Advantage Nalsar: Near clean sweep of weekend moots with Jodhpur

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Early Mooting Premier League (MPL) leader NLSIU Bangalore has come under heavy pressure from both sides, as Nalsar Hyderabad took a massive lead and NLU Jodhpur closed in on second place.

Nalsar and NLU Jodhpur scored points in all three moots over the weekend, not counting the DM Harish moot, with Nalsar amassing 25 MPL points and NLU Jodhpur scoring 24.

Nalsar now leads with a huge 20 point margin before NLSIU Bangalore, which is now 17 points ahead of strong third-placed NLU Jodhpur.

Nalsar Hyderabad gained 11 MPL points in the Surana & Surana National Corporate Law Moot Court Competition organised by Army Institute of Law Mohali from 12 to 14 February. Nalsar beat NLU Jodhpur in the finals to take the best team prize and also won the best memorial award.

Adhirath Singh of NLU Jodhpur, meanwhile, won best orator giving NLU Jodhpur a total of 8 points from this tier 4 event.

Nalsar continued its dominance and picked up another 11 points at the tier 4 SP Sathe Memorial Moot Court Competition organized by ILS Pune from 12 to 14 February. Nalsar won the event defeating Campus Law Centre (CLC) Delhi University in the finals and Saurav Roy of Nalsar bagged best orator.

SP Sathe also allowed the team from NLU Jodhpur to continue its good performance, winning the best memorial and another 5 MPL points.

The NLU Jodhpur and Nalsar clean-up continued in the third tier 4 competition held this weekend with the Kerala Law Academy (KLA) Moot Court Competition. This time NLU Jodhpur won out over Nalsar in the final, while NLU Jodhpur’s Piyush Singh also bagged the best orator.

NLU Jodhpur walked away with 11 points from the KLA competition, inching in close to NLSIU Bangalore.

NLSIU Bangalore managed to secure its second place for now after bagging the best memorial prize and its only 5 points this weekend. This was the 21st edition of the KLA Moot Competition.

Nalsar’s performance over the weekend also included winning the best researcher at the DM Harish moot. The law school is now towering at the top of the MPL with 98 points and a 20 point lead over NLSIU Bangalore.

NLU Jodhpur’s strong weekend showing means that it has pulled away from fourth-placed NLIU Bhopal by 27 points and is within grasping distance of the second spot and NLSIU Bangalore.

In the tier 3 ICC International Mediation Competition in Paris, which was organised from 6 to 10 February, none of the Indian teams managed to score points. The UK’s Nottingham Trent University won the first prize with the University of South Wales in Australia taking the second place. This was the fifth edition of the competition organized by ICC’s amicable dispute resolution department. In all there were seven mock cases concerning international commercial disputes.

This coming weekend the NUJS Herbert Smith Moot court competition will take place.

We are also introducing a tie-breaker in the event of a tie for the top spots at the end of the competition. If the total points of teams are the same, we will take into account the total points scored by team wins only (excluding points such as runners-up, best speakers, memorials or researcher). In the event of a further tie, the next criteria will be runner-up points. Hopefully that should break any tie. If not, we will tally up the total number of wins, irrespective of each category and tier. Please let us know if you have any objections to this method. 2009-10 Legally India Mooting Premier League table

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1.Nalsar Hyderabad98IICLAM (best memorial); Henry Dunant Indian rounds (runners-up); Surana Trial Advocacy South (best team, best memorial); Nani Palkhiwala (best memorial), Bar Council of India (best team); KK Luthra (runners-up, best speaker); NLIU Tankha (runners-up, best memo); MM Singhvi (best memo); Jessups South (runner-up); DM Harish (best researcher); Surana Corporate (best team, best memorial); SP Sathe (best team, best orator); KLA Moot (runners up)
2.NLSIU Bangalore78Manfred Lachs (best team, best orator); Stetson South (best advocate), Bar Council of India (best orator); KK Luthra (best memorial); MM Singhvi (best researcher); Jessups South (best team, best orator); KLA Moot (best memorial)
3.NLU Jodhpur61Nalsar B.R.Sawney (runners-up); Stetson North (best team, best memorial); Jessups North (best team, best orator); Surana Corporate (runners up, best orator); SP Sathe (best memorial); KLA Moot (best team, best orator)
4.NLIU Bhopal34All India Corporate Law Moot (runners-up, best orator); Nalsar B.R.Sawney (best team, best orator, best memorial); Stetson South (best memorial); MM Singhvi (runners-up)
5.School of Excellence Chennai29Henry Dunant Indian rounds (best team, best orator), NLIU Tankha (best orator); Nani Palkhiwala (best team)
6.Government Law College (GLC) Mumbai26KK Luthra (best team); MM Singhvi (best team); DM Harish (best orator, best memorial)
7.Amity Law School IP University Delhi25IICLAM (best team & best orator); Stetson North (runner-up), Jessups North (best memorial)
8.ILS Law College Pune14Bar Council of India (runners-up); DM Harish (runners-up)
8.Law Centre I (LC-I) Delhi University14Henry Dunant Indian rounds (best memorial), Jessups North (runner-up)
10.Rajiv Gandhi National University of Law (RGNUL) Patiala13Henry Dunant national rounds (best researcher); NLIU Tankha (best team)
11.NUJS Kolkata11All India Corporate Law Moot (best team, best researcher)
11.Symbiosis, Pune11Nani Palkhiwala (runners up, best orator); GNLU International Moot Court (runners up)
11.University Institute of Laws PURC, Ludhiana11Surana trial advocacy north rounds (best team, best orator)
14.Kerala Law Academy Thiruvananthapuram10Stetson South (best team)
14.NLU Delhi10DM Harish (best team)
14.Nuals Kochi10Surana Trial Advocacy North (runners-up); Jessups South (best memorial)
17.UILS Punjab8Surana Trial advocacy South (runners up, best orator)
18.HNLU Raipur7Stetson North (best orator)
18.New Law College Bharati Vidyapeeth University Pune7Stetson South (runner-up)
20.CNLU Patna5GNLU International Moot (best memorial)
20.Government Law College Ernakulam5MM Singhvi (best orator)
20.Institute of Law, Nirma University, Ahmedabad5Surana Trial Advocacy North (best memorial)
20.ULC Bangalore5All India Corporate Law Moot (best memorial)
24.Campus Law Centre Delhi3SP Sathe (runners up)
24.GNLU Gandhinagar3IICLAM (runners-up)

Click here for an updated (February 2010) list of the scoring criteria we are using.

Comments

Anonymous 16 Feb 2010, 23:35
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woo hoo!! NALSAR way above da others....lets c wt happens in NUJS Herbert smith moot...whether NALSAR Defends the herbert smith trophy wich it won last year...or is NLS gonna bridge da gap!!
Anonymous 17 Feb 2010, 02:04
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May I ask why these moots are not included in these 'rankings'?

African Human Rights Moot Court CompetitionInternational Human Rights Law - Pretoria (Recognized by ILSA) - I'm pretty sure that if the SP Sathe, the Surana & Surana Corp Law, and the NLIU Tankha Moots are considered for this purpose - an IL moot with such international participation ought to be? Correct me if I'm mistaken, 10 teams from over 60 over the world are shortlisted for the Finals in Pretoria. Matches up to some of the other moots that seem to be considered. Give credit to students where it's due, i say.

If I'm not mistaken - Both NLSIU and GNLU secured positions/honorable mentions in this moot.
Anonymous 17 Feb 2010, 02:25
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i didnt know abt this moot. brilliant indian teams are kickin ass.

nls also won glc, ernakulam (very prestigious moot .. organized for last 15 yrs) .. nalsar, nlu, nliu also participated. rankings need to be updated.
Anonymous 17 Feb 2010, 02:29
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Way to go NLU Jodhpur. Keep making us (alumni) proud.
Anonymous 17 Feb 2010, 02:46
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Right. NLU Jodhpur's Jessup and Stetson win, coupled with the best memo and best orator awards ... simply ROCKING :D
Anonymous 17 Feb 2010, 03:05
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don't suddenly wake up because certain colleges are failing to make any movements up the ladder, if you really wanted the moots to be included, it should have been pointed out earlier not because of an after thought.

way to go Jodhpur, way to go NALSAR, NLS buck up, NUJS still a lot at stake guys-come on.
Anonymous 17 Feb 2010, 04:02
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Finally, NLU Delhi gets its due. Watch out for more from this sleeping tiger!
Anonymous 17 Feb 2010, 05:00
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Yeah, it's quite ridiculous giving so many points for low-level competitions which NLSIU doesn't even bother participating in. Small-time stuff.
Anonymous 17 Feb 2010, 05:49
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Colleges dont talior their participation according to this site and what it grants points for. if this does rank mooting indeed, im guessing a moot which deserves inclusion should be included irrespective of when it is brought to notice. ya?

anyway .... This discussion is 'moot' as this was brought to the notice of this site *before* this date in an earlier thread as well. It is unfair to include some moots and not some others - when there is no reason for this. i have said this earlier too ....

In fact, I had heard NLS had won a moot in Pune as well on ipr. I confirmed with a student of NLS right now and they did indeed.

According to the details I have gotten .. it was the 'Second B. Krishna Memorial National Intellectual Property Rights Moot Court Competition' in Pune. Last year NLU and NALSAR won it .. this year NLS won it and Campus Law centre came second. ILS, GLC, NLIU, Symbiosis participated among other teams .... I am not sure how winning this moot is any less important to these rankings as any of the moots that are considered important when the same colleges participated everywhere.

I have recently seen the jessup team of NLS argue in chennai .. and so i have been following their mooting .. which is why i bring this to your notice.
Anonymous 17 Feb 2010, 08:01
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This is phenomenal. I think the credit for any of these national law schools is their current mooting team. They have a rigorous selection process to choose mooters from the student body, which is clearly working out.
Legally India has done a great job in invoking interest in Mooting Competitions held in India. And finally, (it has to be said) there is a reason why *national* law schools are in fact *NATIONAL* law schools.
They invite only the creme-de-la-creme and prove their worth.

Way to go nalsar, nls, nlu; and way to go Legally India!
Anonymous 17 Feb 2010, 08:23
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I think this whole system is retarded! I have commented below your chart which states the no. of points for every moot. How can you ever say 2-3 national rounds such as jessup south and ManLachs funding are equal to winning Jessup, VIS or Lachs at the world level??? you win 2-3 of the nationals and you're at par with a team thats won all of the latter? If you want to keep this system credible and not make it one of those India Today ranking nonsense, you seriously need to relook your pointing system!
Anonymous 17 Feb 2010, 08:48
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NLS, NUJS, NALSAR - the 'top' three law schools in India. Is this true anymore? Let's think about it.

Placements - possibly, although it would be interesting to note how many the top firms - AMSS / AZB / Luthra recruited.

Moots - look at the table above!

Research / paper presentations - nothing of any great note that I've heard of, but then I haven't exactly been in the loop!

Faculty - well, honestly, the faculty in Indian law schools is hardly anything to wrie home about (barring a few very good professors) - so pointing a finger at NUJS is not really fair.

which brings me to the last bit, the students - on that, and based on the (quite a) few that I know, I would have to say No.

And the irony is ... it all started with a dream of being the best in the country, and now no one's even trying.
Anonymous 17 Feb 2010, 16:22
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@8- my friend NLSIU participating/not participating is not the benchmark of a moot competitions. Grow up.

@9- I know colleges are not tailoring their participation according to this site, but Legally India does give a fair idea about the important moot competitions. If there are moots which have to be or ought to be included then please by all means tell them. and i think its more of a logistical issue for not including so many competitions. The bandwidth for covering so many moots is a problem i think.

@11- I wouldn't say this system is retarded, i think its an awesome initiative, but i also agree with you on the points alloted for the world finals for jessup, vienna, stetson and man lachs, there ought to be give ten more points for the win think.

@12- Placements- NALSAR/NLS/NUJS still have the best placements around without a speck of doubt. Luthra/AZB/AMSS first do the rounds of these colleges and then go to others, they don't pick many cause most of them get foreign law firms or go for LLM.
Moots- Barring NUJS (they still can do well) NALSAR NLS and NLU J have shown their class, need i say more.
Research/Paper Presentations- There is a lot of research internships and journals that come out of these colleges, please check. Students from these colleges not only join law firms and corporates but go into research organisations.
Faculty- to some extent i agree its not so great, there is a dearth of decent professors, but there are professors who are legends in their field teaching in these colleges and also the new brand of young professors around is heartening to see.
students- once being part of the one of the three colleges and having worked with students from these three and let me add NLU J too into this, i can assure most of them are a class apart.

and i can assure you the three colleges have a lot of respect for each other and all three of them strive for excellence all the time.
Anonymous 17 Feb 2010, 17:54
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My friend, actually it is. Go back and check the only Indian college to have ever won the Jessup.
Anonymous 17 Feb 2010, 18:11
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well i don't deny the fact that they are the only law school in india to win Jessups, man lachs too, however, this does not mean that participation/non-participation of NLS makes a moot court competition less/more important. Its naive to think like that my friend with all due respect to NLS.
Anonymous 17 Feb 2010, 18:35
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I think NUJS is taking the lead as a pioneer of research initiatives. Have a look at the recent special issue on the Delhi HC judgement. NALSAR and NLSIU too have done brilliantly.

And talking about faculty...yes the situation is pretty bad in every college. However NUJS has definitely managed a better haul in terms of recruiting professors who are younger and at the peak in their areas in Law. Take for example prof. Shamnad Basheer, Manoj Kumar Sinha and Sudhir Krishnaswamy. NUJS's legendary MP singh too takes classes.

With the sprouting of new colleges, the competition has just become more intense.

Universities at the top of the ladder are in no hurry to escape the competition. But, just as in any competition, they too seek to reinvent themselves, raise the bar higher constantly and foster greater achievement. All three attributes are true for NLS, NALSAR and NUJS.

So don't let the table fool you. The game just has more players. It doesn't mean the ones who once led it aren't good enough. Theyre still the best
Anonymous 17 Feb 2010, 20:45
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Why are we mixing moot court achievements with placements, research, faculty etc..? MPL is all about Moot Court achievements in ONE ACADEMIC YEAR. It is no big deal if Nalsar is getting the better of NLS on MPL or if NUJS is faring badly. It is in no way reflective of anything other than the college's moot court performance this year.
Anonymous 17 Feb 2010, 21:14
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everyone step down .... if anyone ever made a mountain out of a molehill -- this would be it.

mooting is one of the many activities students of a law school participate in. and let it remain at that. and let those who do it enjoy it - rather than ranking everything in the traditional indian mindset.

and i do think there is fair point someone raised above. if moots are being marked, if would be unfair on colleges if certain moots are marked while others, of the same and in this case, better (international?) standard, are not.

my only point is that including such moots would be a true-er indication of the rankings.

and obviously, participation or not of NLS is no indication. the point they're trying to make is that nls participated in a host of other moots which it won (against the usual NLU, NALSAR etc.) where the quality of particpation was just as good and those wins deserve merit in this rankings. do they not, if these rankings are true indications?

peace out man ....
Anonymous 17 Feb 2010, 22:09
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Hi,

Not sure what #12 really means? The schools mentioned are without doubt the best law schools: in all respects.
Moots: all of these schools have done India proud. Between them they have bagged the haloed international moots such as Jessup (NLSIU), Vis Vienna (NUJS), Stetson (believe all 3), Lachs (NLS).

Research: All of these 3 schools regularly receive research assignments from governments, funding agencies etc.

Placement: well, if the reader had followed Legally India, he/she would have known that the top law firms (including magic circle) have picked up students in hoards! So let's not even go there.

Faculty: now this can be a cause of concern for all 3. Sadly big degrees dont make great teachers and this is a systemic problem. I have seen bright teachers leave some of these schools for the less challenging lives at other non-N regional (like DU) schools. This needs to be stopped. And yes, one way may be to introduce much larger pay packets and for this I don't think there's any shame in going to the corporates and introducing chairs.
Anonymous 19 Feb 2010, 11:06
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But, seriously what happened to NUJS? From staunch claims of one of the best, to zero victories?!!
Anonymous 19 Feb 2010, 12:44
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Well.. Since there is a lot of discussion about what moot should be included and what should not, could the MPL people one and for all list out the parameters on which the moots to be listed on MPL were selected?

One parameter would definitely be the number of top law schools to have participated regularly in that moot- One nls having participated does not necessarily satisfy this criterion. In fact a moot listed on MPL should be one where ALL the top law schools have participated in regularly- ignoring one off cases like Stetson where NUJS does not participate anymore
Number of years the moot has been hosted, Quality of judging, Reputation of the moot
Anonymous 19 Feb 2010, 14:33
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It will be interesting to see how NLSIU fares ones its last, great mooting generation passes out... expect a massive dip then.
Anonymous 19 Feb 2010, 19:15
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Brilliant job boys!!!!!! keep up the good work.
Anonymous 20 Feb 2010, 01:19
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last great mooting generation?!
Anonymous 20 Feb 2010, 04:14
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Nalsar has not won Stetson

And Vis Vienna- ILS Pune stood runners up last year. That is India's best performance at Vis after the NUJS win in 2003.
Anonymous 20 Feb 2010, 20:26
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22 has inside info on the competencies of every student who is going to join NLS for the next 10 years.
Anonymous 21 Feb 2010, 18:59
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@ 26 - It's no secret that the quality of mooting in NLSIU is going down... once the present batch of 4th and 5th years leaves, there's really no one to carry on at that level.
Anonymous 21 Feb 2010, 19:46
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Last great mooting generation? The Jessup team had a third year and a second year, who won the 2nd best orator btw.
Anonymous 22 Feb 2010, 00:48
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And the Vienna team has 2 second years and a third year.
Anonymous 22 Feb 2010, 22:28
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So much for 'The' Law School! Way to go NALSAR!
Anonymous 23 Feb 2010, 01:35
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hehe. insecurity creeping in mr. 30? :-)
kianganz 23 Feb 2010, 07:22
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Hi All,

Thanks for your messages. It does appear that Nalsar has won the NUJS moot but we are still trying to get confirmation from the convenor, which is not forthcoming.

We will update properly once we have got the final confirmation.

Best regards,
Kian
Anonymous 23 Feb 2010, 16:01
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NALSAR has definitely won the NUJS Moot. Too good. Keep up the good work boys. Proud of you guys. NLU was runners up, well done and I think its about time NLS won few moot otherwise, NLU is surely going to take over in sometime.
Anonymous 23 Feb 2010, 17:38
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so when is the score table being updated?

Kian.....?????????????????????????????
Anonymous 23 Feb 2010, 19:57
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NLS won the moot in Jodhpur.
Anonymous 23 Feb 2010, 20:30
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Yes. NLS won the Jodhpur moot over the weekend.
Anonymous 23 Feb 2010, 20:39
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Yes the second year team of NLS won the NLU Anti trust moot this weekend. Nalsar were runners up.