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Anand moot winners lift trophy of patentable, original design?
[[Campus Law Centre Delhi]] emerged victorious at the [[Raj Anand Moot Court Competition|12th Annual Raj Anand Moot]], the first moot in the new season of the [[Mooting Premier League]] after defeating [[Government Law College Mumbai]] in the final rounds.

Aayush Agarwal from Campus Law Centre also won the best speaker award. [[NLSIU Bangalore]] and [[NLIU Bhopal]] finished as semi-finalists in the moot, and NLIU Bhopal bagged the best memorandum award.

The moot, conceived and organised by intellectual property rights (IPR) law firm Anand and Anand, returned after a two year hiatus and was added to as a Tier 4 moot in MPL 3.

Aditya Gupta, an organizer from Anand and Anand told Legally India: “The moot was very satisfying and a grand success. The problem was based on cloud computing and trade secrecy laws. The final rounds were judged by Justice Anil Dave from the Supreme Court and Justice Gita Mittal and Justice Midha from the Delhi High Court.”

The moot team from Campus Law Centre consisted of speakers Aayush Agarwal and Tahini Bhushan, along with researcher Aditya Mathur and additional reseracher Sukhmani Singh.

Best speaker Agarwal said that the team had a brilliant experience and appreciated the judging standards. “The problem was challenging and we enjoyed researching and arguing. During the initial rounds, we had great judges who were IPR experts from the industry. You had to know your basic IPR concepts well. During the later rounds, we had judges from the High Court and Supreme Court.”

Changes in version 3.02 of the [[Mooting Premier League 2011-12 moot court competitions]]: Oxford Media Moot has been tentatively upgraded to Tier 2 World Class level and its India rounds are in Tier 3 due to the transparency, quality of judging and global participation, although it is just in its second year and only India has a national selection round. This will be frozen unless there are strong and impassioned arguments raised against.

The GH Raisoni has been retained in Tier 5 but the SP Sathe moot has been dropped following the organisers’ request to do so last year. School of Law Christ University’s moot has been included in Tier 5.

Additional question: Team MPL is considering elevating the NLIU JurisCorp moot to Tier 4 from Tier 5. While only in its second year, 22 teams participated last year and other Tier 5 moots are “those with very little Indian participation”. There is also funding from JurisCorp and substantial prize money. This moot is similar to most Tier 4 competitions such as NUJS-Herbert Smith or the Amity Moot.

However, we do not have great visibility on judging – any feedback on judges last year and whether they are of Tier 4 calibre? There is also no dedicated website and it does not yet have an established brand name or popularity.

Please leave your input in the comments.

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Comments

bebo 30 Aug 2011, 12:33
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Some suggestions:

1) 3-year law schools should not be allowed to take part in MPL. Students here are old and mature and cannot be compared with 5-year law students who come straight from class 12.

2) I do not think any Indian moot should be ranked above a foreign moot. You are living in a dream world if you think Indian moots are even remotely world class.

3) LI should take a poll and de-recognise moots considered to have biased judging. It is well know what happens in some moots in Western and Southern India.
tingles 30 Aug 2011, 15:03
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1)the three year ones ain't hv the resources as five years ones..compare the stastics and u gonna know...its fair and square when u put the maturity and experience with the mentoring and the guidance that the five years get.
2) 5 year ones have mooting as part of their curriculum...for 3 years its optional.
3)
Do research 30 Aug 2011, 15:40
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[quote name="tingles"]1)the three year ones ain't hv the resources as five years ones..compare the stastics and u gonna know...its fair and square when u put the maturity and experience with the mentoring and the guidance that the five years get.
2) 5 year ones have mooting as part of their curriculum...for 3 years its optional.
3)[/quote]

Well, not all 5 years colleges have mooting as a part of curriculum. NLS doesnt have, NUJS doesnt have (not sure about NALSAR and NLUD). Further, only a few colleges have mentoring system in mooting and most of them do not.
ANURAG OJHA ,LAW FACULTY DU 31 Aug 2011, 15:09
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PROBABLY THIS GENTLEMAN LACK WISDOM OF JURIDICAL EMANCIPATION,STUDENTS AFTER 12TH HAVE TO DO LL.B COURSE BY 5 YEARS SO THEY ,BY REASONING OF LEARNED AUTHOR THEY SHOULDNOT BE ALLOWED TO TAKE PART WITH THE STUDENTS OF 4TH AND 5TH YEARS.I INVITE HIM BEBO TO VISIT FACULTY OF LAW ,UNIVERSITY OF DELHI .TO KNOW ATLEAST WHAT LEGAL CONSCIOUSNESS DEMANDS.CORPORATE LOOMERS CAN NEVER APPRECIATE THE OCCULT DIVINITY OF LAW AS A INSTRUMENT OF SOCIAL JUSTICE. I JOINED LL.B AFTER B.SC,THERE WERE 8 IPS ,2 IRS,1 IFS,1 MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL ,3 ENGINEERS AND MANY POST GRADUATE STUDENTS WERE THERE .THE DISSCUSSION IN THE CLASS WAS NOT TO UNDERSTAND LAW BUT TO APPRECIATE AND CRITICISE THE JUDICATIVE VALUE OF JUDGE.CAN I -A FRESH GRADUATE ARGUE TO BE OVERPOWERED BY BABOOCRATIC HUBRIS OF LITERARY EMBELLISHMENT ?-NO BECAUSE WE ARE MADE TO FACE COMPETITIONS TO UNDERSTAND AND ESTABLISH THE RULE OF LAW AND EQUALITY AMONG CLASSES NOT TO TAKE MISNOMERIC ARGUMENT OF CLASS BIAS WITHIN SAME CLASS. PLEASE REVISIT YOUR QUIBBLED AND FAKE REASONING.
funny 3 Sept 2011, 05:56
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lol this post is just amusing .. im sure LI posted it for the entertainment of the readers... hahaha so funny...his grammar is also haywire.. just like his post
Interesting suggestion! 5 Sept 2011, 12:45
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[quote name="bebo"]Some suggestions:

1) 3-year law schools should not be allowed to take part in MPL. Students here are old and mature and cannot be compared with 5-year law students who come straight from class 12. [/quote]

This is amusing. Attempting to take this comment to its (il)logical conclusion, it seems we must also prevent 1st/2nd year students from having to compete against 4th/5th year students. Maybe also prohibit junior practitioners at the bar from appearing against the senior ones. Mooting serves as a platform for the academic development of students LEARNING law. What has AGE got to do with it? In any case, which 3 year law school has challenged the dominance of the 5 year law schools to merit such paranoia (ILS & GLC usually send mooting teams from their 5 year courses). Considering the lack of resources and infrastructure these colleges overcome to do well in such competitions,such attempts to undermine their achievement is shameful.

PS - Why don't you send out your valuable advice to Moot Court Organizers who invite such colleges in the first place. Maybe you find someone suffering from the same disorder to endorse your views.
Manasa 15 Jan 2012, 18:21
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In foreign moots, we have LLMs and higher competing against our 5 year law courses.

After a while, it doesn't matter.
Rahul 30 Aug 2011, 12:40
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Who cares??? Kian report something good.Its been almost a month since u have come up with something interesting.
kianganz 30 Aug 2011, 12:42
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MPL 3 will be interesting! :)

We have slowed down a little bit in the last month but please bear with us for a while, LI will hopefully be back to its usually more exciting scheduling in a little bit.

Best
Kian
anonymous guest 30 Aug 2011, 12:53
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i think there is no need to put NLIU juris Corp in tier 4, around 20 or even more than that participate in every tier 5 moot.
Also, if number of teams is the point, then KLA Moot should be in tier 3 as around 50 teams participate in it every year!!!
kianganz 30 Aug 2011, 15:58
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From the Legallypedia's mooting discussion page:
"Degrading of Bar Council of India Moot, before last year, BCI was having most challenging format of mooting in India, it was put in world class, but last year judging quality, problem quality was really pathetic, so it can not be treated equal to DM Harish moot which has improved a lot in terms of reputation and participation in last three years. Participation of foreign teams in DM Harish is really good and challenging. I request you to upgrade it to World Class (Tier 4)because it is the only Indian moot where judging quality and participation matches world class level and its definetely better than the national rounds of stetson and jessup which are in same tier."
Le 30 Aug 2011, 17:01
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the article does not give a very basic info - how many teams participated in the competition
MPL Live 30 Aug 2011, 17:43
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Hey,

Fifteen teams participated in the moot. Apologies for the excluding this in the story.

Cheers,
Prashanth
Le 1 Sept 2011, 17:19
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thanks for replying, i do hope that MPL3 will also be as exciting as the previous two years and pls try to provide info on how many teams participated in the competition in your future articles as it gives an objective comparative perspective to the moots.
Prasad 30 Aug 2011, 17:19
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Kian,

in all fairness u should include Luthra, MM Singhvi, GIMC and Herbert Smith in tier 3 as well if you're putting Oxford India there. Luthra & Singhvi have double the participation that Oxford India has, have been there for 10 yrs. each of them are known for their judging, transparency, etc. as well..Plus they have had international participation last couple of years...
GNLU, although quite new has decent international participation,plus they fly in judges from WTO and from across the country.
Herbert Smith has exceptional judging..They spend more on flying in judges from all over than on the actual organization, which is not a bad thing..
You're putting Oxford India in the same league as BCIT and DM Harish.
BCIT is there because, well its BCIT! Always been a challenge, and most colleges send their most seasoned mooters for it. DM Harish has quality international participation that equals the Oxford world rounds. Check out both websites. If any moot deserves an upgrade, it's probably this one...
Although Stetson and Jessup India rounds have faced their share of criticism for bad judging,they're still elims for moots that have tremendous global presence, and over 80 countries conduct national rounds before the world rounds. India is the only country that has national qualifiers for Oxford.
Oxford India had 22 teams last year, from which 4 qualify to go to Oxford. Stetson,Jessup both have 50+ teams (north and south rounds combined) from which 4 qualify for each. So the they're definitely a greater challenge..
Without meaning any ill-will towards the Oxford moot, it seems way too early to put it in the same league. Either that, or consider upgrading other moots that deserve it...
Sathe 30 Aug 2011, 17:58
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GET SP SATHE BACK... PLEASE!!
Oxford Tier 3 30 Aug 2011, 18:02
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"in all fairness u should include Luthra, MM Singhvi, GIMC and Herbert Smith in tier 3 as well if you're putting Oxford India there."

Luthra abd Singhvi might have double the participation but the point it to maintain the quality of judging the Oxofrd organising committee restricts the number of team.

Herbert Smith has good judging but if you compare the profile of the judges of Hrbert Smith and Oxford you will find the difference. Luthra and GIMC have decent judges Luthra is almost same like every decent moot. GIMC is little better but especially during the advance rounds. Singhvi well trial court judges judge so well lets not compaare. Also what we need to see is that this is just a qualifying round and not the final rounds still the best judges from India and abroad are called for judging a qualification round. If we compare the judging and transperance with any other qualifying round be it Stetson or Jessup or Henry Dunant or Manfread the quality of organising, jdging ect is way better.
Last time some people had some problem with the problem but this year the problem framed is also fantastic. In Oxford people who really know Media Law and International Law come to judge very round from Prelims to Finals (in finals also there were atleast 3 people who knew about it, which is very rare in moots in India when you call judges and Senior Advocated for finals) whereas in other moot either the prelims are bad (well finals always invariably is as the judges and advocates know nothing) That was not a case in Oxford. In Stetson there were around 40 teams in Oxford there were around 29 in international rounds and this after considering that afct that Oxford is in its 5th year and Stetson in 16th.

After a long time there is a moot in India which has everything perfect so whats wrong with upgrading it and keeping it with DMH which is one of the best in India (though just comparing the judging quality which almost everyone has problem with in every Indian moot Oxofrd will be ahead)
anonymous guest 30 Aug 2011, 18:31
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In changelog of MPL 3 (3.02 version), its written Raisoni moot removed. Isn't it SP Sathe that is removed???
MPL Live 30 Aug 2011, 18:53
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Thanks for notifying us about that error. It stands corrected.

Cheers,
Prashanth
atlawschl 30 Aug 2011, 18:43
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It's only fair to have the NLIU moot upgraded, if those are the facts.
MPL Live 30 Aug 2011, 18:44
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@6 and 8:

Thanks for the inputs.

Completely agree with you on the point of promoting moots that have maintained high judging standards. Instead of going back to status quo on Oxford, we are planning to promote four worthy Tier 4 moots to Tier 3 (solely on the ground of very good judging) in the next version of MPL 3 moots:

1- NUJS Herbert Smith Moot
2- K K Luthra Criminal Law Moot
3- NLS Arbitration Moot
4- GNLU International Moot (GIMC)

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We are also seriously considering the promotion of D.M. Harish from Tier 3 to Tier 2.

We've always received positive reviews on judging from all the aforesaid moots. And judging is indeed the most important criteria for classifying moots based on tiers, apart from the general factors like popularity, participation, etc.

If this is done, we'll also look to promote a few deserving Tier 5 moots to Tier 4.

Thanks!

Cheers,
Prashanth
Dabang 31 Aug 2011, 16:09
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wtf GIMC is all rigged, foreign teams always win bcos they wanna increase foreign participation.......

i think u r frm GNLU thats why promoting GIMC moot
NALSARite 1 Sept 2011, 12:19
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These changes are welcome changes.
I dont know why the ICC Trial Moot is in Tier II, Its the only moot being recognized by ICC as International Criminal Law moot. I agree only 20 teams participate, but to be in 20 teams, you have to be in top 2 of your country and also top 20 of the world. As far as Indian teams are concerned, 5-6 teams go through assignment where it is decided that who will be two teams to represent India.
It is only trial moot, and in most of the part of the world, Europe and US, there are regional rounds. I think it can be promoted to Tier I. Last time we did fairly well, but the recognition was not enough, with the maturity, it must be promoted.
Me 3 Sept 2011, 10:12
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Thanx Prashanth. But why is SOEL Tax moot not included or covered by LI. I think it definitely deserves a place in MPL
Juris Corp Moot 30 Aug 2011, 19:13
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Hi,
The NLIU Juris Corp Moot has fairly good judging.. the judges in the prelims include some of their alumni, associates from top law firms, litigating lawyers and academics from various Indian universities... the finals are judged by sitting or ex-judges... overall the moot was worth going to...
I've heard from some friends (unofficially) that the moot is set to offer the highest prize money among any moot in India... I agree with #10 and the Legally India team that the NLIU-Juris Corp Moot deserves to be upgraded.. surely the moot that has the highest prize money will see good competition (even if not the best) and does not deserve to be in the lowest tier..
Ritu 30 Aug 2011, 19:20
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@Legallyindia: I can't seem to find the current MPL 3 rankings. Can you post a link?
Christ Moot 30 Aug 2011, 19:21
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Prashanth,
Though the article says that the School of Law, Christ University Moot has been included in Tier 5, you wiki-MPL page does not reflect the same:
http://www.legallyindia.com/wiki/Mooting_Premier_League_2011-12_moot_court_competitions please check.
Swarathma 30 Aug 2011, 19:47
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NLIU- Juris Corp is a really good moot . As far as the judging standards go they were excellent at the last edition ( I say this from a personal experience)Although new it deserves a better stand in the league rankings. Also with the prize money I bet it 'll attract a lot of attention.
anonymous guest 30 Aug 2011, 20:00
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Why not KLA Moot also be elevated to Tier3. Never has judging being questioned, judge who judges Jessups India rounds come for adjudging there. Also, it is very old prestigious moot. This time it will be 23rd KLA Moot and seeks participation from almost 50 law schools.
I don't understand why should KLA not be elevated whish is so old, while elevating Luthra whish is 7 yrs. old or GIMC just 3 yrs. old.
it shud nt have happened 30 Aug 2011, 20:36
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Though Anand & Anand is indeed a prestigious firm with some of the best minds of the country working there, but it was not expected to organize such dishevelled and colored moot.

The memorials were marked in most outrageous manner with literally illogical marks allotted (p.s. I was not the participant, but have received this feedback from more than 1 teams, ofcourse they didnt make semis, but its nt the grunt, rather I have seen the proof) and more so ever, can any of the organising committee person reply here that how the results were decided when the last rounds were not even finished ???

Seems 'the long haul' has brought in newcomers, who believe more in lobbying then having a fair competition !!!
DEAL WITH IT 31 Aug 2011, 07:54
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(p.s. I was not the participant, but have received this feedback from more than 1 teams, ofcourse they didnt make semis, but its nt the grunt, rather I have seen the proof)


it's never the grunt...is it?? :)
anon 31 Aug 2011, 09:40
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@17: If you weren't a participant it is unfair to question the integrity of the moot on basis of hearsay! The memorial marking seemed pretty fair. The moot was very well organised with an extremely good judging panel and totally deserves to be in Tier 4 being the most prestigious IPR moot in the country.
it shud nt have happened 3 Sept 2011, 16:31
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[quote name="anon"]@17: The memorial marking seemed pretty fair. The moot was very well organised with an extremely good judging panel [/quote]

a. ask the participants where they were made to wait when the other rounds were going on...
b. not questioning at all the judges, or the quality of moot.. i m just surprised over the way it seemed so obviously rigged !!!
passerby 31 Aug 2011, 01:28
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all the other blah blah aside...yaaaaaaaay [...]! the moot was always going to be sexed out with you in it.
passerby 2 Sept 2011, 22:01
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@kian - i was congratulating a particular member of the CLC team in my comment. it makes no sense if you block her name out. really, now.
Juris corp 31 Aug 2011, 01:50
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Well NLIU Juris Corp Moot definitely does not deserve Tier 5. NUJS Herbert Smith has normally 12 teams participating. On the other hand NLIU Juris corp moot had 22 teams and I also read that the prize money will be the highest compared to any Indian moot. Further, NLIu last year had their alumni from various top firms like senior associates and associates from Luthra, AMSS, Khaitan, Platinum Partners, etc. judging us. The Managing Partner of Juris Corp H Jayesh was also the judge at the final along with other sitting judges from HC and I also believe 1 judge from the SC. We must not forget that NLIU has been organising moots every year right from Tankha to Stetson North zone and now to Juris Corp. Herbert Smith also has their alumni judging their prelim rounds. from my experience I believe NLIU Juris Corp moot deserves Tier 4. I was happy with how NLIU organised the moot.
NLIU 31 Aug 2011, 05:42
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Juris Corp is just like any other Tier 5 moot. The teams in all these range from 16-20. The judging is mostly same in all these with alumni of these colleges and some neter judging in advanced rounds. As far as prize money is concerned its IICLAM (around 40k) which offers the most rpize money and an LLM fom NUS Singapore for the best speaker.
anonymous guest 31 Aug 2011, 06:43
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What is your say on KLA Moot issue that has been raised up Kian???
Ananya 31 Aug 2011, 09:52
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I think its a good decision to move up Juris corp to tier-4. From my personal experience, i must say that the moot was organised extremely well last year with an excellent judging quality with judges from SC, MP and Delhi HC, along with H. Jayesh, the man himself (for those who don't know, he is the founding partner of Juris Corp). It seemed as if a lot of money was put in by the firm to organise the moot. It can be considered at par with Herbert Smith, amity or any other tier-4 moot.
NLIU 31 Aug 2011, 15:23
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it a good decision to upgrade Herbert Smith to tier 3. But rest well the judging is not as good as Oxford or Herbet Smith as the prelimes are judges by not very experienced people as in these people would know intl. law in general but thats about it whereas in Oxford oand Herbert Smith people know speciafically about the area of problem. also the problem of the other moots are ok not exceptional. Also in KK Luthra the transperancey is an issue its not the most transparent moot.
NLIU Tier-4 31 Aug 2011, 15:24
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If NLIU Juris Corp is uograded then every college will want their moot to be upgraeded specially the Nationals as Juris Corp was organised and rest of the things the judging the particiapating teams was like any other tier 5 moot.
SOEL 31 Aug 2011, 22:51
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Where is the SOEL Tax moot?
anonymous guest 1 Sept 2011, 08:05
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I second person claiming KLA Moot to be in Tier 3. I went to that moot last to last year; and the moot was awesome seeking highest number of participation. It deserves Tier 3.
Ranking 2 Sept 2011, 07:34
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What is there no rank table?
Ops 2 Sept 2011, 14:31
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eeh! was it necessary to use CAPS?
Caps 2 Sept 2011, 16:57
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He he... @ 28... who used Caps.. amusing...
anonymous guest 4 Sept 2011, 10:59
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Prashanth

There is no need to elevate D.M. Harish to Tier 2; if it is so done what about BCIT Moot, the most prestigious moot of India.

Also, there are 'n' number of moots which should be elevated from their respective tiers if D M Harish gets into Tier 2. It would be wrong decision surely. BCI, then also deserves to be in Tier 2 and then KLA Moot, as some person asked, should also be in Tier3. Also, GIMC then should be in tier 2 considering foreign participation and good judging. Isn't it so.
I would rather advise to maintain status quo.

Thanks!!!
NALSARite 4 Sept 2011, 22:56
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BCI Moot was used to be best moot in India and it was in Tier II when it enjoyed the reputation of being best moot in India.

Are you seriously trying to say GIMC and DMH is equal, it means Oxford and Jessup World rounds are equal.

DM Harish deserves the asked respect, and is entitled to be promoted.
anonymous guest 5 Sept 2011, 12:22
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My only concern is that if DMH is promoted, then why not BCI too which has got international.
Merely, one well conducted DMH (last year) should not be elevated only on that ground. I can't understand what is wrong with BCI that you are finding with BCI elevation, mere one bad conduct should not raise qustions on its prestige. ITS THE BEST MOOT OF INDIA!!!
ALSO, IF dmh IS PROMOTED, N NMBER OF MOOTS THEN SHOULD BE PROMOTED FROM THEIR RESPECTIVE TIERS.