The NLAT D-Day live blog: All that happened today [MSM begins reports • Cheating bombshell • Flood of tech probs with only 115 helpline workers • ENDED]

Full steam ahead on the NLAT exam D-Day today, on which we will answer and document all and any questions that come up
Full steam ahead on the NLAT exam D-Day today, on which we will answer and document all and any questions that come up

Yes, only eight days after the exam was announced on 3 September, following three writ petitions and a partial stay on results in the Supreme Court yesterday, plus a whole lot of last minute tweaks and some technology Snafus, the National Law Aptitude Test (NLAT) of NLSIU Bangalore is actually happening.

Following on from our wildly popular liveblog of the NLAT proceedings for the last two days, welcome to our NLAT live blog covering the proceedings for the Big Day, Saturday 12 September.

The first exam slot is to start at 12:30, the second slot is at 2:15pm and the last one at 4:00pm. Candidates are expected to be available and ready, 30 minutes before each, respectively.

115 technical support staff to be available on helplines

11:36: To kick off, some updates that were received late yesterday from NLS and that we included in our scoop about the simulated mock test, which had been billed as a “Simulation Test of the exact NLAT examination process” but turned out to be an unmitigated disaster and a bad omen for today.

However, according to a statement received from NLSIU late last night, it has sort of half-acknowledged that there were actual issues, though it has not really explained the cause or why this won’t happen again today in the actual test:

The simulation test was not a mandatory test. All students were given a chance to attend at least one simulation test. In the case of some students where they received late emails about their simulation test, they were given another chance to take the simulation test at 8 pm on Friday.

The helpline was active throughout the day on Friday. However, to assure students who may have concerns about accessing the helpline, staff of more than 115 will be available to man the helplines for technical assistance on Saturday when the NLAT 2020 will be conducted.

With regard to facial recognition issues, candidates have to comply with the instructions given to them in the candidate guide regarding the format of the ID card to be produced during the test.

In July we did an interview with the LSAT-India head Yusuf Abdul-Kareem, after they had just conducted their entrance test for 5,500.

When we asked him for any “potential advice or lessons learned for the CLAT and the AILET”, which were at that point to be held in July (with NLU Delhi’s AILET having briefly gone the home-proctored route before abandoning it), his second point was:

“The other advice I would give, is to make sure you have a robust customer service and troubleshooting support line and support system.”

While at the time he had declined to confirm exactly how many support staff they had on hand, let’s do some quick maths.

NLS has 27,500 candidates in three slots, working out to around 9,000 per slot. The LSAT had around 500 candidates per slot.

At 115 NLAT tech support workers, that works out to 78 students per staffer, per session.

If LSAT-India had used such a 1:78 ratio of helpline staff to candidate, it would have meant they would have had only six support staff available for each batch of 500, which would seem like a really low number if Abdul-Kareem strongly advised for “robust customer service and troubleshooting support line systems”.

By the accounts of some CLAT tutors we have spoken to, around 10 to 20% of candidates were not able to take the NLAT simulation at all yesterday due to technical issues, and “60 percent had at least some sort of problem, delay or test to at all conducted”.

If today’s actual exam will be as glitchy as the simulation, a 1:78 ratio of support staff is definitely not going to cut it, so here’s to hoping that most of those issues have been ironed out for today.

NLS ‘confident’ no cheaters would make it

11:54: As part oft our analysis of the real risk of cheating on the NLAT, we had asked the administration the following question: “Can you 100% guarantee that cheating will be impossible in the NLAT without getting caught?”

Yesterday, NLS released a statement saying it remained confident in its technology and process for weeding out foul play:

We have adopted robust technological measures and proctoring processes to maintain the integrity of the examination. We urge all candidates to take no risks with the proctoring and technological restrictions in place for the examination. Our integrity measures will come into full effect during and after the examination process as we review a comprehensive electronic record of the examination. While we cannot prevent a student’s attempt to circumvent these integrity measures, any evidence of examination malpractice will be taken extremely seriously and will result in disqualification.

We reassure all candidates appearing for NLAT 2020 to participate in the examination with full confidence. We are confident that no candidate who engages in examination malpractice will secure admission to the University.

Unless you’re trying to hide a live studio audience in your room, the proctor-ordered 360 sweep of the webcam is probably fairly easy to defeat, judging by what people got up to during yesterday’s simulation.

However, as we had also pointed out in our article on cheating, the main saving grace of NLS might be that it only needs to confirm that the merit list top 80 candidates (or 120, petition pending) did not cheat, after the event.

That reduces the burden considerably but forensically, the only evidence they will have after the exam is over is potentially grainy 640x480 webcam footage and a potentially bad audio recording, both streamed over 512KBps (though we have not confirmed if those are actually being stored on servers for later examination, one would assume any half-way competent proctoring system to do so).

On top of that, they might have access to all keystrokes and possibly mouse movements of a candidate.

Let’s hope it’s enough.

FAQ updates today

There are several updates to the official NLSIU FAQs today, which are by now impossible to identify unless you run the FAQs through a text comparison engine (also known as a ‘redline’ in corporate lawyer speak) against previous versions.

Luckily, we have done that for you, so you don’t have to.

Some mobile phone help desk numbers have been removed.

12:10: Three helpdesk mobile phone numbers communicated previously have been removed from the site. Since there are now 115 staffers on hand (see above), that makes sense, since those three lines would have been jammed.

Instead the instructions now are:

If the helpdesk number is busy, candidates can call the technical assistance number communicated to them during the verification process and in case of internet failure. You may login to the admissions.nls.ac.in portal to access this technical assistance number.

The main helpdesk number is 080-471-89145, but again, that may be jammed so it may be safest to stick to their advice and use the number mentioned during verification.

So good advice would be to note down that number and get it into your phone, just in case you encounter problems so you don’t have to hunt for it.

Also slightly unclear: how are you going to access the admissions portal if you have “internet failure”?

’Safe Assessment Browser (SAB) Tool’ is no longer required

12:20: This was updated earlier yesterday, but as we had predicted and asked NLS, the software that was initially supposed to be downloaded by candidates and that burrows deep into your computer to make sure you’re not running screen recorders, etc, is not required anymore.

The FAQ asks: “I have not received any link to download Safe Assessment Browser (SAB) Tool and can’t find any such software on the internet”.

The answer: “SAB is no longer required for the exam. Please read the updated guidelines on technical/system requirements here.”

Such software, which almost operates at the level of anti-virus software, is a core component of technical anti-cheating measures during proctored exams.

If it has been removed, presumably after the exam was opened up to operating systems other than Windows, it leaves the technological proctoring up to your web browser, which has fairly limited access to a candidates’ underlying computer.

So far, so better (than yesterday) but not perfect

12:26: With four minutes to go until the first exam at 12:30, we have received at least two accounts of candidates who were unable to log in or whose ID card had not yet been verified.

While not wonderful news, anecdotally, that is far fewer than yesterday’s simulation (which is not surprising, since a huge number of candidates received their verification email after the start time of the exam).

12:51: One CLAT coach, who has over 10 candidates appearing for the NLAT said that around a quarter of them were not able to start at the scheduled time of 12:30. One of those candidates has still not been able to begin the exam.

13:08: One candidates messaged us, noting: “Unable to login since 1 hour. Even the technical team has no solution. They are of no help.”

13:09: As we had predicted earlier, the helpline numbers may be overwhelmed. According to one candidate, “I called at their given helpline number they are declining my call.” One candidate shared a screenshot where they called the helpline number around half a dozen times, in regular intervals every minute. Each of the calls showed it had been “cancelled” without having connected.

If you are facing any issues with the exam today, please leave a comment below or message us in confidence here via a variety of channels: Contact Us.

Mock test for CLAT for IDIA’ites

14:21: Today IDIA Law Managing Trustee tweeted “IDIA Trainees will be writing NLAT today as a Mock Test for CLAT 2020. There is no way, one can ask them to take NLAT seriously and get stressed out for not receiving emails, passwords, simulation tests, Test centres etc. Best of luck @IDIALaw team!”

Shishira Rudrappa, the managing trustee of Increasing Diversity by Increasing Access (IDIA), tweeted today: > IDIA Trainees will be writing NLAT today as a Mock Test for CLAT 2020.

There is no way, one can ask them to take NLAT seriously and get stressed out for not receiving emails, passwords, simulation tests, Test centres etc.

Best of luck @IDIALaw team!

— Shishira (@shishirar) Sat, 12 Sep 2020, 09:17

Issues with exam continue flooding in

14:29: More accounts from students taking the exam who have not been able to log in.

Today for Nlat examination I was alloted the first batch.

I couldn’t get verified I tried with both the password sent to me via mail and as well as on the official website but couldn’t get through.

I called them so many times and they couldn’t help me too.

They are saying that the same problem have occurred with many student and now they can’t help it.

We have received dozens of similar reports.

14:45: “My slot is 2:15 pm,” wrote another candidate, attaching a mobile phone picture of them being stuck on the verification page including their webcam mugshot and a proof of ID, both of which look legitimate. “Hardly 15 minutes left for the exam,” they added. “My slot is going to [be] over now.”

14:56: We have had several reports of candidates getting the error message “unable to setup audio proctoring”.

We are also getting reports that phone lines are still tough to get through. One account from the first slot:

I had NLAT today at 12:30.

In the starting after verification they told me -“ microphone not detected, check again” I switched off microphone and turned it on again . Then my test started. In the whole exam I was being notified “microphone not detected, check again” even everything was in place on my side. For reassurance I checked it again and a warning was issued to not go to any other window. So after that I just continuously received notification for microphone and was continuously interrupted by it during exam which definitely made me lose time. The simulation test conducted yesterday went well with no problems but today suddenly this problem happened. Such situations are out of control and no one knows what to do with it or what will NLSIU do now. This exam was about my career and the only opportunity for NLAT which somehow was lost due to such errors which were happening even after no problem at my end. This is really not acceptable and depressing. Please help and conduct this in a fair manner which is equal for all.

I called them on technical helpline but they said it’s your fault when the test was started after verifying and in between the test I had my microphone on. They ended my call without addressing my problem and now I am not able to do anything. This is so stressful for a student preparing for such exams for 1year. Nobody is helping and addressing the problem

15:30: The second slot is also over, with the final slot to start at 4pm today. Bad reviews are still pouring in about something as basic as logging into the system and getting verified (which was already a major issue in yesterday’s simulation, so it should not have been a surprise):

I had second slot starting from 2:15 for nlat 2020 but i was not able to write the exam as i was not able to write the exam as I was not verified till 3:04 . I was been preparing to get into NLSIU from the past one year . I’m really disappointed . I dont know what to do. Please help me.

Third slot now over, still complaints keep coming in

17:14: One candidate shared the following detailed account of their NLAT experience, some potentially identifying details of which we have obscured:

I was slated to take the exam during the 2:15 p.m. - 3 p.m. slot. Reporting time was 1:45 p.m. I logged into the portal at 1:[45] p.m. sharp.

For the ID verification, I chose to upload a high resolution, crystal clear JPG scan of my Indian passport. After waiting for a total 8 long minutes, they REJECTED my verification because of my ID. I tried another 2-3 times. Again, crystal clear photo using a 1080p webcam and a crystal clear 4K passport scan with literally all important details legible. They rejected me again and again with each rejection coming at around 5-6 minutes after upload.

Dejected and panicked, at around 2:10 p.m. I called the NLS helpline. I was put into waiting for what essentially was eternity. After 4-5 minutes of trying to contact NLSIU, I got hold of another helpline (probably the test vendor helpline) and called it. A guy answered (thankfully). At first, he deflected responsibility to NLSIU, saying he was only a technical support. After a bit of back and forth, he said he would forward my issue to the NLS team. He also assured me that I would be given some extra time to finish the test, seeing that I was experiencing issues.

The test began at 2:30 p.m. after I used a photo of my Aadhaar shot with my webcam as ID proof. Throughout the test, there were incessant prompts from the system to keep my face in the “camera zone”. It was as though these folks don’t understand that to do calculations on paper for a math question, you need to look at it! However, the disturbing prompts were not the biggest problem.

At the [around 40] minute mark, in a 45 minute test, my paper automatically submitted!! I had not clicked or hit any key to submit my paper. I was busy working out the questions. I was literally robbed of [around five] full minutes of precious test time! I panicked and immediately wrote to the NLSIU email, asking for guidance and help. I don’t think I’ll be getting a response.

This whole experience was one huge failure. From the reporting time itself, I faced way too many technical issues, none of them from my end. I ran a 1080p camera, so they can’t complain about my picture quality being bad. I uploaded 4K scans of my passport, so they can’t complain about my ID not being legible. I have a 40 Mbps internet line, so they can’t complain about bandwidth. Things were literally all right on my end!

This whole experience was devastating, infuriating and deeply disturbing. They cannot treat candidates like this. If they were not prepared to hold this exam, they shouldn’t have announced it! I will literally not make it to NLSIU because I was forced to leave out 4-5 questions because of the test getting auto submitted. I cannot believe that India’s “number one law school” would treat exam candidates this way.

Please post this account on Legally India. I have already written to NLS Admissions. Please make sure the petitioners in the Prof. Venkat Rao case get to see this. They must show the SC what has transpired. This is simply not done.

Auto-submitting papers were not isolated incidents and we have received several other accounts from candidates echoing this experience.

“My paper was going very well,” said one candidate, “and when i was scrolling down to read the passages, the paper got auto submitted before 8 minutes. this exam is very unfair to people like [me]. like i was 100% sure for my selection, as it was going on, but due to the auto submit glitch every thing is ruined now.”

Cheating confirmed very possible, even via Zoom

17:23: We have just published fairly authoritative proof that cheating without detection is theoretically possible in the NLAT: entire NLS admissions test run live via a Zoom screen share

The NLAT is not finished: The PG sessions are starting soon

17:33: After the budding undergraduates have completed the NLAT (or not) in three batches, it is the budding postgraduates’ (PG) turn from 6pm.

The PG is usually a lot less competitive than the UG entrance tests, and one would hope PG’s would be less likely to jeopardise their academic careers by trying to cheat than young kids who have little to lose.

However, more importantly, let’s hope they don’t face the same technical issues. On the bright side, since there are far fewer, the helplines and verification process could actually go more smoothly.

If you sat the PG NLAT and have any feedback by around 7pm when it’s all done, please share in the comments below.

Mainstream media begins covering the debacle

18:08: The Deccan Herald has reported that the test was “marred with technical glitches”, relying primarily on messages from candidates on Twitter.

NLSIU, meanwhile, has hit back (also at the CLAT) with a social media offensive, posting on Twitter:

The three UG NLAT 2020 slots are now complete. Overall attendance of over 94% was recorded. The CLAT 2019 UG exam recorded 90.92% attendance. We thank all students and parents for their faith and belief in NLAT 2020

//www.legallyindia.com/images/uploads/20200912-184858.jpg

NLS issues press release about success of NLAT

20:59: NLSIU has issued a press release celebrating the success of the NLAT. We’ve done a short separate story here.

More media coverage

23:00: The Newsminute, also based in Bangalore, has covered the problems faced in today’s exam.

New updates are being added at the bottom of this blog in chronological order.

Comments

Guest 12 Sept 2020, 06:27
+30 -3
Both LI and B&B are running live blogs to report grievances. This is good news for those hoping for justice from the SC, as these websites can be cited . It is also good that B&B is toning down their pro-Sudhir propaganda after a backlash.
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 06:55
+23 -1
There was plenty of material available even before the last hearing. The court didn't take any notice. Expecting the SC to come to the rescue of those who are being wronged is so cliché and a boomer trait only.
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 07:59
+21 -3
I have zero faith in the Indian judiciary.
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 06:32
+41 -18
Sudhir would take care of everything. The man can turn water into wine, part the Red Seas, and get resurrected after being crucified. Don't worry, aspirants. Your future and careers are in good hands. The same ones that built the road to Rhodes and put the oversight in Facebook.
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 09:21
+24 -0
This kind of comment totally makes my day. People are upvoting or downvoting have got no clue either whether this is an insane Bhakt or a sarcastic troll.
Interested bystander 12 Sept 2020, 10:42
+8 -0
So true! I upvoted believing it to be an OTT comment written sarcastically. That said, one reflection, given some of the NLS alums I know, I am not sure!
Who is this Chela of S 12 Sept 2020, 06:49
+17 -2
Even if NLAT is a success, which I strongly feel it won't, the actions of Sudhir won't become justified and lawful. He's done a foolish act under absolutely bad advise of his coterie. He pretends to be the saviour but in reality he's the destroyer of both prestigious brands NLS and CLAT. Hope SC cancels this exam for one and all and directs the Govt of India to conduct CLAT on scheduled date using all its might and resources.
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 06:54
+18 -0
Personally, I thought commentator 2 was being sarcastic. But you never know these days!
Shambles FC 12 Sept 2020, 07:13
+14 -1
It’s been over 42 minutes and I still can’t login
AIR 1 CLAT 2020 12 Sept 2020, 09:06
+3 -5
Why in the world are you on the comments section of LI to put forth your grievance? Don't think Kian can do much anyway
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 10:43
+13 -0
Venting frustration - quite understandable really.
Shambles 12 Sept 2020, 07:13
+7 -1
Can’t login in duhhhh
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 08:10
+19 -5
I personally think all the merit listers will be clean and Sudhir will win in court, but that is not the real issue. The real issue is whether Sudhir can violate bye laws like this. He obviously can't, so he sneakily made the announcement a week ago so that it is too late by the time a judicial challenge is filed. It's part of his grand scheme to separate NLSIU from CLAT and get INI status at the exclusion of other NLUs, which he considers to be shudras. If Sudhir were a Harry Potter character, he would be Peter Pettigrew, the traitor and rat.

I also believe NLSIU students and alumni are complicit. Any criticism is token and mild.
fake 12 Sept 2020, 08:15
+10 -16
I hate Sudhir and this NLAT circus. But people commenting on this thread about being "unable to login" are definitely fake. Who in their right mind in the middle of an exam or while attempting to start will waste precious time commenting here.
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 08:47
+6 -7
Possibly those who actually are focusing on CLAT, but had got 150 rupees and a functioning lappy to spare for watching this circus from the front lines?
Ughh 12 Sept 2020, 08:31
+10 -0
Someone's test got automatically submitted even though the timer showed a bit of time as remaining time. The test had also started late since verification took a long time.
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 08:40
+7 -0
there is talk on telegram forums that people could very easily cheat and were not flagged
First Slot Survivor 12 Sept 2020, 08:46
+15 -0
My verification was a little more than 30 minutes late. And the two phone numbers they gave in their NLS.admission website were constantly busy - and one of them, after picking my call up, said that it was a wrong number and promptly hung up. But then it started. Paper was like the level of sample paper. Cheating would probably be difficult as they made sure GK questions were framed in a complicated manner. Maths was wild. But this paper essentially needs a good chunk of luck to make it through. A lot of correct guesses would get you through. Which isn't the case with other exams. I think people should focus on CLAT and AILET to get into NUJS, NALSAR, NLUD, NLUJ etc.
Uggh 12 Sept 2020, 08:47
+4 -0
There were also issues about the test getting automatically submitted even though the timer showed more than a minute as remaining.
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 08:49
+13 -0
I had NLAT today at 12:30.
In the starting after verification they told me -“ microphone not detected, check again” I switched off microphone and turned it on again . Then my test started. In the whole exam I was being notified “microphone not detected, check again” even everything was in place on my side. For reassurance I checked it again and a warning was issued to not go to any other window. So after that I just continuously received notification for microphone and was continuously interrupted by it during exam which definitely made me lose time. The simulation test conducted yesterday went well with no problems but today suddenly this problem happened. Such situations are out of control and no one knows what to do with it or what will NLSIU do now. This exam was about my career and the only opportunity for NLAT which somehow was lost due to such errors which were happening even after no problem at my end. This is really not acceptable and depressing. Please help and conduct this in a fair manner which is equal for all.
I called them on technical helpline but they said it’s your fault when the test was started after verifying and in between the test I had my microphone on. They ended my call without addressing my problem and now I am not able to do anything. This is so stressful for a student preparing for such exams for 1year. Nobody is helping and addressing the problem
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 08:50
+8 -0
It showed 'waiting for verification' for almost one hour. Exam didn't start.
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 09:23
+5 -0
It's like Waiting for Godot.
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 09:00
+16 -0
test got automatically submitted. wtf aon digital
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 09:16
+13 -0
Shame on Sudhir, bigger shame on the Supreme Court.
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 09:21
+9 -0
URGENT REQUEST: Please audiorecord your calls with the helpline and email the voice files to Kian. Kian, please beep out personal details and then upload the files on LI. These files will be submitted to the SC.
Interested bystander 12 Sept 2020, 10:49
+6 -0
You mean "these files [b]could[/b] be submitted to the SC." Obviously, they won't be. And even if they were, the courts will not decide the matter on this point.

Two pronged strategy will be needed:
1) Students or LI, CLAT, whoever - reach out with details and individual accounts to news channels. Run up the rhetoric on conduct of exam, future of aspirants etc.

2.a) Stick to by-laws in the SCI; 2.b) while noting the 'media reporting' for the bench. Obviously, (2.b) can only happen if (1) is successfully done.
ExtremelyAnxiousandWor 12 Sept 2020, 10:27
+8 -0
My NLAT test stopped in between for 15 minutes. The screen just went blank and the worst part was that these minutes were counted by the timer. So, the timer assumed that I was attempting the questions when all I could see was a blank screen. I have shot 3 emails to NLS with no reply. Shot 1 to FM asking him to directly cite my email in SC if required. Mentioned all my credentials alongwith a copy of the email I received from NLS. Like, what bullshit is this? The technical assistant was of no help. He didn't pick up my calls and when he did he waived off the issue in 10 seconds and promptly cut the call. I called the technical assistant while showing my mobile to the proctor- facing the webcam so they don't flag me for UFM. Lost 1/3rd of the time. Don't know what to do. I hope the SC sees sense and puts a stay on this sub-standard, opportunistic shit.
Uff 12 Sept 2020, 10:49
+9 -6
As the NLSIU alumni keep thinking the college is not for the state, how about just stop intake all together. Not just for this year but forever. Let the present students graduate and the let the Karnataka State legislature simply repeal the NLSIU Act, liquidate all property or transfer all resources to the Karnataka State Law Uni.

These ungrateful alumni who don't feel grateful to the taxpayers who funded their infra need to be taught a lesson. Long live state of Karnataka and KSLU.
camweb 12 Sept 2020, 11:57
+23 -1
Students writing these exams, think about it. If NLSIU is treating you like this just for the exams, do you think they'll ever treat you properly in the college if you do get selected. You'd be way better off choosing NALSAR, NLUD, NUJS, or any other NLU for that matter. If the [i]top[/i] Law University acts unlawfully in their admissions process, I truly fear for the students studying there.
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 12:13
+5 -0
Guys, please share this with mainstream media and get them to cover it. That will put pressure on the court, rather than comments on LI.
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 12:44
+2 -1
Kian, why do you say PG candidates have less to lose? Surely they will also covet NLSIU and be tempted to cheat?
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 12:51
+8 -2
NLSIU LLM programme is not a coveted one over that of other NLUs the way the LLB programme is.
TBH 12 Sept 2020, 14:56
+3 -2
Law School PG degrees are a joke. And presumably, other NLUs' PG degrees are (possibly, bigger) jokes.
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 15:21
+5 -1
The one year programme definitely is. The earlier two year thing used to have rigor.
Luckyluckyoye 12 Sept 2020, 13:10
+6 -6
Lucky to have bro studying at NLS who's around cuz Covid. Managed to get his help for the exam. His analysis was it was on the easier side. Nothing stands between me and NLS.
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 13:50
+13 -0
Clearly. You and your bro should form a brotherhood. Chanting Trumpswamy's praise every Saturday night.
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 13:56
+8 -1
Video of deleted telegram chat showing cheating

https://twitter.com/RamblerLama/status/1304774201090347008
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 13:58
+21 -2
How cheap of Sudhir to tweet this. Why does he treat competition with CLAT as a dick measuring contest?

[img]https://www.legallyindia.com/images/uploads/20200912-184858.jpg[/img]
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 17:56
+3 -0
Because he is.... and has.... Hence the envy, pain, suffers deprivation.

Funny that both Sudhir and Sarasu skip signing something that is supposed to "shut down" all naysayers.

That unsigned note is like the unsigned addendum in the Bbari Masjid case or the recent PB contempt matter. Also like the govt telling us how despite record setting new infections everyday, we also have record-setting hospital discharge numbers.

Or how our testing capacities have grown manifold but not clarify how many of those are RT-PCR verified. That a major chunk is through unreliable RAT. And how for every infected case discovered in May 2020, we missed 80 others.
MAN OF REASON 12 Sept 2020, 14:00
+6 -0
GOPAL SHANKARANARAYAN ON LINKEDIN

Students with grievances can email (preferably with screenshots) to so the details can be placed before the Supreme Court in the next hearing.
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 15:15
+5 -0
NLSIU has released the provisional answer key and has activated some sort of contact mechanism on their portal for aggrieved students to reach out. Half measures and all too late.
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 15:53
+8 -0
Yes, we saw their grievance redressal during the exam itself. "Not our concern" seemed to be a common mantra. I could just imagine them saying that out loud in Sudhir's nasal voice.
ExtremelyAnxiousandWor 12 Sept 2020, 15:48
+7 -0
Hey everyone,

I would like to bring to your notice the inherent defect that lies in the Provisional Answer Key(UG) released by NLS today. They have just mentioned the correct options without mentioning the whole options per se.
I have sent an email to NLS that goes like this. We all are using this as a template to mass report this issue so that it comes to the notice of the NLS authorities. Kindly take a note of it. It goes like this:

To, 

The concerned authorities, 


I am an NLAT 2020 aspirant and was allotted the second slot for the examination today.


With regard to the Provisional Answer Key that has been published by NLSIU, I would like to point out that the document does not contain complete questions and answers. It only has the first few lines of the passage and question numbers and respective answer letters (a/b/c/d/e).


Having no reference to the exact questions and answer choices, it is neither possible for any candidate to gauge their performance nor challenge the answer key. This renders the exercise futile.


I would request you to either publish detailed answer keys, or mail personal responses to candidates individually for their reference, or take any other necessary action.


Thank You,

Yours Sincerely,

XYZ
For Kian 12 Sept 2020, 17:01
+4 -0
Hi Kian - can you please add this to the disaster that NLAT is. They've effectively sent out SMS messages stating that for any technical queries, please fill up the form on your NLS portal. The screenshot below proves that the link uploaded by NLS is null and void (void: javascript) - intentionally designed to mislead the SC about "We asked candidates, no one said they had any, we received no responses".

Please look into it.
Embarrassed Alumni 12 Sept 2020, 18:06
+7 -0
I don't know why Sudhir shot himself in the foot like this. First this move (legitimately) invited criticism for being exclusionary. Now it is a glitch-ridden test that's become a joke. Questions about legality of the test still remain. There are serious questions about his administrative ability, PR skills and in some quarters, his good faith. More problematically, he comes across like a [...] who doesn't care. Is that the kind of VC one'd want? For all his faults, RVR had a high likeability quotient.

None of this was worth anything and it'll be the most embarrassing joke if other law schools manage to fill in seats and conduct first year properly.

I am sure current students and alumni are more disgruntled than they care to show. NLS's perception has taken a serious hit - for no real reason.

Having thrown their weight behind Sudhir (for appointment), their criticism of this move has been fairly muted. Even the alumni representation (which was for some reason not circulated to all in the end so that it doesn't get onto LI!) had more bonhomie than criticism....

All in all, what a shitshow.
Jabra Fan 12 Sept 2020, 18:31
+5 -15
You are not an alum, otherwise you'd have known better than to use alumni as a singular noun in your name. All of you just want to show Sudhir in bad light whereas he's the only one who's managed to make recruitment happen in Law School after over a decade, got funded PhDs, and because of him, we are the only NLU that's going to have first years in a week. Apart from one or two alumni, no insider has protested against him, because all of us know that he's going to take us to places where no second string state level NLUs can ever reach. If he has to take tough decisions to make that happen, then we are all behind him. He's not here to win popularity contests. Very soon he'd get the INI status for NLS and we would be the only NLU never to have a domicile quota. Losers can keep yelling wolf, it doesn't matter. As for Sarasu, competent people can recognise the merit of staying quiet and doing good work under the directions of actual scholars, not newspaper columnists. Sudhir has got the highest number of SCOPUS publications of all NLU VCs and those other [...] who can't handle their own law schools are now trying to tell him how to run his! No other VC has ever had students protesting to actually give him the job, all the others have only been kicked out or protested against students. All news about NLSIU students not liking Sudhir is crap. All spread by trolls and jealous students of other NLUs and their faculty. Law School students can recognise his merit and are fully ready to follow his lead even if that means making having to make short term adjustments.
Guest 12 Sept 2020, 19:25
+6 -1
Modi, Subbu Swamy, and now Sud Krishnaswamy. Trinity complete. Start praying, self-flagellate, bang thalis
camweb 13 Sept 2020, 05:25
+2 -2
On the alumni who are protesting against him, do give credit where it's due. Without Gopal .Saks' intervention Sudhir would have never become VC. Discounting such a key figure's contribution and his current [i]penance[/i] is surprising. THe man clearly regrets ever having tried this hard on getting Sudhir into office in the first place.
On Sudhir taking you to a different place. Clearly ,he does seem to be taking you to a place where your ivory towers can be even higher, without poor people affecting [i]your standards[/i]. WOW, such a big thing it will be for him to not have domicile status, watta achievement. Come on man, in terms of NLUs not having domicile status is hardly as great as organising the literally the worst law school entrance exam that has happened in years. Also what does having SCOPUS publications do anything with being able to administer a law school. His competence should be measured by the kind of feedback which his students give, and believe me when I say this, they [...]. Like a student wrote in an publication recently in a different context, [i]there might be outliers[/i].
Also on short-term adjustments, this is where the NLS elitism is clearly visible. The short-term adjustment that you speak of are literally people having to take up expensive loans when the "law school" made a promise on allowing them to study and pay it later. Calling them defaulters is not [i]short-term adjustment[/i] but an attack on their very dignity. So please keep your tribalism and elitism to yourself. These kind of hot takes, are why NLS is going to fall in public than become a so-called INI. Your alumni groups are better for this kind of mutually gratuitous glorification.
Jabra Fan 13 Sept 2020, 06:22
+2 -9
Yes, your burns are indeed visible. We are indeed keeping our quality to ourselves. You can take in whoever you want into your state law school without any thought about quality. People who make it to Law School can easily get educational loans without collateral. Nobody who is good enough for Law School has a problem with that. As for your fictional narrative of students protesting against Sudhir, what's your evidence apart from anon comments here and one solitary anon piece in a mag? They are the outliers. If enough students felt the same way, then they would have protested just like they did to get Sudhir in. You are just jealous that you couldn't get through to NLS and want the third class TLC Mafia to continue heading the places and doing student appeasement. Their time has come to an end. If you don't want INI status, that's actually because you can't get it. We can and we will. You be happy with state interference, domicile quota, zero year, and declining academic standards.
Germane Clout 13 Sept 2020, 16:26
+1 -1
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TLC Mafia 14 Sept 2020, 03:20
+3 -0
Beta, TLC se hi paida huye ho. Thoda ijjat Karo. Tumhare Baba Menon, Mitra, MP Singh sab TLC Hain. Ye NLS Ka experiment ab poora fail ho Gaya hai. Ek entrance exam to Kara Nahin sakte, useless school walon.