anonymous 1 Aug 2015, 18:34
+10 -1
Supreme court has in its recent judgement declined to ban porn for private viewing.
I had been a stuanch supporter of BJP but this is utter nonsense...
anyways govt cant ban porn... u can use proxy...
if they ban proxy you can use httptunnel client...
this they cannot block... none of the porn servers are in India. This is mere a step showing cowardness of the modi govt, when you cant regularise (as physically servers are out of India's territory and jurisdiction) then ban them.

private viewing in a closed room has noting to do with govt.
now the govt should ban people from having sex or regularize the number of times they have it...
hemanth 1 Aug 2015, 19:21
+2 -0
technology is improved if gov bann the site people use another country proxy to serve the internet of porn sites
nilspin 1 Aug 2015, 19:53
+0 -0
http://telecomtalk.info/has-dot-issued-orders-to-isps-to-block-porn-sites-in-india/140215/
They seem to have plagiarized your article.
Hackmaster 1 Aug 2015, 20:00
+1 -0
Use Zenmate plugin for Firefox. Otherwise use Tor browser and enjoy!!
chirag 1 Aug 2015, 20:42
+3 -1
India is the only country where there are reservations in studies and porn banned.. wow..RIP INDIA.. _/\_
Himanshhu 1 Aug 2015, 20:54
+3 -7
Dear Sir,
Its a good step for children, but what about censoring bollywood vulgarity?
With-held 3 Aug 2015, 20:00
+0 -0
[quote name="Himanshhu"]Dear Sir,
Its a good step for children, but what about censoring bollywood vulgarity?[/quote]
Dear Sir,
The safety of the children depends on the parents. Blocking and censoring everything abstains even adults from enjoying them. So it's a ridiculously stupid move made by daft medieval puritans.
Mota Bhai 1 Aug 2015, 22:06
+5 -1
Completely support this move. This will force the youth to adapt to the modern proxy technology and explore more viable and secure means of surfing the world wide web. In the end the govt participated in a gimmick. Really? Banning porn sites? LUL! A 12 year old kid can bypass the god damn ban!!
therawkr 1 Aug 2015, 22:12
+0 -0
Be it vulgar or not ( depending on perspectives), watching porn cannot be banned in India according to the Article 21 of our constitution, i.e. banning porn is violating the Right to personal liberty (Article 21: Protection Of Life And Personal Liberty). And according to our legal system, production and physical distribution of porn is illegal while watching it is totally legal. And what does this move by the government mean? They banned beef, they banned eggs, they are gonna ban porn, they tried to hijack internet neutrality, they are gonna ban everything that's not in our 'sanskar'. Lawwl.

Hello 'modern' dark age, we're (India) coming. ?#?UnbanPorn?
porn lover 2 Aug 2015, 01:12
+2 -0
Porn sites are a channel for release of pent up frustration or sexual angst. There is no evidence that countries that freely allow porn have higher rate of violent rape than India.
nomo 2 Aug 2015, 01:25
+1 -0
As video streaming is the biggest hogger of bandwidth, this looks like just an economical decision to ensure better utilisation of existing infrastructure. If only for a short period since the ingenious Indian will have a new jugaad soon.
Bud Green 2 Aug 2015, 02:50
+3 -0
I remember in the late 90's the Information and Broadcasting Ministry of the Vajpayee Govt. had unofficially ensured that WWF went off the air because they felt it was too violent and also a little vulgar(which it probably was, in the "attitude era", wrestling fans may recall that era). Anyway it left me really depressed as a kid because I was a huge fan and the internet had not evolved enough to enable me to get my wrestling fix. Wrestling resurfaces a few years later on another channel but I had lost interest by then. But times are different today. Big Brother cannot possibly regulate what we can and cannot watch even if they try.

PS: I'm watching a Porno right now!!!!
saran 2 Aug 2015, 02:52
+0 -3
Why this article has Hindu God's picture at the top? thats not a great insult ?
kianganz 2 Aug 2015, 07:59
+1 -0
Uh, unless you're trolling, you really need to study better what the outside of some Hindu temples look like: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khajuraho_Group_of_Monuments

Interestingly, it was the Brits who were quite upset by the erotic art outside Khajuraho when they first stumbled upon it...
Wular lake 3 Aug 2015, 06:02
+5 -2
So you are trying to compare art outside temples, with what is found on these websites..childporn, fetishes, orchestrated rape, revenge porn videos? Before posting links to Wikipedia pages on Khajuraho, try reading up on the reasons for these sculptures outside temples. Try reading up on the Hindu schools of philosophy. The reasons surely differed from those for watching porn on the Internet. ( an appropriate comparison for these sculptures could be nude art, paintings etc. but surely not porn)


When we talk about 19 1 (a) and 19 (2) restrictions on public order, morality...if websites desiminating content recorded using spy cams, breaching individual privacy can't be regulated then please tell me what can. while most of the readers here may be mature adults who can decide on what they want to do with their time and lives, the fact remains that the state has a responsibility namely for minors and others who can't differentiate between fiction shown on these websites and reality. Case in point being a large number of videos show actors and actresses enacting real life situations like travelling by bus, train etc. where men seem to force themselves upon the actress without her consent. While a mature reader from this website may be able to differentiate between fiction and reality sadly with the level of education in our country an equally large if not more number would not be able to.

While we may want an extremely liberal state, which allows one to do anything they want, the fact is that it's not always about binary choices. Middle points have to be taken in most situations. So while somebody is free to see porn within the four walls of his/ her room he/ she is not free to share it freely on the internet where he doesn't know who is ultimately going to be viewing the said content.

Wish if You tried to present all sides of the issue, before leading others to start their rant on fascist state, saffron control etc.
kianganz 3 Aug 2015, 06:07
+0 -0
Those are some reasonable arguments for banning porn.

So why did the government not make these arguments and have a pseudo-democratic debate or at least some transparency before secretly banning it?
Wular lake 4 Aug 2015, 08:24
+1 -0
You haven't answered on the Khajuraho temple depiction and correlation with offline pornography. To put it simplistically for those who don't have much of insight on Hindu philiosophy, these sculptures were right along the outer walls of the sanctum- garb Griha, and in a way anyone entering the pious sanctum figuratively left behind all the various emotions of lust, carnal cravings etc. before entering it. It would be extremely wrong on your part to just use these images out of their context and say : see porn was always there as part of Hindu culture. That's quite obnoxious.

And if the British were scandalised on seeing it, it's because they did not have such a well defined body of philosophy as Hindu philiosophy to appreciate such fine nuances. They looked at it from the same lense from which you are after 200 years looking at these sculptures- as PORN

Please make a correct depiction, and alter the image and caption. To err is human!
kianganz 4 Aug 2015, 08:52
+0 -0
Accept your arguments, no offence was intended though I believe that many Hindus don't necessarily look at the carvings that way.

The point is: 100 years ago the Brits thought the temples were porn and obscene, and even Mahatma Gandhi was reportedly not fond of Khajuraho and considered having the erotic statuettes removed according to some accounts.

Morality changes and depends on the eye of the observer, and a classical legal obscenity test of "I know it when I see it" is literally subjective.

Ask this: Would a pencil sketch depiction of some of the scenes of Khajuraho be pornography? How about an oil painting? Would a Japanese manga cartoon? How about a still photo with actors? How about a video without penetration? How about a video with penetration?

The line between porn and art can be blurry and involves complex questions of morality, and if we're allowing the government to choose, then every few years we might end up with a different list of what's blocked and what's not. Who knows, Khajuraho could be next...
ninad 3 Aug 2015, 08:30
+2 -0
Child porn? You do realize that child porn is illegal and the websites blocked have a ZERO TOLERANCE policy when it comes to child pornography right?
Scooter- 3 Aug 2015, 11:41
+0 -0
Well Said sir.
With-held 3 Aug 2015, 20:02
+0 -0
[quote name="Wular lake"]So you are trying to compare art outside temples, with what is found on these websites..childporn, fetishes, orchestrated rape, revenge porn videos? Before posting links to Wikipedia pages on Khajuraho, try reading up on the reasons for these sculptures outside temples. Try reading up on the Hindu schools of philosophy. The reasons surely differed from those for watching porn on the Internet. ( an appropriate comparison for these sculptures could be nude art, paintings etc. but surely not porn)


When we talk about 19 1 (a) and 19 (2) restrictions on public order, morality...if websites desiminating content recorded using spy cams, breaching individual privacy can't be regulated then please tell me what can. while most of the readers here may be mature adults who can decide on what they want to do with their time and lives, the fact remains that the state has a responsibility namely for minors and others who can't differentiate between fiction shown on these websites and reality. Case in point being a large number of videos show actors and actresses enacting real life situations like travelling by bus, train etc. where men seem to force themselves upon the actress without her consent. While a mature reader from this website may be able to differentiate between fiction and reality sadly with the level of education in our country an equally large if not more number would not be able to.

While we may want an extremely liberal state, which allows one to do anything they want, the fact is that it's not always about binary choices. Middle points have to be taken in most situations. So while somebody is free to see porn within the four walls of his/ her room he/ she is not free to share it freely on the internet where he doesn't know who is ultimately going to be viewing the said content.

Wish if You tried to present all sides of the issue, before leading others to start their rant on fascist state, saffron control etc.[/quote]
You have no idea how porn sites work then.

Child porn is illegal and are not found in ANY of the popular porn sites.

As for situations, females are participating in it as well. So only an idiot would make out a sexism accusation out of it.
Wular lake 4 Aug 2015, 08:04
+0 -0
While technically these may not be children performing the sexual act, I.e.older than 18, but the fact remains that the viewer is not bothered by the age certificate which these actors hold. The choice of the actresses and actors is done in such a way to lead one to believe that they are minors or children. Had that not been the case, and since you seem to be a connoisseur of porn, could you please enlighten and tell why don't you have mature actors enacting school girl/boy scenes. They are meant to titilate the mind, by recreating the same emotions of power, control, dominance that would have been there had these actors actually been minors.

Also please don't bring in the sexism arguement, there is a very popular ted video on the pernicious effect of pornography on the female actresses look it up. Just like in prostitution, most of these women actresses are there due to the compulsions of circumstances. So had there not been a market from our ends for such content,probably their fate might have been different.
pramod 2 Aug 2015, 03:00
+3 -0
Whatever happened .. but this is natural feeling
And if government ban the porn then someone will can not control of his or her feeling and will do something wrong .. sex is natural its not wrong wether to do watch or to see .. and its personal .. current rules are enough but its immaturity of some people who try to ban the porn ..
M0di 2 Aug 2015, 03:25
+3 -0
So what, those bjp idiots can want watching cows
sravan 2 Aug 2015, 04:07
+0 -0
I think they are unblocking them now.. As for me both porn sites & torrent sites were baned yesterday,..

But now it seems Torrent sites are opening but porn not yet.
Guest 2 Aug 2015, 04:26
+0 -1
Most torrent sites have been blocked as well
Guest 2 Aug 2015, 06:09
+2 -0
BJP anarchy ?
albert-pinto 2 Aug 2015, 07:39
+1 -0
Please understand the underlying design of this government. This is done to dismantle MTNL/BSNL broadband. They have secretly banned this on Public ISPs but not on private ones. Hence, the vast consumer base of BSNL will move to Airtel, Reliance, Vodafone and others. The customer base will soon dwindle for MTNL/BSNL and they would be declared as huge money sucking sick PSUs. All of you who just swear by private enterprise would get what you have wanted. For education you would always opt for IIT over AMITY, but for eveyrthing else we want private. This is what you wanted and so you are getting the same in the name of so called SWachh Internet. Enjoy... :)
kianganz 2 Aug 2015, 08:00
+1 -0
That would be an interesting argument, but there are reports of Vodafone being blocked too...
Brilliant 2 Aug 2015, 10:33
+1 -1
Gay port hasn't been banned. Discrimination! Why is the BJP Government not worried about gay port?
Owl Man 2 Aug 2015, 10:52
+0 -1
@Kian, Tikona has blocked porno websites as well. Atleast the ones which I (use to) frequent.
A 2 Aug 2015, 15:05
+1 -0
If the SC says porn can't be banned , why is the govt banning it?
With-held 2 Aug 2015, 15:36
+1 -0
For a country which preaches of freedom rights and democracy India surely is idiotically conservative. First idiotic censorship all over TV shows and movies and now PORN SITES BEING BLOCKED! I WANNA PUNCH SOMEONE!
hands are useful..!! 3 Aug 2015, 12:59
+0 -0
[quote name="With-held"]For a country which preaches of freedom rights and democracy India surely is idiotically conservative. First idiotic censorship all over TV shows and movies and now PORN SITES BEING BLOCKED! I WANNA PUNCH SOMEONE![/quote]
punch your gun and thereafter you will be least worried about the Ban..!!
With-held 3 Aug 2015, 19:58
+0 -0
[quote name="hands are useful..!!"][quote name="With-held"]For a country which preaches of freedom rights and democracy India surely is idiotically conservative. First idiotic censorship all over TV shows and movies and now PORN SITES BEING BLOCKED! I WANNA PUNCH SOMEONE![/quote]
punch your gun and thereafter you will be least worried about the Ban..!![/quote]
That made no sense whatsoever.
Guest 3 Aug 2015, 04:57
+0 -0
This is Bullshit...!!! its seems like government needs education... !! inserted of working on key critical area they waste there time in restricting freedom of internet..!
Oh Gosh 3 Aug 2015, 07:15
+2 -0
Pathetic, now what, Many, if not all, Partners gonna do in office..??? provide some alternatives atleast
hands are useful..!! 3 Aug 2015, 07:59
+0 -0
You ^^ nailed it boss. :P
Ban Galore 3 Aug 2015, 13:28
+0 -0
First Maggi is banned. Now porn. This government seems to be out to get college students.
Internet Guru 3 Aug 2015, 19:25
+0 -0
Indian government recently blocked 857 porn websites in India but you will be shocked to know that you can still access all these porn websites without any hassle. No software download. Just follow this simple trick.


http://spacenab.com/dissid/1523/How-to-access-all-porn-websites-in-India.html
Guest 3 Aug 2015, 20:00
+0 -0
Ye sharmukhtyarshahee he air India ek lokshahi desh he
Randy Roe 4 Aug 2015, 19:43
+0 -1
ROFL....the perverts have gone berserk on social media. And so have our media. Looks like everyone is in it. As if pornography is a citizen's birthright. And we need a safe haven for the hardest core!

Get a life guys (and girls)...get a girl friend...boy friend...dog ...a cat (sorry, last two against the order of nature!!). What losers!

A stray observation of an SC judge - and hey everyone interprets this as pornography is legal! The same SC refused to de-criminalise sec 377 and sent it back to govt.

All this reeks of hypocrisy.