Download combined CLAT 1st seat allotment • SC declines to interfere • CLAT confirms: 4,839 had filed objections

As the Supreme Court is about to begin hearing the challenge by petitioners in the Common Law Admission Test (CLAT) shortly, the CLAT Consortium has just uploaded the first provisional seat allotments, following its counselling process.

Note: Latest updates, including the latest CLAT press release, are set out below.

The first lists for each university are available here, or, rather than clicking to download each PDF:

We will be updating this post here live when there are updates.

11:56: Senior Gopal Sankaranarayanan for the petitioners: says 40,000 objections have been received, 21,000 were on questions and answers. The remainder of complaints and what exactly they concerned is unknown.

He is saying that cut-offs as low as -3 points, had “never happened before” in any exam in India.

These are “fatal software defects”, he said.

11:58: Sankaranarayanan now is pointing out the lowest scores of candidates invited to counselling, with scores such as -4.

12:00: Returning to an earlier point, he is continuing pointing out several questions that had obviously wrong answers. Earlier he had claimed that there were 20 errors in the answer key, which had not been addressed.

12:02: Counsel for CLAT, senior advocate PS Narasimha: Much of it is on the basis of misconception they have.

The expert committee has answered everything in detail, he says.

Regarding the very low scores who had been called to counselling, are purely scheduled tribe and scheduled caste candidates, who would not have made it to an actual university.

“We called everyone, he says.”

There was no criteria for minimum marks to get called for counselling, confirms the CLAT’s lawyer.

12:05: Counsel for CLAT is setting out several examples of candidates whose complaints made on social media, were not corroborated and “fraudulent” and “manipulated” documents had been shared, which did not check out.

12:07: As far as software glitches are concerned, this is an extraordinary situation. The CLAT had submitted an affidavit that the complaints are not correct.

Now raising the point regarding objections in the CLAT were free, unlike in other exams.

12:10: Narasimha says: You can see the background in which it happened (in oblique reference to the National Law Aptitude Test (NLAT)), there can not be any doubt about this one.

12:11: Somebody had filed a document before you by forging the marks they have got. His affidavit is not file. At page 3, the affidavit says. Somebody must take responsibility. The advocate for petition has received a lot of responses.

For example, has scored 150 marks, according to the original list, has scored only 1 mark.

The advocate has filed it on what basis?

12:13: Sankaranarayanan for petitioners: These people are completely incompetent in this exam and should be taken over by NTA.

He objects to the personal attacks made by Narasimha against the petitioner.

There are 20,000 objections [technical]. Their only answer is that the same organisation runs JEE or AIIMS. We don’t have a problem with JEE or AIIMS.

And they don’t reply to it.

9 or 10 other questions that are wrong have not addressed.

12:16: Sankaranarayanan says: They shouldn’t make it a fait accompli by finishing admissions.

12:16: The court: We are not inclined to pass any interim order, says the court.

Narasimha reminds the court that the court had ordered in the NLAT case that admissions should conclude by mid-October.

Sankaranarayanan says that their Lordships couldn’t have foreseen that the CLAT would be carried out so badly.

12:20: The judges noted that aggrieved candidates should send their grievances to the CLAT committee within two days, which should decide immediately thereafter.

Hearing over.

19:08: The order is out (click here for PDF) and concludes that only the petitioners can submit their grievances:

In the facts of the present case, we are of the view that ends of justice be served in giving liberty to the petitioners to submit a representation to the Grievance Redressal Committee with regard to their grievance within three days from today. We order accordingly. We have no doubt that the petitioners’ representation be considered by the Committee at an early date.

Press release from CLAT post hearing

Update 18:48: The CLAT has made the following press release with more details about the process.

It has also confirmed, for the first time, that “4839 candidates had filed objections”, adding that “thus huge majority (54,604 candidates) did not file any objection”.

The CLAT has not confirmed whether those 4,839 candidates had filed objections regarding mistakes in the answer key or whether those were exclusively objections over potential technical issues.

The process of Admission to participating National Law Universities of Consortium of National Law Universities has begun today. We had invited 14,992 for UG and 4,081 for PG candidates for the Counselling. Out of 14,992 candidates called for counselling, only 8,227 for UG and 2,166 for PG paid the counselling fee and are now eligible for admission in order of merit. Many candidates who did not have the realistic chance to get into any National Law University or the University of their choice did not pay the counselling fee. Those who do not get seat will get full refund of their counselling fee.

The Consortium had called five times candidates of total seats available for UG (2,596 seats) and PG (783 seats) for counselling. To ensure timely admission of the candidates who have appeared for CLAT – 2020, all the candidates in the Reserved Categories were called for counselling and that is why some candidates even with negative marks were also invited. These candidates are not likely to get any seat. In any case those who have paid the counselling fee alone can be given seats in order of merit and therefore candidates with negative marks are unlikely to get seats. CLAT-2020 does not have any minimum marks and therefore calling of these candidates cannot be faulted. By 5.30 p.m., as many as 2,786 candidates have been admitted to various National Law Universities out of the 1st allotment list released by the Consortium today.

Supreme Court today heard the petition against the CLAT-2020. We feel fully satisfied with the order of the Hon’ble Supreme Court as the Court neither ordered retest of CLAT-2020 nor given any stay to the admission process. Accepting Consortium’s argument, the Court has given petitioners liberty to file any complaint, if any, before the Grievance Committee which is headed by the Hon’ble Justice S. Rajendra Babu, Former Chief Justice of India. Consortium had already notified the Grievance Committee on its website.

CLAT-2020 was a student friendly entrance test. We had given sample papers and conducted 5 Mock Tests on the same platform with same instructions. Total words in CLAT-2020 were far less than the sample papers. Our Service Provider has conducted test of 1.4 crore candidates in 2020. All the leading tests like JEE, NEET, GATE(IIT’s), AIIMS, Public Service Commission Recruitment Examinations and Banking Exams were conducted by the same service provider. Even NTA used his services. Thus, even if NTA had conducted CLAT, in all likelihood same service provider with same software and platform would have conducted the test.

We had invited objections to the Questions, Key and technical issues to the CLAT-2020. All objections were referred to a 13-member Expert Committee headed by a Retired Judge of the High Court. Accepting many objections, three questions were dropped and Key was modified in respect of four questions. In all only 4839 candidates had filed objections and thus huge majority (54,604 candidates) did not file any objection.

Diversity in National Law Universities has been an issue but this year large number of candidates from rural areas and underprivileged backgrounds have also been selected. In fact out of 200 ST candidates coached by the ST Welfare Department, Government of Madhya Pradesh, as many as 104 were selected for the counselling. Government of Madhya Pradesh has agreed to fully fund the education of these candidates. Several candidates from small towns also got selected. Strangely on the one hand petitioner’s in the Supreme Court favoured diversity and on the other opposed calling of underprivileged candidates with low scores for the counselling.

We found no discrepancy in any response sheet between the responses made by the candidates and those reflected in the response sheets. The audit trail in all cases examined by us matched with the response sheet.

(FAIZAN MUSTAFA)

Comments

Guest 9 Oct 2020, 07:02
+7 -6
How did GShanks arrive at this 40000 number? Based on media reports? How is that a verifiable fact? Did he ask the court to direct the consortium to divulge exactly how many complaints have been received from verifiable sources and the categories of complaints (technical, question error etc.)? As for the 150 to 1 claim, surely that can be easily cross checked by producing the petitioner's audit report? Where is the complication here exactly? It's like everyone is throwing facts and figures into the air from both sides. Surreal.
Observer 9 Oct 2020, 07:21
+5 -4
poor arguments by the learned man .Questions are right or wrong not decided by students. Yes they can put their version to consortium, which they have availed and commitee already checked and decided. 40000 is media creation.
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 07:15
+16 -1
The aggrieved candidates have already sent their grievances to the CLAT Committee, who have already taken their decisions. What an useless observation by the court! If the parties were satisfied with that, why would they have come before the court?
Guest78 9 Oct 2020, 07:17
+13 -10
Strong arguments by Gopal! CLAT exam must be conducted by Government of India or NTA.

CLAT Committee and NLUs have goofed up year after year. 2018 CLAT administration by NUALS Kochi was even worse than 2020.

From leaking of question paper to copy paste of questions from different websites and coaching materials/competitive exam books, to wrong answers year on year, CLAT has never been conducted smoothly.

High time to wind up the CLAT committee and secretariat and exam be administered by Government or its agency.

NO MORE NLU VCs RUNNING CLAT EXAM.

They must focus on running their law school and teaching their students well.
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 07:45
+20 -2
The central government doesn't provide any assistance/recognition to the NLUs. Why on earth would NTA be compulsorily involved? And for those who are forgetting, NTA tried to organise AILET this year and failed miserably. Just because they hold some exams doesn't mean they have the expertise to hold all.
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 07:47
+5 -0
Those arguments don't do his client much good though. What would be done in future is a different thing than what is being prayed for at present.
NTA? 9 Oct 2020, 12:34
+1 -1
NTA ran AILET this year - which was a disaster, so maybe not. Anyway NTA also outsoruces to technical providers, so maybe just get a competent technical partner.
Nals soph 9 Oct 2020, 07:54
+7 -24
Test scores differences between castes imply that the test is casteist and we need to overhaul it like the SATs. In the meantime, we should increase reservations for STs and SCs to 50%! Dismantle systematic casteism.
Guest& 9 Oct 2020, 08:41
+9 -2
The fact that consortium's lawyer did not object to the figure of 40 k proves that it is the actual number. If Out of 59k 40 k are objecting there is definitely a problem.
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 10:51
+1 -1
He has said that 40000 is a make believe number. The consortium hasn't accepted that figure at any point of time.
Uf 9 Oct 2020, 13:45
+6 -2
Why on the earth the Consortium is not spelling out the number then? It speaks a volume about how much transparent the VCS are and how much do they care for the students. Leading newspapers stated it to be 40 k in the court it is stated to b 40k consortium ko Kya saanp sungh Gaya hai about the number of complaints received. Vaise to badi transparency ki baaten karate hai. Transparency demands that It should have disclosed the number on its own.
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 14:06
+3 -10
Transparency demands that the government do a lot of things. It still isn't. There's nothing under the law that requires the consortium to do so. What is surprising is that the petitioner's lawyer didn't insist on the court directing the consortium to do so. Probably because he knew that the number would contain a few zeroes less than the one he's taken from random media reports.
Uf 9 Oct 2020, 14:55
+2 -2
I guess the stuff u r snorting is having fungus, so pls throw it. Your arguments make me think that u were one of the paper setters not knowing the effect of zeros. U said few zeroes less- if one less it wud b 4 k and if 2 it wud come down to 400. If it were so the consortium would have shouted from the roof top. There is something called morality which consortium does not have hence hide behind the law as long as you can. If law asks u then where do u have the choice. Ur arguments r like the haathras accused who says it was a case of honour killing. Also pls specify in this context what is that govt should do to be transparent as u r saying.
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 16:11
+2 -1
Yeah, man. I don't know anything. GShanks sure knows his stuff, right? Unless you would say he knows nothing either, which trolls like you are fully capable of doing. Then why did he not ask the court to force the consortium to reveal the actual number, even when the other lawyer clearly said the GShanks is picking up that 40k number out of thin air? Because unlike you, he knows the real answer (or at least has a decent guess) and it doesn't help his case. As for the Consortium shouting it from the rooftops, it is quite obvious that you have got no appreciation for either law or strategy. The Consortium didn't do it because it does not need to, genius! The burden is not upon it, but on the petitioner. You seem to be sorely in need of some legal education, please get it from somewhere. It doesn't look like you are going to get it from an NLU in this year. And the less said about your completely misplaced analogies and the lack of taste that it reveals, the better.
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 09:04
+9 -2
Although the -4 candidate was probably a reservation candidate, that's still shocking. It means that If you submit blank paper and get 0, you may get into an NLU since 0>-4.
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 14:22
+0 -0
Not unless all the people ahead of you in your category refuse to take admission, which was what happened in this case too. Candidates thrice the number of available seats have been automatically called for counseling. As for getting in, I know for a fact that there have been certain candidates in previous CLATs availing specific reservation who got into mid-level NLUs despite having a single digit score.
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 09:07
+6 -13
With each passing day JGLS and LSAC stand out for their professionalism.
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 10:05
+3 -2
Yeah, so far out that people shouldn't even be considering those at all for lack of significance.
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 10:54
+9 -4
LSAT has had its share of problems in this year too. Nobody filed a petition against it because nobody could bother whether they might get into Jindal or not.
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 09:11
+8 -1
Please give us the following info:

1. Analysis of city-wise performance
2. CLAT ranks of AILET and LSAT toppers.
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 11:06
+3 -1
Please do the research yourself and give the results to Kian to post, I'm sure he'd happily oblige.
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 12:38
+0 -2
LI and B&B has a vested interested not to release #2 to protect JGLS and NLUD, but they ought to release #1 in due course.
Aryansh 9 Oct 2020, 09:50
+8 -5
What idiotic arguments given by the petitioners, obviously the students who weren’t able to score good marks are gonna cry about it now, students are making outlandish claims, I read a comment where a candidate said that he should have gotten 130 marks but got 36 or so, from where did he get that 130 figure? Courts should not be burdened with such stupid cases.
Clat Retest 9 Oct 2020, 12:03
+2 -6
I don't think that the toppers should have any problem with retest as if they can score good ones then what is the problem for them to score best again
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 12:55
+3 -0
By that logic, there should an innumerable number of tests conducted, and nobody should have any problem with it. And if you already know that the people who have topped the exam are going to top it again, then why bother having it? Just stick with the results and go ahead with the admission.
Jholawala 9 Oct 2020, 10:58
+5 -2
After raking in 280 million rupees(28cr) 70 k X 4k, the nlu VCS having collective exp of 690 years that is 23 nlus X 30 years average service of a VC if they cannot conduct an exam properly what can one say. It is enough to tell why nlus are in a bad shape. Every year they have messed up. They don't deserve the designation of vice chancellor .they should be called principal of a law college. Even iits n iims don't have VCS. Nowhere in the world you find a vice chancellor over 400 to 500 students.
Nalas 9 Oct 2020, 11:53
+1 -5
Why nls and nalsar not implementing 10% EWS. NLS is a class apart so they are untouchable. What about NALSAR ?
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 12:53
+6 -2
Untouchability is considered an offence in this country. Are you saying NLS people are being discriminated against? Poor them! There should be 'kadhi ninda' of such behaviour.
NALSAR isn't implementing it because its senior (emeritus) faculty and students are hypocrites who shout about the rights of the poor, but would balk when it comes to giving them such rights.
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 12:39
+1 -5
A retest will HAVE to be done. We are prepared to go all the way and will meet with politicians if necessary to make it an election issue.
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 14:01
+5 -0
Heh, election issue about an exam that less than 60000 people appeared for. Some people seem to be on a natural high round the clock given their opinions.
Lord Harvey 11 Oct 2020, 15:26
+1 -0
How far along are you with your ‘Meeting with politicians and making it an election issue’ ?
Guest 11 Oct 2020, 16:57
+0 -0
All the people whom he met became COVID positive and are doing ayurvedic treatment now.
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 12:43
+3 -5
For haters attacking Jindal, please see these testimonials confirming LSAT went smoothly. Or will you now say that these school students were bribed??

[quote]Srishti Varma of JSS Private School Dubai, UAE who took the test on 24 July at her home in UAE said - "LSAT-India 2020 held online this year was a very well conducted exam and personally I didn’t face any issues related to IT or connectivity. The test was not very difficult and at the same time not very easy, the time allotted for each section is 35 minutes and I was able to finish the sections 2-3 minutes before time. I wouldn’t say it was lengthy."

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[quote]Raghav Kapur, a class 12 pass-out of The Doon School, Dehradun shared his feedback - "In the face of an unprecedented pandemic, we, the students of the batch of 2020 have a bigger burden on our heads, college admissions. With the future being as uncertain as it is, all of us are scrambling to secure seats at our desired and colleges. It is truly reassuring to see universities like the OP Jindal Global University stepping up with Pearson VUE testing solutions to provide us with the opportunity to gain those coveted seats. LSAT-India this year was delivered via an online proctored exam and I say with great pleasure that the exam experience was flawless. From the timely support when the browser wouldn’t open up to the uninterrupted testing period, it felt as though I was giving the exam in a centre with no distractions or complications. The questions were well balanced, with a mix of easy and challenging ones and the ability to highlight, strikethrough and easily navigate between questions allowed for seamless test taking. Overall, I feel that the LSAT-India exam was held in a fair, honest and precise manner at a time when travelling to a centre and giving a human proctored test would be almost impossible for many of us."
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[quote]Archit Kohli of Ryan International School, Rohini, Delhi wrote the test for admission to BBALLB programme on 26 July. He said - "My exam went quite well. All the sections were of moderate level. I expect a good score." He also appreciated JGLS Admission Officers who helped him in the process.
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More testimonials here: https://www.theweek.in/wire-updates/business/2020/07/27/pwr7-jindal-global-law-school.html
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 14:03
+1 -1
By that logic, there are thousands of examinees who are very happy with even CLAT 2020. Are you honestly going to judge the success of an exam by individual testimonials? [...]
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 14:04
+4 -0
Nobody is attacking Jindal unless trolls are you are trying to bring it up in topics that have got nothing to do with Jindal. Even then, most people don't just care or bother about a little exam which 5000 people sat for. There are schools in this country arranging for bigger exams.
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 16:05
+4 -0
Aaya Aaya Jiggles troll, to sell what only a handful are buying. The exam was so good, still only 5k people sat for that. Does that give you the answer about how people view your college even after all that relentless PR?
Too transparent 10 Oct 2020, 06:29
+2 -0
I know you're baiting by citing DOSCOs having a smooth experience. Intention noble (to troll), but method terribly transparent.
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 14:09
+4 -2
Desperate tactics of coaching centre mafia.
UC 9 Oct 2020, 14:44
+0 -4
Kahan kahan copy-paste maarega bhai/maaregi behen?!
Guest 9 Oct 2020, 14:16
+0 -0
I wanna see Pallavi Saluja and Kian fight like Arnab and Rajdeep are doing now.
Kapish 9 Oct 2020, 16:41
+0 -4
NLS should have shown the historical failure of CLAT as a good exam to show that NLAT is a good idea.
Guest 10 Oct 2020, 17:19
+3 -0
NLS was a part of each of those CLAT failures.
Six Sigma 9 Oct 2020, 17:05
+3 -3
Saying that "only 4800" candidates filed objections, while "54000 did not have any problem" is an atrocious attempt to gloss over what seems to be a large scale issue.

That's like saying that "only 1 plane out of 15 crashed, the other 14 did not crash, so that means it's not an issue".
Guest78 10 Oct 2020, 05:56
+3 -0
I will repeat that CLAT exam need to be administered by professionals. Time and again our NLU people and Clat committees have displayed incompetence and unprofessionalism.

Actually law school Vice Chancellors and Faculties have no idea about entrance exam. They lack the expertise to create an entrance exam paper, even 10 original questions in logical reasoning or critical reasoning. That's why they copy paste from guidebooks, websites and other sources. CLAT exam needs complete overhaul. In last 13 administrations from 2008 to 2020, hardly 2 or 3 tests went smooth. All other exams were full of lapses in administration and question paper. Mass copying from a GK website and a reasoning book happened in past while preparing the CLAT paper.

World's most important Admission Tests like GMAT, SAT, ACT, LSAT, GRE, TOEFL, IELTS - all taken by professional organisations. Harvard or Yale professors don't waste their time in conducting entrance exams.

High time our law schools focus on teaching and research, and helping their students become better law students, and not on conducting entrance exams.

CLAT should go to NTA or UPSC (it conducts post-12 exams like NDA or SCRA flawlessly year after year).
Guest 10 Oct 2020, 17:21
+0 -0
Please don't drag us faculty members into CLAT, we have nothing to do with it.
Ouch 10 Oct 2020, 06:28
+1 -3
Look at the list, as predicted (or feared, depending on perspective), NALSAR and (more so) NUJS have been decimated by the increased seats at NLS. Earlier, NALSAR would have 40 people from the top 100 (give or take), now its barely 10. Proportionately, the bottom has fallen out as well.
Lol 10 Oct 2020, 08:51
+8 -0
No one cares. The nalsar 2020 batch topper was rank 135+ in clat. Got bumped up from NUJS after spending a week there. She's won multiple debates, the ICC moot India rounds, went to semis at the ICC intl. rounds, won the NLUJ antitrust moot, won Jessup India rounds. Trust me, clat ranks or being "in the top 100" determines nothing when you're actually in college, a difference of a few marks or the ability to mug up GK facts better doesn't mean jack.
Hmm 10 Oct 2020, 10:53
+0 -1
But has to get into the relevant college right? also, what's the point of an entrance test then? By this argument, the NLS Rhodes Scholar from a few years ago was 60th in the CLAT or something, got into Law School only because someone had opted for NALSAR.
Lol 10 Oct 2020, 12:48
+1 -0
Exactly, you can have Rhodes Scholars from anywhere. Someone in GNLU got it in the past few years. So no one really cares if NLS got 40 more people. There are very competent students even outside the "top 100", NLS taking some more won't "devastate" nalsar and nujs
Guest 10 Oct 2020, 17:22
+0 -0
If you are 'ouch', then it seems you have no clue about your argument.
CLAT List 10 Oct 2020, 07:47
+2 -2
6 students seem to have chosen NALSAR over NLS. Very strange!! I doubt it's ever happened in the past... Is this the Sudhir effect?? I doubt they made the correct choice though. NLS definitely has muchhhh better Faculty. What does NALSAR even have. Plus all the academic rigor is only at NLS now. Kudos to Sudhir but he seems to have scared some students and parent. Unfortunate...
Nothing new 10 Oct 2020, 08:54
+2 -0
Always there are 5-6 that pick a non-NLS tier 1, for a variety of reasons - location, fear (of tougher standards), or knowing a few seniors from NALSAR, NUJS or NLUD.
Nls Ka baap 10 Oct 2020, 08:57
+5 -4
Nalsar has great teachers, an admin that is responsive to student needs, an amazing campus, and has beaten NLS across moots, debates, number of vac schemes, placements etc. over the past few years. It also doesn't have the holier than thou attitude imbibed in some NLS students it appears. Even the NLS students I know hate Sudhir and his "academic rigor" policies that do nothing to change the academic environment.
News 10 Oct 2020, 10:55
+3 -1
Ah, was it the NALSAR team we saw in the grand international finals of the Jessup? Didn't think so. Was it NALSAR that broke into WUDC? Was it NALSAR that had the highest ever NLU rank in the UPSC? Didn't think so, and all of this is the very recent past, leave aside even half a decade ago.
Nls Ka baap 10 Oct 2020, 12:54
+2 -2
Nalsar made it to the quarters in Australs, no other Indian team has ever done so. Nalsar has won the national rounds of jessup two years in a row now (which means they were better than the nls team). Nalsar made it to the semis in the ICC world rounds with NLUD, nls did not. NUJS and Nalsar were winners and runners up of Vis East, where was NLS? Nalsar has had 18 vac schemes in 5 years, NLS has had not more than 6. Get out of here with your condescension
News 11 Oct 2020, 03:12
+2 -0
Lulz, to counter Law School's Jessup International Final, you bring in Vis East. Talk about a knife to a gunfight.
Guest 11 Oct 2020, 14:25
+1 -0
It didn't win those finals right? So it's still dead. At least the Vis team emerged triumphant in a knife fight.
Ajk 10 Oct 2020, 09:00
+0 -0
The number's the same as it has been in previous years. 8-9 choosing Nujs and nalsar out of top 100 is nothing odd. Almost everyone still has nls as first in the preference list
CLAT List 10 Oct 2020, 10:03
+0 -0
When have 6 students chosen NALSAR over NLS in the first list ever before? It's at the max always been 1/2...
Advice 10 Oct 2020, 12:40
+1 -4
I've been allotted NLUJ in the first list. Would it be a viable option to take a drop and try getting into the top 3 next year or should I stick with Jodhpur?
A Jodhpurite 10 Oct 2020, 16:10
+10 -0
Naah buddy, stick to jodhpur, its a great college and CLAT is too uncertain as well. Choose Wisely :)
Currently at NALSAR 10 Oct 2020, 17:24
+0 -2
You must be dense to think of skipping NUJS.
OlderWiser 11 Oct 2020, 07:04
+2 -4
Stick to NLUJ and attempt the CLAT / AILET next year - you can't go wrong with NLS, NALSAR or NLUD. Avoid the lower tier schools like NLIU, NUJS, NLUO as these are quite unsuitable.

Also you can try JGLS if some scholarship possibility exists.
Lol no 11 Oct 2020, 11:52
+1 -1
You don't seem to be a student or anyone in the industry. NUJS is widely considered much better than NLUJ, NLIU etc etc. The IFCC course is open just to NLS, Nalsar, NUJS, and NLUD students. Placements are better. Don't put so much trust in NIRF rankings, kids
Guest 11 Oct 2020, 14:27
+1 -1
You are neither older, nor wiser and not even a lawyer. Which is evident from how you don't have any idea about legal education sector in India or the legal industry.
Guest 10 Oct 2020, 19:23
+1 -0
PSA: This shocking message has been circulated by RMLNLU. WTF should someone attend a college with this type of ragging culture? If someone just 2 or 3 years older than me asked me to call him "Sir", I would tell him to F off.

[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej5e4E8UcAY_xob.jpg[/img]

https://twitter.com/SuburbanNaxal/status/1314593001855832067
Guest 11 Oct 2020, 02:47
+0 -0
Do you guys think that Grievances redressal Form on consortium site will bear any fruit ? Or we shouldn’t expect anything from that and what done is done ?
Guest 11 Oct 2020, 06:00
+1 -3
Dear Law aspirants, please remember that NIRF ranking is the only official ranking. Any other ranking given by LI commentators is totally unauthorised and bogus.
Guest 11 Oct 2020, 12:52
+0 -1
Kian, this comment is being downvoted by trolls. Please ban any comment that does not accept the NIRF rank and gives its own unauthorised "fake news rank". The fact of the matter is that the Indian government has officially confirmed that NLSIU, NLUD and NALSAR are the Big 3 and even within the Big 3 the hierarchy is NLSIU>NLUD>NALSAR for 3 years in a row. This is the official status and will be the official status.
Guest 11 Oct 2020, 14:29
+1 -0
So make a tag out of the 'official status' and pin it on your chest and walk around so that people don't forget about it. Legally India comments are the only place where anybody cares about NIRF and such idiotic things, not out in the real world.
Guest 11 Oct 2020, 08:46
Troll
+1 -2
These are 3 "platinum standard" achievements which name NLSIU number 1. Other NLUs can reach true tier 1 status only if and when they achieve these:

1 . At least 1 Jessup win
2. Grand total of at least 15 Rhodes scholars
3. Grand total of at least 100 tier 1 UK law firm TCs
Guest 11 Oct 2020, 14:30
+0 -0
NLSIU doesn't have either 2 or 3. And 1 is a standard only in the dinky moot sector. Not everyone in law schools is even interested in mooting.
Guest 11 Oct 2020, 12:59
+0 -1
Please cover the RMLNLU controversy LI.

https://twitter.com/SuburbanNaxal/status/1314593001855832067
Guest 11 Oct 2020, 14:31
+1 -0
Somebody tweets and it becomes a 'controversy'? Who cares about that student? He's not paying the fees of his juniors, so the latter don't owe anything to him anyway.
Guest 12 Oct 2020, 05:53
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The NUJS VC has just confirmed to TOI that NUJS has slipped into tier 2 status, with placements also suffering. He has said:

[quote]"There are several reasons why the top students in the CLAT list choose Bangalore, Delhi and Hyderabad over us. They are older law schools and have a long track record. We have to take a re-look at areas, like placements, research, faculty, bagging government projects and filling faculty positions."
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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata/nujs-gets-18-students-for-domicile-quota-seats/articleshow/78610847.cms

Note that NALSAR is only 2 years older than NUJS and NLUD is actually younger. NUJS was also historically chosen over NALSAR during Menon, Chimni and MP Singh days. But, of course, he would rather say false things than admit that the Mamata government is the #1 reason why the college has slipped.
Guest 12 Oct 2020, 07:06
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Err... There is no way to determine whether NUJS was chosen over NALSAR during Menon and Chimni, since there was no common entrance exam back then. During MP Singh's time, I agree that both NALSAR and NUJS were perceived as equally prestigious options. The graduate outcome of NUJS still remains as good as any NLU and perhaps better than some ahead of it in the NIRF ranking. However, it has neglected to focus on the parameters that NIRF judges. Any institution can crack these rankings with long term planning, as NLUD has shown in a short period of time. More of an administrative lapse than anything else and PIB and the state government interference are responsible for most of it. However, that hasn't really harmed student prospects yet, and the rankings can still be cracked on any given year if the present administration delivers on even half of its promises.
Guest 12 Oct 2020, 07:27
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Many people cracked both tests and chose NUJS. You can visit old pages of LST and check. Everyone chose Menon over Ranbir Singh, who was not well known then.
Guest 12 Oct 2020, 08:22
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Similarly, many chose NALSAR. Anecdotal evidence from a single coaching centre portal is hardly conclusive. There were many students who actually used to crack those exams without any coaching back in those days. And Menon was there at NUJS for only 3 years.
Guest 12 Oct 2020, 07:19
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NUJS VC: "Sir, please lock NIRF as the correct law school ranking. Final answer. "
Amitabh Bachchan: "Sahi jawab, aap 1 crore jeet gaye!"
Guest 12 Oct 2020, 08:20
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Where did you get that impression from in this ToI report? He has said that if the NIRF ranking is to improved, then certain things would have to be focused on. Which is accurate enough. That doesn't mean NIRF should be his or any institution's foremost priority. Are people daft that they would consider a highly questionable ranking process made from unverified data the sole criterion for judging institutional prowess? Actually, don't answer that question. At least many commentators here are certainly so.
Guest 12 Oct 2020, 07:35
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Placement is not suffering at all. On the contrary, placement scenario keeps improving every year. The records are all there, even LI has carried stories every year. The batch that graduated in 2020 have bagged the highest number of jobs of all NLUs.
Guest 12 Oct 2020, 14:10
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NKC supporting domicile and hiring faculty through an opaque process. But students look the other way, happily playing computer games and scratching their balls. Honestly, 4th standard students in a junior school have more spine.
Guest 12 Oct 2020, 15:11
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And you are showing your spine by sniping at them anonymously here instead of having the guts to do what you ask others out in the real world? Anybody who doesn't want faculty to be recruited is only trying to push their own selfish agenda against the interests of the students and the university. You are definitely one of those. Like Rather Particular and his incompetent fellowship.
Guest 12 Oct 2020, 14:16
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NIRF ranking is the law aspirant bible and will be the law aspirant bible. We do not care for random people giving random rankings with no official basis. Let the full CLAT and AILET lists be out and upgrades completed: the NIRF haters will have to hide their faces.
Guest 12 Oct 2020, 15:11
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Old Testament? Can I burn you then for heresy? Unless you are already stoned, which seems likely.