MPL 2, Moot 2: HNLU Raipur bests NLU Delhi youngsters to win Henry Dunant

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[[HNLU Raipur]] emerged victorious in the Tenth [[Henry Dunant Memorial Moot Court Competition]], which concluded in New Delhi late yesterday (12 September). Young law school [[NLU Delhi]] finished as the runner-up.

The two semi-finalists were NLIU Bhopal and Nirma Institute of Law, Nirma University, Ahmedabad. NLIU Bhopal bagged the Best Memorandum Award whereas Venu Nanavati from Nirma Institute of Law was adjudged Best Speaker of the moot.

The moot was organised by the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) and the Indian Society of International Law (ISIL). The problem was based on International Humanitarian Law.

“Students came in with a lot of hard work. It was very difficult for the judges to give a clear mandate and it was a very close contest,” said Vinay Kumar Singh, Assistant Professor, ICRC Centre for International Humanitarian Law, ISIL.

He said that 55 teams participated in this year’s competition.

Add details on [[Legallypedia]] about the [[Henry Dunant Memorial Moot Court Competition]].

MPL Moots: Version 2.02

We have made several changes to the [[MPL2 competitions|moot court competitions]] and scoring criteria for [[MPL 2|MPL Season 2]].

This new list of Moots contains considerable changes in the Tier System and the Scoring Criteria. A new fifth tier has been included to balance the moots in the other tiers. Also, some exceptional International Mooting Competitions (like ELSA WTO Moot, Frankfurt Arbitration, etc) see abysmal Indian participation, which is unfair to other participants in the MPL. Therefore, instead of excluding them from the MPL, we have demoted them to lower tiers to ensure fairness.

The list will be frozen soon depending on your comments.

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Provisional [[MPL2 competitions|list of moots]] to be included in [[MPL 2]]:

As you can see it’s bigger and hopefully even better than last year.

Tier 1 – Global Championships

These include the world finals most prestigious moot court competitions in the world and other world contests involving rigorous competition and wide participation- [[Manfred_Lachs_Space_Moot_Court_Competition#World_Finals|Manfred Lachs Space Moot, World Finals]]

  • [[Philip C. Jessup International Law Moot|Philip C. Jessup, Washington]]
  • [[Willem C. Vis (East) International Commercial Arbitration Moot, Hong Kong|Willem C. Vis (East), Hong Kong]]
  • [[Willem C. Vis International Commercial Arbitration Moot, Vienna|Willem C. Vis, Vienna]]

Tier 2 – World Class

These are the widely recognised international mooting events where a substantial number of Indian teams participate. These moots enjoy worldwide reputation among law students.

  • [[International Criminal Court (ICC) Trial Competition The Hague|ICC Trial Moot, The Hague]]
  • [[Manfred_Lachs_Space_Moot_Court_Competition_Sydney_Rounds|Manfred Lachs Space Moot, Sydney rounds]]
  • [[Red Cross International Humanitarian Law Moot|Red Cross Moot]]
  • [[Stetson International Environmental Moot Court Competition|Stetson World Rounds]]

Tier 3 – Elite Class

These mooting events are the best of the elite national contests and some of them are the gateway to the Global Championships/World-class moots in the above tiers.

  • [[National Moot Court Competition, Bar Council of India Trust|Bar Council of India moot]]
  • [[DM Harish Memorial Government Law College International Moot Court Competition|DM Harish Moot, GLC]]
  • [[Henry Dunant Memorial Moot Court Competition|Henry Dunant Moot (India qualification rounds to Red Cross Moot)]]
  • [[Oxford International Media Law Moot Court Competition|Oxford Media Law Moot]]
  • [[Philip C. Jessup International Law Moot North India Rounds|Philip C. Jessup North India Rounds]]
  • [[Philip C. Jessup International Law Moot South India Rounds|Philip C. Jessup South India Rounds]]
  • [[Stetson International Environmental Moot Court Competition North India Rounds|Stetson North India Rounds]]
  • [[Stetson International Environmental Moot Court Competition South India Rounds|Stetson South India Rounds]]

Tier 4 – National Challengers

Most of the contests in this Tier see participation from the top Indian Law Schools. A large number of them have also carved a niche for themselves in the national mooting scene. It also includes the [[ELSA Moot Court Competition on WTO Law]], which is prestigious but only three Indian teams participated in last year’s Asian selection rounds.

  • [[Commonwealth Moot Court Competition|Commonwealth Moot]]
  • [[ELSA Moot Court Competition on WTO Law|ELSA WTO Moot]]
  • [[GNLU International Moot Court Competition|GNLU International Moot]]
  • [[ISRO National Funding Round to Manfred Lachs Space Moot|ISRO Manfred Lachs funding rounds]]
  • [[KK Luthra Memorial Moot Court Competition, CLC New Delhi|KK Luthra Criminal Law Moot, Delhi]]
  • [[KLA Moot Court Competition, Kerala|KLA Moot, Kerala]]
  • [[MM Singhvi Memorial Bar Council of India International Law Moot Court Competition, NLU Jodhpur|MM Singhvi moot, NLU Jodhpur]]
  • [[Nani Palkhiwala Memorial National Tax Moot Court, GLC Mumbai|Nani Palkhiwala Tax Moot, GLC]]
  • [[NLSIU International Arbitration Moot Court|NLS International Arbitration]]
  • [[NUJS Herbert Smith National Corporate Law Moot Court Competition|NUJS Herbert Smith Corporate Moot]]
  • [[Oxford International Media Law Moot Court Competition|Oxford Media Law Moot]] '''National Qualifiers'''
  • [[Surana & Surana National Corporate Law Moot|Surana Corporate Moot]]
  • [[Surana & Surana International Technology Law Moot|Surana International Technology Moot]]

Tier 5 - Best of the Rest

A varied tier that includes good domestic competitions that a range of Indian law schools take part, as well as prestigious international competitions that see only little Indian law school participation.

Tier 5: Domestic

  • [[Amity Moot Court Competition]]
  • [[GH Raisoni Law School Moot Court Competition|GH Raisoni Moot]]
  • [[Justice Hidayatullah Memorial National Moot Court Competition|Justice Hidayatullah Memorial Moot]]
  • [[NFCG-Nalsar Moot Court Competition on Corporate Governance|NFCG-Nalsar Moot on Corporate Governance]]
  • [[Nalsar Justice Bodh Raj Sawhney Moot Court Competition|Nalsar BR Sawhney Moot]]
  • [[NLU Antitrust Moot Court Competition, NLU Jodhpur|NLU Antitrust Moot]]
  • [[All India Corporate Law Moot Court Competition, NLU Delhi|NLU Delhi All India Corporate Moot]]
  • [[Pro Bono Enviro National Moot Court Competition, SOEL Chennai|Pro Bono Enviro Moot SOEL Chennai]]
  • [[Rizvi Moot Court Competition|Rizvi Moot]]
  • [[SP Sathe Moot Court Competition, ILS Pune|SP Sathe Moot, ILS Pune]]
  • [[Surana & Surana International Minority Rights Moot]]
  • [[Surana & Surana National Trial Advocacy Moot#North India round|Surana Trial Advocacy Moot, North India round]]
  • [[Surana & Surana National Trial Advocacy#South India round|Surana Trial Advocacy Moot, South India round]]
  • [[ULC Bangalore All India Moot Court Competition|ULC Bangalore Moot]]

Tier 5: International

These moots are internationally prestigious but only currently see limited participation, and are therefore counted on par with Tier 5 moots. This recognises that winning such a competition is noteworthy but that it would not be fair to disadvantage colleges that could not afford to attend these. For example, only three Indian teams participated in ELSA Asian rounds last year, ICC Mediation Paris saw only 4 Indian teams, Frankfurt International Arbitration only three Indian teams, Maritime International Arbitration in Sydney only two Indian teams, and Oxford IPR saw only two to three Indian teams last year.

  • [[ELSA Moot Court Competition on WTO Law, Asian rounds|ELSA WTO Asian rounds]]
  • [[ICC International Commercial Mediation Moot Court Competition, Paris|ICC Moot, Paris]]
  • [[International Infrastructure and Construction Law Arbitration Moot (IICLAM)|IICLAM Competition]]
  • [[Frankfurt International Arbitration Moot Court Competition|Frankfurt International Arbitration Moot]]
  • [[Maritime International Arbitration Moot Court Competition, Sydney|Maritime International Arbitration Moot, Sydney]]
  • [[Oxford International IPR Moot Court Competition|Oxford IPR Moot]]

Scoring criteria

Category/TiersTier 1 - Global ChampionshipsTier 2 - World ClassTier 3 - Elite ClassTier 4 - National ChallengersTier 5 - Best of the Rest (Int’l & Domestic)
Best team40 points30 points20 points15 points10 points
Runners-up35 points25 points15 points10 points7 points
Best Orator / Memorial / Researcher30 points each20 points each10 points each7 points each5 points each
Semi finalists25 points15 points10 points7 points5 points
Quarter Finalists20 points (except Lachs)N/AN/AN/AN/A
Octa Finalists15 points (except Lachs)N/AN/AN/AN/A
Honourable Mention/Other equivalent awards10 points5 pointsN/AN/AInt’l Moots only: 3 points
Stats
Number of competitions4481320
Total possible points for winners160120160195200
Total points for runners-up140100120130140

Look through the list and decide whether you agree with the rankings.

  1. Do you agree with the scoring criteria? Should more points be given for a tier, or less points?
  2. Think of some catchy names to call each tier and let us know!
  3. Get mooting!

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Comments

Anonymous guest 13 Sept 2010, 08:50
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I think that the Nani Palkhivala Moot is at par with the BCI Moot for taxation and it should be moved to the elite category.
Anonymous guest 13 Sept 2010, 14:25
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WoW !Congratulations to HNLU! Well done. Here's wishing them all the best for the next rounds of the moot. Do well! :-)
Anonymous guest 13 Sept 2010, 15:31
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Congratulations HNLU! Way to start this year. A well deserved victory for Guneet and team!
Anonymous guest 13 Sept 2010, 16:04
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congratulations to HNLU! well done!
sagnik 13 Sept 2010, 17:36
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congratulations HNLU and NLUD..a great beginning to the year..wish you all the best for the future
thunderbolt 13 Sept 2010, 18:09
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congrats guneet anubhuti and garima mitra . i think its the beginning to establish. hnlu as premier institute of law in India..and hnlu has the capabilty to outshine any other national law school..
Anonymous guest 13 Sept 2010, 18:43
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wheres nliu justice tankha moot?
kianganz 13 Sept 2010, 18:49
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Hi - we removed Tankha in this version because we understand that only 9 teams participated last year, of which many were local Madhya Pradesh teams?

Anyone who has any thoughts, please do share.
Anonymous guest 13 Sept 2010, 18:58
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congratulations to the marvelous HNLU team of guneet, garima and anubuthi.. they truly deserved it... way to go...
Anonymous guest 13 Sept 2010, 20:03
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congrats hnlu team to bring laurels to the university which has always been underestimated...nw the legal fraternity will surely hve an idea dat hnlu is full of talent congo..
Anonymous guest 13 Sept 2010, 20:03
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Firstly, congrats HNLU and NLU, Delhi. Great to see younger law schools doing well. It all bodes well for the future.

Not too sure if Vis (East) should be at par with Vis (Vienna), Jessup etc. In many cases East is used as a practice beofre the real thing. But guess you are also counting in the participation.
Anonymous guest 13 Sept 2010, 20:17
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I do not want to take away credit from the winners but HNLU will continue to be the last ranked NLU despite this victory. Moot courts should never be used to judge the quality of an insitution.
kianganz 13 Sept 2010, 20:32
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If you want to discuss whether Moot courts should or not be used to judge the quality of an institution, by all means.

But let's not again start a debate of "my law school is better than yours".
Anonymous guest 13 Sept 2010, 20:49
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I feel the Amity Moot should be moved from tier 5 to tier 4 considering that it is in its 10th year, whereas mooots like NUJS Herbet smith and NLS Arbitration began only 2-3 years back and both are in tier 4. The Amity Moot has more particpation than booth these moots and its finals have for the past five years always been judged by sitting SC judges. Clearly just because both the other moots are sponsored by international firms shouldnt automatically entitle them to tier 4.

-Best
Anonymous guest 13 Sept 2010, 21:16
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... you can also add the Gnlu Intl. Moot also to the list of moots which started just a few years back but even then are in tier 4.
Anonymous guest 13 Sept 2010, 21:38
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Congratulations NLU Delhi...ur colg is doing amazing in moots despite the facts u hav just 3 batches...way 2 go..:-)
Anonymous guest 13 Sept 2010, 22:31
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I dont see any reason why Stetson world and the Red cross should be left out of tier 1, whereas william c vis (both HK and vienna) should be there.

In my opinion the qualitative distinction between tier 1 and tier 2 should not only be brand value but a reviewable standard like whether a moot has a natioanl qualifing rounds as a condition for eligibility before participation in the international rounds. Otherwise it is difficult to distinguish between a moots in tier 1 and tier 2, and would really depend on individual taste and preference.

I suggest T1 should include: Jessup World, Stetson World, Red Cross, Manfred world and any other international moot which has national qualifing rounds & T2 should include all other intl. moots which do not have qualifing rounds

-Best
Anonymous guest 13 Sept 2010, 22:34
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in agreement with no. 14. amity moot court competition is a prestigious moot and winning it is not the easiest task at hand. to add to what has already been said by #14, the semi-finals are always judged by sitting Delhi high court judges. it is also one of the rare few moots in the country whose problem is based on IPR.
Anonymous guest 13 Sept 2010, 22:49
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even oxford media law moot has a qualifying round this year!! does that make it a moot worth tier 1???
Anonymous guest 13 Sept 2010, 23:20
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Also i am not really sure of the distinction b/w DM harish (10 years)(tier 3) and KLA [more than 20 years, i think ](tier 4) except of international participation which to a great extent depends on subject matter of moot problem (int. law). Though kla has always had national laws as the subject matter its not even possible for them to invite international teams but having participated in both and belonging to niether of the colleges i wont rate KLA below DM harish.

@19.good point. didnt think of that, but since that one is any ways niether in T1 or T2 i guess that question wont arise.
Anonymous guest 14 Sept 2010, 00:28
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Well about NLIU Tankha there was low participation because most of the colleges had their examinations during that period or around that period so there was less participation. That did not happen earlier. Well even NUJS Herbert Smith have just 12 teams and NLIU Tankha had i guess just 1 or 2 teams from MP. But looking at the previous years the participation was much higher because it was held in October or so. So i guess NLIU Tankha should be given a place.
Anonymous guest 14 Sept 2010, 00:43
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CONGRATULATIONS HNLU and the Team!!! a well deserved victory...grt going guys n hope to see HNLU at the top of MPL2 chart!!! cheers!
Anonymous guest 14 Sept 2010, 02:17
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Congrats HNLU. Its nice to see the mooting season starting with the names which were not in top list last year.. All the best to NLU Delhi for upcoming moots. NLU delhi is claming itself in top 5 law schools. Lets see whether by the end, they will be in top 5 of mpl2.
Regarding Last comment, how can Nani Palkhiwala be equivalent to BCI. Making 8 memorandum of pleadings and 2 in Nani Palkhiwala. Palkhiwala is just specialized not like BCI in any ways....
Anonymous guest 14 Sept 2010, 03:55
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The participation in Tankha was low only in the last year, mainly because of its timing (other colleges had exams etc.). The year before there was participation from around 32 colleges. The later rounds were judged by sitting judges of Supreme Court and M.P.High Court. I don't think it is fair to remove Tankha because of low participation in one year. Will BCI be taken off the list if it has a bad year in terms of participation? I don't think so. Tankha is a moot held by one of India's top 5 National Law Schools and is prestigious even for that reason alone. I hope to soon see Tankha back on the MPL listings.
Anonymous guest 14 Sept 2010, 04:22
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I think there are too many tiers in the entire format. and in each tier there is at least one moot which I feel should be one place up or below that tier. The reason for that i think is because there is no specific criteria which determines whether a moot should be really in that tier or say a place above or below it, in the sense it is easy to distinguisg T1 from T3 moot or T2 from T5 moots but the demarcation between tiers next to each other like T1 and T2 moots & T4 and T5 moots is really blurred

I think the problem might be easy to resolve if we reduce the number of tiers so that one is easily able to distinguish the moots that should be in one and not the other.
Anonymous guest 14 Sept 2010, 04:44
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Mr. Kian Ganz why haven`t moots like Foreign Direct Investment Moot, California and John Marshall Moot Court Competition which takes place in Chicago not been inducted in World Class moots as participation in the above mentioned moots is always within the range of 20-30 teams.
Anonymous guest 14 Sept 2010, 05:25
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I do not think NLS Arbitration does not deserve Tier 4 status. Having been a participant at the moot, the quality of judging, etc. was disappointing. Apart from the fact that it is just 2 years old, the moot was conducted at an odd time (mid May when most law schools are off). The invite for the moot was sent just 2 weeks before the dates of the competition, and received dismal participation last year.
Anonymous guest 14 Sept 2010, 05:29
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IICLAM deserves to be in tier 4 atleast, the reason that has been given to include IICLAM in tier 5 (international moots) is that very few Indian teams participate in it and that most Indian teams cannot afford to participate in this moot because of high registration fees, travel expenses, etc. but IICLAM was held in Delhi last year and this year too it is supposed to be held in Delhi. It saw participation from a number of teams and the winner last year was Amity, so it justifies that Indian teams have a fair chance of doing well in this moot. Add to that the fact that it is organized by the Singapore Arbitration Centre and the National University of Singapore which awards an LLM scholarship to the best orator. These factors lend reputation to the moot and it atleast deserves to be in the same tier as a moot like Surana Tech moot if not in a higher tier.
Anonymous guest 14 Sept 2010, 05:54
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@12 ; so by what do u judge a nlu ..whn u say in academics i think hnlu stuudents secure equivalent cgpa to that of other national law schol/in moot courts hnlu has many awards in regards to best memorial..in regard to internships dey equally compete wid other law schools...infrastructure wise its the best law school..the only thing is lacking is awareness among law firms..because people like you create so much hype about your own law school which hnlu does not...dey are slow and steady stop blamin other national law schools and focus on urs
Anonymous guest 14 Sept 2010, 06:35
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With respect to Tankha.... It is not true that many M.P teams took part... there was one law school from Indore... but apart from that the rest were outstation... I remember RGNUL (Patiala) , NALSAR (Hyderabad), CNLU (Patna), School of Excellence (Chennai) etc. were there at the moot..
Anonymous guest 14 Sept 2010, 06:48
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congrats hnlu! way to go...
Simba 14 Sept 2010, 19:32
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I feel Stetson world rounds and Red cross moot should be shifted to Tier 1.Not only do these two moots see participation from Teams across the world but they have an India qualifying round as well.
Anonymous guest 15 Sept 2010, 00:25
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Either that, or please shift HK to tier 2. What exactly is the distinction between tier 1 and tier 2 we're trying to make?

If we're looking at brand value, HK should be in tier 2.
If we're looking at how hard it is to win the moot, HK should be in tier 2. This year onwards, Vis HK will have a total cap of 80 teams while Vienna will still have 400-500 teams. Are we still thinking of putting them in the same tier?

Or, you could just remove the distinction and put tier 1 and 2 moots in one tier. But that happens at the risk of people raising a hue and cry about it.
sanjay.khan.nagra 15 Sept 2010, 05:31
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Thanks for valuable inputs! We appreciate your comments and feedback!

We are thinking about including Tankha, provided participation this year significantly higher than last year.

The reason behind adding Vis, HK to tier 1 was that it is much more competitive than other moots in tier 2. To add to that, majority of good teams that go for Vienna do turn up for HK too, maintaining the high standards of the competition. From the Indian teams' perspective, winning anything in HK is more difficult than winning anything at tier 2 moots.

Stetson and Red Cross have been included in tier 2 because the other tier 1 moots like Jessup, Vis and Lachs see wider International participation.

We shall look into other suggestions related to DM Harish, KLA Moot, IICLAM, Amity, NLS Arbitration, FDI California and John Marshall.

Do feel free to put in your suggestions in this thread or you can mail us at mooting [at] legallyindia.com

Thanks!

Sanjay/Prashanth
Anonymous guest 15 Sept 2010, 05:50
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@34: what abt blacklisting surana moots?
bharataseri 15 Sept 2010, 16:29
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change is the law nature, so i also want to change our society.
swativerma 16 Sept 2010, 02:51
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HNLU glz were rocking ...their points were marvelous they were so specific for their concept judges had no question to ask when they were arguing.....congratulation ones again ...:-)
prakhar 16 Sept 2010, 05:40
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WHY MANDREDS IS NOT IN TIER 3 ELITE CLUB ??????? ANY VALID REASONS
prakhar 16 Sept 2010, 05:45
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OH Dunant Judging was pathetic, a judge gave 99/100 to mooters in earlier rounds on the other hand other judges were givin max of 80 . mooters in final rounds were stammering.. it was all luck
Anonymous guest 16 Sept 2010, 08:02
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i guess nliu tankha should be included or eliminated right now rather than later. or else we'll suddenly realise 10 teams participate, NUJS win and its all of a sudden in some tier. I guess irrespective of participation it should either be included now or not at all. Or number of teams should be specified now. Even Herbert Smith have just 12 teams participating but NLIU tankha had a significant number of teams earlier and last year it was organised during exams of almost all universities. Also the judging is by sitting judges of the High Court and SC not to forget the chief justice of the MP High court too. Initial rounds judged by all experienced mooters and alumni of NLIU just like every other NLU.
Anonymous guest 16 Sept 2010, 22:13
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@39:
Totally second that..
Anonymous guest 16 Sept 2010, 22:31
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ELSA is the most prestigious moot on trade law and deserves to be in one of the top tiers. While participation from India is certainly an important factor to judge tiers, it cannot be the sole deciding factor. The list of moots have to be balanced from all sides and factors including the subject it is on, prestige, along with participation. I believe last year's placement of Elsa was just about right: more prestigious than Vis Hong Kong (being the best moot on trade law whereas HK will always remain 2nd to Vienna) with the limited participation ultimately balancing it out and bringing it at the same level.
The present tier placement is simply ridiculous: it incentivises colleges to not participate in elsa at all.
Anonymous guest 17 Sept 2010, 00:54
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Hey,

I guess rankings are alright with respect to ELSA. Mooting Premier League is a platform where the performance of 'Indian' law schools is analyzed.
I know for a fact that last year, only NUJS Kolkata, NLU Jodhpur and GNLU Gandhinagar participated in the ELSA Asian Qualifiers. The main reason why many Indian teams don't participate is because the Moot is extremely costly. People spend up to 3 lakhs for this Moot. If only three teams participate in a Moot, what is the point of putting it in a higher tier.
I clearly remember that NUJS came high up the rank list last season only because of this Moot. This was pretty unfair, considering their prominent opponents NLS Bangalore and Nalsar did not participate in Elsa at all.
Indian participation has to be the top factor while judging tiers. Otherwise, MPL will have no meaning at all.
In fact, it is good that ELSA is placed in Tier 4/5 right now. Instead of chucking it out of the MPL, they have kept it in the lower tiers so that people know about the Moot and any Indian achievement in the Moot can thus be acknowledged.

Cheers,
Fake MPL Player
Anonymous guest 17 Sept 2010, 06:41
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Are you seriously telling me Manfred Lachs is on par with Jessup and Vienna? 40 teams worldwide as opposed to 250 and 500?

You're crazy.
prakhar 17 Sept 2010, 15:14
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that is bcos "space law" is not everyone's piece of cake.. Its organised by ISRO in India. Its highly prestigious . Its should be in national elite tier 3..
swativerma 17 Sept 2010, 18:24
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@39...i agree tht judges were sumewht prejudiced but HNLU was the best among all teams...
Anonymous guest 19 Sept 2010, 01:42
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henry dunant is probably one of th most impartial of th moots especially if u compare it to all the surana moots and the national qualifying rounds of stetsons and jessups which are also organised by surana. the judging in semi finals was exceptional. I saw HNLU in finals. their orals were exceptionally good. they knew what they were talking about, what they were rebutting.
Anonymous guest 20 Sept 2010, 22:00
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hnlu rocks
Anonymous guest 22 Sept 2010, 18:13
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Welldone HNLU and welldone Guneet,Anubhuti and Garima for a grand success. u hav just rocked. keep it up. Wish u allthe best for next round. U will definitely get it.
Anonymous guest 23 Sept 2010, 01:54
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I really don't feel the need to award semi-finalists with points. And even if they are awarded with any points at all, i think there should necessarily be a marked difference between their points and that awarded to the runners up. Come on, the 3 points and 2 points difference in the tier 4 and 5 categories is way too depressing a difference.
Anonymous guest 23 Sept 2010, 02:04
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i feel there is a need for a marked difference in the points awarded to semi-finalists and the runners up, 3 points and 2 points in the tier 4 and tier 5 categories respectively is highly depressing. Actually, is there any need at all to award semi-finalists with points?
Anonymous guest 23 Sept 2010, 02:12
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I feel there should be points for semifinalists man. Common. Last four who stand out in a competition need to be identified and acknowledged. Its like being a semifinalist in a cricket tournament like IPL.

But, i agree with you that there should be a marked difference between the Runners up and semifinalist. Currently, the points for Semifinalists in Tier 4 and 5 are 7 and 5 points respectively. That should change to 5 and 3 respectively. Then, it will make more sense.
Anonymous guest 24 Sept 2010, 21:57
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There should be points for semi finalists. I think the current system is perfect. Any less than 5 and 7 points will not make a real difference to the scores. Considering it is possible to gain as much as 40 points for a single win, the points given for other achievements must also be in proportion. It is better not to award points than award 2 or 3 points. Bottom line, the existing system is fine.