SC quashes NLSIU’s problematic NLAT due to AC, 0 year-0, access, notice • NLS may take over CLAT sec’y again [READ JUDGMENT]

NLS to rejoin CLAT post SC orders
NLS to rejoin CLAT post SC orders

The Supreme Court has ruled that NLSIU Bangalore’s National Law Aptitude Test (NLAT) exam as invalid, accepting nearly all arguments of the petitioners and rejecting nearly all of NLS’.

The exam had been announced at short notice in a break from the Common Law Admission Test (CLAT) and was marred by technical issues.

Update 11:55: NLSIU has updated its admissions microsite with a link to the final judgment (see screenshot above).

The Supreme Court bench of justices Ashok Bhushan, R Subhash Reddy and MR Shah has now ordered NLSIU to re-join the CLAT 2020 process.

SC quashes NLSIU’s notification on #NLAT2020. SC says that the NLSIU shall conduct its admission process in accordance with the CLAT 2020.

The CLAT completion of results be completed as early as possible so that the Courses by all NLU’s can begin by mid— October 2020. — LiveLaw

After two days of intense arguments, their lordships have now put the NLAT genie back in the bottle.

What is unclear is how, if at all, NLS will unravel the application fees of the 27,000-odd applicants and how it will re-integrate back into the CLAT system.

Also, NLS will now need to restructure its trimester system and syllabus in order to adjust for the later start date.

We have reached out to NLS, the CLAT convenors and the petitioners’ lawyers for comment.

Update 19:59: NLS has announced it would refund the Rs 150 application fees per candidate, after subtracting Rs 75 “processing charges”.

Update 22:25: Prof Faizan Mustafa hs also made a statement on behalf of the consortium, urging bygones to be treated as bygones.

‘Unbelievable truly’

Advocate Shubham Gautam (an NLIU Bhopal 2015 graduate), who had pro bono filed a case in the Jharkhand high court with advocate Baibhaw Gahlaut, and intervened in the Supreme Court case with Kush Chaturvedi (AOR), Aditya Shekhar and Priyashree Sharma, commented:

Filing the case the very next day of notification, getting listed on urgent basis and then losing in Hon’ble Jharkhand High Court. Still appealing before SC And then winning! It’s been one hell of a ride. Happy is the word. This is unbelievable truly. When all decisions have gone against students, the decision of the Hon’ble S.C. comes as a sunshine.

I sincerely thank all the students who agreed to be the petitioners, learned senior advocates who argued on behalf of the petitioners, my colleagues Baibhaw Gahlaut, Aditya Shekhar and AOR Mr. Kush Chaturvedi. Now the students can reward us by performing well in the CLAT 2020 exam. We wish them all the best.

The Supreme Court also ordered that NLSIU should (‘may’) become treasurer / secretary of the CLAT consortium again.

(V) The respondent No.3 may take decision at an early date restoring the status of respondent No.2 as the Secretary-Treasurer of the Consortium as well as restoring the Secretariat of the Consortium as to NLSIU, keeping in mind that scheduled exam of CLAT-2020 on 28.09.2020 is not hampered in any manner.

The judgment

The Supreme Court rejected nearly all of NLSIU’s arguments, starting with its contention that the petitioners’ lacked standing to bring their writ.

However (see below for more detail), the court decided (perhaps wisely, considering all the technological quagmire and buzzwords) that it did not need to enter whether NLS would have been able to catch cheating or not (though the justices expressed “no doubt” that the “premier university… “must have taken all necessary precautions to avoid any malpractices and cheating”.

Access under article 14 was key

The judgment concluded that the main issues were “transparency and integrity” of the exam and its short notice:

95. We thus conclude that home based online examination as proposed by the respondent No.1 University for NLAT- 2020-21 could not be held to be a test which was able to maintain transparency and integrity of the examination. The short notice and technological requirements insisted by the University deprived a large number of students to participate in the test violating their rights under Article 14 of the Constitution of India.

Not persuaded by zero year argument

The judges added that they were not convinced by NLSIU’s rationale that it had been forced to start the NLAT to avoid a so-called ‘zero year’ write-off of the 2020-21 academic session for new joiners:

86. We are not persuaded to accept the submission that “Doctrine of Necessity” was applicable in the fact situation of the ongoing pandemic. As noted above, UGC in its guidelines dated 29.04.2020 has already asked all the Universities to modify their academic calendar for the academic year 2020-21. The UGC being the body to maintain standard of education in the entire country and having contemplated for suitable amending the academic year, “Doctrine of Necessity” does not arise.

We thus conclude that being members of the Consortium respondent No.1 ought not to have proceeded with holding a separate test namely “NLAT” nor the academic year 2020-21 be required to be declared as “zero-year” even if the course starts in the mid of October, 2020.

NLS failed in not consulting its academic council

As had first been raised publicly by Nalsar Hyderabad VC Prof Faizan Mustafa, and as we had confirmed that the NLSIU academic council (AC) indeed had not met, the Supreme Court agreed that NLS notification for the NLAT was invalid without prior AC recommendation:

62. We, thus, are of the considered opinion that respondent No. 1 was required by the Statute to obtain recommendation of Academic Council before proceeding to hold NLAT by issuing admission notification dated 03.09.2020.

We, thus, in view of the forgoing discussions, hold that admission notification dated 03.09.2020 issued by respondent No.1 could not have been issued without obtaining the recommendation to this effect by the Academic Council. Admission notification dated 03.09.2020 having been issued without recommendation of Academic Council is not in accordance with the provisions of Act, 1986 and is unsustainable.

Technology: Trust in Number 1 NLU (and anon forensic consultancy)

On the other hand, the Supreme Court was not really interested in going in more deeply into instances of cheating or faulty technology, saying it placed faith in NLS’ statements in court that its systems were robust enough:

100. It is submitted that extensive technological and other measures are implemented to ensure that any candidate attempting any form of malpractices is caught and disqualified from the process either during the exam itself or after the post examination during audit and scrutiny.

101. Shri Datar submits that NLAT 2020 has made use of a combination of Artificial Intelligence and human Proctoring. It is further submitted that in order to give full effect to human and Artificial Intelligence proctoring measures available post examination, respondent No.1 appointed a leading audit firm to carry out an independent forensic audit and assessment of data relating to the examination and submit the report. He submits that care and precautions were taken by University for conduct of free and fair test and on the basis of some media reports and few materials brought on record, it cannot be concluded that the examination is marred by malpractices especially in proceeding under Article 32 of the Constitution.

…learned counsel for the parties, we are of the view that for the present case, it is not necessary for this court to enter into various materials referred to by the petitioners and the reports and to decide as to whether malpractices were actually adopted in the examination or not. Respondent No.1 being premier University, we have no doubt that it must have taken all necessary precautions to avoid any malpractices and cheating in the examination.

The Supreme Court judgment quashing NLAT

Comments

Gabru 21 Sept 2020, 05:21
+65 -2
LMAO I---------------------------------------


@ Jabra Fan, where you at
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 05:50
+36 -3
He'd come soon and start shouting that it doesn't matter, since the top 100 of CLAT would still choose NLS over others. Or something like that. People from that place (assuming he is one) have got remarkably thick skin. Trumpswamy included.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 07:52
+3 -12
If the exam can be conducted with 150 why have clat been taking 4000
You know why 22 Sept 2020, 06:42
+1 -1
[img]https://media4.giphy.com/media/3ofT5IqOEKXeZTUA5G/200.gif[/img]
Guestaq 21 Sept 2020, 08:43
+4 -13
Lockdown announced in Chhattisgarh, Will the Consortium defer the exam again if not will it not be contradicting its previous decision. In these times everyone is in a difficult position so stop blaming aka S K Swamy.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 09:14
+11 -0
An easier option would be talking to the state government. Can't stop blaming Sudhir, since he makes it so easier by taking random, arbit decisions.
Guestaq 21 Sept 2020, 09:37
+5 -2
@1.1.2.1 his decision was clearly arbitrary. I agree 100%. What I meant by saying stop blaming him is that if the 1st year starts late his argument or fear of a zero year is not contradicted. Otherwise his camp too may say that because of lockdown in chhatisgarh CLAT shuold be defered further. If not Consortium is contradicting itself. It is to be seen what the Consortium will do now when Raipur the capital is a containment zone till 28th midnight.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 09:04
+22 -1
If it were not for Legally India,, other organisations like barand bech would have spun there own pro sudhir narrative.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 09:22
+8 -2
Agreed. Bar & bench is a website run by [...].
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 06:46
+34 -1
It will be interesting to see if Sudhir will declare this year as zero year
Interesting 21 Sept 2020, 07:01
+31 -1
Good point. The NLAT was founded on the assertion that by waiting for an additional 12 days, NLS will have no choice but to declare a zero year. Either Sudhir publicly eats crow and admits this was a lie, or pushes ahead with this agenda and declares a zero year, harming a full batch of students. Either way this was an entirely avoidable travesty that plays with student lives in the middle of a worldwide crisis, all for no discernible benefit. What a sad state of affairs.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 07:13
+26 -2
What about the 36 lakh or more robbery that Sudhir did with the nlat fees?

Did he float a public tender before taking services of testpanindia.com? No. is it illegal. yes!

NLS does not have funds to pay the salaries of the employees but how come the fancy lawyers are being paid across India for different matters?

No accountability is it?
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 07:26
+22 -1
Para 86 of the judgment clearly mentions that there is no need to declare a zero year even if the session begins from October. If Sudhir tries to pull of such a stunt to save his own face, then he could be hauled up for contempt next.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 05:22
+68 -6
So, when can we expect Sudhir's resignation for subjecting 70,000+ law aspirants through this hellish rollercoaster for literally nothing?

God bless the Supreme Court.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 06:12
+20 -1
Never. It's just one another day at the office for him.
Jabba 21 Sept 2020, 05:22
+29 -3
Supreme Court lives up the image of fellow law aspirants. The judges setting up a good example. Good stuff.
Lawyaar 21 Sept 2020, 05:22
+27 -1
Hello JABRA FAN where are you ?
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 08:58
+3 -1
What is JABRA?
NEW MAN 21 Sept 2020, 09:59
+8 -1
A nuisance "supposedly-from-NLS" troll who was bragging about NLS in the comments section over the past couple of weeks since NLAT was announced. And who was firmly put in his place this morning.
Observer 21 Sept 2020, 05:23
+56 -3
NLAT accomplished nothing. Troubled students, excluded people, ruined a lot of the NLS reputation, wasted time, money and resources. What was the point? Your 12 crores? Which you could've collected anyway?

It's time for the VC to resign.
NLSIU #! 21 Sept 2020, 05:25
+33 -6
ToP LaW ScHoOL
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 05:26
+78 -5
Since the NLSIU VC clearly said several times that he had got no plan or idea about how to continue the session for the new batch if the CLAT calendar is adhered to, this seems a good time for him to step down. Let someone else who actually have got such plans/idea to take care of things.
Guests 21 Sept 2020, 05:27
+67 -1
Thank you Sudhir and nls trolls for providing free entertainment this month, the LI comments section was hilarious
Ballin 21 Sept 2020, 05:29
+24 -3
Good day to recall NLS' institutional motto: Justice being preserved, preserves. ("[i]Dharmo rakshati rakshitah[/i]")

The law truly does protect only those who protect it, at least for this day in the apex court.
NEW MAN 21 Sept 2020, 05:40
+49 -3
A nice tight slap to Sudhir and all the NLS trolls who've been annoying the heck out of everyone with their self-proclaimed special status. What a waste of time and resources for everyone. The VC should seriously consider resigning for sheer incompetence, but it's unlikely that he will. The sweet taste of justice doesn't get much better.
LOL 21 Sept 2020, 05:45
+8 -1
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Jabra Fan 21 Sept 2020, 05:45
+6 -34
Whatever the decision of SC is, I have accepted it. I rest my case here.
Peace.
NEW MAN 21 Sept 2020, 06:06
+34 -4
Rest your case? You never had a case to begin with. And you accepting the SC's decision doesn't matter one bit. You've been an incessant illogical troll over the past few weeks and this tight kick from the SC should put you in place for a while. Although, I doubt that would help you much to become a competent law student.
Vaas 21 Sept 2020, 05:50
+20 -2
I can finally focus on CLAT 2020 again. Now I feel like I actually have a shot at getting into NLS.
SC has reignited the spark that many law aspirants in the country have.
Advice 21 Sept 2020, 07:54
+6 -12
Please immediately get off such websites then. While serving a great purpose generally, surfing such articles and their comments in the final run up to your exams doesn’t help in any manner.
Skankhunt42 21 Sept 2020, 05:52
+5 -9
Oh well, back to the drawing board for Sudhir I guess. Seeing as how the SC envisages CLAT admissions only in mid-October, I'm curious to see how NLS will accommodate this timeline into their much touted trimester system. Pretty hilarious how the consortium has been directed to reinstate NLS as the Secretariat of CLAT.
ThotMaster 21 Sept 2020, 06:12
+55 -2
"Back to the drawing board" lmao, Sudhir had his ego handed back to him on a platter. Back to the drawing board doesn't even begin to encapsulate the devastating blow this renders to a Rhodes scholar whose first major decision as head of a state university couldn't stand the test of law in the Supreme Court. This is the equivalent of Gordon Ramsay messing up instant ramen. Not to mention how Sudhir's [i]entire[/i] argument for this farce was that NLS would collapse under late admissions brought about by a delayed CLAT and now he either has to let NLS collapse as he said, or prove himself wrong. This is top tier sitcom material as the castle in the air comes collapsing squarely upon one man and his cooker. What an absolute, unbridled joke.
Concerned 21 Sept 2020, 06:40
+5 -26
The way I see it Sudhir was faced with tough choice with trimester system. He took a risk, and failed. LI troll gurus can argue could've, should've... But he did have a tough choice.
When he admits kids in second trimester directly, one can only imagine what would befall the poor kids. Though with Lizzie exit, Somu pushed to second trimester, a few may still survive. Getting there is one thing, surviving another.
Allayed 21 Sept 2020, 06:54
+18 -1
LI troll gurus can say what they want, but the could've should've in this case came directly from the CLAT consortium and now the Supreme Court. Sudhir's "tough choice" is something that every college in the country is facing, the pandemic hasn't hit NLS aspirants alone. NLAT bought him a grand total of 12 days, so let's stop pretending that would have solved any issues with the trimester system.
Harden 21 Sept 2020, 07:02
+27 -0
While it's true that Sudhir did not have an easy job where figuring out how/when to start the semester is concerned, that problem plagued every single college administrator in our country.

No person should take "risks" at such short-notice that cause mental distress to thousands of applicants, extricate additional fee from them and then institute a system that keeps adding/changing rules on a whim, all the while hurting those that may not be as well placed as some of us are. There must be some kind of reasonable risk-assessment conducted as well.

It's all the more terrible when such a "risk" fails so spectacularly.

On the issue of NLS' trimester system, their V-C's counsel called it "hellish" in open court if my memory serves right. Pandemics have often shifted prevailing paradigms and it may be a good time for NLS to reconsider their system if it has to take such hilarious "risks" to keep it going.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 06:03
+36 -6
Why should NLSIU lead the consortium after how they behaved? Not fair.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 09:17
+10 -1
You think any of the other VCs is going to trust Sudhir after this?
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 06:05
+5 -24
Friends, please note that this decision CANNOT have any impact on NIRF ranking or INI status. Certain people are spreading nonsense on social media. NIRF and INI processes and parameters are totally different.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 06:07
+3 -55
I respect the SC, but there was a disinformation campaign by TLC lobby, coaching centres and other NLUs (who are nothing but mere state colleges).
Ballin 21 Sept 2020, 06:38
+34 -3
It speaks volumes of how far up some people's heads go up their own if they really think that most authorities in the legal system, ranging from law schools to former Vice-Chancellors, have all engineereed some great disinformation campaign that has bamboozled even the Supreme Court.

It's a real possibility that everyone else is right and you are wrong, innit?
Judgment Kidar Hai? 21 Sept 2020, 10:05
+5 -0
Last i checked a number of coaching institutes raked in some extra money in the name of specialised NLAT test papers; the people who teach at such centres may agree that while NLAT is an additional mess that they had to deal with, the centres themselves did charge for papers citing change in pattern

'Nothing more but mere state colleges' last i checked, (since the case on this is still pending in the Karnataka HC), NLSIU is still one governed by its statute which was passed by a State Government, the very one that the SC cites in today's judgement, and until there is a change in this regard law school is perhaps 'nothing more but mere state college'.

#nationaliseNLUs and where the hell can i find a copy of the Varun Bhagat case?
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 06:08
+23 -2
Sudhir is lucky no structures were made against him. Probably because Datar and Poovayya represented him.
Shitman 21 Sept 2020, 06:42
+4 -3
Structures? I only know laa callege and Surya.
RTI 21 Sept 2020, 06:55
+24 -1
Someone should find out how much money was wasted on this fool’s errand.
LaLaLand 21 Sept 2020, 08:10
+26 -0
Judgement does record that R-2 aka Sudeer in a span of 1 week took contradictory positions on sit-at-home exams. Well when two polar opposite stands are taken on a sworn affidavit filed one week apart by a VC, let alone of NLS, it speaks volumes about cognitive abilities! I feel he no longer has moral legs to stand in as NLS VC and must be shown the door.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 06:09
+1 -10
Sudhir is not gonna refund fees.
Sudhaar 21 Sept 2020, 06:09
+53 -6
Sudhir Krishnaswamy should [b]resign[/b] with unconditional apology and [b]refund NLAT fees[/b] with interest rate.
Fe 21 Sept 2020, 06:14
+34 -2
Isn't Sudhir supposed to be a constitutional scholar? And yet his decisions can't withstand the scrutiny of the SC? How is he fit to teach/lead anymore?
NLS alum 1 Batch 21 Sept 2020, 06:19
+6 -33
Whatever the pitfalls of this exam, Sudhir should absolutely not resign. There is no way law school would get the faculty/tie ups it is getting without him.
NLS student 21 Sept 2020, 07:30
+3 -19
Only people who don't study / have never studied here are disliking your comment.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 07:59
+32 -3
Even people who are recognising the blatantly self-serving comment for what it is are also doing so. You all seem to be ready to even get Kim Jong Un as your next VC provided he can get you that elusive MoU with Oxford. Keep revealing your true nature for the rest of the world, Harvard of Nagarbhavi.
also an NLS student 21 Sept 2020, 10:15
+4 -8
i study in NLS and i can say Nagarbhavi Laa College is the best college in all of Nagarbhavi. We have loads of Understandings.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 06:20
+1 -54
This is NOT Sudhir's fault. It is the fault of Mamata Banerjee and the NUJS VC. Please read para 12 of the judgement. Mamata was wrong to impose a lockdown without checking if there was an exam, while the NUJS VC was wrong in just blindly following her orders.
Ballin 21 Sept 2020, 06:51
+21 -1
I'm not sure if I understand, should the Vice-Chancellor of a state university have contravened the Chief Minister's orders? Moreover, the lockdown in West Bengal was not specifically imposed on the day of the examination. It was a sequential system which locked the state down for two days every week, and this sytem had been put in place much before this date for the CLAT was decided.

At any rate, Krishnaswamy's actions post the postponement of CLAT hardly let him get away without cake on his face. Shafting a consortium one owes duties to and covertly planning something entirely different without due notice is hardly some great feat of administration.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 07:01
+9 -1
Okay, these two people were wrong in just one matter each. Sudhir was wrong in everything that he did or didn't do. Shame on him. And those who continue to defend him.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 06:22
+8 -4
Fees won't be refunded as money has been spent on AON and legal costs.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 06:23
+29 -10
Don't single out Sudhir. The alumni were 100% complicit.
AthitiJaavoBhava 21 Sept 2020, 06:38
+22 -5
I don't recall alumni being tasked with heading the institution.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 07:07
+19 -0
But a lot of them still like to think and act as if they have been so tasked. So yes, definitely the lion's share of the blame goes to Sudhir. The alumni supporting him in this should not escape their own culpability either.
Batch of 24, NLSIU 21 Sept 2020, 08:06
+5 -8
No one's zoom-bombing his Constitutional Law class. Stop spreading misinformation lmao
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 08:31
+0 -4
The info is true. I was in that class. Though not one of the bombers.
Batch of 24, NLSIU 21 Sept 2020, 09:34
+4 -4
IF you are in his class, you would know he handles access and people can't randomly enter. Unless you mean people stuck in the Zoom waiting room to be "zoom-bombing"
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 10:13
+10 -0
Does he handle access the same way as he did NLAT? Sorry, but that was just too good to ignore.
Hahaha 21 Sept 2020, 06:36
Troll Contested
+31 -6
[...] every issue ruled against him. Law School is rejoicing at this [...]. Students Zoom-bombed his (currently ongoing) Constitutional Law class, to the point IT Dept was asked to disable access, haha haha.

[...]

PS: at haters and Shameerpet Refugee, Venkata Rao sends his regards. Also, being a Law Schoolite, thank you everyone including LI and other media for staying on this, thank you RVR for not forgetting about us whom you guided like your own flock, and last but not least, thank you Faizan for really showing leadership. Sir, you are a good man. I promise to not make Nalsar jokes for a year at least, as my token of gratitude.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 07:02
+11 -0
Sarkar approves.
Batch of 24, NLSIU 21 Sept 2020, 08:17
+10 -7
No one's zoom-bombing his Constitutional Law class. Stop spreading misinformation lmao
NLU Alum 21 Sept 2020, 09:42
+5 -0
Haven't seen these many labels on a single comment on LI before!
Swamy Sudhir 21 Sept 2020, 06:55
Troll Contested
+3 -20
Just came to know Prof. Krishnaswamy is hell bent on filing a [b]review petition[/b] in SC.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 07:19
+11 -0
Of course. Apparently, the previous NLSIU admin hadn't been the only one to treat the university funds as their own private treasury to draw upon it seems.
Interesting 21 Sept 2020, 08:03
+9 -2
At this point corruption seems a more respectable choice than using what's left of the coffers to embarrass the university on a national level
Ballin 21 Sept 2020, 08:23
+14 -0
This purported review petition should have the same chances of success as the ones filed by Ajmal Qasab.

It would be ridiculous if a V-C who shouted hoarse about delaying the semester decides to entrench himself in such a terrible position and delay things even further.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 07:12
+17 -2
Sudhir and every insider supporting him should refund the NLAT fees out of their own pocket (even the part actually having been spent as NLAT expenses) and also the legal expenses for Datar et al instead of using student fees for that. If he is unwilling to do so, then students should not hesitate to go on a similar strike like they had done to get him in.
F-20 21 Sept 2020, 07:37
+23 -2
I guess this was a pre-orientation lesson for the Vice Chancellor, who probably missed the Article 14 class on arbitariness back in the day. While Sudhir will rightly be cursed, can we all just hail the selfless commitment of Ex-VC Prof. Venkata Rao who restored equity for the students! For an VC to come out and simply tame the flamboyance was really as class act!..... Kabhi kabhi SCOI acche kaam bhi kar deta hain!
Advice 21 Sept 2020, 07:51
+3 -6
Hi everyone, I took a drop year for clat and at the current moment, I'm in Jindal(it was my backup option) and I've actively participated in the classes, joined clubs etc, this has left me absolutely no time for clat, my question is that "Is law school that big of a deal than people make out it to be when it comes to your future?", I wanted to ask this question because I've been following the comments around Jindal on this site and they give it a r negative picture, The first 3 weeks have been really good and the reality seems to be pretty different than portrayed here(especially the student quality debate) If the comments here to be correct and Jindal turns out to be a scam I wanted to ask as to the advantage of the NLUs if I do get into one.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 08:24
+5 -4
In 3 weeks, you got to figure out the quality of over 3000 students as a fresher participating in online classes? Pull the other one, that's got bells on.
Advice 21 Sept 2020, 09:01
+3 -3
Nope but I did get to interact with a lot of seniors and my own classmates.
Real Advice 21 Sept 2020, 08:42
+8 -4
This might be the wrong place to seek actual advice for your future. :p On a serious note, you should take everything you read in the LI Comments section with a bucketful of salt.
Most people here are frustrated lawyer trolls whose only achievement has been to clear CLAT and then maybe to have gotten a job at some law firm. Post-law school, they have nothing better to do than to speculate and spread ill-willed gossip about every law school. Most of them probably can't even afford JGLS.

I'm not from Jindal myself, but having interned and interacted with folks from there, I can say that a number of them (not all) are as competent as most above-average NLU students these days (if you consider NLU students to be very competent) and better than most people from other private law schools. It wouldn't make a massive difference to your life if you chose to continue there rather than go to a NLU. I know quite a people who have done that. Although, I'd still recommend taking the CLAT again since you dropped a year for it. You could still get one of the NIRF top 3.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 09:12
+3 -3
If getting an NIRF 'top 3' won't make a difference either, then why bother?
Real Advice 21 Sept 2020, 09:56
+4 -0
I said "massive difference". Even if you dispute the veracity of NIRF, the NIRF top 3 are the general top 3 preference for 90% of CLAT/AILET aspirants. And graduating from one of them does add value to your individual brand, as the perception scores also indicate. Not that it's the only thing that matters.

As for NUJS, NLIU and NLUJ (since that's what you want to hear from your quotes on 'top 3'), they each have around 20-odd NRI-quota/sponsored seats (the top 3 don't, except for Foreign Nationals), so if you're going to them by that route, then you might as well go to JGLS and have a more comfortable five years, in my opinion. Plus, JGLS' location to the NCR is an added advantage compared to the others.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 10:12
+0 -5
NLUD brand making students' lives better? That's not a reality yet, NIRF rank notwithstanding. Only aspirants have any use for that ranking, the industry (or academia or any other career option) have got their own preference for brands.
Real Advice 21 Sept 2020, 10:40
+0 -1
Fair enough.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 18:38
+1 -1
The NLUD brand is doing that, actually. Whether or not one can digest that is a different story.
some more advice 21 Sept 2020, 10:26
+0 -0
i agree with 30.2, take whatever advice you get from LI with loads of salt. im not from Jindal, but am someone who did take a drop and due to the great clat of 2018, i got bumped up to one of the colleges high on my preference list, having been at multiple NLU(s) before settling down at one, and having interacted with a number of people for Jindal.
some more advice 21 Sept 2020, 10:38
+1 -1
opps clicked on Ctrl+ Enter instead of Enter

continuing, its a mixed answer, you took a drop year so in my opinion take the full advantage of it, do write clat, if nothing else for the heck of the fact that you paid for the exam. Is Jindal any lesser of a college than any of the NLUs...no, its a pretty good college with perhaps really great facilities and some pretty enviable faculty. But perhaps what difference you might find in an NLU (apart from slightly old buildings and questionable facilities on campus) is the advantage of a smaller batch size, where you interact with nearly every one in your batch and campus, and really great alumni that you might to personally interact.
At this stage the only thing that jindal might lack is that close knit interactions that exist for almost all of the students. But yeah in the end its a personal call, a drop year does take its toll eventually, you deserve a good college life and honestly either would do, its up to you to take advantage of it.
#GoSudhirGo 21 Sept 2020, 07:55
+15 -1
Sudhir made a fool out of himself and unfortunately NLS too. He shouldn't be the treasurer for CLAT. How do we trust him to be competent with this administrative position after the whole NLAT fiasco? He may be a great academician and researcher, but the entire fiasco has put focus on him being an [...] administrator [...]
RESIGN 21 Sept 2020, 07:56
+26 -1
RESIGN RESIGN RESIGN RESIGN
LaLaLand 21 Sept 2020, 08:18
+18 -1
[quote]91. The respondent No.2 had categorically taken the
stand on behalf of the CLAT that online test at home
with technological measures cannot ensure transparency
and the test will be completely compromised and may
even be manipulated by participants and coaching
centres. There was no reason for change of mind by
respondent No.2 within a week. Affidavit was sworn on
25.08.2020 by respondent No.2 and on 03.09.2020 after a
week, notification was issued for conducting NLAT
permitting participants to join online examination
sitting at their home. When something was not to be
permitted, when home based online test could not have
been permitted for CLAT-2020, the same test can also
not be permitted for NLAT-2020.[/quote] Para. 91 of the Judgement. Read between the lines? SK seems to lack credibility to hold a statutory position entrusted by law to run an educational institute.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 08:40
+9 -0
Thats why I always read comments. Some are genuinely good.
Genius 21 Sept 2020, 11:39
+20 -1
This was the real genius of RVR and Faizan. Because this WP doesn’t need Sudhir as a personal respondent - ideally just NLSIU - and the Registrar would sign the pleadings.

But by making him R2, they got the Court to highlight that the same individual had signed a sworn affidavit in the Delhi HC about the flaws of at-home exams in a case that the general public didn’t know about - this was Faizan using his insider knowledge about the NLU Consortium matters.

Once it became RVR vs Sudhir, RVR just said “look, R2 himself argued the opposite by signing that affidavit”. Excellent court craft. Kudos, folx!
LaLaLand 21 Sept 2020, 08:30
+7 -0
#JustCurious: Does anyone know why B&B does not allow posting of comments?
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 09:15
+13 -1
SC, Consortium and rest of the country to Sudhir: Why NLAT?
Sudhir: Felt cute, might quash later.
SC: Too right you would.
Pi 21 Sept 2020, 09:26
+6 -0
[quote]The Universities are not powerless to modify their Academic Calendar looking to the pandemic. The Academic year 2020-21 is not a normal academic year in which Universities are expected to carry on their teaching and other activities in normal mode and manner. The respondent No.1 University could have very well found out ways and means to start the academic Under-Graduate Law course even if it starts in mid of October 2020 after conduct of the CLAT on 28.09.2020.[/quote]

para 83
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 12:57
+7 -2
Prominent NLSIU alum are still posting on Twitter insulting other NLUs. For example, Prashant Reddy (who had posted tweets in favour offer Sudhir) has said:

"NLS gets sucked back into the mediocrity that is CLAT."

This despite Reddy being a former NALSAR prof himself.

Delhi HC advocate Chirayu Jain has posted:

"I am sticking to my theory: NLS admin came up with the entire NLAT charade only to kick out the CLAT Consortium from the campus. And we were successful at that."

Jain has also posted the following:

"NALSAR is as good as the triangular scales in geometry box. Is there any use for either? Nope."

"Why is NALSAR VC complaining about NLS-CLAT break up? I mean isn't it finally a moment for the photocopy law school NALSAR to rise and shine? OH WAIT, photocopies can't shine"

"Seriously, has anyone filed an RTI asking what is the point of having NALSAR?"

"Top 5 reasons why NALSAR exists:Number 1: No reason."

"NALSAR is void ab initio! Prove me wrong!"

https://twitter.com/Preddy85/status/1307922565327798272
https://twitter.com/chirayuuuu/status/1307948934547959808
https://twitter.com/chirayuuuu/status/1302344700934852608
https://twitter.com/chirayuuuu/status/1302249268443402241
https://twitter.com/chirayuuuu/status/1302269405871570946
https://twitter.com/chirayuuuu/status/1302238070478004224
https://twitter.com/chirayuuuu/status/1302248257754525702
H8rs 21 Sept 2020, 13:27
+18 -1
People always get defensive when faced with competition. PReddy, like all "law school" alum from the pre-CLAT era, try to blame clat for the reason NLS isn't doing well now (compared to NUJS, NLUD, Nalsar in jobs, moots, vac schemes etc.) instead of acknowledging that they graduated when NLS had no competition. Even if you accept his argument that clat brings in "mediocre" students, [...]
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 13:50
+3 -0
Why is comment 37.1 censored?
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 14:26
+13 -0
If CLAT brings in mediocre students, then NLSIU is already mediocre for over a decade now. Reddy should start his own island of excellence.
Nugget of Gold 21 Sept 2020, 14:09
+7 -0
It will be interesting to see what effect this entire episode has on the domicile quota issue. The KA HC had stayed the domicile Act only because NLS filed an affidavit regarding conducting the NLAT early and didn't leave the Court enough time to render a proper judgement (I can't help but feel that this was also one of the reasons for conducting the NLAT on such short notice, i.e. to get an early judgement by the Court and avoid domicile altogether).

With this scam of an exam quashed, I wonder if the HC will render its final judgement before CLAT. The grounds taken by NLS for avoiding the quota are specious to say the least, but with the level of HC judgments these days, that issue could go either way, it looks like. The way NLS (through its VC) has conducted itself over the past few months has really been quite disgraceful and hopefully they're put in their place once all is said and done.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 18:32
+2 -1
You have correctly identified domicile quota as a key issue. NLSIU's ultimate aim is to get INI status like IIT/IIM and thus domicile quota was a hindrance. But they also want to deny INI status to other colleges and have them retain their domicile quota. Hence, the submission before the Karnataka HC was that other NLUs are state universities like KSLU, while NLSIU is an exclusive national law school set up by the BCI. Having a separate NLAT would also have supported the claim of special status, while NLSIU would have lobbied to have KSLU included in CLAT instead of them. The SC decision to lump NLSIU together with other CLAT NLUs will weaken NLSIU's claim now. Nevertheless, the alumni will still try to lobby through another way.

Also interesting to watch will be the NUJS domicile quota case. The Cal HC has sought a reply from NUJS. Will the NUJS admin and student body indirectly support NLSIU's claim that NUJS is a state university like KSLU? Note that the SC order today identifies NUJS as an institution that "followed NLSIU's footsteps" and the CJI is the Chancellor of both.
Guest 21 Sept 2020, 19:43
+8 -1
BCI cannot 'set up' a university. If they could, then NLSIU wouldn't have been required to be set up under an Act of the Karnataka Government. It's all an eyewash and delusion of grandeur of has-beens from NLSIU. It is as much a state university as KSLU is. Takes money from state government and is formed under a state act.
Guest 22 Sept 2020, 03:07
+2 -0
Not sure what WBNUJS' response will be in the Cal HC. But there is no escaping "state university" tag.

1. Established under WBNUJS Act 1999 passed by the state legislature. Not under an Act of the Parliament.

2. Under the WB Govt Rules of Business, WBNUJS has been placed under the admin control and responsibility of the Judicial Dept, WB Govt. Guess we can make similar checks for other state govts.

3. Received UGC affiliation and grants as a "state university"

4. Not IoE or INI. I doubt any state university has INI status.

5. WBNUJS has allegedly violated UGC rules on distance education, lacks BCI affiliation since 2011, unpaid Income Taxes amount to over Rs 7.6 crores (of which IT took away over Rs 4.6 crores), unpaid GST running into crores, refunded over Rs 4 crores to UGC, FCRA violations and the list goes on. Icing on the cake, the VC is coming up with various tricks to pass off contractual teach as whole-time faculty etc to somehow get NAAC tag and dress up NIRF score.

6. Wonder why Calcutta HC is wasting time. Could have asked the brother judge on NUJS EC. But that would have been err.....best left unsaid.
Guest 22 Sept 2020, 05:14
+1 -0
All NLUs are state universities. All of them have been formed under state legislation, they all receive UGC grants accordingly. Until the central government nationalises them, or gives them INI status, they would remain thus. Even giving IOE would not help for that, there are state universities designated as IOEs now.
Guest 22 Sept 2020, 03:39
+1 -0
Never tell what the BCI can and cannot do. Kian can tell you more...eh?
PMu 22 Sept 2020, 09:20
+2 -0
1. Mr. Sudhir spent public money
2. Mr Sudhir Created unnecessary distrust in consortium
3. If its not a law school university, I would have blamed VC only for bad decision not for poor knowledge of law. But here an Ex NLSIU grad, Law researcher showed very poor knowledge Law. It surely tarnished the reputation of a great Organization built through years by stalwarts
4. NLAT decision made without even minimal sympathetic consideration of 70000 aspirants who are preparing for 2.5 years. How he will make future lawyers who will be sympathetic, concerned for the weaker section of the society
5. I will also blame Executive Committee comprising HC/SC judges and big Lawyers for approving this poor, whimsical NLAT proposition

Is Mr. Sudhir accountable by any means for all the above high cost and high impact mistakes? Or he can shrug off this SC scolding as "Minor issue" or "No Probs" !?