CLAT Day: 59k sit ‘glitch free’ CLAT at 86.2% attendance (8k admit card drop-outs) • Answer keys out • Mark for review = 0 • Tough paper but no issues reported yet • How did it go?

86.2% attend out of 68,833 candidates

Update 18:20: CLAT has released a press statement that only 68,833 candidates had downloaded admit cards (out of around 77,000 who had registered for the CLAT).

Out of those, 86.2% appeared for the exam across India, which works out to 59,334 candidates (around 77% of the originally registered 77,000).

Four exam centres apparently recorded 100% attendance, out of a total of 300 test centres had been provided this year in total, touted the release, with even one test centre in Lakshwadeep opened for a single candidate (who did not attend), with six test centres for 10 or fewer candidates each.

The release claimed the CLAT 2020 was “student friendly and went glitch free”:

CLAT-2020 was the most student friendly national admission test as student’s convenience was attached highest priority by the Consortium. Even for a single candidate, we had provided a test centre at Kavaratti (Lakshadweep) though this candidate did not appear. We had as many as 6 Centres where there were 10 or less than ten candidates. We had 10 Centres where we had 11 to 20 candidates. The highest number of centres were in Uttar Pradesh i.e. 45, followed by Delhi which had 25 centres. Maharashtra had 23 centres, Karnataka had 18 centres, 7 States had centres between 11-16 and 22 States had less than 10 centres.

The press release also mentions safety measures at exam centres, including:

  • four entry slots from 1pm to the exam centre,
  • no requirement to sign an attendance sheet.

The final results would be announced on 5 October 2020, with the admission process completing by 14 October, according to the release.

The release that the exam went glitch free seems to tally with a lack of reports online and according to our sources about any technical glitches (as opposed to the AILET and the NLAT - see below).

And while there were a few tweets with pictures of queues outside of exam centres, claiming physical distancing norms were not followed, we have not received any authoritative accounts of serious systemic problems along that front.

(Chronological updates follow again below, with the latest updates at the bottom).

The morning’s Supreme Court hearing

Update 11am:

In a 10am hearing this morning, the Supreme Court declined to stay the Common Law Admission Test (CLAT) scheduled to start at 2pm today, over a last minute plea by a Common Law Admission Test (CLAT) aspirant.

The plea, filed on Saturday, 26 September, by the aspirant via advocate Garima Prashad through advocates Sumit Chander and Vinay Kumar, had asked for a stay or other orders regarding the exam, as first been reported by LiveLaw.

We understand the Supreme Court this morning issued an order to the CLAT consortium allowing the petitioner to take the exam, which the CLAT did not contest, stating that it continued to provide isolation rooms at each exam centre.

According to the petitioner, who was in isolation due to his parents having tested positive for Covid-19, he was seeking clarification on the CLAT’s position to provide separate isolation rooms for those exhibiting Covid symptoms. According to a statement from the petitioner:

It is pertinent to mention here that the impleadment application has sought clarification to the aforementioned judgment and the assurance given via a YouTube live session by NLSIU Bangalore’s Vice Chancellor Sudhir Krishnaswamy for exam centres to have isolation rooms for symptomatic students so that they could take the exam smoothly. The applicant has alleged an infringement of his fundamental right under article 14 of the constitution.

The issue had recently re-surfaced on 24 September, after the Times of India had reported that NUJS Kolkata vice-chancellor (VC) had promised he would speak to the CLAT consortium about what could be done for Covid-19-positive test takers.

The consortium had quickly issued a statement on its website after that article, clarifying:

NOTE: As per Government of India guidelines COVID-19 positive candidates won’t be allowed. This is being done in larger public interest and to protect other candidates.

It is understood that part of the issue is a public health issue, in that those who have actually themselves recently tested positive for Covid are often not allowed to leave their self-isolation by law.

However, the CLAT has organised separate rooms for those who exhibit fever or other Covid-like symptoms at the exam hall door.

The CLAT submitted in court today that such rooms would continue to be available today.

Update 11:20: Bar & Bench has just reported more details from the hearing:

However, the Bench of Justices Ashok Bhushan, R Subhash Reddy and MR Shah clarified that this order was only limited to the applicant and had no bearing on any other student.

Though Advocate Sumit Chander urged the Court to pass similar orders for other similarly placed students, it refused to pass any such blanket order.

“You are only wasting the Court’s time,” observed Justice Bhushan.

Update 11:54: Read the full order here. ### Test day today: Let us hvae your feedback

Update 11am: That said, today is also the day of the CLAT, which is due to start at 2pm.

After the chequered experiences by some candidates on Saturday (26 September) for the NLU Delhi All India Law Entrance Test (AILET), it’s only fair to ask how the CLAT today is and will be going for up to 77,000 candidates.

The CLAT today is for potentially four times as many candidates as the AILET, which may have seen around 20,000 candidates register (though NLU Delhi has not officially confirmed any figures to date).

AILET complaints ranged from inability to book test centres in cities due to an insufficient number available, to test centre hardware, internet connectivity and inexpert invigilation causing delays and frustration for candidates.

The AILET had been administered by the government’s National Testing Agency (NTA), which had been blamed by some candidates for the issues.

By contrast, fortunately for CLAT aspirants, we understand that the NTA is not carrying out roday’s exam; CLAT officials would not confirm the name of its vendor for the 240+ test centres due to wanting to reduce any risks to the integrity of the exam.

The short-lived National Law Aptitude Test (NLAT), which had been conducted at short notice as a CLAT-replacement as an online-home-proctored exam by NLSIU Bangalore, had also seen serious complaints on and before exam day(s) and was eventually quashed by the Supreme Court.

In any case, here’s to hoping for the best, and wishing good luck and a mostly stress free experience to all candidates today, despite the unusual circumstances.

Update 16:38: Early reports suggest that the paper was rather difficult today, which is not a bad thing inherently though cut-offs would naturally be lower.

The GK section was apparently particularly harrowing and the entire paper was long.

Also, so far, no technical issues have been reported or any major issues at test centres (according to some people we’ve spoken and judging by the relative radio-silence on Twitter so far).

Marking for review = unanswered

Update 17:16: We have heard one minor potential issue surrounding today’s exam.

Apparently, the exam’s instructions today explicitly noted that any questions “marked for review”, in order to bookmark these and return to them later, would not be counted (even if the candidate had given an answer before clicking the ‘mark for review & next question’ button).

However, we understand that this was not the case in the mocks.

We have confirmed from sources with knowledge of the CLAT that, as per today’s instructions, any questions marked for review would not be counted as answered (unless returned to later and answered).

In one way, that seems like the only fair way to handle it: the instructions given before the exam should be the authoritative ones, even vis-a-vis a mock exam, and reading comprehension is, after-all, a part of the CLAT syllabus.

Calculators

17:21: This was not the only difference between today’s exam and the mock exams.

Around a week ago, the CLAT had notified candidates of the following:

This is to notify that use of calculator (onscreen, manual, watch or in any other way) in the CLAT examination has not been permitted in the previous years and it will not be permitted in this year’s CLAT 2020 examination too.

The on-screen calculator in the mocks was inadvertently displayed without the approval from the executive committee or the convenor.

Still quiet on the Clastern front

17:41: Still no major reports of technical issues with today’s CLAT on Twitter or elsewhere, which seems like a good sign…

Answer keys released

18:46: Answer keys released by consortium already via the website.

Comments

2020batch 28 Sept 2020, 05:59
+8 -0
man i thought we had it bad, but the incoming '25 batch and the '21 batch have got the shortest end of the short straws...(and '22 for rcc purposes possibly)
Guest 28 Sept 2020, 06:00
+10 -17
WARNING: The NLSIU mafia from pre-CLAT batches will engage in massive disinformation to discredit CLAT today. They will exaggerate the smallest of hitches to make the argument that NLSIU should Claxit.
Inexplicable 28 Sept 2020, 09:25
+4 -4
No such thing will happen. The court order is very clear that NLSIU has to stay with CLAT this year and in the future. What is very likely is that NLU Delhi will also join CLAT 2021.
Guest2 28 Sept 2020, 12:56
+4 -3
The only exaggeration I see is your comment.
Guest 28 Sept 2020, 06:24
+7 -1
A girl from an underprivileged background tweeted this to Sonu Sood today. This shows that CLAT is for the masses, unlike AILET and NLAT.

[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ei-uZTAXsAEiOHN.jpg[/img]

https://twitter.com/Srishti49128570/status/1310457776401981443
nlu student 28 Sept 2020, 11:02
+1 -4
i read this on linkedin some days back and it was stuck in my mind. Posted by JGLS Anand Prakash Mishra, professor and Director of Law Admissions.

[i]"I have students who wrote Remote-Proctored LSAT exam from places like Bettiah, West Champaran and Kasargod, Kerala successfully. One of them by hiring a computer for 3 hours in a cyber cafe as he didn't have good WiFi at home. [b]Students who pay INR 4000 to register for the Test and ready to join an NLU if selected, are not EWS and BPL people[/b]."[/i]

link to the post - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/anandpmishra_clat-postponed-indefinitely-until-further-activity-6697570423455940608-7gpd

He is a learned person. Either he truly believes that or he was lying.
Maybe it is the effect of teaching rich kids, that he does not know ki people from unprivileged background go to nlus or worse he teaches rich kids with this kind of myopic view.
Guest 28 Sept 2020, 13:38
+20 -1
He gets paid by an institution to do PR and outreach regardless of actual facts or truth. I don't think he can or should be considered as a teacher of law anymore.
Dwarka Dynamite 28 Sept 2020, 08:50
+18 -2
LI's desperate attempts to compare skirmishes in AILET and CLAT with the NLAT fiasco is hilarious to say the least.
Guest 28 Sept 2020, 12:30
Troll
+12 -2
Shameless LI is now trying to cosy up to NLSIU.
Vendor 28 Sept 2020, 09:30
+3 -1
Isn't the Vendor TCS iON?
Pi 28 Sept 2020, 11:23
+4 -0
make clat no profit exam
Guest 28 Sept 2020, 12:28
Troll
+23 -2
CLAT went smoothly. Tight slap to NLSIU mafia and Sudhir bhakts, who were praying for a failure. And will Prashant Reddy now withdraw his tweet where he said CLAT harms NLSIU's reputation?
Guest3 28 Sept 2020, 12:58
+1 -4
You seems to know quite well what they think. Please endow us with the godly gift of you have of knowing things like this.
Guest 28 Sept 2020, 12:31
+5 -8
Since AILET was a flop, a PIL should now demand that NLUD be brought inside CLAT.
NLUD Insider 28 Sept 2020, 15:15
+2 -1
The biggest threat to AILET would have been appointment of PSJ who being VP of consortium was favorably inclined to bring NLUD under clat fold, with SKDR at the helm, the crisis has been...ahem, managed!
Skankhunt42 28 Sept 2020, 13:26
+3 -1
Were none of the questions incorrect? Did CLAT just pull off a well-executed exam?
2025! 28 Sept 2020, 13:28
+8 -0
Worried after NLS exam, but CLAT was much much smoother, no issues. Definitely very hard to give an exam with masks on but small sacrifice to make to be able to join college this year.
Future 28 Sept 2020, 13:52
+14 -2
Interesting that the notoriously unreliable CLAT (2014-15 flashbacks, anyone?) is being hailed for a smooth conduct while AILET had (minor) issues and NLAT completely shat the bed.
Grateful 28 Sept 2020, 13:53
+52 -0
I had my test centre in TCS Kolkata. Had to travel almost 50 km from home. But made big mistake and forgot my id proof. Felt like crying when I realised that standing in line. But the CLAT representative and TCS people proved very nice and patient. They even gave me phone to talk to my mother at home, whatsapp photo of my id card to them and verify it. My mother couldn't send pictures well, took her 3 attempts to get it right. The CLAT guy talked to her on phone throughout. Not only for me, there were others too who were having same problem. Till I got in, I could see them trying to help all of them. I really thought they would turn me back by saying rules. I was very nervous even after that, thinking someone might come and stop my exam midway. Don't know if I did well enough to crack this exam, but I will definitely study law. I am also so much grateful to those people. Don't even know their names, but the CLAT guy was a teacher I think. I couldn't see him after the exam. But I thanked the TCS guy whom I could see. If more people behaved like that, it would be a blessing to students like us. The centre was good too, no technical problem at all.
Guest 28 Sept 2020, 17:53
+15 -0
@12: Please email your comment to Sudhir and NLSIU lobby so that they understand how an exam should be conducted and how admin should behave with students.
Noojie 29 Sept 2020, 08:01
+8 -0
I know the teacher who was doing CLAT duty at that Centre. Would pass your message on. Glad to know that you could give the exam after all. Hope you make it through!
Neha Malhotra 28 Sept 2020, 13:53
+31 -1
Fun fact- clat pg had a question where they asked if iit Kharagpur decided to leave the JEE exam consortium one week before the exam, can the exam be challenged and on what grounds :P
Waah 28 Sept 2020, 14:24
+14 -1
Sach mein. It is like clat taunting Nlat.
Alum 28 Sept 2020, 16:12
+2 -2
Are you serious? There was a prof in a national law school who used to take such digs at his colleagues by asking similar questions in his subject. Hope he did not set the question paper.he is demoted also.
Umph 28 Sept 2020, 16:14
+0 -0
I hope this is a joke since the Consortium had issued a statement that lets bygone be bygones.
kianganz 28 Sept 2020, 16:21
+15 -0
True fun fact it seems :)

From the answer key:

[img]https://www.legallyindia.com/images/uploads/20200928-214812.jpg[/img]

However, as far as I know, the core consortium committee does not create or have access to the questions, which are handled by a different committee in confidence...
Alum 29 Sept 2020, 14:41
+0 -0
Why not manifest arbitrariness?Violation of Art. 14.
Guest 28 Sept 2020, 17:54
+8 -0
That question was a classy way to troll Sudhir.
Guest 28 Sept 2020, 17:58
+0 -9
A girl from Jaipur is expected to be this year's topper, according to a top coaching centre.
Guest 28 Sept 2020, 17:59
+11 -10
Congratulations to Faizan Mustafa for a flawless exam and condolences to Sudhir Krishnaswamy.
Guest 28 Sept 2020, 18:07
+1 -4
Please cover JGLS LSAT results and publish the full merit list.
Guest 28 Sept 2020, 18:23
+2 -26
The CLAT exam was a massive failure and breach of public safety. No social distancing was followed. Many pictures have been posted on social media for proof. The reason for conducting NLAT was to protect the safety of the public by making people give an online exam. This is why. Now Covid cases will rise and put lakhs of people at risk. NLAT organisers stand vindicated.
Smitanshu 29 Sept 2020, 04:39
+12 -1
The centre that I was in had over a thousand students giving the exam. Social distancing norms had been followed as much as practically possible. I had also been privileged enough to sit for NLAT. That had been a grade A disaster.
Mamaji 29 Sept 2020, 04:48
+2 -0
Oh, wasn't the reason for NLAT to avoid a zero year? Goalpost shifting seems to happen at lightspeed in NLS.
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 05:10
+8 -0
Forget goalpost, they are prone to change the whole game midway! As a famous NLS alumnus said recently in court, it is like we buy tickets for cricket and then get to see football instead!
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 05:21
+10 -1
Latest scandal at NLSIU: Pay Rs 2,000 as convocation fee for a convocation held in absentia. Thank heavens we have Twitter, since Sudhir bhakt media is not covering it.

[img]https://www.legallyindia.com/images/uploads/20200929-143854.jpg[/img]

https://twitter.com/chaar_mee/status/1310457110413455360
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 05:36
+3 -0
Someone should tag people like Prashant and Chirayu in posts like this, so that they can then tweet about the price of sharing NLSIU's glory (and gilded hallow) and how people are being stingy and mediocre by refusing to pay up and they should take part in NALSAR's 'cheap' convo instead.
aka 29 Sept 2020, 06:14
+3 -3
Any student who gave CLAT 2020 will tell you that there are glaring errors in the answer key . They even messed up the answers of gk questions somehow . This exam was definitely not a success .
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 07:57
+7 -1
Point those out to the authorities instead of posting anon comments here.
Jabra Fan 29 Sept 2020, 06:15
+0 -19
Faizan and co. are crossing all limits in trying to undermine Law School. Now they are allowing students to change their preference order after results are declared. No doubt they are hoping that some students who are foremost rankers would change from Law School to Nalsar etc. because of their smear campaign over the past month. It would be a tight slap on them when all the top rankers would still opt for Law School. Anybody who does not would be a fool and probably cracked CLAT by cheating anyway.
Okay 29 Sept 2020, 06:42
+4 -0
Oh look you're back. Changing preference should have always been an option, glad that it's been introduced this year.
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 08:05
+7 -0
I never understood why the preferences needed to be submitted even before the exam anyway!
CLAT2020taker 29 Sept 2020, 06:47
+8 -2
The answer key has so many logical inconsistencies, gk errors etc. I have counted atleast 23 errors in the answer key, and I’m not the only one, most students have found 15-20 errors, atleast the students in my coaching centre have. The pattern does not reflect the sample papers at all but it’s even more unfortunate that the quality of the paper does not even come close to the samples. With the way this shitstorm of a year has panned out for law aspirants, I have no hope for any revisions in the actual answer key.
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 07:58
+7 -2
Maybe the students from your coaching centre have got the answers wrong. That possibility is way more likely.
Scooty 29 Sept 2020, 08:39
+0 -0
Post at least 5 here if it's tru else just shut up.
CLAT2020taker 29 Sept 2020, 09:44
+3 -1
Oh gladly, I’m not going to copy paste all the questions here because they’re huge and mostly comprehension based, but the question paper with the provisional key has been uploaded to the consortium website so please feel free to go cross check.
Question number - 5, 6, 8, 14, 16, 19, 24, 103, 107, 122, 125, 128 - now these are from the English, logic and legal sections which of course are more subjective in general so one could argue that it is my reasoning and not theirs that is flawed (though these are the questions that I’ve picked from my own objections that coaching centres have also put out in their own compilations)
Question number - 35, 45, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150 - these however are from the math and gk sections, the objective sections, and are definitely wrong.

Please feel free to point out a single question from the ones I’ve mentioned atleast in the second part, that are in fact not errors, “else just shut up” xx
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 10:28
+1 -1
7 disputed questions out of 200 aren't that big a deal if they just accommodate the concerns in the revised answer key, right?
CLAT2020taker 29 Sept 2020, 12:00
+0 -0
Seven from just the gk and math sections, and the paper’s out of 150. It’s all good if they rectify it in the original key, but most students have a lot of (pretty legitimate) objections and I doubt they’d make that many revisions.
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 12:25
+2 -0
Students would make objections no matter what the right answer. There are even more students who would go with the answers declared. That's no parameter of anything.
Scooty 29 Sept 2020, 14:40
+0 -0
Post at least 2 which are definitely wrong in your opinion. If you cannot you are just faking.
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 08:18
+0 -0
Has the AILET answer key been released too?
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 09:02
+5 -9
It was cheap and unethical to give the question about Law School's withdrawal from the CLAT exam in the CLAT paper, disguised as an IIT JEE question.
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 09:29
+7 -0
No no, it's exactly the sort of ethics that the NLSIU VC teaches and practises himself.
Okay 29 Sept 2020, 12:03
+0 -0
It is unethical to commit a mistake, not mock the mistake. By your logic was it also unethical for the SC to strike down the NLAT?
Mentor 29 Sept 2020, 09:26
Troll Contested
+2 -20
I advise CLAT aspirants and parents that their preference should be guided by NIRF as well as long term prospects, where the NIRF table will change by 2025. Also go by political realities. I thus advise this list:

1.NLSIU (follow NIRF)
2. NALSAR (follow NIRF)
3. GNLU (good long term prospect: industry of Gujarat + Modiji support: it will be like IIM Ahmedabad)
4. MNLU Mumbai (good long term prospect: Mumbai is business capital)
5. NLUJ (go by NIRF to place ahead of NUJS: either Sachin Pilot or RS Rathore will be next CM of Rajasthan, both are good and will support the college)
6. NUJS (go by NIRF to place below NLUJ: long term prospect not good as CM is bad, but alumni base is saving grace)
7. RGNUL (go by NIRF)
8. NLIU (go by NIRF to give low rank: long term prospect not good, but alum base is good)
9. NLUO (good long term prospect: Dharmendra Pradhan or Jay Panda will be next Odisha CM: both are pro-development and will boost economy)
10. RMLNLU (good long term prospect: Yogiji will support),
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 10:25
+9 -3
The person who's compiled this list needs to get their mental health checked by a professional. Any person who selects GNLU and NLUJ over NUJS would do so at their own risk. It is obvious that this mentor is right wing troll. NLUM hasn't ever managed to place even 20% of its graduating batch yet. Even the RGNUL VC won't put his NLU ahead of NLUO Bhopal. Only an idiot chooses NLUs based on the state economy. Are the students going to get jobs in the same state? This is beyond trollish, and misleading. It is downright demented. Kian, you should have a troll of trolls sticker if you allow this kind of comment.
Rendang 29 Sept 2020, 12:06
+0 -1
The "Mentor" is obviously some deluded MNLU kid - I think part of their curriculum is to wander the LI comments section claiming they're the best new NLU in town with nothing to show for it. I agree that the ranking above is some bunkum nonsense, but your examples are hard to take seriously too. Both GNLU and NLUJ are valid alternatives for NUJS especially if you consider the leadership changes in these places and NUJS infrastructure problems. RGNUL is a "safe" NLU and is in fact preferred by a decent chunk of students over NLIU Bhopal.
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 12:24
+2 -1
What leadership changes? To what heights has Poonam Saxena taken NLUJ to apart from getting gheraoed for not doing their job? Every NLUJ faculty member who is any good is unhappy working at that place (no fault of the students). The admin is making the faculty physically visit office throughout the pandemic just to take online classes from there for God's sake! As for GNLU, they keep spamming everyone's inbox about hundreds of new workshops of dubious quality, but not much in the way of output. If anyone chooses RGNUL over Bhopal, then they are committing a huge mistake. In any parameter whatsoever, NLIU is much ahead.
Rendang 29 Sept 2020, 12:44
+0 -2
It's an unusual line of interpretation of my comment that you have taken. If your biggest problem with a university is physical presence in office (in line with most companies in the world now) and workshops to keep students busy (really, this is a problem for you?) then maybe those universities aren't so bad after all.

Anyway the point of my comment was not to say that either of those NLUs are better than NUJS, although arguably that may well be the case in a few years, it was to say that students choosing GNLU/NLUJ over NUJS is fairly common. RGNUL is actually rather popular these days, so I'm not sure where you're getting your information from. I work directly with NLU aspirants, I doubt you do.
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 14:09
+1 -0
Fairly common based on what stats? Please cite some. You work with NLU aspirants is just a polished way of saying that you run a coaching centre. It's clear that you have very little idea about what legal education is about if those were your conclusions based on what I said about the admin at NLUJ and GNLU. In fact, it doesn't say much about your logical reasoning either. I never said NLUJ or GNLU are bad places, simply that 'leadership changes' haven't improved them in any visible manner unlike what you claim. By the way, the purpose of academic workshops isn't to 'keep students busy' as you so eloquently put it. I think you're confusing workshops with the CLAT worksheets that you liberally distribute among your students. I also see that you've avoided the NLIU/RGNUL point. Can you show me a single metric where the latter is ahead of the former? People should choose NLUs based on their graduate outcome. Everything else is secondary. Because people are going in to get trained for what they would do after graduating.
Ramloo 29 Sept 2020, 12:13
+2 -0
What has Adityanath done for RMLNLU in the years that he has been in power, other than turning UP into a jungle raj and one of the states with the worst record of crimes against women? What rubbish logic! In fact, he is set to start another NLU in the same state instead of trying to improve the one that's already there. RMLNLU has been around for 15 years, and it is still in the category of also-rans. Whatever the students have achieved, it is their own credit. If one has to learn how a state government should support a NLU, one should look at NLUD.
Jabar Fan 29 Sept 2020, 12:17
+2 -4
Just another nail on the coffins of naysayers and anti-NLS trolls here. Karnataka HC has just quashed the domicile reservation. This goes to prove beyond all doubt that all the other NLUs are only local state colleges, while Law School is the only one of its kind. This is why Sudhir would take us out of CLAT soon, and to exclusive INI status after that, and higher global rankings afterwards. The others can keep their mediocre and stupid CLAT and keep squabbling amongst themselves and make youtube videos out of that.
KaafiSarcasm 29 Sept 2020, 12:39
+2 -0
Please no one fall for this garbage incitement. I can bet that no one from NLS subscribes to this view unless of course the person who put this comment is from NLS.
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 14:11
+2 -0
@Kaafi: Sadly, many people from NLSIU think exactly like that though they don't always express their opinion in such a crude and crass fashion. That has become very apparent during the NLAT fiasco.
AtNLS 29 Sept 2020, 14:40
+3 -0
I don't think I agree with you. If you are friends with anyone from the current student body, you'll realize that the majority of the student body had opposed NLAT. We even had a mail thread where multiple committees and many students voiced their objections against the conduct of NLAT. Not to mention the RVR aarti after NLAT go quashed :P (Kian has been in one such RVR aarti lol). So ya, Jabar Fan or whatever are just exceptions, assuming they are from NLS to begin with.
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 15:14
+0 -1
I was mostly referring to the NLSIU alumni, not current students. The same ones who pretend to shed crocodile tears at the plight of the underprivileged, and then applaud their fellow alum/VC's moves of extorting fees from students for absentee convocation during pandemic!
Alum1 29 Sept 2020, 18:03
+3 -0
Hi, you need to be careful with your generalizations. I agree that some senior alumni, especially who had a vigorously endorsed his appointment, did endorse NLAT. But that's all the alumni support sudhir had for NLAT. Numerous alumni groups objected to NLAT. In fact, the the alumni objections regarding NLAT was so wide that sudhir had a mail sent to all alumni groups assuring us that NLAT would be conducted properly, which he obviously failed to.
Real Jabar 29 Sept 2020, 13:12
+4 -2
Wait till you see the judgment. Says "NLS is not like other NLUs, it is unique and the undisputed apex. It is like AIIMS/IIT/IIM. Others can have reservation, but not the Law School." Even Law School alumni did not expect such a solid endorsement of "office mein tera baap kaun" from the HC.
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 14:15
+5 -1
How is it like the IITs or IIMs exactly? It's not cared for by the central government, it is formed under a state act, it is almost a unidisciplinary university. These days judgements are plain bizarre! If they want to call NLSIU the most reputed of all NLUs, even rank one, that still makes sense. How can it be rank one (which means it is competing with others on the same parameters) and a complete class apart at the same time? Is this actually a legally trained judge or a first year fanboy? Who even writes this stuff!
Real Jabar 29 Sept 2020, 19:47
+1 -1
Now you want to blame the judge? Lol. Haters just gonna hate. This time, there has been a ringing endorsement of the fact that there is only one Law School, a distinct class apart from the rest of the National Law Universities. That too for the Karnataka High Court to put it so clearly taking down what was the culmination of a repeatedly promulgated attempt by the state govt, it should really show the reality of the primary position of the Law School. Despite what some other NLUs have tried to pivot to lately (especially post Sudhir's VCship which raised the profile even further), Law School is not primus inter pares, but in a class of its own.
Wow 29 Sept 2020, 15:51
+3 -0
GShanks has a lot more integrity than you anonymous trolls. He stated that the judgement was a win and hoped it would give autonomy to all NLUs, not just NLS
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 17:42
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The problem is that even among NLS alumni, GShanks is on the minority's side. As evidenced during NLAT. That guy is both competent and has integrity, a rare combination.
Real Jabar 29 Sept 2020, 19:48
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Who is GSanks to have a monopoly on interpreting this judgment? He wasn't even arguing. It was KG Raghavan and CK Nandakumar, who were the advocates.
Jabar you fool 30 Sept 2020, 01:09
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NOT ALL IIMs ARE INI YET ADMISSION IN ALL IIMs IS THROUGH CAT. AN EXAM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH INI STATUS
Guest 30 Sept 2020, 08:52
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You are wrong. All IITs and IIMs have INI status, including the newer ones.
Gulag 29 Sept 2020, 11:52
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NLS domicile struck down! Thats GShanks' second victory for NLS in a week!!
Wow 29 Sept 2020, 12:00
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Law School domicile quota struck down. Hahahha, now we know who is BOSS!
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 13:06
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I heard it is Akshay Kumar. If you are looking for Bigg Boss, that's Salman Khan. Sudhir can audition for Mini-Me's role maybe to either of them?
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 12:51
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I request everyone to please hold on to comments about the NLSIU domicile judgement. I am sure Kian will be posting a separate article on that and we can have the discussion on that thread. I am sure Kian will also contact people at NUJS regarding the pending Cal HC case. Please save your energy for a few hours until Kian posts a separate article.
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 12:53
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NUJS can top the CLAT preference list if there is a change of govt and the new cabinet has people like Sourav Ganguly, Swapan Dasgupta, Vikramjit Banerjee and Sanjeev Sanyal. Else it will slide further.
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 14:03
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Yes, because only Ganguly can lead a law school to the top. A BJP government would be formed of the same uneducated people that are running the states like UP and the Centre. Not that the current one is any better either.
Sure 29 Sept 2020, 14:21
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NUJS operates out of a rundown building in a city with next to no legal opportunities, it only tops legacy lists. Delusional.
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 14:36
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Next to no legal opportunities? Aww... grapes are too sour it seems. By that logic, NLU Mumbai should be topping all lists. It isn't.
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 14:44
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That 'rundown' building has produced many lawyers much better than you would ever become, so I can understand your frustration. Maybe you should try to channel it into improving your actual skills instead of venting.
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 20:15
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The timid and lazy SJA at NUJS will simply ignore the NSLIU judgement and not oppose the admin's reply to the Cal HC (which defends domicile quota). Any other student body would have filed an intervention petition and then goes to the SC if the Cal HC disagreed with Karnataka.
Guest 30 Sept 2020, 00:19
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Careful. Lord Strength will complain to VC. In this age l***** is the guard ***.
Guest 29 Sept 2020, 20:16
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Why radio silence from LI on the big Karnataka HC judgement?
Guest 30 Sept 2020, 00:21
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Kian, will report with scoops that no one else has. Either that or nothing.

Scoop! Scoop!
Guest 30 Sept 2020, 04:17
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Keep calm and trust Kian. He will do an exclusive story.
Guest 30 Sept 2020, 04:11
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Let's hope for a scoop from LI covering aspects of the controversy that have been missed by B&B and LL. We especially need clarity on the following:

1. The BCI and Vikramjit Banerjee opposed domicile reservation at NLSIU. What is their position on other NLUs?

2. How do other NLUs feel about the NLSIU's submission to the court (which the court impliedly upheld) that NLSIU is a special national institution whereas other NLUs are state colleges like KSLU?

3. Is NLSIU now going to pull out of CLAT and lobby for KSLU to take its place?

4. What is the status of NLSIU's application for Institute of National Importance? Will the judgement now strengthen NLSIU's case?

5. What is the latest on the NUJS domicile case? Has NUJS admin filed its reply to the court? Is the NUJS admin agreeing with NLSIU's contention that NLSIU is a national institute but NUJS is a state institute like KSLU?

6. Where does this leave the #NationaliseNLUs movement? LI had reported that all NLUs had signed a petition some years ago. Is NLSIU now not interested, since it has already been declared as National by the court and is expected to get INI status from the government?

7. What is the position of eminent lawyers like Harish Salve, Gopal Subramanian, KKV etc? Do they think that NLSIU is special, or that all NLUs should be INIs free of domicile quota?
Real Jabar 30 Sept 2020, 06:39
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Also, rather ironic that Faizan fought to have NLS retained in CLAT. This is turning out to be a rather pyrrhic victory, as (1) Being in CLAT meant that top 80 would (almost entirely) go to Law School, rather than NALSAR/NUJS; (2) this domicile circus had Law School increase intake to 120 to account for the state quota, which the HC now struck down, while keeping the intake at 120. The only losers here will be NALSAR/NUJS, and further knock-on effects to all lower NLUs where they will all have 40 less meritorious students (in whatever category).
Wow 30 Sept 2020, 10:21
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Do you think there's really that much of a difference in the merit of students who are separated by a maximum of 5 marks in a test based a lot on luck? Some of the best performers in our batch are people who barely got in and were bumped up
Aggs 30 Sept 2020, 10:47
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This is an unpopular opinion on here but if the exam was really based on luck then there wouldn't be a visible difference in the quality of students at a top 3 nlu and some place like nlu Assam. Please don't misconstrue this to mean that everyone at the lower nlu's is inferior to the higher ones. To say that the exam is based on luck is just foolish and disrespectful towards people who end up making it
Wow 30 Sept 2020, 12:35
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The visible difference is because of the higher disparity in marks between those who get into the top 5 and those who don't. A lot of people who don't make it to the top 5 also leave and join SLS/Jindal and other private colleges, so even people from much lower ranks make it to lower nlus. Moreover, I'm not saying it is entirely based on luck, but it is to a large extent. I made it to nls without mugging up current affairs for a year because the GK section was so tough that no one could answer it. Any other year, I probably wouldn't have made it. Similarly, others may not have known those particular GK questions and could have know a lot more in general than the students that knew these random facts. In this way, it is highly luck based. Acknowledging the element of luck isn't foolish or disrespectful, I don't have delusions of grandeur just because I happened to do well on one exam.

Irrespective, there's no difference in the merit of students who make it to NLS versus say NUJS because they are separated by a maximum of 5 marks. I've interned with many NUJS students who are just as competent as any of my batch mates. The idea that there'll be a huge drop in quality of students of other NLUs because NLS is taking 40 more is ridiculous
Guest 30 Sept 2020, 08:50
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Kian, please call the VCs and student body heads of other NLUs for their reaction to the Karnataka HC judgement. In particular, the observation of the court that NLSIU is akin to IIT and IIM. Where does this leave other NLUs? No updates from you on this and we are getting impatient!
Insider 30 Sept 2020, 08:59
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I have some explosive news on the NUJS domicile case. I have a copy of the college's draft reply to the court and can post it on WeTransfer (draft word version dated 28 September). But I will first wait for LI to start a new article and thread on it and to get the college's reply. It may be that the position taken in the draft reply has changed, so it would be wrong to leak it now.
Guest 30 Sept 2020, 17:35
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Slightly off topic: I encourage all law aspirants and parents to watch this video with glimpses of the JGLS campus. I am sharing this in public interest for law aspirants, as not many colleges upload such videos of their campuses.

[img]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0RUvuKs8-k&[/img]
Guest 1 Oct 2020, 07:36
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I have filed an RTI with the Law Ministry and HRD Ministry seeking the following info:

1. Please confirm if a written or oral submission was made by NLSIU Bengaluru seeking Institution of National Importance status.

2. Please state date of receipt of such submission.

3. Please state current status of such submission.

4. Please share all correspondence with NLSIU and relevant file notings in relation to such submission.
Guest 1 Oct 2020, 08:38
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1. No
2. N/A
3. N/A
4. N/A
Guest 1 Oct 2020, 09:36
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Sorry, here is the correct link to the JGLS video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0RUvuKs8-k


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0RUvuKs8-k[/youtube]
Guest 1 Oct 2020, 10:19
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The drug den hasn't been shown in the video. I understand that's one of the main attractions. And the swimming pool ought to have been covered better too. Kya yaar, PR toh thik se kar lete, salary kis cheez ki lete ho?
006 1 Oct 2020, 15:27
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LI is showing its bias by failing to report the CLAT disaster unraveling at the moment!
Guest 1 Oct 2020, 17:00
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Bhakt spotted. Anybody wants to start a bet on whether this one is a Sudhir Bhakt or an NLUD troll or a Jindal PR guy?