Jindal enters mooting fray as Indian teams fail to break at Vis Hong Kong Moot although NUJS and NLSIU managed to pick up honourable mentions. Plus the NFCG-Nalsar Moot…
[[Jindal Global Law School]] announced its presence in the Mooting Premier League sponsored by Allen & Overy with a successful campaign at the [[NLSIU International Arbitration Moot Court|NLS International Arbitration Moot]], defeating current MPL leaders [[Nalsar Hyderabad]] in the semi finals and [[NLIU Bhopal]] in the finals.
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At the prestigious [[Willem C. Vis (East) International Commercial Arbitration Moot, Hong Kong]], Indian teams could not break into the last sixteen but [[NUJS Kolkata]] and [[NLS Bangalore]] won Honorable mentions for the best respondent memorandum.
And [[NLSIU Bangalore]] defeated [[HNLU Raipur]] at the [[NFCG-Nalsar Moot Court Competition on Corporate Governance|Nalsar-NFCG Corporate Governance moot, Hyderabad]].
The three moots were blogged by the MPL team last Sunday, where chances of teams going past the indomitable Nalsar in this season were also discussed. The conclusion was: the MPL is still very much winnable by NUJS.
Vis Hong Kong
Many were hoping that Indian teams would enjoy a successful run at this Tier 1 moot, but none of the Indian participants could break into the octa-finals.
Nevertheless, NLSIU and NUJS won Honorable Mentions for the Best Respondent’s Memorandum and earned 10 MPL points each. The NUJS team from also won the Shanghai pre moot and finished runners up at the India pre moot last month. NLIU Bhopal was also awarded the Spirit of the Moot award for overcoming substantial obstacles and participating in the moot.
NLS International Arbitration
A team of second year students from Jindal Global Law School emerged winners at this Tier 4 moot which saw participation from 28 teams. NLIU Bhopal finished runners up and [[NLU Delhi]] won the best memorandum award.
[[GNLU Gandhinagar]] and Nalsar finished semi finalists. Aayog Doshi from GNLU won the best speaker award.
Karl P Rustumkhan, the JGLS oralist, told Legally India that he was thrilled to win his first moot. “We had been working on this for the last 3 months or so. We thank our faculty for their help. The problem was well drafted. The initial rounds were quite easy, but in the semis and the finals, the judges were too stringent and they tried to impose their understanding of the law.”
Best speaker Aayog from GNLU said he appreciated the judging standards of the moot. “It was a great learning experience. The problem was also very well drafted and with sound research, I was able to speak well. It was an intellectually stimulating moot.”
Nalsar – NFCG Corporate Governance
NLSIU Bangalore emerged winners here and also won the best memorandum award. HNLU Raipur came out with a strong performance finishing runners-up and its speaker Karandeep winning the best speaker award. GNLU Gandhinagar and NLIU Bhopal finished semi finalists.
Karandeep, HNLU’s best oralist winner, said that the moot discussed contemporary issues relating to the problems faced by investors today. “The moot was very relevant to the present time. The judges were really good, most of them were Nalsar alumni in the initial stages and High Court justices and senior advocates at the end. They asked good questions and gave us valuable suggestions.”
With only three mooting events left this season, the quest for the top spot will be intense with NUJS hoping to get ahead of Nalsar in the [[MPL Standings]] and only 10 points separating the teams.
Teams are sure to be duking it out at [[Willem C. Vis International Commercial Arbitration Moot, Vienna|Vis Vienna]], the only Tier 1 global championship moot left this season.
[[Mooting Premier League 2 season standings]]
| Pos | Law school | Pts | Details |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Nalsar Hyderabad | 189 | [NLS Arbitration] (Semi-finalist); Jessup International Rounds (10th Best Memorandum); Stetson World Rounds (8th best oralist); ISRO Manfred Lachs (Runners-up, Best Speaker); Leiden-Sarin (Runners-up); Amity (Semi-finalist, Best Memorandum); SP Sathe (Winner, best speaker); NLU-J Antitrust (Winner, best memorandum, best speaker); GIMC (Runners up); KLA Moot (Winners); BCI Moot (Winners);Jessup South (Runners up);NLIU-Juris Corp (Best speaker); Stetson South India (Winner), Nani Palkhiwala (Winners), Surana Int\‘l Minority (Semifinalist); Surana Tiral Advocacy South (Seminfinalist) |
| 2 | NUJS Kolkata | 179 | [Vis-HK] (Honourable Mention for Best Respondent\‘s Memorandum); Jessup International Rounds (Quarter-finalist, 16th Best Memorandum, 29th Best Speaker, 36th Best Speaker); Fiat Justitia (Winners, best memorandum); [NLU-D Corp Law] (Runners up); NLU-J Antitrust (Semi finalist); KLA Moot (Best Speaker, Runners up);BCI Moot (Semifinalist); Commonwealth International Rounds (Best Speaker, Semifinalist); Jessup North (Runners-up, Best Memorandum); Oxford-Media India Round (Winner); Commonwealth India Rounds (Winners; Best Memo); Nalsar B.R. Sawhny Moot (Best Memo, Best Speaker, Semi-finalist) |
| 3 | NLU Delhi | 162 | [NLS Arbitration] (Best Memorandum); Jessup International Rounds (Octa-finalist, Overall Best Applicant Award, 9th Best Speaker, 17th Best Speaker); Leiden-Sarin (Best speaker); Herbert Smith (Runners up, Best Speaker); Fiat Justitia (Runners up); DM Harish (Semifinalist);KLA Moot (Semifinalist);Jessup North (Winner, Best Speaker); KK Luthra (Runners up); HNLU Moot (Winner, Best Speaker, Best Researcher) Nalsar B.R. Sawhny Moot (Semi finalist) Henry Dunant (Runners up) |
| 4 | NLSIU Bangalore | 141 | [Vis-HK] (Honourable Mention for Best Respondent\‘s Memorandum); [Nalsar-NFCG] (Winner, best memorandum); Oxford Media Law (Semi finalist, Best speaker); ISRO Manfred Lachs (Winner); Herbert Smith (Semifinalist);GIMC (Semifinalist); DM Harish (Best Researcher);BCI Moot (Runners up);Jessup South (Best Speaker, Semifinalist); KK Luthra (Semi finalist); Oxford-Media India Round (Runners up, Best speaker); Stetson South India (Semi-finalist), Nani Palkhiwala (Best Speaker), Rizvi Moot (Winners) |
| 5 | ILS Pune | 94 | Jessup International Rounds (30th Best Speaker, 56th Best Speaker); Amity (Best Speaker); Raisoni (Runners up); Surana IT (Semi finalist); Surana Corp (Best Memorandum, Semifinalist); Jessup South (Winners, Best Memorandum);Stetson South India (Semi-finalist), Surana Trial Advocacy South (Winners) |
| 6 | NLU Jodhpur | 86.5 | ELSA-WTO Asia Rounds (Best Memorandum Overall, Best Memorandum Complainant); Amity (Runners up, Best Researcher); Herbert Smith (Best Memo, Semifinalist);Fiat Justitia (Super six); Surana IT (Runners up); Surana Corp (Winners); GIMC (Semifinalist);Oxford-Media India Round (Semi finalist, Best memorandum); NLIU-Juris Corp (Runners up); Maritime International Arbitration Moot, Sydney (The Sarah Derrington Encouragement Award)* |
| 7 | HNLU Raipur | 84 | [Nalsar-NFCG] (Runners-up, best speaker); Red Cross Moot (Runners up); ULC Moot (Best Memorandum, Best Researcher);BCI Moot (Best Female Speaker);Oxford-Media India Round (Semi finalist); NLIU-Juris Corp (Winner); Henry Dunant (Winners) |
| 8 | NLIU Bhopal | 83 | [Nalsar-NFCG] (Semi-finalist); [NLS Arbitration] (Runners-up); Herbert Smith (Winners);ULC Moot (Best Speaker, Semifinalist); Stetson North (Semi finalist); HNLU Moot {Semi-finalist) Nani Palkhiwala (Best Researcher), Surana Trial Advocacy North (Winners, Best Speaker), Henry Dunant (Semifinalist, Best Memo), Rizvi Moot (semi-finalist) |
| 9 | GNLU Gandhinagar | 80 | [Nalsar-NFCG] (Semi-finalist); [NLS Arbitration] (Semi-finalist, best speaker); Pro bono Moot (Semi finalist); Raisoni (Semi finalists, Best Memo); DM Harish (Winners); BCI Moot (Best Memorandum, Best Male Speaker);ICC Mediation (Special Award for the Team Which Best Acknowledged Cultural Differences);Commonwealth India Rounds (Semi finalists); John Marshall (Winner, Ambassador Round), Nani Palkhiwala (Semifinalist), Surana Trial Advocacy North (Semifinalist) |
| 10 | RGNUL Patiala | 77.5 | Pro bono Moot (Best Researcher); SP Sathe (Runners-up); NLU-D Corp Law (Winners, best memorandum (joint), best researcher); Surana IT (Semi finalist); DM Harish (Runners up);KK Luthra (Best speaker); Stetson North (Semi finalist, best speaker); NLIU-Juris Corp (Semi finalist); Surana Trial Advocacy North (Runners up), Rizvi Moot (best speaker) |
| 11 | NUALS Kochi | 68 | Stetson World Rounds (3rd best memo, 10th best oralist);Surana IT (Winners); Surana Corp (Best Speaker); Stetson South India (Runner-up, Best Memo), Nalsar B.R. Sawhny Moot (Runner up) Surana Trial Advocacy North (Best Memo), Surana Int\‘l Minority (Runners up) |
| 12 | RMNLU Lucknow | 49 | ISRO Manfred Lachs (Semi-finalist); SP Sathe (Semi-finalist, best memorandum); Surana IT (Best Memorandum); NLU-D Corp Law (Semi finalist); Surana Corp (Runners up); GIMC (Best Memorandum);Henry Dunant (Best Researcher) |
| 13 | Government Law College, Mumbai | 45.5 | NLU-D Corp Law (Best speaker); Fiat Justitia (Super six, best speaker); NLU-J Antitrust (Semi finalist); DM Harish (Best Memorandum);KLA Moot (Best Memorandum);Jessup South (Semifinalist);Nani Palkhiwala (Best Memo) |
| 14 | SOEL Chennai | 41 | Surana IT (Best speaker); NLU-D Corp Law (Semi finalist); Commonwealth India Rounds (Runners up, Best Speaker); Surana Int\‘l Minority (Winners), Surana Tiral Advocacy South (Runners up, Best Speaker) |
| 15 | Army Institute of Law, Mohali | 35 | Pro bono Moot (Semi finalist, Best Memo); KLA Moot (Semifinalist);Nani Palkhiwala (Semifinalist), Surana Int\‘l Minority(Best Memo), Rizvi Moot (runner-up, best memo) |
| 16 | UILS Chandigarh | 33 | ULC Moot (Winners); Stetson North (Runners up); Nani Palkhiwala (Runners Up), Surana Trial Advocacy South (Best Memo) |
| 17 | Campus Law Centre Delhi | 29.5 | SP Sathe (Semi-finalist); Fiat Justitia (Super six); NLU-J Antitrust (Runners-up); HNLU Moot (Runners up, Best Memorandum) Nalsar B.R. Sawhny Moot (Winner) |
| 18 | Amity Law School | 22 | ISRO Manfred Lachs (Semi-finalist); Amity (Semi-finalist); Jessup North (Semi-finalist); Stetson North (Best memorandum); Commonwealth India Rounds (Semi finalists) |
| 19 | University School of Law and Legal Studies, Guru Gobind Singh Indraprashta University, Delhi | 20 | Stetson North (Winner) |
| 19 | Symbiosis, Pune | 20 | Pro bono Moot (Runners up); Raisoni (Winners); NLU-J Antitrust (Best researcher) |
| 21 | Jindal Global Law School | 15 | [NLS Arbitration] (Winner) |
| 21 | Institute of Law, Nirma University, Ahmedabad | 15 | Henry Dunant (Semifinalist, Best Speaker) |
| 21 | Law Centre I (LC-I) Delhi University | 15 | FDI Moot (Semi-finalist; 2 Honourable Mentions); Surana Trial Advocacy North (Semifinalist), Rizvi Moot (semifinalist) |
| 21 | Tamil Nadu Dr. Ambedkar Law University, Government Law College Chennai | 15 | Amity (Winner) |
| 25 | CNLU Patna | 13 | Jessup North (Semi-finalist); NLIU-Juris Corp (Semi finalist, Best Memorandum) |
| 26 | M.S.Ramaiah College of Law | 10 | Pro bono Moot (Winners) |
| 26 | Bishop Cottons Women\‘s Christian Law School, Bangalore | 10 | Stetson South India (Best Speaker) |
| 28 | Baroda School of Legal Studies | 8 | Raisoni (Semi finalists, Best Speaker) |
| 29 | Satara University | 5 | Pro bono Moot (Best Speaker) |
| 29 | Faculty of Law, University of Allahabad | 5 | BCI Moot (Semifinalist); |
| 29 | Seedling School of Law and Governance, Jaipur | 5 | Surana Int\‘l Minority (Best Speaker) |
| 29 | CMR Law College, Bangalore | 5 | ULC Moot (Runners up); |
| 33 | School of Law, Christ University | 4 | Surana Corp (Semifinalist); |
| 34 | CUSAT Kochi | 3 | Surana Int\‘l Minority(Semifinalist) |
| 34 | Rajiv Gandhi School of Intellectual Property Law, IIT, Kharagpur | 3 | HNLU Moot (Semi finalist) |
| 34 | New Law College, Bharti Vidayapeeth University, Pune | 3 | Surana Trial Advocacy South (Semifinalist) |
| 34 | Government Law College, Ernakulam | 3 | ULC Moot (Semifinalist); |
| 38 | NLU Orissa | 2.5 | NLU-D Corp Law (Best memorandum (joint)) |
| 39 | V.M. Salgaocar Law College, Panjim | 1.5 | Fiat Justitia (Super six) |
Legend: T1, T2, T3, T4 and T5 (total points won in each tier); Pos (Position); W (Wins); R/u (Runner-ups); S/F- Semifinalist; B S (Best speaker); B M/R (Best Memorial/Researcher); HM (Honorable Mention & other equivalent awards); Pts (Points) For more information please refer to the [[MPL 2 rulebook]].
Comments
If there is good judging NLS has to perform well!
Looks like even VIS had bad judging!
If there is good judging its theoretically impossible for NLS to loose.
The formula is very simple
NLS wins = good judging
NLS looses = bad judging
I bet the pathetic caustic comments stem from your own personal failure and angst. Try and adress that issue instead of hitting out at others.
The noise about the Jessup South India Rounds was justified.
It was fairly established and endorsed by the *brilliant* performance displayed by the *South Winners* - ILS.
ILS speakers stood 30th and 56th in world finals!
If you want to compare i will give you last year oral rankings of your college 53 and 56.
ILS could not break into top 32 because they faced a Semi-finalist in their prelims.
they stood 40 with very high raw scores.
Read it again - ILS received two honorable mentions, and NALSAR had only memo points. THIS CLEARLY SHOWS THAT ILS WAS JUSTIFIED IN WINNING SOUTH ROUNDS
That team worked day and night for jessups and in ILS teams dont know the meaning of the phrase "college support" unlike N- schools where you get everything.
BTW congrats to JGLS.
top 50 speakers were given prizes at jessup world finals not 20.
And stop mud slinging. It's disgusting. The top 4 colleges are good, and will continue to be so. Healthy competition elevates performance, and not this juvenile sick mud slinging.
@12 - I didn't mention my college. On what basis did you assume I'm from NLS?
[Yes, you are correct, thank you for pointing out it has now been corrected! -Ed]
1) respect the team has earned from its peers
2) general popularity
3) being a good ambassador for the college and country
4) things like that...
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-04-06/kanpur/29388098_1_clat-aspirants-law-colleges
Have you ever seen the unity which is present among IITians. They do not fight like us. They consider themselves under the same family.
Warren Buffet asked Bill Gates to tell him the institution where he should recruit from. Bill gates said "IIT"., and not IIT-K,IIT-D,IIT-B,IIT-Kgp.
National law Schools fight like dogs, "My car is better than yours", and in each and every point they wnt to show their superiority.
Please, dont compare IITs with NLUs
Regards,
National Law Schoolite and not only a student of NUJS!
The point is that every school has got talent. just the percentage of talent differs in various colleges.
May be in N-schools have got 30 talents kids in batch of 50 and other schools have 5 in a batch of 50.
That doesnot mean no other school can ever win a moot other than NLSIU.
@ 21 even though 2,50,000(i dont know how far it is true!) write CLAT. the ratio of applications:seats may be same with IIT- JEE or other competitive exams but the quality of preparation is different
out of 250000 there will not even be 2500 who are seriously preparing. but in case of other exams 90% of the applicants are serious. so please dont compare N-schools with IIt's and IIM's
Wasn't it passing time?
And wasn't it stud*?
Why dont we allot points to every participating team :P
@#16: who told u only top 20 oralists r hon mens? Nowhere does ILSA say it. I agree with #20.
None of this is to take away from the fact that they (ILS) did a great job, and sometimes u can't help the luck of the draw at jessup, with respect to teams u face and with respect to judges who mark you. WHICH IS WHY top 50 oralists are honoured at the ILSA awards, since very few points separate them.
neway,having got 2nd best NAlSAR has done a gud job bt ask the mooters,did they do this moot to get points on MPL or to hone their argumentation n knowledge
At least until last year, only the top 20 oralists were honoured with plaques. That is ILSA's way of hnouring the best oralists. ILSA also comes out with a regulation list of the top 100 speakers and the top 30 memos, but that is not equivalent to an Hon Men.
I'm not sure about the number of memorials, but at least 25 were honoured on stage.
I am not speaking of the list published by ILSA on its website.
Moreover, the certificates awarded did not mention the rank but just mentioned "top 100 oralists" or "top (25) memorials"
NLU Delhi got points for honourable mention under the Best Applicant Side catergory, this was an award introduced this year. Agreed. There was another award which was introduced this year, it was the best applicant memorial, Jessup gave this award to three participating institutions, Nalsar was one of them. I see no reasons as why this wasnt considered as an honourable mention. If you have doubts about the veracity of this statement, you can check their official website. http://www.ilsa.org/jessup/archives/2011.php
I think Nalsar deserves points for honourable mention here considering the fact that colleges have got points for getting the 56th Best Speaker Award and NLU Delhi for Best Applicant Side Award.
I am from NUJS. As far as I am aware, NUJS only received one honourable mention at Vis (East). Although, I would be only too glad to hear that you are right.
any news from ICC Hague???
was there any national university team which participated???
to all you losers out there- go play with yourself...its more worthwhile than fighting it out here!!
NALSAR speakers should have performed *really* good for a team not to go to knock-outs even after having such high memo marks.
Conclusion- This shows teachers draft Memos in NALSAR and not in JGLS.
Conclusion: You are from JGLS. :P
If our professors were drafting our memos, we would have been winning Best Memo everywhere. Trust me, our professors are that brilliant.
However, we are a new University. We do not have seniors or anybody to tell us how to write a memo. So, just like any other new University, we are struggling with writing memos. Only the students who have been to a couple of moots actually know how to write a fairly good memo. Also, we are struggling with the dynamics and structure of our society, which is why we have not been able to capitalize on mooting events- even in case of participation. NLUD on the other hand has sound organization which has helped them do so well in such a short span of time.
Another major concern in Jindal is lack of faculty support. Contrary to popular perception, our professors think that mooting is a waste of time. They want us to focus on research and academics. Therefore, they don't like to give us leave from classes even a day before the moot or memo submission. Nor do they postpone assignments. In fact, they grumble about us not doing our readings once in a while and keep telling us to not prioritize mooting. We just have three-four faculty members who want us to moot and support us logistically. Otherwise, if a teacher tells the VC not to send us for a moot- we are not sent for it.
Also, please refrain from such worthless digs- we gave LSAT, which has far superior logic than CLAT- which needs you to simply mug stuff up
Its actually much more easy in jessup world finals to go to knock outs if you have high memo marks.
A team is declared winner in match not based on memo marks(33%) + orals(66%) but based on round points.
considering NALSAR has very high memo marks they will be declared as winners of the whole round even if "1 judge" out of 3 judge panel marks them more in orals. so NALSAR speakers should have performed *really* *really* good not to make it to knock outs.
That is why they dint figure out in top oralist list. Not even in the list of "top 200 speakers" as some one pointed out earlier.
CONCLUSION- ROFL.
Not really. The way it works in the prelims is that your highest memo score (out of three judges) is compared with your opponent's highest memo score, your middle score with your opponent's middle score, and your lowest score with your opponent's lowest score. This is done for both Applicant and Respondent. Thus, having an overall high memo score does not necessarily guarantee qualification. You may have a very high Applicant and a very low Respondent memo score, which means you'll be in trouble in two rounds. You may also be marked extremely highly by one memo judge and mediocre by the other two, which again means that you will lose two rounds points.
But what about ILS, who have neither a good memo score, nor made the break?
I dont know about ILS memo scores because they are not posted on the results page. seeing their good oralist rankings and decent position(40) its quite obvious that their memos were the reason they dint break even though they had high oral scores.
Nothing can be generalized because everything is subjective.
Especially in international rounds where the number of teams are high (120 in jessup, 250 in vienna)it is highly improbable and subjective.
120 teams in jessup have 240 memorials and each side is judged by 3 judges that make it 720(actual number is around 500 because 1 person may correct 2 memos) . Its just like a Delhi university paper correction.
According to some judge best memo may be marked 80 and some other may give 90.
You can cross check. go back to past law school articles and blogs and see how many comments come from NLUD or NUJS students.
"I CAN NOT EVEN FIND ONE COMMENT FROM NEITHER NLUD NOR NUJS STUDENTS."
What is that called maturity? NO
i think "talent + Maturity"
TAKE THAT
SAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIII.!
http://www.icc-trialcompetition.org/cms/
Oh god. Just let it go, child.
Has it ever occurred to you that if the faculty at Jindal were writing memos they should be winning the prize for best memo at every moot in which they enter. It is extremely presumptious to assume that law students are more learned than the faculty at Jindal - which most independent observers believe to be among the best (if not the best) in the country.
A little grace would be in order.
I have many school friends at JGLS..and i really wish them goodluck.... but as of now...i'v sent them many projects...and research papers ....because they seek my help...all the time...writing research papers and making projects mean hardwork....which is something that money cant buy...anywaz...[...] ... even my father could afford Jindal but he preferred to send me to a place where knowledge can't be bought and hard work and passion for law is given the utmost importance...
And you really think that NLU Delhi was successful at mooting because of the students? The college is 100% behind them, they fund all moots, give them time to prepare and reduce academic burden, and also offer plenty of faculty help.
People like you make it obvious that the national law schools are full of mediocrity too. God save the legal profession!